Re: [Hornlist] Cases by Thompson Edition

2005-05-24 Thread Luke Zyla
I bought on recently.  I had to send the first one back due to 
manufacturing defect.  The replacement is very good.  I recommend them.

Cordially,
Luke Zyla
2nd horn, WV Symphony Orchestra

Bob Williams wrote:


Anyone care to share their opinions of the firm-sided fixed-bell cases from
Thompson Edition?

Bob Williams


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RE: [Hornlist] Counting Rank Measures but seriously

2005-05-24 Thread Bill Gross
Apropos of nothing other than the strange coincidence.  A gentleman who I
attended college with back in the dream time sent this to me today.  I
thought to share it, not because it is tremendous humor, just because it was
a coincident that while a discussion continued here on conductors good and
not so good this particular e-mail would arrive.

Q: What do you do with a horn player that can't play? 

A: Give him two sticks, put him in the back, and call him a percussionist. 

Q: What do you do if he can't do that?

A: Take away one of the sticks, put him up front, and call him a conductor.


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[Hornlist] Endurance / Horn post

2005-05-24 Thread rob
What approach are you taking when you practice? 

Richard Burdick 

WIlliam Botte writes: 

My post to the list was a how to begin to develope endurance question.  
The original questioner didn't want a philosphical responce.  At least 
that was what I interpreted what he wanted.
I could have entertained everyone stories fo 20 min performances that 
morfed into 3 hour mararthons.  (Pomp and Circumstance#1 two occassions)  
Or back to back perfomances of the Nutcracker.  Or an eight hour reheasal 
of South Pacific.
I would then tell the list that my philosphical approach to endurance 
saved the day for me.  What rubbish.  Long hours of practice, practice and 
more practice, built on an incremental regimen were key to my stamina.
The mental rigor to actually enjoy the practice routine and flourish where 
others quit is indicative of the character of the average "good" classical 
musician.

--wabotte


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[Hornlist] Muriel Petty

2005-05-24 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
 
Please excuse the double post
 
Pam and Peter Larkin, two friends of mine are trying to trace a friend from  
their days at the Royal Manchester College of Music.
 
The friend's name then was Muriel Petty - obviously she may have married  and 
be trading under a different surname now.  I have never met a horn  player 
called Muriel.  Have any of the British horn player met or heard of  her?
 
Pam also asked me if I'd heard of a horn player called Anthony  Halstead!  
(Ah, the innocence of age!)
 
Thanks,
 
Lawrence

 
"þaes  ofereode - þisses swa  maeg"

http://lawrenceyates.co.uk




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Re: [Hornlist] Rank Amateur Counting Measures

2005-05-24 Thread Alan Cole

Well, sure.

And I almost always hold my horn in my lap whenever I'm counting 
measures.  (Isn't that how the professionals do it too?)


Plus, did you note the goofy facial expression signifying rapt 
concentration, essential to the task?


How could even a top conservatory-trained professional look any more 
goofily rapt than that?


-- Alan Cole, rank amateur
   McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.
 ~
At 04:25 PM 5/24/2005, you wrote:

OK, I'll bite; what are we looking at that is significant?  A photo of A. 
Cole?  All I see is a guy holding a horn in his lap.


Paul Mansur




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[Hornlist] Dealing with Conductors (was counting measures, etc.)

2005-05-24 Thread Gary Greene

On 23 May 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, in part:

"But if he gets nasty, give him shit by playing exactly as he conducts, say 
yes to everything, but never "repair" mistakes he committed. Let the ship 
run into the ground. It will kill him eventually. But it is not your fault. 
But be careful: just laugh INSIDE."


Amen.  This is normal practice at the less-than-highest-levels of 
musicmaking as well.  When a good conductor makes a mistake, you try to save 
him--just as you would want him to save you if you made a mistake.  When a 
bad one makes a mistake, you do exactly what he says (verbally or through 
the stick), no more and no less.


The advantage to those who play in volunteer ensembles or who have day jobs 
and cannot be threatened very much by one of these is that often you can 
laugh on the outside as well...backstage after the performance.


The big difference is that the less light conductors make more mistakes!

