Re: [Hornlist] Cases by Thompson Edition
I bought on recently. I had to send the first one back due to manufacturing defect. The replacement is very good. I recommend them. Cordially, Luke Zyla 2nd horn, WV Symphony Orchestra Bob Williams wrote: Anyone care to share their opinions of the firm-sided fixed-bell cases from Thompson Edition? Bob Williams ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/lzyla%40charter.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Counting Rank Measures but seriously
Apropos of nothing other than the strange coincidence. A gentleman who I attended college with back in the dream time sent this to me today. I thought to share it, not because it is tremendous humor, just because it was a coincident that while a discussion continued here on conductors good and not so good this particular e-mail would arrive. Q: What do you do with a horn player that can't play? A: Give him two sticks, put him in the back, and call him a percussionist. Q: What do you do if he can't do that? A: Take away one of the sticks, put him up front, and call him a conductor. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Endurance / Horn post
What approach are you taking when you practice? Richard Burdick WIlliam Botte writes: My post to the list was a how to begin to develope endurance question. The original questioner didn't want a philosphical responce. At least that was what I interpreted what he wanted. I could have entertained everyone stories fo 20 min performances that morfed into 3 hour mararthons. (Pomp and Circumstance#1 two occassions) Or back to back perfomances of the Nutcracker. Or an eight hour reheasal of South Pacific. I would then tell the list that my philosphical approach to endurance saved the day for me. What rubbish. Long hours of practice, practice and more practice, built on an incremental regimen were key to my stamina. The mental rigor to actually enjoy the practice routine and flourish where others quit is indicative of the character of the average "good" classical musician. --wabotte ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Muriel Petty
Please excuse the double post Pam and Peter Larkin, two friends of mine are trying to trace a friend from their days at the Royal Manchester College of Music. The friend's name then was Muriel Petty - obviously she may have married and be trading under a different surname now. I have never met a horn player called Muriel. Have any of the British horn player met or heard of her? Pam also asked me if I'd heard of a horn player called Anthony Halstead! (Ah, the innocence of age!) Thanks, Lawrence "þaes ofereode - þisses swa maeg" http://lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Rank Amateur Counting Measures
Well, sure. And I almost always hold my horn in my lap whenever I'm counting measures. (Isn't that how the professionals do it too?) Plus, did you note the goofy facial expression signifying rapt concentration, essential to the task? How could even a top conservatory-trained professional look any more goofily rapt than that? -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. ~ At 04:25 PM 5/24/2005, you wrote: OK, I'll bite; what are we looking at that is significant? A photo of A. Cole? All I see is a guy holding a horn in his lap. Paul Mansur -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.15 - Release Date: 5/22/2005 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Dealing with Conductors (was counting measures, etc.)
On 23 May 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, in part: "But if he gets nasty, give him shit by playing exactly as he conducts, say yes to everything, but never "repair" mistakes he committed. Let the ship run into the ground. It will kill him eventually. But it is not your fault. But be careful: just laugh INSIDE." Amen. This is normal practice at the less-than-highest-levels of musicmaking as well. When a good conductor makes a mistake, you try to save him--just as you would want him to save you if you made a mistake. When a bad one makes a mistake, you do exactly what he says (verbally or through the stick), no more and no less. The advantage to those who play in volunteer ensembles or who have day jobs and cannot be threatened very much by one of these is that often you can laugh on the outside as well...backstage after the performance. The big difference is that the less light conductors make more mistakes! Gary Greene ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Rank Amateur Counting Measures
OK, I'll bite; what are we looking at that is significant? A photo of A. Cole? All I see is a guy holding a horn in his lap. Paul Mansur On Saturday, May 21, 2005, at 10:47 PM, Alan Cole wrote: OK, try it this way... http://members.cox.net/acole2/AAC-count.jpg (no screen name, no password, no folderol) -AC. ~ Screen Name: Password: ??? Carlberg Jones Guanajuato, Gto. MEXICO -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.14 - Release Date: 5/20/2005 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/p_mansur1%40comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Messiaen
Greetings, In the list of works by Messiaen there is mention of: 1971 Le tombeau de Jean-Pierre Guezec - Horn solo It does not seem to be available anywhere. Does anybody know about this work, have a copy to lend, or even have access to Messiaen archives Richard Burdick ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Brass Trio
In response to: "Does anyone know of any college and high school level Brass Trio music for horn, trumpet, and trombone?" I have four brass trios in my catalogue of compositions. My opus one is available on Ebay This work is in Five short movements and is sort of like Hindemith. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41398&item=7325111253 We played my opus 45 The Outer Ring quite a lot back in 1983 when I was a member of the Mills Brass Trio at Mills College in Oakland, California. This seems to be a three movement work, of which I have final copies of the first two Uranus & Neptune. My blank score in the computer for the third movement is titled Planet X I will check into finding the original manuscript when I am back in California this Summer. I could have the first two movements edited soon if there is interest. I have listed an opus 115 brass trio that premiered about five years ago in Sacramento. My Opus 123 Short Brass Trio is just a simple four page score. I could also have this piece edited soon if there is interest . Richard Burdick www-I-ching-music.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Conductors
I totally agree. Conducting is way harder than just waving a stick around. It is really quite intimidating to get up in front of a group of brilliant musicians and to tell them what you want, especially since you know they are making judgements on you, probably to be shared behind your back after the rehearsal. Case in point for the intimidation. Once, i believe i was about ten, and playing for a junior band connected with a well known concert band of about fifty brilliant musicians, the director of music came into our rehearsal and volunteered me to conduct two pieces for the concert band. I have never been so utterly terrified and intimidated in my life. Can you imagine how those musicians appeared to me, at the height of their profession, and me a little boy with about two years musical experiance. It is a similar experiance for some conductors even now at the height of their profession. You will always feel that there is somebody better than you, and if you believe that they are sitting in front of you, staring at you accusingly, then you will often allow yourself to be intimidated out of doing your best, and you will still be criticised afterwards. And i still dont know where i'm going with this mail so i'm gonna shut up now.Sorry everyone. Kev ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Who's attending the Symposium?
