[Hornlist] thanks! finished paper
I'd like to thank Gary and Hans for responding to the questions for my paper. It's finished now, and I turned it in yesterday. I enjoyed writing it so much that I think I'm going to keep collecting responses, and then rewrite it again (for myself rather than for a grade) in a few months when I have a larger pool of reponses. So thanks a lot guys. You're the best! Heather "Red" Gordon ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Descant horns
On Aug 5, 2005, at 8:29 PM, John A.Putnam wrote: 1. How many of you use a descant horn. If so how often do you use it? 4-5 times/season 2. What type of descant is it? (i.e. Bb/F alto or Bb/ Eb and so on) Bb/Hi F made by Karl Hill 3. If you don’t use the descant as your main instrument. What piece would you for sure use the descant horn for? Ravel Piano Concerto, Brandenburg 1, parts of complete Daphnis, any really high Haydn or Mozart Symphony, etc 4. Is there any type of ensemble in which you would rather use a descant than a “standard” horn? depends on repertoire 5. Why do you personally use the descant horn? to make certain passages more secure. I don't think it should be an everyday instrument, and I don't use it very often. Bob Ward Acting Principal Horn San Francisco Symphony http://home.earthlink.net/~rnward ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Descant horns (take 2 with out the mistakes)
Hello all, Please excuse the mistakes earlier post. I am doing a general survey of how the Descant horn is used in the profession. 1. How many of you use a descant horn. If so how often do you use it? 2. What type of descant is it? (i.e. Bb/F alto or Bb/Eb and so on) 3. If you dont use the descant as your main instrument. What piece would you for sure use the descant horn for? 4. Is there any type of ensemble in which you would rather use a descant than a standard horn? 5. Why do you personally use the descant horn? Yours truly, John ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Descant horns
Hello all, I am doing a general survey of how the Descant horn in used profession. 1. How many of you use a descant horn. If so how often do you use it? 2. What type of descant is it? (i.e. Bb/F alto or Bb/ Eb and so on) 3. If you dont use the descant as your main instrument. What piece would you for sure use the descant horn for? 4. Is there any type of ensemble in which you would rather use a descant than a standard horn? 5. Why do you personal use the descant horn? Yours truly, John ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Pinky Problems
On 5 Aug 2005, at 8:34 pm, William Foss wrote: When I play every day for a long period of time, I get a pain in my pinky finger. The pain, which shows up about 45-50 minutes into a practice session, extends from the knuckle of my finger to my wrist. However, if I rest for about five minutes or so, I can play for a little while longer before the pain returns. Get a Paxman Loop. Simple, cheap- Magic. All the best, Tom ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Pinky Problems
William Foss wrote: Dear List, When I play every day for a long period of time, I get a pain in my pinky finger. The pain, which shows up about 45-50 minutes into a practice session, extends from the knuckle of my finger to my wrist. However, if I rest for about five minutes or so, I can play for a little while longer before the pain returns. ... Should I tie several dozen balloons to my horn to reduce the pressure, or is there another option? I would appreciate any advice to help with this problem. If you're using a pinky hook to support the horn, that's probably the problem. The best solution I've found is the Clebsch strap. The email address escapes me for now, but I'm sure a quick Google search will find it for you in seconds. I liked my first one so much I bought a second. This summer, I've been switching back and forth among three of my horns, so I'll probably be ordering a third Real Soon Now. (It's not hard to move one from one horn to another - I'm just lazy.) There's no need to have a repairman install it (and I don't have a thing against repairmen). You'll probably want to remove the pinky hook, which will require a few seconds with a small torch. After that, all you need is a nylon cable tie to secure the bottom end of it, since the body of the strap wraps around the bell tail and fastens with velcro. This strap makes holding the horn just about as comfortable as it could ever be. There's no pressure on your pinky, and virtually no noticeable pressure anywhere else, either. Your fingers can all move freely. Last time I ordered, I believe the cost was $50 including shipping, and it's a very well made product. Certainly worth the cost! ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Pinky Problems
