[Hornlist] desaster
My deep condolences to those who have lost relatives, house, all. Nature bites back sometimes nobody really can predict when where. I crossed the Tibetan/Nepalese border just 24 hours after a 2,5 ton rock atomized a truck waiting the same place we entered our bus to Kathmandu. We saw the remains of the truck. Nothing left. Sometimes one is lucky, sometimes not. Road was very dangerous difficult, special when it was just 1 1/2 trucks wide, running along the steep mountain with free fall on the valley side for some 500 meters or more, special when a 25 ton truck had to pass our land cruiser. It was work inch by inch. We loaned at the mountainside, the trucks left outer tires eventually passing have out in the air. Well, these drivers possess good nerves sensivity, which would help many horn players. By the way, I did not get the chance to hear any of these temple horns. We were even very disappointed about the behaviour of monks up at the Mt.Everest Base Camp, where they participated in a fight against a motocycle driver throw 10 to 15 kgs rocks upon the motocycle, which could have exploded mid in the crowd. High altitude was no issue for us crossing 8 passes over 5.200 meters. Toilets is a special disastrous matter in Tibet, so we chose the on-the-rocks or between-the-rocks method. Yes, I saw some horns, some Nura-Sing in Nepal - you know, the copper horns, made of sections like lures, but curved to the one to the other side -, a lot of Tibetan temple horns of all sizes, horns with dragon heads, some superb Shiva horns, made of silver decorated shells (with turquoise metal inlay in the one case with a rock crytal replacing the inside shell in the other horn I bought). The temple horns were all of recent production. Some temple horns were real monster horns. Well, I saw some other interesting horns on animals snout: rhino. There are plenty (372) rhinos in the 932 sqkm Chitwan National Park on Indian/Nepalese border. Also 107 tigers 35 wild elephants. We could see these elephants (2 males) rhinos from the camp. We also found tiger malay bear traces just 300 - 400 mts from the camp came close to one tiger 5 meters. Our elephant got a branch from a tree (suddenly) to throw it at a nearby bush, when the monkeys started screeming hysterically to warn us about the hidden tiger. He/she retreated unseen fortunately (I dont like being used as pet food) or unfortunately if you think about taking pictures. Have to come back once again when the elephant grass is not 4 - 5 mts high, so we can trace the tigers better. Lovely people there good tasty food. But NO TV. Just a message about my holidays, but it turned to be (natural) horn like (rhino). They were near extinct 30 years ago have recovered due to the royal protection. By the way, have just seen a handful of policemen while in Tibet; all were polite, We got just one check, when driving up to the base camp. The monasteries in Tibet, special the holy places, were full of pilgrims faithful. As interesting as it is, this version of Buddhism with all the mythological daemons all the superstition is far from the philosophy as I know from Thailand. But very colourful. You have to pay nearly every part of the monasteries, when you like to take pictures. It sums up. If you are interested on a visit, write me privately. Greetings Hans Prof.Hans Pizka, Pf.1136 D-85541 Kirchheim - Germany Fax: 49 89 903-9414 Phone: 903-9548 home: www.pizka.de email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Band music....
Dear fatty goat you, That depends -- when you get to playing standard symphonic band music such as the Holst Suites, Toccata Marziale, R. Vaughn Williams, Morton Gould and such top notch music you will have stuff for the horns only to play! When you play 6-way scored works you'll get the Eb line also played by Alto saxophones, which is the standard for way too much commercial trash cranked out for school bands. You might get some bass clef music. You will get bass clef when you get into orchestra music. Standard orchestra, that is. CORdially, Paul Mansur On Thursday, September 1, 2005, at 11:05 PM, Adam Heuston wrote: Well, I am a high school student and I just have to wonder. Is there gonna be any bass clef reading in high school band music? Or will there FINALLY be a bit that the horn section and only the horn section plays? - Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/p_mansur1%40comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Band music....