It's there. Go to the IHS 2005 web site, click on Schedule. This will bring up detailed schedules of master classes, lectures, etc. Bill in NC --- Wilbert Kimple <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Due to my college's summer session, and their need > for me to be on campus, I will only be able to > attend the workshop for two, or possibly three > days. The trouble is, I don't know which days to > go. > > I have not seen a detailed schedule of who is > giving what lecture on what day, nor have I seen a > schedule of who's playing what on which day. > > If anyone has this info, please send it to me. > > The web site has yet to list this information. > > Thanks. > > Wilbert in SC > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/tower_music%40yahoo.com > __ Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel and more fun for the weekend. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/weekend.html ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Conductors
I am fortunate to be the principal horn in church orchestra composed of local professionals and band directors. We get to play for services each week as regular part of the worship as well as special occasions during the year. The orchestra is thoroughly professional in ability and there are no prima dona attitudes!! It is a joy to play with this group. My general perception is that good musicians who are secure in their abilities and don't feel like they "have something to prove" are usually not attitude problems. I do sometimes confidence and/or definite musical opinions are mistaken for arrogance. I have been privileged to work with musicians at many levels and in all fields of music. In my experience, arrogance and bad attitudes seem most often to accompany inexperience and/or incompetence. Richard Smith www.rgsmithmusic.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Paul Kampen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Horn List" Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 8:35 AM Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Conductors Message text written by The Horn List Personally, I have respect for anyone with the brass to get in front of a bunch of musicians who by their very nature can be rather unforgiving.< Dear All But does brass neck always lead to the best talent emerging? Whilst at Opera North, I played for all the Leeds Conductors Competitions which have so far taken place (there is one to come this year). The winners have included several whose careers took off brightly. But those competitions were an eye opener as far as young conductors are concerned. The arrogance of some of those people was mind boggling. On the other hand, there was a very petite and shy young lady who entered twice. Obviously very nervous the first time that she entered, she was persuaded to enter again by several orchestra members who were impressed with what they saw. The second time was worse and she finished one of her sessions seemingly close to tears. Yet she obviously possessed far more talent than most of the others. Perhaps it shows that the main thing that you need to be a conductor is brass neck rather than talent! I remember one of the earlier competitions when the Chair of the jury was the late Sir Charles Groves. One young man thrashed around enthusiastically for 10 of his allotted 20 minutes in a knock out round. But then he had to think of something to say and this stumped him so, he said - "I think that I will finish early!" Sir Charles, one of the nicest and gentlest of men ever to have rode a rostrum was moved to unexpected forcefulness - "young man, you are throwing away 10 minutes of the time of a very expensive professional orchestra!" But our hero could only respond by playing through the overture (or whatever it was - I forget) again. Mind you, he sank without trace. Cheers Paul A. Kampen (W. Yorks UK) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/music%40rgsmithmusic.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Conductors
Message text written by The Horn List >Personally, I have respect for anyone with the brass to get in front of a bunch of musicians who by their very nature can be rather unforgiving.< Dear All But does brass neck always lead to the best talent emerging? Whilst at Opera North, I played for all the Leeds Conductors Competitions which have so far taken place (there is one to come this year). The winners have included several whose careers took off brightly. But those competitions were an eye opener as far as young conductors are concerned. The arrogance of some of those people was mind boggling. On the other hand, there was a very petite and shy young lady who entered twice. Obviously very nervous the first time that she entered, she was persuaded to enter again by several orchestra members who were impressed with what they saw. The second time was worse and she finished one of her sessions seemingly close to tears. Yet she obviously possessed far more talent than most of the others. Perhaps it shows that the main thing that you need to be a conductor is brass neck rather than talent! I remember one of the earlier competitions when the Chair of the jury was the late Sir Charles Groves. One young man thrashed around enthusiastically for 10 of his allotted 20 minutes in a knock out round. But then he had to think of something to say and this stumped him so, he said - "I think that I will finish early!" Sir Charles, one of the nicest and gentlest of men ever to have rode a rostrum was moved to unexpected forcefulness - "young man, you are throwing away 10 minutes of the time of a very expensive professional orchestra!" But our hero could only respond by playing through the overture (or whatever it was - I forget) again. Mind you, he sank without trace. Cheers Paul A. Kampen (W. Yorks UK) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Who's attending the Symposium?
Due to my college's summer session, and their need for me to be on campus, I will only be able to attend the workshop for two, or possibly three days. The trouble is, I don't know which days to go. I have not seen a detailed schedule of who is giving what lecture on what day, nor have I seen a schedule of who's playing what on which day. If anyone has this info, please send it to me. The web site has yet to list this information. Thanks. Wilbert in SC ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Need Member's E-mail Address
I'm in need of John Kowalchuk's email address, if anyone out here in cyberland happens to know it. Sandi Taylor Cincinnati ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org