Re: [Hornlist] Braces
In addition to piano, dance, voice and music theory lessons (which I heartily recommend) I would like to respectfully posit the following: After teaching many horn students of all levels (with the occasional trumpet, trombone and tuba player thrown in for good measure), with and without braces I noticed a few things. 1. Some students crash and stay crashed for the entire time (mostly trumpet and horn). 2. Some students take little to no time to adjust (mostly low brass with a few trumpet exceptions). What I have noticed is that the students that have a mouthpiece that contacts a bracket in any way have a harder time adjusting. The trumpet players that did not crash all used mouthpieces with a 17.5 mm - 18.00 mm grip (Bach 1 1/2 C to Bach 1). As an experiment, I measured the bracket distance on my next 3 trumpets that got braces and "prescribed" them a mouthpiece large enough to enclose the brackets. After the brief mouthpiece change adjustment, their sound, range, and stamina all came back and remained for the duration of the braces. My horn students, unfortunately, have proven more difficult to work with. Many of the players use a mouthpiece between 16.9 mm and 17.15 mm. I show them pictures and recordings of world famous horn soloists (and high horn players) that use mouthpieces that range from 17.75 to 18.5 mm but many of them are not brave enough (or are pressured by their band directors to use the same mouthpiece famous player X used) to switch and suffer with problems until the braces come off; then they suffer from the bad habits that they developed while the braces were on. Obviously, this is not a scientific study, but worth noting that somewhere, someone has had some (modest) success helping young brass players adjust to what almost seem to have become a fact of life: Braces. Respectfully Submitted, Scott Young From: Susan Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I second Aleks' suggestion and would suggest other alternatives such as: Voice lessons Ballet lessons Music theory lessons Aleks Ozolins suggested: >Piano lessons! _ Make every IM count. Download Messenger and join the im Initiative now. Its free. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Braces
A student of mine had braces put on a few months ago. She lost both her high and low range, but they are coming back. While she said it didn't hurt to play, the high and low notes just wouldn't play. It was a good opportunity to work on minimizing lip pressure and breath support. We ordered some of the different guards (the wax didn't work for her), but things were getting better before they came, so she isn't using them. She is going to be trying out for honor band soon with the Beethoven Horn Sonata and I expect her to make it. I would say her biggest difficulty has been her lips just kind of hanging up on the braces. David Laraway Alon reuven wrote: Hello all, A student of mine is about to put braces on her teeth . Does any one have any Idea about expected difficulties and solutions ? Alon Reuven ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/david%40dlaraway.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Braces
Pucky! Both my kids are in braces right now. The older one plays trumpet, got braces on in 7th grade 5 weeks before solo contest. The first time she played with them on, most of her upper register was gone and she could only play for a few minutes, which is fine, because there's no sense hurting yourself. Short (even just 5-10 minutes) practice sessions were the norm for a few days, making sure she didn't use a "goldfish" embouchure that would become a nasty habit to break. Within 2 weeks she was back to normal, with the exception of a fuzzier tone and missing high notes. Today (3 1/2 years later) she still has the silly things on, and hopes to get them off by Halloween, which will undoubtedly screw up her playing for a little while. She has a respectable range for a high school sophomore. Still some fuzz in the tone, but she has a mouth full of rubber bands pretty much holding her jaws shut. Not an "all-state" player, but then she doesn't have the drive for that. The younger one just turned 11 and is playing horn. She tried playing the day she got them on, and was able to play a C scale up and down, commenting that it felt weird. Same rule about not goldfishing the embouchure, and short practice sessions at first. She has a usable 2 octave range right now (f-f2) and will have the braces for another couple years. Bottom line is to treat the braces as a minor inconvenience. Don't think it's the end of the world and it won't be. If you as a teacher project fear and dread onto your student and believe they're the death knell for his or her playing, your student will oblige and they will be. Don't play hurt. Don't hurt yourself (i.e., easy on the pressure). There is also a lot that can be done in comfortable registers to improve one's playing even when braces take away some facility at first. Just an amateur non-music educator's opinion. John Baumgart -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Thompson Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 2:04 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Braces I second Aleks' suggestion and would suggest other alternatives such as: Voice lessons Ballet lessons Music theory lessons Aleks Ozolins suggested: >Piano lessons! > >On Oct 5, 2007, at 2:32 PM, Alon reuven wrote: > >> Hello all, >> A student of mine is about to put braces on her teeth . Does any >> one have >> any Idea about expected difficulties and solutions ? >> Alon Reuven ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/john.baumgart%40comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] John Barrows