A strap like the one at http://store.osmun.com/browse.cfm/2,60.html will also take pressure off the little finger. A leather handguard adds friction to the to the grip and can be helpful. Bob Osmun www.osmun.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Scarpelli Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 3:54 PM To: 'The Horn List' Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Pinky Problems Check out Bob Osmun's web site http://store.osmun.com/browse.cfm/2,61.html If that doesn't help, there is another horn rest I saw somewhere where the horn will sit on a stand and relieve the pressure of holding the weight of the horn. But I'm: Old school Macho Stupid (pick one) So I will live with the pain. But I think in my case, I just need to widen the pinky rest a little. Regards, Joe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Foss Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 3:35 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Pinky Problems Dear List, When I play every day for a long period of time, I get a pain in my pinky finger. The pain, which shows up about 45-50 minutes into a practice session, extends from the knuckle of my finger to my wrist. However, if I rest for about five minutes or so, I can play for a little while longer before the pain returns. The problem has been occurring off and on for quite a while now. I'm not sure what causes it; I don't have an especially heavy horn, nor do I use a lot of mouthpiece pressure. When the pain gets too bad I can't hold the horn, which presents a problem to playing. Should I tie several dozen balloons to my horn to reduce the pressure, or is there another option? I would appreciate any advice to help with this problem. Thank you William Foss ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/joescarpelli%40earthlink.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/rosmun%40osmun.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Pinky Problems
Clebsch strap! - Original Message - From: "William Foss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 3:34 PM Subject: [Hornlist] Pinky Problems > Dear List, > > When I play every day for a long period of time, I get a pain in my pinky > finger. The pain, which shows up about 45-50 minutes into a practice > session, extends from the knuckle of my finger to my wrist. However, if I > rest for about five minutes or so, I can play for a little while longer > before the pain returns. > The problem has been occurring off and on for quite a while now. I'm not > sure what causes it; I don't have an especially heavy horn, nor do I use a > lot of mouthpiece pressure. When the pain gets too bad I can't hold the > horn, which presents a problem to playing. > Should I tie several dozen balloons to my horn to reduce the pressure, or is > there another option? I would appreciate any advice to help with this > problem. > > Thank you > William Foss > > > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/lotp%40comcast.net > ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Looking for composite rim
Try painting the rim of her regular m'piece with clear (or even colored) nail polish. Cheap, effective, and completely reversible. Paul - Original Message - From: "Hurricane Chinooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 1:04 PM Subject: [Hornlist] Looking for composite rim > I'm looking to buy a composite rim that fits Giardinelli-style threads. I'm > looking for a medium rim, at a fair price, for a friend to try. She has an > allergic reaction to metal, so I want to get her a composite rim to try to > see if it makes a difference. Thanks. > > Joyce > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.8/61 - Release Date: 8/1/2005 > > > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/lotp%40comcast.net > ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Pinky Problems
Check out Bob Osmun's web site http://store.osmun.com/browse.cfm/2,61.html If that doesn't help, there is another horn rest I saw somewhere where the horn will sit on a stand and relieve the pressure of holding the weight of the horn. But I'm: Old school Macho Stupid (pick one) So I will live with the pain. But I think in my case, I just need to widen the pinky rest a little. Regards, Joe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Foss Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 3:35 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Pinky Problems Dear List, When I play every day for a long period of time, I get a pain in my pinky finger. The pain, which shows up about 45-50 minutes into a practice session, extends from the knuckle of my finger to my wrist. However, if I rest for about five minutes or so, I can play for a little while longer before the pain returns. The problem has been occurring off and on for quite a while now. I'm not sure what causes it; I don't have an especially heavy horn, nor do I use a lot of mouthpiece pressure. When the pain gets too bad I can't hold the horn, which presents a problem to playing. Should I tie several dozen balloons to my horn to reduce the pressure, or is there another option? I would appreciate any advice to help with this problem. Thank you William Foss ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/joescarpelli%40earthlink.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] MOUTHPIECE HELP!!!
