Re: [Hornlist] tenor

2007-01-07 Thread C.J.L. Wolf
Slightly outside the realm of music, but good old McGonagall deserves a 
mention.


http://www.mcgonagall-online.org.uk/poems/pgdisaster.htm

It has to be said, that I get more pleasure out of his poetry than I do 
most serious poets.


His acting was just as good, and every performance sold out.

Kit

On Sat, 6 Jan 2007, Steve Haflich wrote:


  From: Chris Tedesco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

  hahahaha This has to be a joke.  He might want to check the text of 
some of these arias...


Whether this alleged tenor is real and/or serious, history records
other massively delusional performers.  The classic and perhaps
best-documented example is Florence Foster Jenkins who you may read
about on the Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florence_Foster_Jenkins

FFJ's recordings used to be featured on classical music comedy shows,
but in mentioning that I've heard such things I'm showing my age.

There is one brief but stunning (in the sense of what they do to
cattle with a bolt gun in a slaughterhouse) excerpt of FFJ accessible
from the Wikipedia article, and there are additional and longer
excerpts available on Amazon.  I have held one of these original vinyl
recordings in my hands.

I have about in my long career twice encountered players who were
similarly disillusioned about their performance abilities.
Fortunately these individuals are rare.  I wish I knew how they were
created so I could get the US executive branch to concentrate their
energy at preventing future occurences, rather than sending innocent
soldiers off to die for oil.
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Re: [Hornlist] tenor

2007-01-07 Thread David Laraway
Now this has got to be a joke. I'll grant the man an impressive range, 
but the technique and musicianship are horrible. Those albums he shows 
on his discography have got to be totally fictitious.
You have to wonder how someone could work his lip up to that kind of 
range without working on basics. I suppose he could really be a better 
musician and is doing this as a joke, in which case it is rather 
impressive. It's hard to play that badly on purpose.

David Laraway

Paul Rincon wrote:

Maybe this will satisfy your hunger?

http://www.angelfire.com/ult/caquino/

Some wonderfully expressive and musical trumpet playing...listen for
yourself! The Hummel is especially tasty, as is the Peer Gynt.

Enjoy!

Paul Rincon



On 1/7/07, rob schmidtke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I want more more more. I love FFJ her voice is so .. 
diffused.   I
remember hearing a trumpet player doing a similar bang  up job on the 
Hummel
concerto. Dare I ask if there are any equally gifted Horn players out 
there.

Plaese post links if you have them.
Rob Schmidtke

Klaus Bjerre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
--- hans  wrote:

> Go & visit the following site to get your surprise:
> www.tenor.dk
>
> There are a lot folks out  - without any self critic.

This is sad!

Even more so as this guy is born in and lives in the town, where I lived,
when we moved back to
Denmark in 1958. I lived there until I took, what the Germans call 
Arbitur

in 1966.

My very old father still lives there in the same house. He has 
organised a

lot of concerts over
the years, but it is too late night right now to phone him and ask him
about this impostor.

This guy must be around my age, but I never heard of him, even if we were
in the same town at the
same time. And even if I was in the best of two bands and in the only
(small) orchestra. The town
of Holbæk was rather small back then, which is no longer the case, as it
has developed into a
housing area for Copenhagen.

In 1990-91 I returned as 4th horn in a really large musical project. That
man certainly was not
asked to sing there.

Holbæk used to be the home of another impostor, which is far more
dangerous, because he is our
minister of culture. Sadly sports belong to that department, and that is
the only part of his
portfolio, which that man has any idea about.

Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre


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[Hornlist] Re: Tenor

2007-01-07 Thread HORNTRASH
Now, I had the mostestest of LOVINGS for this voice as it is what I haver  
always tried to do when I am SINGING on my HORN(S), just like our  teachers 
make 
the tellings to all of us to do, so, now, since he has  made the beggings of 
money and bookings, I sent him my lottery winnings and  called my old pal, Sol 
Hamhock, who runs the famous  booking agency in NY, New York, So Called 
Artists and Musicians (SCAM)  which handles most of the symphony conductors 
these 
days, AND, I am  mostestest of happiestestests to be making the announcements 
of the IGGY und OLE  WORLD TOUR, featuring the repertoires you all love, 
including the BRITTEN  SERENADE, AUF DEM STROM, the newly discovered version of 
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I-prac-tice-so-los-ex-cerpts-and-I-al-ways-crack,   
I-want-to-play-the-horn-like-Den-nis-Brain,  
but-I-don't-want-to-suf-fer-any-prac-tice-pain.) and other soon to 
be  favorites like my arrangements of Broadway Hits, Beatles Tunes and HOUND  
DOG for the above mentioned combination, so please, pretty please, pretty  
please with valve oil on it, send me your frequent flyer miles (so we don't 
have  
to take the bus) and saved up Motel 6, Perkins, White Tower and  Applebees 
coupons so Ole and I can make this tour and be coming to your town  soon!!!
 
