[Hornlist] Custom slide for 70's Alex

2007-08-15 Thread John Dutton
When I raised the issue with my repair person, he said he would want to use
parts from Alexander and that, since these weren't parts he stocked
normally, I might as well have them make the entire thing.  I don't know
what is unique or not here and whether sound, appearance, or both are at
issue.

-S- 


Steve, go see Randy Ulmer in Joysey.  Email me offlist if you need the
contact info.  He would be able to fabricate the slide you want.  Alex
tubing is 12mm and standard US tubing is 11.89mm.  The proper tubing can be
purchased here in the US but not many shops have it on the shelf.

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RE: [Hornlist] Custom slide for 70's Alex

2007-08-15 Thread Steve Freides
 -Original Message-
 From: John Dutton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 2:36 AM
 To: horn@music.memphis.edu
 Subject: [Hornlist] Custom slide for 70's Alex
 
 When I raised the issue with my repair person, he said he 
 would want to use parts from Alexander and that, since these 
 weren't parts he stocked normally, I might as well have them 
 make the entire thing.  I don't know what is unique or not 
 here and whether sound, appearance, or both are at issue.
 
 -S-
 
 
 Steve, go see Randy Ulmer in Joysey.  Email me offlist if you 
 need the contact info.  He would be able to fabricate the 
 slide you want.  Alex tubing is 12mm and standard US tubing 
 is 11.89mm.  The proper tubing can be purchased here in the 
 US but not many shops have it on the shelf.
 
 The Jack Attack!

Jack, Randy _is_ my repair person.  Getting it from Alexander was his idea.

-S-

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[Hornlist] Horn Quartet Album

2007-08-15 Thread Dennis Herrick
I just bought a horn quartet album on ebay. Members of the Chicago
Symphony. It's got Christopher Lauba, Paul Binstock, Wayne Barrington,
Robert Wirth and Frank Brouk (presently solo horn)

No date. Anyone know when this was the horn section?

A closer reading of the back seems to indicate that the are not all members
of CSO. Lauba was Professor of Music in Puerto Rico, Wirth has played in
Minneapolis six seasons; Binstock teaches music in Roseville Minnesota.
Maybe only Barrington and Brouk are CSO?

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Re: [Hornlist] Horn Quartet Album

2007-08-15 Thread Debbie Schmidt

The CSO had a wonderful site that includes former members.

Debbie Schmidt Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 15, 2007, at 10:38 AM, Dennis Herrick  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I just bought a horn quartet album on ebay. Members of the Chicago
Symphony. It's got Christopher Lauba, Paul Binstock, Wayne  
Barrington,

Robert Wirth and Frank Brouk (presently solo horn)

No date. Anyone know when this was the horn section?

A closer reading of the back seems to indicate that the are not all  
members
of CSO. Lauba was Professor of Music in Puerto Rico, Wirth has  
played in
Minneapolis six seasons; Binstock teaches music in Roseville  
Minnesota.

Maybe only Barrington and Brouk are CSO?

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[Hornlist] Horn Quartet Album

2007-08-15 Thread John Dutton
On Aug 15, 2007, at 10:38 AM, Dennis Herrick  
herrickd at huntingdon.edu wrote:

 I just bought a horn quartet album on ebay. Members of the Chicago
 Symphony. It's got Christopher Lauba, Paul Binstock, Wayne  
 Barrington,
 Robert Wirth and Frank Brouk (presently solo horn)

 No date. Anyone know when this was the horn section?

 A closer reading of the back seems to indicate that the are not all  
 members
 of CSO. Lauba was Professor of Music in Puerto Rico, Wirth has  
 played in
 Minneapolis six seasons; Binstock teaches music in Roseville  
 Minnesota.
 Maybe only Barrington and Brouk are CSO?
--

Chris Leuba (correct spelling) was principal after Farkas retired but before
Clevenger (1966-) so say first couple of years of 1960's.  It was quite
common for musicians to hop orchestras after only a few seasons so Binstock
and Wirth might very well have been section mates for a time.  Probably the
only definitive knowledge is possessed by Stormin' Norman Schweikert though
there are list members who were in Chicago at the time.