When doing (faithful) orchestral transcriptions I've run into some bass clef, but you've gotta have a pretty darn good band (and band director) to pull that kind of stuff off. From: Paul Mansur [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Band music Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 11:40:53 -0400 Dear fatty goat you, That depends -- when you get to playing standard symphonic band music such as the Holst Suites, Toccata Marziale, R. Vaughn Williams, Morton Gould and such top notch music you will have stuff for the horns only to play! When you play 6-way scored works you'll get the Eb line also played by Alto saxophones, which is the standard for way too much commercial trash cranked out for school bands. You might get some bass clef music. You will get bass clef when you get into orchestra music. Standard orchestra, that is. CORdially, Paul Mansur On Thursday, September 1, 2005, at 11:05 PM, Adam Heuston wrote: Well, I am a high school student and I just have to wonder. Is there gonna be any bass clef reading in high school band music? Or will there FINALLY be a bit that the horn section and only the horn section plays? - Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/p_mansur1%40comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/treyinitalia%40hotmail.com _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] desaster
Thank you, Hans. As someone who lives in Hattiesburg, I can say that the destruction here is quite unbelievable. My apartment survived, but a few in my town did not, as well as a few homes. I had to leave town because of no water/food/gas/power/phone lines but hopefully I should be able to return next week. I hope no one on the horn list had to suffer through this, but I agree with Hans, and offer my sympathies. My 2nd cousin lost everything in New Orleans, and on my mothers side there were about 5 houses lost on the Mississippi Gulf Coast. I also was going to play utility with the Gulf Coast Symphony Orchestra this year for Mahler 1 and the Planets but I'm sure now thats not going to happen. Any help is needed in this area, so if you want to donate to the Red Cross or anything it will be most beneficial. Hundreds of thousands of lives have been affected by this storm, and although the road to recovery will be long, we will pull through with the help of human kindness. Thanks -William In a message dated 9/2/2005 7:38:02 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My deep condolences to those who have lost relatives, house, all. Nature bites back sometimes nobody really can predict when where. I crossed the Tibetan/Nepalese border just 24 hours after a 2,5 ton rock atomized a truck waiting the same place we entered our bus to Kathmandu. We saw the remains of the truck. Nothing left. Sometimes one is lucky, sometimes not. Road was very dangerous difficult, special when it was just 1 1/2 trucks wide, running along the steep mountain with free fall on the valley side for some 500 meters or more, special when a 25 ton truck had to pass our land cruiser. It was work inch by inch. We loaned at the mountainside, the trucks left outer tires eventually passing have out in the air. Well, these drivers possess good nerves sensivity, which would help many horn players. By the way, I did not get the chance to hear any of these temple horns. We were even very disappointed about the behaviour of monks up at the Mt.Everest Base Camp, where they participated in a fight against a motocycle driver throw 10 to 15 kgs rocks upon the motocycle, which could have exploded mid in the crowd. High altitude was no issue for us crossing 8 passes over 5.200 meters. Toilets is a special disastrous matter in Tibet, so we chose the on-the-rocks or between-the-rocks method. Yes, I saw some horns, some Nura-Sing in Nepal - you know, the copper horns, made of sections like lures, but curved to the one to the other side -, a lot of Tibetan temple horns of all sizes, horns with dragon heads, some superb Shiva horns, made of silver decorated shells (with turquoise metal inlay in the one case with a rock crytal replacing the inside shell in the other horn I bought). The temple horns were all of recent production. Some temple horns were real monster horns. Well, I saw some other interesting horns on animals snout: rhino. There are plenty (372) rhinos in the 932 sqkm Chitwan National Park on Indian/Nepalese border. Also 107 tigers 35 wild elephants. We could see these elephants (2 males) rhinos from the camp. We also found tiger malay bear traces just 300 - 400 mts from the camp came close to one tiger 5 meters. Our elephant got a branch from a tree (suddenly) to throw it at a nearby bush, when the monkeys started screeming hysterically to warn us about the hidden tiger. He/she retreated unseen fortunately (I dont like being used as pet food) or unfortunately if you think about taking pictures. Have to come back once again when the elephant grass is not 4 - 5 mts high, so we can trace the tigers better. Lovely people there good tasty food. But NO TV. Just a message about my holidays, but it turned to be (natural) horn like (rhino). They were near extinct 30 years ago have recovered due to the royal protection. By the way, have just seen a handful of policemen while in Tibet; all were polite, We got just one check, when driving up to the base camp. The monasteries in Tibet, special the holy places, were full of pilgrims faithful. As interesting as it is, this version of Buddhism with all the mythological daemons all the superstition is far from the philosophy as I know from Thailand. But very colourful. You have to pay nearly every part of the monasteries, when you like to take pictures. It sums up. If you are interested on a visit, write me privately. Greetings Hans Prof.Hans Pizka, Pf.1136 D-85541 Kirchheim - Germany Fax: 49 89 903-9414 Phone: 903-9548 home: www.pizka.de email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Thunderlip