Speaking of John Barrows, have his recordings of the Alec Wilder sonatas been reissued on CD? ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Braces
I got braces put on the second year of my playing, too. As I wasn't very good the first year (who is?) I didn't really notice any playing changes, other than endurance loss due to the metal digging into my lips. I got one of the plastic bumper guards, and it helped with the cuts and the pain. I was too young to really notice anything about my playing, articulation and tone-wise, but I do know that when I first started playing, I had a well-placed embouchure. When I got the braces off, the embouchure had changed. So, it might be a thing to keep an eye on. I assume that I moved my lips to the most comfortable position for the brace. I got them taken off the day before my high school marching band camp started, and that was a treat it felt like everything was sliding all over the place. But, playing 12 hours a day for 2 weeks straight, even though it was on a mellophone, really helped with the adjustment period. By the time I was back on my horn, I was playing better tha n ever . Since the mellophone was new for me, and it's a horrible instrument, I didn't have many issues with the post-braces adjustment. The thing that is killing me almost 10 years later is the embouchure... I never really noticed it until I got to college, because my private instructor just let it go. Now, I am in the process of changing it, right before grad school auditions... I only wish someone would have *made* me change it back when it went wrong. So, keep an eye out... Amy Krueger -- Original message -- From: "Steve Freides" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 3:15 PM > > To: horn@music.memphis.edu > > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Braces > > > > I have recently had a pupil afflicted by a brace on his > > teeth. He's an intelligent lad and I warned him of the > > worst effects - bad tone, difficulty in the upper register. > > I made him aware of every bad effect I could imagine so that > > nothing would be a shock to him. Thankfully, the effects > > were not so bad as I had painted and instead of being > > distraught at how badly his playing was affected, he was > > somewhat relieved. > > > > The brace came off two or three weeks ago and after a short > > period of re-adjustment he is now playing much better than > > ever - his tone is good and his control has returned. > > We had the same experience with my son - within a few weeks of getting > braces, his playing returned to most of what it had been, and once the > braces came off, all was well after a brief adjustment period. > > Bottom line - everyone's different, but braces are _much_ better (read: less > intrusive in all ways) than they used to be, and most brass-playing kids > seem to do fine with them. > > -S- > > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/akruegs629%40comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Braces
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 3:15 PM > To: horn@music.memphis.edu > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Braces > > I have recently had a pupil afflicted by a brace on his > teeth. He's an intelligent lad and I warned him of the > worst effects - bad tone, difficulty in the upper register. > I made him aware of every bad effect I could imagine so that > nothing would be a shock to him. Thankfully, the effects > were not so bad as I had painted and instead of being > distraught at how badly his playing was affected, he was > somewhat relieved. > > The brace came off two or three weeks ago and after a short > period of re-adjustment he is now playing much better than > ever - his tone is good and his control has returned. We had the same experience with my son - within a few weeks of getting braces, his playing returned to most of what it had been, and once the braces came off, all was well after a brief adjustment period. Bottom line - everyone's different, but braces are _much_ better (read: less intrusive in all ways) than they used to be, and most brass-playing kids seem to do fine with them. -S- ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Braces