Gary Greene


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Re: [Hornlist] Rank Amateur Counting Measures

2005-05-24 Thread Paul Mansur
OK, I'll bite; what are we looking at that is significant?  A photo of 
A. Cole?  All I see is a guy holding a horn in his lap.


Paul Mansur

On Saturday, May 21, 2005, at 10:47 PM, Alan Cole wrote:


OK, try it this way...

http://members.cox.net/acole2/AAC-count.jpg

(no screen name, no password, no folderol)

-AC.
 ~

Screen Name:

Password:

???

Carlberg Jones
Guanajuato, Gto.
MEXICO





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[Hornlist] Messiaen

2005-05-24 Thread rob
Greetings, 

In the list of works by Messiaen there is mention of: 

1971 Le tombeau de Jean-Pierre Guezec - Horn solo 

It does not seem to be available anywhere. Does anybody know about this 
work, have a copy to lend, or even have access to Messiaen archives 

Richard Burdick 



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[Hornlist] Re: Brass Trio

2005-05-24 Thread rob
In response to:  "Does anyone know of any college and high school  level 
Brass Trio music for horn, trumpet, and trombone?" 

I have four brass trios in my catalogue of compositions. 

My opus one is available on Ebay This work is in Five short movements and is 
sort of like Hindemith. 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41398&item=7325111253 

We played my opus 45 “The Outer Ring” quite a lot back in 1983 when I was a 
member of the “Mills Brass Trio” at Mills College in Oakland, California. 
This seems to be a three movement work, of which I have final copies of the 
first two – Uranus & Neptune. My blank score in the computer for the third 
movement is titled “Planet X” I will check into finding the original 
manuscript when I am back in California this Summer. I could have the first 
two movements edited soon if there is interest. 

I have listed an opus 115 brass trio that premiered about five years ago in 
Sacramento. 

My Opus 123 Short Brass Trio is just a simple four page score. I could also 
have this piece edited soon if there is interest . 


Richard Burdick
www-I-ching-music.com 


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[Hornlist] Re: Conductors

2005-05-24 Thread Kev24612
I totally agree. Conducting is way harder than just waving a stick around.  
It is really quite intimidating to get up in front of a group of brilliant  
musicians and to tell them what you want, especially since you know they are  
making judgements on you, probably to be shared behind your back after the  
rehearsal.
Case in point for the intimidation. Once, i believe  i was about ten, and 
playing for a junior band connected with a well known  concert band of about 
fifty brilliant musicians, the director of music came into  our rehearsal and 
volunteered me to conduct two pieces for the concert band. I  have never been 
so utterly terrified and intimidated in my life. Can you imagine  how those 
musicians appeared to me, at the height of their profession, and me a  little 
boy with about two years musical experiance. It is a similar experiance  for 
some conductors even now at the height of their profession. You  will always 
feel 
that there is somebody better than you, and if you believe that  they are 
sitting in front of you, staring at you accusingly, then you will often  allow 
yourself to be intimidated out of doing your best, and you will still be  
criticised afterwards.
And i still dont know where i'm going with this  mail so i'm gonna shut 
up now.Sorry everyone.
Kev
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Re: [Hornlist] Who's attending the Symposium?

2005-05-24 Thread Bill Tyler
It's there. Go to the IHS 2005 web site, click on
Schedule. This will bring up detailed schedules of
master classes, lectures, etc.

Bill in NC


--- Wilbert Kimple <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Due to my college's summer session, and their need
> for me to be on campus, I will only be able to
> attend the workshop for two, or possibly three
> days.  The trouble is, I don't know which days to
> go.
> 
> I have not seen a detailed schedule of who is
> giving what lecture on what day, nor have I seen a
> schedule of who's playing what on which day.
> 
> If anyone has this info, please send it to me.
> 
> The web site has yet to list this information.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Wilbert in SC
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Re: [Hornlist] Conductors

2005-05-24 Thread Richard Smith
I am fortunate to be the principal horn in church orchestra composed of 
local professionals and band directors. We get to play for services each 
week as regular part of the worship as well as special occasions during the 
year. The orchestra is thoroughly professional in ability and there are no 
prima dona attitudes!! It is a joy to play with this group.


My general perception is that good musicians who are secure in their 
abilities and don't feel like they "have something to prove" are usually not 
attitude problems. I do sometimes confidence and/or definite musical 
opinions are mistaken for arrogance.