I think you'll have trouble finding this... Because it is hard to tell exactly when mouthpieces were made. And if you have large lips why not use a wider mouthpiece? Aleks Ozolins NYC - Original Message - From: "Zach E" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 3:41 PM Subject: [Hornlist] MOUTHPIECE HELP!!! I am looking for Giardinelli C8 with a C-series standard rim cup made in 1985, rim made in 1987. If you know where I could get this please email me. Also, I have large lips (especialy for a horn player) does anyone have an idea of a mouthpiece for me? Sincerely, Zach Elewitz __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/aleksozolins%40hotmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] MOUTHPIECE HELP!!!
I am looking for Giardinelli C8 with a C-series standard rim cup made in 1985, rim made in 1987. If you know where I could get this please email me. Also, I have large lips (especialy for a horn player) does anyone have an idea of a mouthpiece for me? Sincerely, Zach Elewitz __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Pinky Problems
Dear List, When I play every day for a long period of time, I get a pain in my pinky finger. The pain, which shows up about 45-50 minutes into a practice session, extends from the knuckle of my finger to my wrist. However, if I rest for about five minutes or so, I can play for a little while longer before the pain returns. The problem has been occurring off and on for quite a while now. I'm not sure what causes it; I don't have an especially heavy horn, nor do I use a lot of mouthpiece pressure. When the pain gets too bad I can't hold the horn, which presents a problem to playing. Should I tie several dozen balloons to my horn to reduce the pressure, or is there another option? I would appreciate any advice to help with this problem. Thank you William Foss ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Looking for composite rim
I'm looking to buy a composite rim that fits Giardinelli-style threads. I'm looking for a medium rim, at a fair price, for a friend to try. She has an allergic reaction to metal, so I want to get her a composite rim to try to see if it makes a difference. Thanks. Joyce -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.8/61 - Release Date: 8/1/2005 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] the "other" marching horn
By baritone, I assume you mean the American baritone, which is closer to a euphonium than a true baritone (they're all "horns" in America, right?). I often play baritone parts on my French horn. For marching, baritone is the way to go. It gets all the good parts. How do people play baritone/euphonium and French horn during the same session? Once I've played on that large mouthpiece, my chops don't work on the small one. Herb Foster --- Leonard Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Years ago I got trapped at a band rehearsal without my horn, or any other > horn to use. I used my little brain and got a baritone and played the > French Horn music using Bb fingerings. That really worked out well. > Baritones are a fun instrument to play in the horn range, have a nice sound > and are not very taxing. Has anyone here used a Baritone as a Marching > Horn? > > LLB, Messingschlager > > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/herb_foster%40yahoo.com > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] the "other" marching horn
Back in the dream time, when I was getting my undergrad degree, I ran across a physics grad student who shared interest in the horn. He said he'd taken up the baritone in his undergrad days to play at football games and the like. He said that one think he noted after returning to the horn was his lung capacity was greatly increased. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] the "other" marching horn
Yes, I've actually played jazz music on the baritone too. It sounds very different from a french horn when I play it, though and I can't really get that high in the french horn range. I could play low horn stuff on the baritone, but it wouldn't sound as good as it does on the horn. >From what I've heard, it sounds somewhat like a wagnertuba more than an actual >horn. It's probably the best substitute out there, though. Leonard Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Years ago I got trapped at a band rehearsal without my horn, or any other horn to use. I used my little brain and got a baritone and played the French Horn music using Bb fingerings. That really worked out well. Baritones are a fun instrument to play in the horn range, have a nice sound and are not very taxing. Has anyone here used a Baritone as a Marching Horn? LLB, Messingschlager ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/fattygoatspwnyou%40yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] the "other" marching horn
I've often used a BARITONE on Horn parts in a (professional) marching band. Please understand that I mean BARITONE, not euphonium. Nowadays I usually play sousaphone and my wife uses the baritone on trombone parts. Paul (still playing Horn in several other organizations) - Original Message - From: "Leonard Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "horn list memphis" Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 11:05 PM Subject: [Hornlist] the "other" marching horn > Years ago I got trapped at a band rehearsal without my horn, or any other > horn to use. I used my little brain and got a baritone and played the > French Horn music using Bb fingerings. That really worked out well. > Baritones are a fun instrument to play in the horn range, have a nice sound > and are not very taxing. Has anyone here used a Baritone as a Marching > Horn? > > LLB, Messingschlager > > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/lotp%40comcast.net > ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org