[Hornlist] thanks! finished paper

2005-08-05 Thread Gordon, Heather
I'd like to thank Gary and Hans for responding to the questions for my paper.  
It's finished now, and I turned it in yesterday.  I enjoyed writing it so much 
that I think I'm going to keep collecting responses, and then rewrite it again 
(for myself rather than for a grade) in a few months when I have a larger pool 
of reponses.  So thanks a lot guys.  You're the best!

Heather "Red" Gordon
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Re: [Hornlist] Descant horns

2005-08-05 Thread Robert Ward


On Aug 5, 2005, at 8:29 PM, John A.Putnam wrote:


1. How many of you use a descant horn. If so how often do you use it?

4-5 times/season

2. What type of descant is it? (i.e. Bb/F alto or Bb/ Eb and so on)

Bb/Hi F made by Karl Hill
3. If you don’t use the descant as your main instrument. What piece  
would you for sure use the descant horn for?
Ravel Piano Concerto, Brandenburg 1, parts of complete  
Daphnis, any really high Haydn or Mozart Symphony, etc
4. Is there any type of ensemble in which you would rather use a  
descant than a “standard” horn?

depends on repertoire

5. Why do you personally use the descant horn?
to make certain passages more secure.  I don't think it  
should be an everyday instrument, and I don't use it very often.



Bob Ward
Acting Principal Horn
San Francisco Symphony
http://home.earthlink.net/~rnward

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[Hornlist] Descant horns (take 2 with out the mistakes)

2005-08-05 Thread John A . Putnam
Hello all,

Please excuse the mistakes earlier post.  

I am doing a general survey of how the Descant horn is used in the profession.


1. How many of you use a descant horn. If so how often do you use it?
2. What type of descant is it? (i.e. Bb/F alto or Bb/Eb and so on)
3. If you don’t use the descant as your main instrument. What piece would you 
for sure use the descant horn for?
4. Is there any type of ensemble in which you would rather use a descant than a 
“standard” horn? 
5. Why do you personally use the descant horn?
Yours truly,
John 


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[Hornlist] Descant horns

2005-08-05 Thread John A . Putnam
Hello all,

I am doing a general survey of how the Descant horn in used profession.

1. How many of you use a descant horn. If so how often do you use it?
2. What type of descant is it? (i.e. Bb/F alto or Bb/ Eb and so on)
3. If you don’t use the descant as your main instrument. What piece would you 
for sure use the descant horn for?
4. Is there any type of ensemble in which you would rather use a descant than a 
“standard” horn? 
5. Why do you personal use the descant horn?

Yours truly,
John 


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Re: [Hornlist] Pinky Problems

2005-08-05 Thread Tom Warner


On 5 Aug 2005, at 8:34 pm, William Foss wrote:

When I play every day for a long period of time, I get a pain in my  
pinky finger. The pain, which shows up about 45-50 minutes into a  
practice session, extends from the knuckle of my finger to my  
wrist. However, if I rest for about five minutes or so, I can play  
for a little while longer before the pain returns.


Get a Paxman Loop.

Simple, cheap-

Magic.

All the best,
Tom


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Re: [Hornlist] Pinky Problems

2005-08-05 Thread Jerry Houston

William Foss wrote:

Dear List,

When I play every day for a long period of time, I get a pain in my
pinky finger. The pain, which shows up about 45-50 minutes into a practice
session, extends from the knuckle of my finger to my wrist. However,
if I rest for about five minutes or so, I can play for a little while
longer before the pain returns.
...
Should I tie several dozen balloons to my horn to reduce the
pressure, or is there another option? I would appreciate any advice to 
help with this

problem.


If you're using a pinky hook to support the horn, that's probably the 
problem.  The best solution I've found is the Clebsch strap.  The email 
address escapes me for now, but I'm sure a quick Google search will find it 
for you in seconds.  I liked my first one so much I bought a second.  This 
summer, I've been switching back and forth among three of my horns, so I'll 
probably be ordering a third Real Soon Now.  (It's not hard to move one from 
one horn to another - I'm just lazy.)


There's no need to have a repairman install it (and I don't have a thing 
against repairmen).  You'll probably want to remove the pinky hook, which 
will require a few seconds with a small torch.  After that, all you need is 
a nylon cable tie to secure the bottom end of it, since the body of the 
strap wraps around the bell tail and fastens with velcro.


This strap makes holding the horn just about as comfortable as it could ever 
be.  There's no pressure on your pinky, and virtually no noticeable pressure 
anywhere else, either.  Your fingers can all move freely.  Last time I 
ordered, I believe the cost was $50 including shipping, and it's a very well 
made product.  Certainly worth the cost! 