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[Hornlist] Custom slide for 70's Alex

2007-08-15 Thread John Dutton
Jack, Randy _is_ my repair person.  Getting it from Alexander was his idea.

-S-
---

Oops, sorry.  One place I get tubing from is MK Drawing but that would take
time too.  My contact at Alexander is Reimund Pankratz. They don't ever
reply instantly but my experiences have been satisfactory.  I have waited a
week for a reply.  They have made me auxiliary a/e slides for a 103 and
otherwise always been helpful.  If your German is good enough you might call
directly.
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rhein. Musikinstrumentenfabrik GmbH
Bahnhofstr. 9, D-55116 Mainz
Germany
+49- (0) 6131-288080
+49- (0) 6131-224248 (fax)



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Re: [Hornlist] Horn Quartet Album

2007-08-15 Thread Debbie Schmidt

All of his research is part of the CSO site.

Debbie Schmidt Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 15, 2007, at 11:19 AM, John Dutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Aug 15, 2007, at 10:38 AM, Dennis Herrick
herrickd at huntingdon.edu wrote:


I just bought a horn quartet album on ebay. Members of the Chicago
Symphony. It's got Christopher Lauba, Paul Binstock, Wayne
Barrington,
Robert Wirth and Frank Brouk (presently solo horn)

No date. Anyone know when this was the horn section?

A closer reading of the back seems to indicate that the are not all
members
of CSO. Lauba was Professor of Music in Puerto Rico, Wirth has
played in
Minneapolis six seasons; Binstock teaches music in Roseville
Minnesota.
Maybe only Barrington and Brouk are CSO?

--

Chris Leuba (correct spelling) was principal after Farkas retired  
but before
Clevenger (1966-) so say first couple of years of 1960's.  It was  
quite
common for musicians to hop orchestras after only a few seasons so  
Binstock
and Wirth might very well have been section mates for a time.   
Probably the
only definitive knowledge is possessed by Stormin' Norman Schweikert  
though

there are list members who were in Chicago at the time.

The Jack Attack!

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RE: [Hornlist] Horn Quartet Album

2007-08-15 Thread Dennis Herrick
 
 The CSO had a wonderful site that includes former members.

Thanks for the info. I've been to their site but never looked at former
members.

Lauba was '60-'62
Barrington '54-'64
Brouk '62-'63 and '65-'66
Binstock and Wirth not listed

So my guess would be early '60's for this recording.

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Re: [Hornlist] Custom slide for 70's Alex

2007-08-15 Thread Jerryold99
 
In a message dated 8/15/2007 10:30:57 AM Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

If your  German is good enough you might  call
directly.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Bahnhofstr. 9, D-55116  Mainz
Germany
+49- (0) 6131-288080
+49- (0) 6131-224248  (fax)




Hi,
 
Ask for Philipp Alexander, Managing Director and 
part of the family.  His English is excellent 
and he has always been approachable and very 
helpful.
 
Regards, Jerry in Kansas  City



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[Hornlist] Horn Quartet Album

2007-08-15 Thread John Dutton
[Q]
Thanks for the info. I've been to their site but never looked at former
members.

Lauba (sic) was '60-'62
Barrington '54-'64
Brouk '62-'63 and '65-'66
Binstock and Wirth not listed

So my guess would be early '60's for this recording. [/Q]


Frank Brouk was principal for those years but was in the orchestra from
1961-78.  And again it is _Leuba_ and not Lauba.  Chris is still alive and
kicking in the Seattle/Portland area.  Might as well spell his name
correctly.

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[Hornlist] Horn Quartet Album

2007-08-15 Thread John Dutton
[Q]
Thanks for the info. I've been to their site but never looked at former
members.

Lauba (sic) was '60-'62
Barrington '54-'64
Brouk '62-'63 and '65-'66
Binstock and Wirth not listed

So my guess would be early '60's for this recording. [/Q]


Frank Brouk was principal for those years but was in the orchestra from
1961-78.  And again it is _Leuba_ and not Lauba.  Chris is still alive and
kicking in the Seattle/Portland area.  Might as well spell his name
correctly.

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Re: [Hornlist] Horn Quartet Album

2007-08-15 Thread Dan

John Dutton wrote:

Chris is still alive and
kicking in the Seattle/Portland area.


