[Hornlist] Trills and some good tongue action.
If one thinks they are doing nothing with the tongue, that is most likely a good thing, but one would be very mistaken. The mechanics of the horn (and being able to explain them) are just as important as pages and pages of analogies those analogies are great for many studentsI suprise myself with the new ones I come up with everyday. Be careful with tricks, magic, smokesceens and snake oil Matthew Scheffelman It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] low horn solo
I found these dauprat concertos at the rochester library page: http://groucho.lib.rochester.edu/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?v1=12&ti=1,12&Search%5FArg=horn%20concerto&Search%5FCode=FT%2A&CNT=50&PID=4055&SEQ=20070112233542&SID=4 I couldn't find anywhere to buy them but it looks like the sibley library has a scanning services for rare scores like this: http://www.esm.rochester.edu/sibley/?page=request I'd certainly be interested to look at it. They already have some old dauprat etudes scanned: https://urresearch.rochester.edu/handle/1802/967 Pretty neat! -Jay ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Low Horn Solo
The Verne Reynolds 48 Etudes includes some very nice bass clef solos. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Stiff lips
I had a similar problem with the new Blistex Lip Infusion. I suspect the chemicals they use were originally used to give old, floppy leather lots of body. Since it is absorbed into the lips, it takes a long time before playing sensitivity returns. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 7:56 AM Subject: [Hornlist] Stiff lips Hi all! Almost everything was said in this matter. But let me tell what happened to me a few years ago. I had a problem similar as described by Ron. The lips were just stiff, didn't vibrate at all. They were like paralized. I coud not buzz without the mouthpiece. Before a concert I had to do a lot of warmup and after a little break it was stiff again. Until I found the reason. I have had a blister on my lip some time before, which happens very rarely to me. So I tried a natural medicine. I put "Propolis", some kind of stuff which bees produce to keep their homes clean. You get it in shops where they sell honey, beewax, etc. Maybe it was just the alcohol in this propolis or propolis itself, I don't know. I found out about it because I tried to put it on my lips later on, and bang, the stiff lip problem was there again. This is a good medicine when used in small doses with lot of water, but never put it on the lips as it is. So just think about what you have done before you got the stiff lips. It must not necessarily be overdoing the lips. It can be a chemical reason. Best wishes to you and hope you find out what it was. Liebe Gruesse/Best regards, Hans Illich Ing. Johann Illich, Ortmayrstr.37, A-4060 Leonding, Austria +43-732-995275 priv. +43-6888333895 mobil ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/billbamberg%40aol.com Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Lip Trills
On Jan 12, 2007, at 10:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: message: 1 date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 20:22:22 EST from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] subject: Re: [Hornlist] Stopped-Trills-Stumped Matthew, What are you doing with your tongue on a lip trill? Ron Hi, I know some people are gong to reply with things they do with their tongues for lip trills, but I don't do anything with mine and i don't teach it. All of my high school students can lip trill, by the way. There is a trick to it, which i have explained before. Unfortunately, i don't have time to go into it now, I'm leaving for the Santa barbara horn weekend. Sincerely, Wendell Rider For information about my book, "Real World Horn Playing", the Summer Seminar and Internet Horn Lessons go to my website: www.wendellworld.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Stiff lips
Hi all! Almost everything was said in this matter. But let me tell what happened to me a few years ago. I had a problem similar as described by Ron. The lips were just stiff, didn't vibrate at all. They were like paralized. I coud not buzz without the mouthpiece. Before a concert I had to do a lot of warmup and after a little break it was stiff again. Until I found the reason. I have had a blister on my lip some time before, which happens very rarely to me. So I tried a natural medicine. I put "Propolis", some kind of stuff which bees produce to keep their homes clean. You get it in shops where they sell honey, beewax, etc. Maybe it was just the alcohol in this propolis or propolis itself, I don't know. I found out about it because I tried to put it on my lips later on, and bang, the stiff lip problem was there again. This is a good medicine when used in small doses with lot of water, but never put it on the lips as it is. So just think about what you have done before you got the stiff lips. It must not necessarily be overdoing the lips. It can be a chemical reason. Best wishes to you and hope you find out what it was. Liebe Gruesse/Best regards, Hans Illich Ing. Johann Illich, Ortmayrstr.37, A-4060 Leonding, Austria +43-732-995275 priv. +43-6888333895 mobil ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re capturing the Beast
Just a comment on a super example of the finest all around horn playing."Deep Remembering" the CD is for anyone trying to recapture the excitement of hearing and playing the horn.It did it for me! Thank you Gail,in case you're listening. Steve Maniscola-former student of the guys from the N.Y.Phil .,'64 section. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Re: Stiff Lips