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RE: [Hornlist] Pinky Problems

2005-08-05 Thread Robert Osmun
A strap like the one at http://store.osmun.com/browse.cfm/2,60.html will
also take pressure off the little finger. A leather handguard adds friction
to the to the grip and can be helpful.

Bob Osmun
www.osmun.com



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Scarpelli
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 3:54 PM
To: 'The Horn List'
Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Pinky Problems

Check out Bob Osmun's web site
http://store.osmun.com/browse.cfm/2,61.html

If that doesn't help, there is another horn rest I saw somewhere where the
horn will sit on a stand and relieve the pressure of holding the weight of
the horn. 

But I'm:
Old school
Macho
Stupid

(pick one)

So I will live with the pain. But I think in my case, I just need to widen
the pinky rest a little.

Regards,
Joe
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Of William Foss
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 3:35 PM
To: horn@music.memphis.edu
Subject: [Hornlist] Pinky Problems

Dear List,

When I play every day for a long period of time, I get a pain in my pinky
finger. The pain, which shows up about 45-50 minutes into a practice
session, extends from the knuckle of my finger to my wrist. However, if I
rest for about five minutes or so, I can play for a little while longer
before the pain returns.
The problem has been occurring off and on for quite a while now. I'm not
sure what causes it; I don't have an especially heavy horn, nor do I use a
lot of mouthpiece pressure. When the pain gets too bad I can't hold the
horn, which presents a problem to playing.
Should I tie several dozen balloons to my horn to reduce the pressure, or is

there another option? I would appreciate any advice to help with this
problem.

Thank you
William Foss


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Re: [Hornlist] Pinky Problems

2005-08-05 Thread LOTP
Clebsch strap!


- Original Message -
From: "William Foss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 3:34 PM
Subject: [Hornlist] Pinky Problems


> Dear List,
>
> When I play every day for a long period of time, I get a pain in my pinky
> finger. The pain, which shows up about 45-50 minutes into a practice
> session, extends from the knuckle of my finger to my wrist. However, if I
> rest for about five minutes or so, I can play for a little while longer
> before the pain returns.
> The problem has been occurring off and on for quite a while now. I'm not
> sure what causes it; I don't have an especially heavy horn, nor do I use a
> lot of mouthpiece pressure. When the pain gets too bad I can't hold the
> horn, which presents a problem to playing.
> Should I tie several dozen balloons to my horn to reduce the pressure, or
is
> there another option? I would appreciate any advice to help with this
> problem.
>
> Thank you
> William Foss
>
>
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Re: [Hornlist] Looking for composite rim

2005-08-05 Thread LOTP
Try painting the rim of her regular m'piece with clear (or even colored)
nail polish.  Cheap, effective, and completely reversible.

Paul


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To: 
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 1:04 PM
Subject: [Hornlist] Looking for composite rim


> I'm looking to buy a composite rim that fits Giardinelli-style threads.
I'm
> looking for a medium rim, at a fair price, for a friend to try.  She has
an
> allergic reaction to metal, so I want to get her a composite rim to try to
> see if it makes a difference.  Thanks.
>
> Joyce
>
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RE: [Hornlist] Pinky Problems

2005-08-05 Thread Joe Scarpelli
Check out Bob Osmun's web site 
http://store.osmun.com/browse.cfm/2,61.html

If that doesn't help, there is another horn rest I saw somewhere where the
horn will sit on a stand and relieve the pressure of holding the weight of
the horn. 

But I'm:
Old school
Macho
Stupid

(pick one)

So I will live with the pain. But I think in my case, I just need to widen
the pinky rest a little.

Regards,
Joe 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of William Foss
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 3:35 PM
To: horn@music.memphis.edu
Subject: [Hornlist] Pinky Problems

Dear List,

When I play every day for a long period of time, I get a pain in my pinky 
finger. The pain, which shows up about 45-50 minutes into a practice 
session, extends from the knuckle of my finger to my wrist. However, if I 
rest for about five minutes or so, I can play for a little while longer 
before the pain returns.
The problem has been occurring off and on for quite a while now. I'm not 
sure what causes it; I don't have an especially heavy horn, nor do I use a 
lot of mouthpiece pressure. When the pain gets too bad I can't hold the 
horn, which presents a problem to playing.
Should I tie several dozen balloons to my horn to reduce the pressure, or is

there another option? I would appreciate any advice to help with this 
problem.

Thank you
William Foss


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Re: [Hornlist] MOUTHPIECE HELP!!!

2005-08-05 Thread Aleks Ozolins
I think you'll have trouble finding this... Because it is hard to tell 
exactly when mouthpieces were made. And if you have large lips why not use a 
wider mouthpiece?


Aleks Ozolins
NYC

- Original Message - 
From: "Zach E" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 3:41 PM
Subject: [Hornlist] MOUTHPIECE HELP!!!



