Re: [Hornlist] The proper way?
In a message dated 12/14/2006 6:50:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is this serious?? (Excuse the double post) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lcUrFkD7es -- Definitely. This video demonstrates the basic technique Walter Lawson recommends to oil your horn. It's how I tell my customers to oil their horns, too. What interests me is that this is a PROBIRT video. (If you don't care to read about something repair related, but not necessarily horn related, then you can stop reading now.) PROBIRT was started by a NAPBIRT member (see below for meanings of acronyms) as an alternative BIRT site that utilized technology more to disseminate repair techniques and knowledge. It was supposed to be for repair techs only. I'm surprised to see a video on youtube.com. Dave Weiner Brass Arts Unlimited NAPBIRT = National Association of Band Instrument Repair Technicians. The original BIRT group. For repair techs only. Workshops are regional and national and very hands on. The idea was to disseminate repair knowledge rather than to have techs keeping their little secrets to themselves. Very structured organization, with a national headquarters in Normal, IL that houses an education center complete with workshop. PROBIRT = Professional BIRT web site. Founded within the past few years by Michelle (Mickey) Williamson to use online bulletin board forums and videos and other technology to make repair knowledge more widely and quickly available. Great idea. Not as formal an organization as NAPBIRT, but uses the technology far better. If the two groups were to merge it would be great. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Trumpet making by Robert Barclay (CA N), Richard Seraphinoff (USA) and Michael Münkwi tz (GER)
Hi all, Last year I participated in the natural trumpet making workshop in Rostock. Next year there are again two courses: One in the US and one in Europe. I think it would be great to combine this workshop with the IHS conference in Switserland. First a week of hard but very awarding work in Rostock, then some well deserved rest and then to IHS conference ! For more information on the workshop in the U.S. : www.seraphinoff.com For more information on the workshops in Europe : www. trompetenmacher.de Besides working on your own natural trompet you can talk with Rick Seraphinoff about (hand) horn playing. I can highly recommend this course. I have never worked that hard and at the same time paying for this course, but I enjoyed every second of it Natural Trumpet Making Workshops 2007 Workshops 25-JUN-2007 - 29-JUN-2007 Rostock, Germany 31-JUL-2007 - 03-AUG-2007 Bloomington, IN, USA The Robert Barclay natural trumpet making workshop, which has been held each year since 1993, in Bloomington, Indiana, and in various European locations, will be offered again during the week of July 31 - August 3, 2007 at the Hoosier Hills Career Cnter in Bloomington, Indiana an in Rostock Germanu, June 25 - 29, 2007. Under the supervision of Robert Barclay, assisted by instrument makers Richard Seraphinoff and Michael Münkwitz, participants will make a natural trumpet using the tools and methods described in Dr. Barclay's book, The Art of the Trumpet-Maker, and also illustrated and described in Making a Natural Trumpet, the new workshop guide for the course. The design which participants will make this year will be based on an original by the Nuremberg maker Hanns Hainlein (1632). Familiarity with tools and metal working techniques is desirable, but not by any means necessary. In past workshops everyone has been able to complete a playable instrument over the course of the week. Regards, Ger Otten De informatie verzonden met dit e-mailbericht is vertrouwelijk en uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u als niet-geadresseerde dit bericht ontvangt, wordt u verzocht direct de afzender hierover te informeren en het bericht te vernietigen. Gebruik van informatie door onbevoegden, openbaarmaking of vermenigvuldiging is verboden en kan leiden tot aansprakelijkheid. De afzender is niet aansprakelijk in geval van onjuiste overbrenging van het e-mailbericht en/of bij ontijdige ontvangst daarvan. The information transmitted is confidential and intended only for the person or entity to whom or which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication, please inform us immediately and destroy this communication. Unauthorised use, disclosure or copying of information is strictly prohibited and may entail liability. The sender accepts no liability for improper transmission of this communication nor for any delay in its receipt. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] The New (US) Big Five
I have always been puzzled with the consistent knock on Maazel in the U.S. The best concert I ever attended was with him conducting the Bavarian Radio Symphony on tour here in Sacramento 2 or 3 years ago...Brahms 1st Symphony, Strauss Rosenkavalier Suite, and Debussy La Mer...one of those concerts where you know the musicians and the conductor are on exactly the same wavelength. Perhaps this could not be achieved with American musicians? Fred - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 4:00:45 AM Subject: [Hornlist] The New (US) Big Five Hi List members! This statement about the best five is quite ridiculous. The writer of this article http://www.nysun.com/pf.php?id=44570 is very unfair. But a typical critic. I learned, that all critics can be interpreted just the other way round. All he says can be positiv instead of negativ. I can personally not understand his statements about Franz Welser Möst. I