Re: [Hornlist] Silver horn - now NHR
I've done this kind of casting using an RF generator. A microwave oven can be modified as a cheap enclosure, but the standard microwave generator doesn't work very well unless it's all you have. With the RF, graphite can be used as a mold/susceptor. Union Carbide ATJ graphite has the properties you need. Vitreous carbon is a better material, but ATJ is much easier to machine. Making the enclosure gas tight allows working in inert gas or vacuum. Since the molding is done at high temperature, molding to exact size requires correction for expansion. Usually a blank is molded to near size and final dimensions achieved by machining to shape. -Original Message- From: Hans.Pizka [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'The Horn List' horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Sun, 2 Jul 2006 15:20:45 +0200 Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Silver horn - now NHR Can you imagine, casting mouthpieces precisely as for these bunch of super curious horn players who even see a difference in the bore of 0,1 mms or less as a catastrophe - or better said as a welcome excuse fortheir own failure ? Or, how to home bake new rotors, where even professional drillers have difficulties making a fitting replacement ? - no way, absolutely no way for the layman, as it is a matter of fractions of mms degrees. But it could be fun ruining valuable horns by using home baked rotors or pistons. Surely this kind of technique is used for casting of raw forms which have to be brought to precisision later by the same process as normally. But how about porosity without casting under pressure ? === -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carlberg Jones Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 12:54 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Silver horn - now NHR It seems to me that this sort of experimentation can lead to technological advancements in an area of little economic interest, such as mouthpiece and rotor/piston design and construction. At 6:34 AM -0400 7/2/06, David Goldberg wrote: Inspired by this thought and Hans's response that included the melting point of sterling silver, I stumbled on this remarkable website. DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME: http://home.c2i.net/metaphor/mvpage.html -- Carlberg Jones Guanajuato, Gto. MEXICO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: carlbergbmug - http://skype.com/ My ISP feels that some of my e-mails are not worthy of deliverance. If you do not receive something you expect, please ask me to resend. I apologize for my ISP's evaluation of my e-mail's worthiness. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/billbamberg%40aol.com Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] concert bands
You know, if band directors were teaching music instead of teaching contest songs every town in America would have a concert band. Instead we have about 98% of our high school graduates putting their instruments away forever the day after graduation. LLB (ducking) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Avoiding Difficult Etudes
Previous: (from me:) Steve,. Don't play etudes that you don't enjoy. There are many different ways to develop as a horn player without needing to practice drudgery that you don't like. __ Then, Richard wrote: The etudes I do not relish are the ones which challenge me to go beyond my present level. If I avoid them because they are unpleasant, I will end up treading water, going nowhere. No pain, no gain. Ultimately I think it's more fun to try to be a good horn player than a mediocre one, even if one does not succeed. Richard ___ My followup: Richard, While I acknowledge your comment on not liking difficult etudes, I want to clarify that I did not suggest to Steve to avoid difficult etudes. I see no relationship between the technical difficulty of music and its enjoyment. Some of the most technically difficult music (and etudes) are the most enjoyable. In fact, I prefer being with ensembles that play more difficult music. Many of us feel great satisfaction in progressing with our horn playing, and the only way to see the progress is by playing more difficult music. Simple music can always be a challenge, too, to play simple music more beautifully. I find some of the simple horn passages to be artistically challenging. Regards, Larry __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Avoiding Difficult Etudes
One can even play a C-major scale musically have fun, so it be with etudes. === -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Jellison Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 9:01 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Avoiding Difficult Etudes Previous: (from me:) Steve,. Don't play etudes that you don't enjoy. There are many different ways to develop as a horn player without needing to practice drudgery that you don't like. __ Then, Richard wrote: The etudes I do not relish are the ones which challenge me to go beyond my present level. If I avoid them because they are unpleasant, I will end up treading water, going nowhere. No pain, no gain. Ultimately I think it's more fun to try to be a good horn player than a mediocre one, even if one does not succeed. Richard ___ My followup: Richard, While I acknowledge your comment on not liking difficult etudes, I want to clarify that I did not suggest to Steve to avoid difficult etudes. I see no relationship between the technical difficulty of music and its enjoyment. Some of the most technically difficult music (and etudes) are the most enjoyable. In fact, I prefer being with ensembles that play more difficult music. Many of us feel great satisfaction in progressing with our horn playing, and the only way to see the progress is by playing more difficult music. Simple music can always be a challenge, too, to play simple music more beautifully. I find some of the simple horn passages to be artistically challenging. Regards, Larry __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Haydn/Dorati Horn Players?
Does anyone have any information on the horn players who played in the Philharmonia Hungarica during all these recordings? They range from the late 60's to early 70's. Truly amazing players. I just picked up the the set with No's 48-59. The Maria Theresia was superb. It would be nice to have a resource, perhaps a website, that lists all the Haydn symphonies and how the horns are used and in what keys they are in. There are some fascinating symphonies that are rarely playedand I can see why! Thanks Larry ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] post a message
Might it be translated in the Tuckwell recording liner notes? There is also a website, the name has slipped my memory, that you can type in whatever.the whole German if you need..and it translates it for you. Larry ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] concert bands
LLB, No reason to duck. I completely agree. When my oldest son (clarinet) and my youngest son (trombone) were taking lessons it took almost superhuman effort to convince the teachers (both highly regarded) that they were not interested in auditioning for All-State Band and/or Orchestra. I was a public school teacher for nearly 30 years and have seen the destructive results of teaching to the test. The joy of actually learning something for its own sake is almost totally ignored in such circumstances. When the test (or audition) if finished there is no longer any incentive. Music and sex should not be competition sports! Paul Truszkowski American Weldery Band West Morris Concert Band Whitehouse Wind Symphony PS. All my children still play! \ - Original Message - From: Leonard Peggy Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: horn list memphis horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 3:34 PM Subject: [Hornlist] concert bands You know, if band directors were teaching music instead of teaching contest songs every town in America would have a concert band. Instead we have about 98% of our high school graduates putting their instruments away forever the day after graduation. LLB (ducking) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/lotp%40comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Haydn/Dorati Horn Players?