I would suggest calling Canadian Music Centre in Toronto (416) 961-6601 and ask them if they have any info on them. Perhaps they can give you a phone number. Regards, Joe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Linda Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 11:23 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Thunderlip I'm trying to find e-mail contact information or Internet presence for Thunderlip (music publisher) in Toronto to order some music. Does anyone have any info other than the snail mail address (found on The Horn Player's FAQ)? Thanks, Linda ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/joescarpelli%40earthlink.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Rushing headaches while playing
I thought I¹d put this out there in case there is a Dr. or someone else who has experienced this. After I play Siegfried¹s Short Call I feel a rush of pain to my forehead that lasts maybe 4 seconds then goes away. Sometimes its is bearable and I can keep going, but the pain gets progressively more intense the more I practice it. I don¹t have headache problems and I don¹t think it¹s related to allergies because it happens at various times of the year. I¹ll discuss it with my Dr., but thought I¹d see if anyone else has experience with this. Paulette Velazquez ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Rushing headaches while playing
Paulette, why do you practice the Short Call, if you get head ache then ??? The head ache warns you, that you are doing something in a very wrong way. You seem not to have the strength in the high range. But is the Short Call anything high except the last run up to c3 ?? I doubt it. It is not really a high passage as it climbs to g2 only, except the lost run. If such a task comes up, one must be ready for it LOONG BEEEFR. Understood ??? No, you cannot understand that, as your philosophy (and the philosophy of others) is it, that one has just to practise enough. Wrong, absolutely wrong. One has to grow step by step in a rather lengthy process. Then the Short Call will not create such sensations (or pains) as you described. You seem to hold the lips much to tight together you seem further to do the solo with much to big force. Iut is not that like. Loud playing comes just at the end, as the orchestra starts playing one should be heard. But loud playing has nothing to do with big force. One needs the technique to release more air instead blowing much air through a narrow hole. If you are not able to do that, hands-off the Short Call. You might ruin much more than you gain by practising the SHORT CALL. What is to be practised with the Short Call at all ? Nothing, nothing, nothing. If home work is done long before, these F-major (written as C-major) passages are so simple like beginner exercises. Well, playing the last step-by-step triplets run requires a quite fast single tongue. If you take this solo to prepare your fast single tongue, it is the wrong place. Do home work first, get the necessary strength first, and then just play the Short Call without even thinking. Punctum ! Once again: PUNCTUM ! Your pain in the head is not a case for any medic, it is just a thing you can solve by yourself by keeping playing studying discipline. Last word: if you really play the Short Call in a performance with BIG ORCHESTRA, and if you go on full power for the high c, well, you will feel a certain pressure in your head anyway, sometimes nearly passing out ! But you seem to be still far away from that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paulette Velazquez Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 8:37 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Rushing headaches while playing I thought I¹d put this out there in case there is a Dr. or someone else who has experienced this. After I play Siegfried¹s Short Call I feel a rush of pain to my forehead that lasts maybe 4 seconds then goes away. Sometimes its is bearable and I can keep going, but the pain gets progressively more intense the more I practice it. I don¹t have headache problems and I don¹t think it¹s related to allergies because it happens at various times of the year. I¹ll discuss it with my Dr., but thought I¹d see if anyone else has experience with this. Paulette Velazquez ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Band Music...
While I have rarely seen pieces composed /for/ band that call for French Horn in bass cleff, my school's Wind Symphony has played tons of orchestral arrangements where the fourth, and even third, horns play more than half of the time in bass clef. An example of such a piece would be Carl Orf's /Carmina Burana/, but as mentioned by another reader, such songs are a very ambitions undertaking. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Rushing headaches while playing
You certainly want to bring this to a doctor's attention as soon as possible. Your doctor has modern resources to quickly rule out anything serious, and will probably have an explanation to put you at ease. You have a lot of friends on the list who will be waiting for you to post that you have an appointment with your doctor. To answer your question, no, I've never heard of a condition quite like that unless accompanied by a severe head cold. You brought it up and got our interest and concern. You now have a responsibility to yourself and your friends to report a definitive answer. -Original Message- From: Paulette Velazquez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 14:37:09 -0500 Subject: [Hornlist] Rushing headaches while playing I thought I¹d put this out there in case there is a Dr. or someone else who has experienced this. After I play Siegfried¹s Short Call I feel a rush of pain to my forehead that lasts maybe 4 seconds then goes away. Sometimes its is bearable and I can keep going, but the pain gets progressively more intense the more I practice it. I don¹t have headache problems and I don¹t think it¹s related to allergies because it happens at various times of the year. I¹ll discuss it with my Dr., but thought I¹d see if anyone else has experience with this. Paulette Velazquez ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/billbamberg%40aol.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Burton Harding