I have recently had a pupil afflicted by a brace on his teeth. He's an intelligent lad and I warned him of the worst effects - bad tone, difficulty in the upper register. I made him aware of every bad effect I could imagine so that nothing would be a shock to him. Thankfully, the effects were not so bad as I had painted and instead of being distraught at how badly his playing was affected, he was somewhat relieved. The brace came off two or three weeks ago and after a short period of re-adjustment he is now playing much better than ever - his tone is good and his control has returned. The biggest problem is psychological - before the brace they can play well, with it they can't. To avoid this becoming a problem they need to be warned in advance of what the effects could be - don't let anything be a shock and remind them that once the brace is removed not only will they return to their normal facility, but they could be even better. Cheers, Lawrence lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Braces
I had my braces put on in my second year or playing, and I had them for about five years. I lost about half of my range immediately, but it cam back over the following month. I encountered some difficulty, because I found that using wax to cover the metal did not help; it would never stay, and I still ended up with painful places where the metal hit the inside of my lips. I tried a plastic brace guard, and that did not help either. For most people the plastic material brace guard will help. Eventually I resulted to playing with nothing guarding my mouth from the metal, I found that that was least likely to affect my articulations or sound. I had cuts for the first few weeks, but after that I never noticed it. I ended up with a few scars in the different registers, but nothing that has ever been a hindrance. They are gone for the most part, 5 years later. I noticed the biggest problem when I had my braces taken off. I lost over an octave, endurance and I had trouble re-learning how to place my articulations. Since then I had to adjust my embouchure I ended up having this wolfy sound for over a year. In the end this was because I had to relearn to play. It is kind of rough because you can get used to playing in a certain way, and it can work wonderfully. I thought when my braces came off it would be much easier, but it took a year and a half to gain back what I had when they finally did come off. The brace guard really should help, and I also found that on tougher days that a minty lip gloss, that did not contain petroleum, helped. You should warn her not to use orajel before playing. Also, my orthodontist made me take two days off from playing whenever I went in to have my braces adjusted. It's not really all that bad, but in the end it takes quite a bit of patience. Barbara From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alon reuven [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 2:32 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Braces Hello all, A student of mine is about to put braces on her teeth . Does any one have any Idea about expected difficulties and solutions ? Alon Reuven ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/barbara_rutledge%40berea.edu ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Braces
I second Aleks' suggestion and would suggest other alternatives such as: Voice lessons Ballet lessons Music theory lessons Aleks Ozolins suggested: >Piano lessons! > >On Oct 5, 2007, at 2:32 PM, Alon reuven wrote: > >> Hello all, >> A student of mine is about to put braces on her teeth . Does any >> one have >> any Idea about expected difficulties and solutions ? >> Alon Reuven ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Braces
Piano lessons! Aleks Ozolins On Oct 5, 2007, at 2:32 PM, Alon reuven wrote: Hello all, A student of mine is about to put braces on her teeth . Does any one have any Idea about expected difficulties and solutions ? Alon Reuven ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/ options/horn/aleks%40aleksozolins.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Braces
Hello all, A student of mine is about to put braces on her teeth . Does any one have any Idea about expected difficulties and solutions ? Alon Reuven ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] John Barrows - resend with correction
Yes, Fred, he did not own nor play a Kruspe. Best Regards, Ave On 10/5/07 1:17 PM, "Fred Baucom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ave, you meant 'he did *not* own or play a Kruspe...', right? > > Fred > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Avrum H. Golub, M.D., J.D. > Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 9:19 AM > To: The Horn List > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] John Barrows - resend with correction > > > Although I¹m sure John could borrow a Kruspe from someone, he did own or > play a Kruspe in the nearly 20 years that I knew him, even though he greatly > admired Arthur Berv. He did have virtually instant access to Holton H-177 > horns, and told me of a story of one being ³pancaked² in the baggage area of > a ³puddle jumper² on a flight to Albany, NY. Holton sent him a horn > immediately (prior to Fedex). > > As you