I believe Christopher Leuba was principal on these recordings. Others, I'm not sure of. I know there was a Horn Call from the early 80's that had an article about the use of horns in Haydn Symphonies. It listed the 'unique' symphonies...ones in C or Bb alto, ones with 4 horns, as well as the highest notes in these works (high F in Trio of Symph 51 as well as high Eb in the horn solo at the beginning of the 2nd mvt). It was this article that turned me on to Haydn symphonies. Unfortunatly, I can't seem to find this issue... Dan On Jul 3, 2006, at 3:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have any information on the horn players who played in the Philharmonia Hungarica during all these recordings? They range from the late 60's to early 70's. Truly amazing players. I just picked up the the set with No's 48-59. The Maria Theresia was superb. It would be nice to have a resource, perhaps a website, that lists all the Haydn symphonies and how the horns are used and in what keys they are in. There are some fascinating symphonies that are rarely playedand I can see why! Thanks Larry ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/ options/horn/horn34%40mcleodusa.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Haydn/Dorati Horn Players?
Larry: My recollection is that several hornplayers shared the principal spot over the years. One of them, I believe, was Robert Freund from Vienna. Another was the American hornist, Christopher Leuba. I hope my ancient memory isn't playing me false here. Hans Pizka might be able to verify this and provide other names. By the way, have you ever heard the older Max Gobermann set of Haydn symphonies (edited by Robbins-Landon) on Vanguard? Friedrich Gabler, another Viennese player, was principal on may of those stratospheric parts. Richard in Seattle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have any information on the horn players who played in the Philharmonia Hungarica during all these recordings? They range from the late 60's to early 70's. Truly amazing players. I just picked up the the set with No's 48-59. The Maria Theresia was superb. It would be nice to have a resource, perhaps a website, that lists all the Haydn symphonies and how the horns are used and in what keys they are in. There are some fascinating symphonies that are rarely playedand I can see why! Thanks Larry ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hornfella%40comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Haydn/Dorati Horn Players?
Hello - I remember seeing exactly such a website online within the past week or so. It listed all the Hadyn symphonies, by number (and name, if applicable), with the number of horns, their keys, and any especially high notes to watch out for. I can't, however, remember what the web adress is, and a quick google search and a check of my internet browser's history yielded no results either. I am almost positive it is out there, though. Ben On Mon, 3 Jul 2006 16:37:57 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be nice to have a resource, perhaps a website, that lists all the Haydn symphonies and how the horns are used and in what keys they are in. Thanks Larry ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/breidhea%40psdschools.org Benjamin Reidhead [EMAIL PROTECTED] Poudre School District, Ft. Collins, Co. No opera plot can be sensible, for people do not sing when they are feeling sensible. W. H. Auden (1907 - 1973) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Haydn/Dorati Horn Players?
Hello - I just found the web adress right after I sent the last email (naturally) Here it is: http://www.johnmacdonald.de/haydnsymphs.html Enjoy! Ben On Mon, 3 Jul 2006 16:37:57 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be nice to have a resource, perhaps a website, that lists all the Haydn symphonies and how the horns are used and in what keys they are in. There are some fascinating symphonies that are rarely playedand I can see why! Thanks Larry Benjamin Reidhead [EMAIL PROTECTED] Poudre School District, Ft. Collins, Co. No opera plot can be sensible, for people do not sing when they are feeling sensible. W. H. Auden (1907 - 1973) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Brooklyn Community Wind Ensemble
Hi, The Brooklyn Community Wind Ensemble needs a horn player for its upcoming concerts this Saturday, July 8th, at 8PM, and next Saturday, July 15th, at 8PM. The rehearsals are the Wednesday and Thursday before each concert from 7:30 - 10PM. Rehearsals and concerts are at Kingsborough Community College, in the Manhattan Beach section of Brooklyn. Unfortunately, it doesn't pay anything, but the conductor is excellent, and the quality is quite good for a community band. This would be a good opportunity for a college student looking for some sight-reading practice. If you are interested, please e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks very much, Carolyn Clark ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Haydn/Dorati Horn Players?
Hello, it is very helpful to have this list, but one thing is missing: The article should mention a permission by the IHS to reprint it, as there is a copyright also valid for John MacDonald. Just to be correct. Yes, I know that Dr.Christopher C. Leuba played the first horn in many Dorati - Haydn recordings. To perform these high symphonies, it is very wise using a high F/descant not only for the high notes but also for thesilvery light sound required for the small string ensemble. If the proper mouthpiece (deep) is used not much pressure involved, the sound should be just right similr to the then used natural horns. = -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Benjamin Reidhead Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 10:48 PM To: The Horn List Cc: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Haydn/Dorati Horn Players? Hello - I just found the web adress right after I sent the last email (naturally) Here it is: http://www.johnmacdonald.de/haydnsymphs.html Enjoy! Ben On Mon, 3 Jul 2006 16:37:57 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be nice to have a resource, perhaps a website, that lists all the Haydn symphonies and how the horns are used and in what keys they are in. There are some fascinating symphonies that are rarely playedand I can see why! Thanks Larry Benjamin Reidhead [EMAIL PROTECTED] Poudre School District, Ft. Collins, Co. No opera plot can be sensible, for people do not sing when they are feeling sensible. W. H. Auden (1907 - 1973) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