I am looking for Giardinelli C8 with a C-series
standard rim cup made in 1985, rim made in 1987.  If
you know where I could get this please email me. Also,
I have large lips (especialy for a horn player) does
anyone have an idea of a mouthpiece for me?

Sincerely,
Zach Elewitz

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[Hornlist] MOUTHPIECE HELP!!!

2005-08-05 Thread Zach E
I am looking for Giardinelli C8 with a C-series
standard rim cup made in 1985, rim made in 1987.  If
you know where I could get this please email me. Also,
I have large lips (especialy for a horn player) does
anyone have an idea of a mouthpiece for me?
 
Sincerely,
Zach Elewitz

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[Hornlist] Pinky Problems

2005-08-05 Thread William Foss

Dear List,

When I play every day for a long period of time, I get a pain in my pinky 
finger. The pain, which shows up about 45-50 minutes into a practice 
session, extends from the knuckle of my finger to my wrist. However, if I 
rest for about five minutes or so, I can play for a little while longer 
before the pain returns.
The problem has been occurring off and on for quite a while now. I'm not 
sure what causes it; I don't have an especially heavy horn, nor do I use a 
lot of mouthpiece pressure. When the pain gets too bad I can't hold the 
horn, which presents a problem to playing.
Should I tie several dozen balloons to my horn to reduce the pressure, or is 
there another option? I would appreciate any advice to help with this 
problem.


Thank you
William Foss


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[Hornlist] Looking for composite rim

2005-08-05 Thread Hurricane Chinooks
I'm looking to buy a composite rim that fits Giardinelli-style threads.  I'm
looking for a medium rim, at a fair price, for a friend to try.  She has an
allergic reaction to metal, so I want to get her a composite rim to try to
see if it makes a difference.  Thanks.

Joyce


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Re: [Hornlist] the "other" marching horn

2005-08-05 Thread Herbert Foster
By baritone, I assume you mean the American baritone, which is closer to a
euphonium than a true baritone (they're all "horns" in America, right?). I
often play baritone parts on my French horn. For marching, baritone is the way
to go. It gets all the good parts.

How do people play baritone/euphonium and French horn during the same session?
Once I've played on that large mouthpiece, my chops don't work on the small
one.

Herb Foster
--- Leonard Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Years ago I got trapped at a band rehearsal without my horn, or any other
> horn to use.  I used my little brain and got a baritone and played the
> French Horn music using Bb fingerings.  That really worked out well.
> Baritones are a fun instrument to play in the horn range, have a nice sound
> and are not very taxing.   Has anyone here used a Baritone as a Marching
> Horn?
> 
> LLB, Messingschlager
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RE: [Hornlist] the "other" marching horn

2005-08-05 Thread Bill Gross
Back in the dream time, when I was getting my undergrad degree, I ran across
a physics grad student who shared interest in the horn.  He said he'd taken
up the baritone in his undergrad days to play at football games and the
like.  He said that one think he noted after returning to the horn was his
lung capacity was greatly increased.


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Re: [Hornlist] the "other" marching horn

2005-08-05 Thread Adam Heuston
Yes, I've actually played jazz music on the baritone too. It sounds very 
different from a french horn when I play it, though and I can't really get that 
high in the french horn range. I could play low horn stuff on the baritone, but 
it wouldn't sound as good as it does on the horn.
 
>From what I've heard, it sounds somewhat like a wagnertuba more than an actual 
>horn. It's probably the best substitute out there, though.


Leonard Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Years ago I got trapped at a band rehearsal without my horn, or any other
horn to use. I used my little brain and got a baritone and played the
French Horn music using Bb fingerings. That really worked out well.
Baritones are a fun instrument to play in the horn range, have a nice sound
and are not very taxing. Has anyone here used a Baritone as a Marching
Horn?

LLB, Messingschlager

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Re: [Hornlist] the "other" marching horn

2005-08-05 Thread LOTP
I've often used a  BARITONE on Horn parts in a (professional) marching band.
Please understand that I mean BARITONE, not euphonium.  Nowadays I usually
play sousaphone and my wife uses the baritone on trombone parts.

Paul (still playing Horn in several other organizations)


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To: "horn list memphis" 
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 11:05 PM
Subject: [Hornlist] the "other" marching horn


> Years ago I got trapped at a band rehearsal without my horn, or any other
> horn to use.  I used my little brain and got a baritone and played the
> French Horn music using Bb fingerings.  That really worked out well.
> Baritones are a fun instrument to play in the horn range, have a nice
sound
> and are not very taxing.   Has anyone here used a Baritone as a Marching
> Horn?
>
> LLB, Messingschlager
>
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