And, I might add, was in attendance last month at the IHS Symposium in 
Switzerland, where he and Jerome Ashby were named as new Honorary Members.


Dan
--

Dan Phillips
Associate Professor
Rudi E. Scheidt School of Music
University of Memphis
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
901-678-3781

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[Hornlist] Stop horn....

2007-08-15 Thread HornCabbage
Larry wrote:

There's not a mute out there that can transpose a single note!  I don't
understand why there is all this hypothetical conjecture on the list about
what mutes can do.

And Valerie answered

No, Larry, you're wrong.  Haven't you seen the U-tube video of the stone
lined straight mute dancing  whistling Dixie?  


I missed this one, Valerie.   But next week I will post a droll video of 
my tuning slide, allowing you to watch an actual U-tube on U-tube.

Gotta go,
Cabbage


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RE: [Hornlist] Horn Quartet Album

2007-08-15 Thread Dennis Herrick
The back of the record jacket very clearly says Lauba... Different guy? 

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 ] On Behalf Of John Dutton
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 Subject: [Hornlist] Horn Quartet Album
 
 [Q]
 Thanks for the info. I've been to their site but never looked 
 at former members.
 
 Lauba (sic) was '60-'62
 Barrington '54-'64
 Brouk '62-'63 and '65-'66
 Binstock and Wirth not listed
 
 So my guess would be early '60's for this recording. [/Q]
 
 
 Frank Brouk was principal for those years but was in the 
 orchestra from 1961-78.  And again it is _Leuba_ and not 
 Lauba.  Chris is still alive and kicking in the 
 Seattle/Portland area.  Might as well spell his name correctly.
 
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[Hornlist] Horn Quartet Album

2007-08-15 Thread John Dutton
[Q]
The back of the record jacket very clearly says Lauba... Different guy? [/Q]


Clearly a misprint.  Very common in liner notes actually.  Even word
processor processed pedantic prose can be jacked up by a spell
checkerand none existed when those liner notes were created.

As an interesting aside, Paul Binstock was one of Kavalovski's teachers at U
of Minnesota.

Principal Horns of CSO:
Dutschke (1891-1895)
Ketz (1895-1896)
De Mare, L (1896-1922)
Hoss, W (22-23)
Frank, W (23-27)
?
Farkas (36-41)
Helen Kotas (41-47)
Farkas (48-60)
Leuba (60-62)
Brouk (62-63)
Van Norman (63-65)
Brouk (65-66)
Clevenger (66-)


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Re: [Hornlist] Horn Quartet Album

2007-08-15 Thread sotone
Just a misprint.
Steve Ovitsky

 [Q]
 The back of the record jacket very clearly says Lauba... Different 
 guy? [/Q]

 
 Clearly a misprint.  Very common in liner notes actually.  Even word
 processor processed pedantic prose can be jacked up by a spell
 checkerand none existed when those liner notes were created.
 
 As an interesting aside, Paul Binstock was one of Kavalovski's 
 teachers at U of Minnesota.
 
 Principal Horns of CSO:
 Dutschke (1891-1895)
 Ketz (1895-1896)
 De Mare, L (1896-1922)
 Hoss, W (22-23)
 Frank, W (23-27)
 ?
 Farkas (36-41)
 Helen Kotas (41-47)
 Farkas (48-60)
 Leuba (60-62)
 Brouk (62-63)
 Van Norman (63-65)
 Brouk (65-66)
 Clevenger (66-)
 
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[Hornlist] Hindemith Horn Concerto (1949) , Question, OOPS....

2007-08-15 Thread matthew scheffelman
Answered my own questionremembered it wrongit
is a dotted quarter rest!!so the triplet 16th is
right. I had learned it back when I very first started
playing horn (in high school), and I learned it wrong.

My apologizes to Dennisand anyone else.

Matthew


   

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[Hornlist] Hindemith Horn Concerto (1949) , Question

2007-08-15 Thread matthew scheffelman
On the Dennis Brain recording of the Hindemith
Concerto ( Philharmonia, Sawallisch),  first movement
, last measure, Dennis plays a 16th triplet, while my
piano score and part has straight 16ths printed.