Kindestestest of Greetonings and Mostestestestest of Gratulations,
 
Prof. I. M.  Gestopftmitscheist
Principal 8th horn and Principal  4th Wagner Tuber,  Schplittenotendorf am 
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Re: [Hornlist] tenor

2007-01-07 Thread Paul Rincon

Maybe this will satisfy your hunger?

http://www.angelfire.com/ult/caquino/

Some wonderfully expressive and musical trumpet playing...listen for
yourself! The Hummel is especially tasty, as is the Peer Gynt.

Enjoy!

Paul Rincon



On 1/7/07, rob schmidtke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I want more more more. I love FFJ her voice is so .. diffused.   I
remember hearing a trumpet player doing a similar bang  up job on the Hummel
concerto. Dare I ask if there are any equally gifted Horn players out there.
Plaese post links if you have them.
Rob Schmidtke

Klaus Bjerre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
--- hans  wrote:

> Go & visit the following site to get your surprise:
> www.tenor.dk
>
> There are a lot folks out  - without any self critic.

This is sad!

Even more so as this guy is born in and lives in the town, where I lived,
when we moved back to
Denmark in 1958. I lived there until I took, what the Germans call Arbitur
in 1966.

My very old father still lives there in the same house. He has organised a
lot of concerts over
the years, but it is too late night right now to phone him and ask him
about this impostor.

This guy must be around my age, but I never heard of him, even if we were
in the same town at the
same time. And even if I was in the best of two bands and in the only
(small) orchestra. The town
of Holbæk was rather small back then, which is no longer the case, as it
has developed into a
housing area for Copenhagen.

In 1990-91 I returned as 4th horn in a really large musical project. That
man certainly was not
asked to sing there.

Holbæk used to be the home of another impostor, which is far more
dangerous, because he is our
minister of culture. Sadly sports belong to that department, and that is
the only part of his
portfolio, which that man has any idea about.

Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre


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Re: [Hornlist] tenor

2007-01-07 Thread rob schmidtke
I want more more more. I love FFJ her voice is so .. diffused.   I 
remember hearing a trumpet player doing a similar bang  up job on the Hummel 
concerto. Dare I ask if there are any equally gifted Horn players out there. 
Plaese post links if you have them.
Rob Schmidtke

Klaus Bjerre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
--- hans  wrote:

> Go & visit the following site to get your surprise:
> www.tenor.dk
> 
> There are a lot folks out  - without any self critic.

This is sad!

Even more so as this guy is born in and lives in the town, where I lived, when 
we moved back to
Denmark in 1958. I lived there until I took, what the Germans call Arbitur in 
1966. 

My very old father still lives there in the same house. He has organised a lot 
of concerts over
the years, but it is too late night right now to phone him and ask him about 
this impostor.

This guy must be around my age, but I never heard of him, even if we were in 
the same town at the
same time. And even if I was in the best of two bands and in the only (small) 
orchestra. The town
of Holbæk was rather small back then, which is no longer the case, as it has 
developed into a
housing area for Copenhagen.

In 1990-91 I returned as 4th horn in a really large musical project. That man 
certainly was not
asked to sing there.

Holbæk used to be the home of another impostor, which is far more dangerous, 
because he is our
minister of culture. Sadly sports belong to that department, and that is the 
only part of his
portfolio, which that man has any idea about.

Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre

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[Hornlist] Re:Tenor and Florence Foster Jenkins

2007-01-07 Thread Heather Binde
For those of you hungry for more, Florence Foster Jenkins appears to have her 
own MySpace page, with more sound samples:  
www.myspace.com/florencefosterjenkins

 Enjoy!


Heather Binde
Augusta, GA




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Re: [Hornlist] tenor

2007-01-07 Thread Kjellrun Hestekin

Hmmm,

Scrolling down on his page I noticed a line "Buy Property in Spain" - 
maybe a hint as to how seriously he should be taken ... maybe sings 
well for a real estate agent (or scam artist???)???


Kjellrun


On 6-Jan-07, at 5:14 PM, hans wrote:


Go & visit the following site to get your surprise:
www.tenor.dk

There are a lot folks out  - without any self critic.