played with him, when he was just a young and ambitiuous conductor, Anton Bruckners 5ths Symphony, Mahlers 1st Symphony, Das Buch mit sieben Siegeln from Franz Schmidt, and can only say the best of him. Franz Welser Möst analysed these works thoroughly and knew all details of all the backgrounds. I also cannot understand the points against Mazel. I had the opportunity, to listen to a rehearsal with the Vienna Philharmonic, sitting next to the horns. Never saw such a clever and understanding conducting of such a complicated rhythmic work. (It was Till Eulenspiegel) Could it be the author of above article Fred Kirshnit is just a frustated musician, who could not play in such big and good orchestras? Liebe Gruesse/Best regards, Hans Illich Ing. Johann Illich, Ortmayrstr.37, A-4060 Leonding, Austria +43-732-995275 priv. +43-6888333895 mobil ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/fbaucom%40sbcglobal.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] The New (US) Big Five
Mach Dir nichts draus, Hans, das war immer so. Aber der Franz (s.o.) hat mich bei einer Probe zu Rosenkavalier in Zuerich gefragt (ich kam 5 min. zu spaet durch den Schneesturm im Allgaeu !): #Kennen Sie das Stueck ?# Er wusste, dass ich aus Muenchen kam. Er ist nicht schlecht, aber keine Offenbarung. Und Maazel ? Superprofessionell, aber auch superarogant. Wenn er ein Programm quasi ohne Probe machte, war er sensationell. Und Jimmy Levine ? Unter dem wuerde ich aus persoenlichen (moralischen) Gruenden nie spielen. Er ist aber ein Spitzenmusiker. Zubi ist eine Naturbegabung und kann selbst Scheisse als Gold verkaufen. Allerdings fehlt mir persoenlich der Tiefgang. Aber es ist immer eine grosse Show. Und er ist dankbar. usw.usw. Rege Dich ueber vorgefasste Meinungen nicht auf. Komm mich doch mal in Muenchen besuchen. Mein Telefon hast Du ja. Liebe Gruesse aus NE Thailand. Bin am 20. abends zurueck. Hans PS: Jetzt wars echt eine internationale Liste. Bin gespannt auf die Zensur durch unseren Listguru. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Playing a horn in tune??
On Dec 14, 2006, at 10:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: message: 1 date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 20:14:11 +0200 from: Kerri Bridges subject: [Hornlist] Playing a horn in tune?? Hi all I'm in originality a clarinetist (have been for 13 years) and had my first encounter on horn by playing mellophone in marching band for 6 years. I rarely had a tuning issue then. I'm now trying to learn the french horn. I've been playing for 3 months and seem to play quite sharp even though the tuning slide is out almost to the point of falling out.This gets worse as I go higher in the register. I try to adjust by hand position but I have the feeling that my embrouchere is the culprit here. Can anyone give me any tips for playing in tune? It's enormously frustrating and I'd appreciate any help. Thanks, Kerri Hi, Most (practically all) extreme sharp playing is caused by improper breathing and subsequent over tightening of the embouchure. I have many people who come to me with their tuning slides pulled way out. The solution has invariably been to get them to take in more air and learn to relax and support with the whole upper body. This allows one to play with less lip tension. Too much embouchure emphasis and tightness, especially in the upper register, will produce sharp, thin playing. Proper air support starts with the amount of air intake, which should be 85-90% of your vital capacity. Abdominal support is fine- if you take in enough air. Otherwise you are just pushing air instead of using the body's natural ability to expel air. Stomach pushing without adequate air in is a very bad thing. It creates tension throughout the body and cannot ever be as effective as full-breath breathing. You wouldn't sing that way, so why play that way. I know this from personal experience as well as working with students. I just put a video up on my website about using a Voldyne and the Breath Builder and how to learn to take in the right amount of air. Any of you who are interested in Jacobs' views on this should go to the Windsong Press website and checkout the videos of him teaching. Happy Holidays! Sincerely, Wendell Rider For information about my book, Real World Horn Playing, the Summer Seminar and Internet Horn Lessons go to my website: www.wendellworld.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: The proper way?
Hi again. Thanks for the responses. my concern was not with the oiling but with the technique he uses, pulling and pushing the slide without opening the valve. I've always understood that the slides should only be moved with the valves depressed - to avoid creating hihj (or low) pressure that might lead to leaky valves in the long run. I'm no expert - and I have been long enough on the list to respect those of you who have backed up the advice in the video. I guess I can relax and pull out the slides without having to think about holding the valves down at the same time. Regards, Graham ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re: The proper way?
I've been assured that the dangers of pulling slides without depressing the valves has more to do with the sanity of the teacher than with the instrument. Certainly a roomfull of kids popping slides during a rehearsal must be infuriating and any tale which stops them doing it is a winner as far as I'm concerned. If your students won't practice, tell them that the noises they make will make their pet kitten shrivel up and die - it might work! Cheers, Lawrence ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