Anything I am missing from the main score? I will see
the full score in a couple of months, but I was
wondering if this was either an oversight on Dennis's
part, or a misprint. It sounds great with the triplet,
I even might do it no matter what, but I was curious
to hear anyone with some facts.

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[Hornlist] Kuhn Triple

2007-08-15 Thread Luke Zyla
Does anyone own or played a Kuhn Triple Horn?  How do they compare with the 
Paxman, Alex, and Schmid triples?
CORdially,
Luke Zyla
2nd horn, WV Symphony Orchestra
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[Hornlist] pronunciation of Yancich

2007-08-15 Thread Mark Syslo
I am proud to use Mr. Yancich's books with my private students.  They are
very well done.

I commonly refer to all of my private students' books by the author, but I
suspect I'm messing up Mr. Yancich's name.

Pronounced Yan sich, or Yan chich?


MJS
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Re: [Hornlist] Horn Quartet Album

2007-08-15 Thread Paul Mansur

No, it is not a different guy; it's just a typo misspelling of his name.

Paul Mansur

On Aug 15, 2007, at 3:28 PM, Dennis Herrick wrote:

The back of the record jacket very clearly says Lauba... Different  
guy?



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Subject: [Hornlist] Horn Quartet Album

[Q]
Thanks for the info. I've been to their site but never looked
at former members.

Lauba (sic) was '60-'62
Barrington '54-'64
Brouk '62-'63 and '65-'66
Binstock and Wirth not listed

So my guess would be early '60's for this recording. [/Q]


Frank Brouk was principal for those years but was in the
orchestra from 1961-78.  And again it is _Leuba_ and not
Lauba.  Chris is still alive and kicking in the
Seattle/Portland area.  Might as well spell his name correctly.

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RE: [Hornlist] Kuhn Triple

2007-08-15 Thread Jeremy Cucco
I recently tried Jerome Ashby's old Kuhn 393 and absolutely loved it.  I
can't compare it to any of the instruments you mentioned as I haven't
played on the Schmid and the Alex and Paxman haven't touched my lips in
over a decade.

The Kuhn had a different sound and feel than any Geyer-based wrap (I
know...kind of hard to do a Geyer with a triple, but you get my point)
instrument I've ever tried.  While it was light for a triple, I wouldn't
classify it as a lightweight horn.  As for the sound, it was very
substantial - more than I expected.  I play a Lawson Fourier normally
and I didn't give up much in the way of sheer power trying the triple.

Ultimately, the ONLY reason I didn't buy it was simply because I don't
see myself needing the triple (I played on a Yamaha triple for a couple
of years and never really used the High F side for anything but novelty
and the F# entrance in the Nutcracker) and the mass involved and the new
hand arrangement wasn't worth it to me.  

I'm VERY seriously considering a new Kuhn 293 right now based on my
positive recent experiences with the Kuhn triple though.

Cheers - 

Jeremy

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[Hornlist] Yamaha Triple

2007-08-15 Thread Luke Zyla
Has anyone played a Yamaha Triple?  What do you think?
Luke Zyla
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RE: [Hornlist] Horn Quartet Album

2007-08-15 Thread sheldon kirshner

Never, I think.  Leuba was principal with the CSO for a couple of seasons,
under Reiner I believe; Brouk, who had an absolutely gorgeous sound, took
over principal for a season or two, from the section, but didn't seek it,
Wayne Barrington played 3rd, I believe, for some time--he played, to my
recollection, a Conn 28D--the second horn through all of this was Wedgewood,
who is not listed.

Shel

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Subject: [Hornlist] Horn Quartet Album

I just bought a horn quartet album on ebay. Members of the Chicago
Symphony. It's got Christopher Lauba, Paul Binstock, Wayne Barrington,
Robert Wirth and Frank Brouk (presently solo horn)

No date. Anyone know when this was the horn section?

A closer reading of the back seems to indicate that the are not all members
of CSO. Lauba was Professor of Music in Puerto Rico, Wirth has played in
Minneapolis six seasons; Binstock teaches music in Roseville Minnesota.
Maybe only Barrington and Brouk are CSO?

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