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Kjellrun K. Hestekin
School of Music 
Memorial University
St. John's, NL
Canada   A1C 5S7
ph: (709) 737 - 8466
fax 709 737 2666
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: [Hornlist] Corno da caccia

2007-01-07 Thread hans
Yes, off course. Alzheimer ??

 

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Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Corno da caccia

Do you mean Ludwig Guettler Hans ?
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Re: [Hornlist] tenor

2007-01-07 Thread Klaus Bjerre

--- Sven Bring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I find it hard to beleive that this is anything but a joke, and a rather good 
> one at that.
> 
> Sven

I think this guy goes for it without hesitation. He has been through a severe 
car-crash, which I
think made him loose his perspective, if he ever had one.

The Danish Yellow Pages confirm, that his name and address are consistent with 
his phone number.

My father never knew about this guy, even if my father was a voluntary church 
concert manager in
Holbæk. But my father at once recognised the name of the piano player. She may 
not be among us any
more. My father remembers her as a little grey-haired lady, so she likely was 
older than my
father, who was born in 1917. She must have been quite old at the year of the 
recording, 2001.

If my memory does not cheat on me, I never met her, but I remember her being 
one of the three
klaverdamer (= pianoladies), who taught the kids in Holbæk back in my teens. My 
reference person
for that works in Brazil, and we have not met for 30 years. The other reference 
persons are long
gone.

The wannabe singer becomes pathetic, when he asks for international 
sponsorships to support his
career. He cites a bank account number, which does not even work within 
Denmark, because it has
the wrong number of ciphers.

Opposite to some other list members, I have not listened to all of the tracks. 
My ears refuse to
do so. 

But I am happy about one personal decision done 6+ years ago. When I no longer 
were significantly
better than my former students, then I stopped playing in public.

Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre

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Re: [Hornlist] tenor

2007-01-07 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
In fact, it sounds as though the voice part has been slowed down (LP style  
so lowering the pitch)  Maybe played back at the right speed it would sound  
better.
 
Cheers,
 
Lawrence
 
lawrenceyates.co.uk
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Re: [Hornlist] tenor

2007-01-07 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
 
 
In a message dated 07/01/2007 10:11:11 GMT Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I find  it hard to beleive that this is anything but a joke, and a rather 
good one at  that.


I'm sorry, I know "singers" who are very nearly as skilled as  this who are 
very proud of their achievements. The sad thing is that they are  often invited 
to sing at church services and the like by those who can't  tell.  This 
reinforces their confidence and self esteem.
 
Having said that, I've just got up to "Nessun Dorma" - maybe you're  right.
 
All the best,
 
Lawrence
lawrenceyates.co.uk
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[Hornlist] tenor

2007-01-07 Thread Sven Bring
I find it hard to beleive that this is anything but a joke, and a rather good 
one at that.

Sven
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Re: [Hornlist] tenor

2007-01-07 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
Ah Hans - when I sent my first reply I didn't realise that one could  
actually listen to this guy - I thought it was a joke site you'd set up.
 
Now I've listened to him - now I understand!
 
Cheers,
 
Lawrence
 
lawrenceyates.co.uk
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RE: [Hornlist] Corno da caccia

2007-01-07 Thread Adrian Hitchborn

Do you mean Ludwig Guettler Hans ?
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RE: [Hornlist] tenor

2007-01-07 Thread Klaus Bjerre

--- hans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Did you mean "abitur" ?? Means "Abgang" in German, Abgang
> from School, leaveing school. In Austria it is called
> "Matura" or Maturity, but it is anything else than maturity,
> but it is meant as "maturity to go to university".
> 

Of course I meant Abitur. Studentereksamen in Danish, which also means an examn 
qualifying for
further studies.

But it isn’t really so any more, and regarding some studies and some attractive 
colleges it even
back in my days was so, that one had to have a high average score. Mine allowed 
me to study where
I wanted. It even allowed me to study musicology after my rather early 
retirement. That was great
fun to dig down in the toolboxes of Bach and Schönberg among others.

About the self-alleged singer: He maintains to have studied 6 years at a 
private school in
Copenhagen. I tried to trace that school. It does not exist any more. The 
person who had given his
name to that school, was a Finnish singer and pedagogue, who was born in 1880. 
The present singer
was born some time around 1950. Some people teach into a very ripe age, but I 
still smell a rat.

For those reading Danish the page holds a copy of an ad, where the singer asks 
for a good pianist,
who will get the chance to boost his/hers career. 

The sad thing is, that in some contexts people get away with making music at 
this level. In some
social circles music is not something to love and to understand. It only is 
there for snobbish
reasons.

The most relevant word is “sad”.

Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre

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