know, the Holton H-177 bell throat is not ³large². Mr. Barrows did > not favor large throated horns. Virtually all of the players John worked > with in New York played Schmidts, Geyers and Alexanders with piston thumb > valve, Schmidt-style Knopfs entering the mix occasionally. > > Ave > > On 10/5/07 11:16 AM, "Fred Baucom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> The picture in the link provided looked more like a Kruspe than a Conn or >> Holton - the top slide was wider in shape... >> >> Fred >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of >> John Dutton >> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:22 PM >> To: horn@music.memphis.edu >> Subject: [Hornlist] John Barrows >> >> >> At the end of his career, John Barrows played a Holton Farkas model-I > think >> it was the 77 or the 177. I don't know how many years for sure but I > know >> for fact this is true. If you thought the picture was Conn-esque then the >> horn you saw was the Holton and not the Schmidt. >> >> >> >> The Jack Attack! >> >> >> ___ >> post: horn@music.memphis.edu >> unsubscribe or set options at >> http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/agolub%40optonline.net > > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/fbaucom%40gmail.com > > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/agolub%40optonline.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] John Barrows - resend with correction
Ave, you meant 'he did *not* own or play a Kruspe...', right? Fred -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Avrum H. Golub, M.D., J.D. Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 9:19 AM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] John Barrows - resend with correction Although I¹m sure John could borrow a Kruspe from someone, he did own or play a Kruspe in the nearly 20 years that I knew him, even though he greatly admired Arthur Berv. He did have virtually instant access to Holton H-177 horns, and told me of a story of one being ³pancaked² in the baggage area of a ³puddle jumper² on a flight to Albany, NY. Holton sent him a horn immediately (prior to Fedex). As you know, the Holton H-177 bell throat is not ³large². Mr. Barrows did not favor large throated horns. Virtually all of the players John worked with in New York played Schmidts, Geyers and Alexanders with piston thumb valve, Schmidt-style Knopfs entering the mix occasionally. Ave On 10/5/07 11:16 AM, "Fred Baucom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The picture in the link provided looked more like a Kruspe than a Conn or > Holton - the top slide was wider in shape... > > Fred > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > John Dutton > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:22 PM > To: horn@music.memphis.edu > Subject: [Hornlist] John Barrows > > > At the end of his career, John Barrows played a Holton Farkas model-I think > it was the 77 or the 177. I don't know how many years for sure but I know > for fact this is true. If you thought the picture was Conn-esque then the > horn you saw was the Holton and not the Schmidt. > > > > The Jack Attack! > > > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/agolub%40optonline.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/fbaucom%40gmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] John Barrows - resend with correction
Although I¹m sure John could borrow a Kruspe from someone, he did own or play a Kruspe in the nearly 20 years that I knew him, even though he greatly admired Arthur Berv. He did have virtually instant access to Holton H-177 horns, and told me of a story of one being ³pancaked² in the baggage area of a ³puddle jumper² on a flight to Albany, NY. Holton sent him a horn immediately (prior to Fedex). As you know, the Holton H-177 bell throat is not ³large². Mr. Barrows did not favor large throated horns. Virtually all of the players John worked with in New York played Schmidts, Geyers and Alexanders with piston thumb valve, Schmidt-style Knopfs entering the mix occasionally. Ave On 10/5/07 11:16 AM, "Fred Baucom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The picture in the link provided looked more like a Kruspe than a Conn or > Holton - the top slide was wider in shape... > > Fred > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > John Dutton > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:22 PM > To: horn@music.memphis.edu > Subject: [Hornlist] John Barrows > > > At the end of his career, John Barrows played a Holton Farkas model-I think > it was the 77 or the 177. I don't know how many years for sure but I know > for fact this is true. If you thought the picture was Conn-esque then the > horn you saw was the Holton and not the Schmidt. > > > > The Jack Attack! > > > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/agolub%40optonline.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] John Barrows