The best therapy for those who suffer of stiff lips resulting from excessive high playing Is going back to the source: All the high register must be acquired step by step in a lengthy process. And - the depper you can go in the bass region, the higher you might climb up into the stratosphere. But all slowly, very slowly, step by step. O.k., if one is not exposed to daily professional playing, this person might suffer if there is a harder gig (e.g. ballet music) of a few days. This happen to many players who mainly teach only. It also happens to many amateur players if they are exposed to excessive playing within a certain short period of few days, special again if they play music to which they are exposed rarely (Bach, Haendel, Wagner, Strauss, Tchaikovsky ballet, etc.). What is the source for their stiffness ? Not the missing warm-down exercises, no, even they are useful, but inadequate preparation during their horn study, by skipping (old fashion) necessary steps. Yes, Alon, I agree, open throat is most important for relaxed playing. If pressure, only the "necessary" pressure to seal mouthpiecerim with the lips, BUT NEVER PRESSURE to get the high notes out. NO TOGETHER PRESSURE of the lips, squeezing any lip opening to near zero. This false technique consumes too much energy. Also trying compensating the lack of overtones with more air (energy) when playing the Bb-side excessively, will result in very stiff lips. It can be heard in the sound (zssscccrscscscschhh). It becomes all worse on the high F descant. To all with the stiff lip problem: Reduce your ambition, play relaxed (mentally relaxed also, but concentrated), Play a wider bore mouthpiece, a thin rim (prevents pressure as it would hurt), Play on the F-side where you can be responsible. = -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alon reuven Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 9:38 AM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Re: Stiff Lips I believe that one of the most relaxing exercise to do is just to play low long notes from G right under the stuff and down to pedal C , in pianissimo.While playing , keep your throat open and play through your vocal cords - the air should be " static " , or , should I say , do not blow through the instrument , Just imagine that you are a Bass singer . Watch for the beginnings of the notes - they do point out how open your throat is . As for further advice of how not to get stiff lips - every practice session which includes a massive or very high playing , should be done in intervals , and you really have to clear some time for it . A five minutes practice sequence can destroy you , if you would not take the break you need (some times the time of practice is equal to relaxation time!!) you may destroy yourself . There are some good sources regarding this issue :The book "Broken embouchure " by Lucinda Lewis" and some heavy routine exercises (the most of them DO require intervals) - my favorite is Josef Singers . take care - Alon ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Hoyer historics
Does anyone know an Internet source for old Hans Hoyer model and/or serial numbers? Sven ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Parabol no.five
Sorry, I was wrong. If it is the horn parable you want, it is no. VIII, and Robert King has it. Parable no.V is for carillon, and is easy to find by Googling for other sources. Sven - Original Message From: Alon reuven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 9:41:33 AM Subject: [Hornlist] Parabol no.five Hi all I am trying to find a piece named "Parabol number 5" by william persichetti. Does anyone knows where can I get the sheet music? Thanks, Alon ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/sven.bring%40glocalnet.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.9/623 - Release Date: 2007-01-11 15:33 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Hoyer historics
Does anyone know an Internet source for old Hans Hoyer model and/or serial numbers? Sven ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Parabol no.five
It's Vincent and Parable. Robert King has it. Sven - Original Message From: Alon reuven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 9:41:33 AM Subject: [Hornlist] Parabol no.five Hi all I am trying to find a piece named "Parabol number 5" by william persichetti. Does anyone knows where can I get the sheet music? Thanks, Alon ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/sven.bring%40glocalnet.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.9/623 - Release Date: 2007-01-11 15:33 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Parabol no.five
Hi all I am trying to find a piece named "Parabol number 5" by william persichetti. Does anyone knows where can I get the sheet music? Thanks, Alon ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Stiff Lips
I believe that one of the most relaxing exercise to do is just to play low long notes from G right under the stuff and down to pedal C , in pianissimo.While playing , keep your throat open and play through your vocal cords - the air should be " static " , or , should I say , do not blow through the instrument , Just imagine that you are a Bass singer . Watch for the beginnings of the notes - they do point out how open your throat is . As for further advice of how not to get stiff lips - every practice session which includes a massive or very high playing , should be done in intervals , and you really have to clear some time for it . A five minutes practice sequence can destroy you , if you would not take the break you need (some times the time of practice is equal to relaxation time!!) you may destroy yourself . There are some good sources regarding this issue :The book "Broken embouchure " by Lucinda Lewis" and some heavy routine exercises (the most of them DO require intervals) - my favorite is Josef Singers . take care - Alon ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