I have been privileged to work with musicians at many levels and in all 
fields of music. In my experience, arrogance and bad attitudes seem most 
often to accompany inexperience and/or incompetence.


Richard Smith
www.rgsmithmusic.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Kampen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "The Horn List" 
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 8:35 AM
Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Conductors


Message text written by The Horn List

Personally, I have respect for anyone with the brass

to get in front of a bunch of musicians who by their
very nature can be rather unforgiving.<

Dear All

But does brass neck always lead to the best talent emerging?

Whilst at Opera North, I played for all the Leeds Conductors Competitions
which have so far taken place (there is one to come this year).

The winners have included several whose careers took off brightly.  But
those competitions were an eye opener as far as young conductors are
concerned.  The arrogance of some of those people was mind boggling.  On
the other hand, there was a very petite and shy young lady who entered
twice. Obviously very nervous the first time that she entered, she was
persuaded to enter again by several orchestra members who were impressed
with what they saw.  The second time was worse and she finished one of her
sessions  seemingly close to tears.  Yet she obviously possessed far more
talent than most of the others.  Perhaps it shows that the main thing that
you need to be a conductor is brass neck rather than talent!

I remember one of the earlier competitions when the Chair of the jury was
the late Sir Charles Groves.  One young man thrashed around
enthusiastically for 10 of his allotted 20 minutes in a knock out round.
But then he had to think of something to say and this stumped him so, he
said - "I think that I will finish early!"  Sir Charles, one of the nicest
and gentlest of men ever to have rode a rostrum was moved to unexpected
forcefulness - "young man, you are throwing away 10 minutes of the time of
a very expensive professional orchestra!"  But our hero could only respond
by playing through the overture (or whatever it was - I forget) again.
Mind you, he sank without trace.

Cheers

Paul A. Kampen (W. Yorks UK)
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RE: [Hornlist] Conductors

2005-05-24 Thread Paul Kampen
Message text written by The Horn List
>Personally, I have respect for anyone with the brass
to get in front of a bunch of musicians who by their
very nature can be rather unforgiving.<

Dear All

But does brass neck always lead to the best talent emerging?

Whilst at Opera North, I played for all the Leeds Conductors Competitions
which have so far taken place (there is one to come this year).

The winners have included several whose careers took off brightly.  But
those competitions were an eye opener as far as young conductors are
concerned.  The arrogance of some of those people was mind boggling.  On
the other hand, there was a very petite and shy young lady who entered
twice. Obviously very nervous the first time that she entered, she was
persuaded to enter again by several orchestra members who were impressed
with what they saw.  The second time was worse and she finished one of her
sessions  seemingly close to tears.  Yet she obviously possessed far more
talent than most of the others.  Perhaps it shows that the main thing that
you need to be a conductor is brass neck rather than talent!

I remember one of the earlier competitions when the Chair of the jury was
the late Sir Charles Groves.  One young man thrashed around
enthusiastically for 10 of his allotted 20 minutes in a knock out round. 
But then he had to think of something to say and this stumped him so, he
said - "I think that I will finish early!"  Sir Charles, one of the nicest
and gentlest of men ever to have rode a rostrum was moved to unexpected
forcefulness - "young man, you are throwing away 10 minutes of the time of
a very expensive professional orchestra!"  But our hero could only respond
by playing through the overture (or whatever it was - I forget) again. 
Mind you, he sank without trace.

Cheers

Paul A. Kampen (W. Yorks UK)
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Re: [Hornlist] Who's attending the Symposium?

2005-05-24 Thread Wilbert Kimple

Due to my college's summer session, and their need
for me to be on campus, I will only be able to
attend the workshop for two, or possibly three
days.  The trouble is, I don't know which days to
go.

I have not seen a detailed schedule of who is
giving what lecture on what day, nor have I seen a
schedule of who's playing what on which day.

If anyone has this info, please send it to me.

The web site has yet to list this information.

Thanks.

Wilbert in SC
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[Hornlist] Need Member's E-mail Address

2005-05-24 Thread Skt2425
 
 
I'm in need of John Kowalchuk's email address, if anyone out here in  
cyberland happens to know it.
 
Sandi Taylor
Cincinnati


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