Although I¹m sure John could borrow a Kruspe from someone, he did own or play a Kruspe in the nearly 20 years that I knew him, even though he greatly admired Arthur Berv. He did have virtually instant access to Holton H-177 horns, and told me of a story of one being ³pancaked² in the baggage area of a ³puddle jumper² on a flight to Albany, NY. Holton sent him a horn immediately (prior to Fedex). As you know, the Holton H-177 bell throat is not ³large². Mr. Barrows did not favor large throated horns. Virtually all of the players John worked with in New York played Schmidts, Geyers and Alexanders with piston valve Knopfs entering the mix occasionally. Ave On 10/5/07 11:16 AM, "Fred Baucom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The picture in the link provided looked more like a Kruspe than a Conn or > Holton - the top slide was wider in shape... > > Fred > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > John Dutton > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:22 PM > To: horn@music.memphis.edu > Subject: [Hornlist] John Barrows > > > At the end of his career, John Barrows played a Holton Farkas model-I think > it was the 77 or the 177. I don't know how many years for sure but I know > for fact this is true. If you thought the picture was Conn-esque then the > horn you saw was the Holton and not the Schmidt. > > > > The Jack Attack! > > > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/agolub%40optonline.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] John Barrows
The picture in the link provided looked more like a Kruspe than a Conn or Holton - the top slide was wider in shape... Fred -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Dutton Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:22 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] John Barrows At the end of his career, John Barrows played a Holton Farkas model-I think it was the 77 or the 177. I don't know how many years for sure but I know for fact this is true. If you thought the picture was Conn-esque then the horn you saw was the Holton and not the Schmidt. The Jack Attack! ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] John Barrows
Indeed, Mr. Barrows often played a Holton H-177, a silver horn (which surprised him that he liked that metal of this model horn) during his professorship a the University of Wisconsin after leaving the New York scene. He worried that his Schmidt would be damaged in transit to performances. In fact the picture of John at http://www.hornsociety.org/PEOPLE/Honor/barrows.html shows him holding a H-177. Mr. Barrows also used a silver 5-valve B flat Schmidt as his back-up horn. In fact, John premiered a concerto written for him by Alec Wilder playing this 5 valve B flat horn on August 4, 1961 at the Yale Summer Music School Shed, Norfolk, Conn. (not Conn 8-D which he called a bazooka, LOL). The springs were shot, so he augmented the springs with rubber bands; some of the valve crooks were held together with scotch tape. So, as Mr. Barrows taught me, ³If you want to play, just play². Of course, he played the Wilder premier with glorious humility. Your observation that Farkas, Tuckwell, Lansky-Otto and Barrows blended perfectly speaks for the fact that it is the player, not the equipment, and musicianship that counts. The equipment is merely an extension of us. It is our axe, so we should decide in our minds, hearts and souls what we want to sound like and choose the axe (or baseball glove, or baseball bat) best for us. I count myself fortunate that I¹ve known what I want to sound like since age 12 and was taught by a musician¹s musician. Warmly and Fraternally, Ave On 10/5/07 7:50 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I saw him play the Hindemith Sonate on a Holton at the first horn symposium in > 1969 in Florida. He also played horn quartets with Farkas, Tuckwell, and > Lansy-Otto which was fascinating because they all played differently but > blended perfectly. > > -- Original message from "John Dutton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > -- > > >> At the end of his career, John Barrows played a Holton Farkas model-I think >> it was the 77 or the 177. I don't know how many years for sure but I know >> for fact this is true. If you thought the picture was Conn-esque then the >> horn you saw was the Holton and not the Schmidt. >> >> >> >> The Jack Attack! >> > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/agolub%40optonline.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] John Barrows
I saw him play the Hindemith Sonate on a Holton at the first horn symposium in 1969 in Florida. He also played horn quartets with Farkas, Tuckwell, and Lansy-Otto which was fascinating because they all played differently but blended perfectly. -- Original message from "John Dutton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: -- > At the end of his career, John Barrows played a Holton Farkas model-I think > it was the 77 or the 177. I don't know how many years for sure but I know > for fact this is true. If you thought the picture was Conn-esque then the > horn you saw was the Holton and not the Schmidt. > > > > The Jack Attack! > ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