Burton Hardin: If you are still lurking on the list, please contact me privately. Thanks, Dr. Eldon Matlick, Horn Professor, University of Oklahoma Principal Hornist, OK City Philharmonic 500 W Boyd Norman, OK 73019 (405) 325-4093 off. (405) 325-7574 fax Conn-Selmer Educational Artist http://ouhorns.com __ Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Reynolds Cleveland chambers horns
Hi list, I figured I'd give you the first dibs. I have two reynolds chambers horns, 1 nickel 1 brass. The brass horn has serial number 72000 and the nickel horn serial number 78000. Both have the heavy bell and shorter leadpipe. The brass horn has an RMC engraving and the nickel horn has Reynolds Contempora made in USA- the nickel horn was made right before the abilene move, but does have a heavy bell. The yellow brass horn has newer valves with excellent compression and some modification to the valve section making it very notchy and comfortable to play. The nickel horn has been hand lapped and bearings swedged but would benefit from a plating of some kind. Both horns play superbly and are better than most elkhart 8d's out there. the yellow brass horn is a little notchier and has a nice High C to High F range-I don't want to sell both, so take your pick- I'd like 1200$ for each- or a partial trade on some kind of descant horn or a good high horn(single Bb or something). I wo uld sell both if you twisted my arm...Come on guys, fund my college career- Call me at (319)-296-5220 if you're interested. Thanks for the free advertisement list, Josh Johnson ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] desaster
Glad to see you were spared the brunt of it, William. My dad, stepmom, brother and their blind dog evacuated from New Orleans Saturday. My parents made it here to San Antonio on Sunday, but my brother didn't make it until Tuesday. This is hard on my parents because they are nurse administrators at Charity Hospital downtown, where it's horrendous, and are on the recovery team. They can't get in the city until all the chaos and water are gone. And they want to do their job so badly, but are under orders to stay away. Their house may be badly damaged or gone, but they don't know. Fortunately, they still have jobs (they work for the state), money and benefits. So does my brother, who works for Sam's Warehouse, but he was finishing his degree at the Univ. of New Orleans. All are staying with an aunt of mine. In addition, one of my cousins is on stand-by with the Army to go in New Orleans for either relief or police action. My twin sister's school where she works is on stand-by as well to take in refugees, which may happen as soon as a few days. A lot of wait and see for my family. But thankful that they're here. Donations of any kind, especially to the American Red Cross, are needed. And those who have donated, thank you. Angela Gonzales [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you, Hans. As someone who lives in Hattiesburg, I can say that the destruction here is quite unbelievable. My apartment survived, but a few in my town did not, as well as a few homes. I had to leave town because of no water/food/gas/power/phone lines but hopefully I should be able to return next week. I hope no one on the horn list had to suffer through this, but I agree with Hans, and offer my sympathies. My 2nd cousin lost everything in New Orleans, and on my mothers side there were about 5 houses lost on the Mississippi Gulf Coast. I also was going to play utility with the Gulf Coast Symphony Orchestra this year for Mahler 1 and the Planets but I'm sure now thats not going to happen. Any help is needed in this area, so if you want to donate to the Red Cross or anything it will be most beneficial. Hundreds of thousands of lives have been affected by this storm, and although the road to recovery will be long, we will pull through with the help of human kindness. Thanks -William - Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Re: Band Music...
One of my composition students just gave our symphonic band a piece that had some double low E's for the horns in bass clef. I tried to warn my student; my less experienced students who have mostly band experience expressed some anxieties about the low pedals, and admitted they didn't even know those notes existed. Bob Dickow Lionel Hampton School of Music University of Idaho, Moscow -Original Message- While I have rarely seen pieces composed /for/ band that call for French Horn in bass cleff, my school's Wind Symphony has played tons of orchestral arrangements where the fourth, and even third, horns play more than half of the time in bass clef. An example of such a piece snip ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Burton Hardin
Eldon, Dr.Burton Hardin is under nurse care since some while he is not online anymore. Because of his health, he is not able to follow these things. As I have not heard anything different, he should be still alive, but he will not be able to answer any question. Life seems to be hard, but this is the reality we have to live with. Greetings Hans -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eldon Matlick Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 11:03 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Burton Harding Burton Hardin: If you are still lurking on the list, please contact me privately. Thanks, Dr. Eldon Matlick, Horn Professor, University of Oklahoma Principal Hornist, OK City Philharmonic 500 W Boyd Norman, OK 73019 (405) 325-4093 off. (405) 325-7574 fax Conn-Selmer Educational Artist http://ouhorns.com __ Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
