[Hornlist] Re: Julius Watkins - was: anyone ever heard this?

2007-12-31 Thread John Edwin Mason
Getting back to my email after a couple weeks, I see
that my friend Peter has offered some comments on my
friend Patrick's thesis on Julius Watkins:

JULIUS WATKINS AND THE EVOLUTION OF THE JAZZ FRENCH
HORN GENRE

http://etd.fcla.edu/UF/UFE0012940/smith_p.pdf

I was lucky enough to have been given a copy of the
thesis soon after it was completed, and I'd like to
echo Peter's closing remarks.  He was more critical
than I would have been, but concluded that on
balance, you really ought to take the time to check it
out.  I agree.

The thesis is a valuable contribution to the tiny
literature on the horn in jazz.  And it works on other
levels as well.  It's good to have another
biographical study of a lesser known jazz musician (we
know lots about the big names, too little about
everyone else).  It's also important to be reminded
how powerfully racism affected the careers of even the
most gifted black musicians of the day.

Happy New Year, cousins, from Cape Town.

--John

John Mason
Charlottesville, Virginia

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[Hornlist] Auf dem strom

2007-12-31 Thread Alon reuven
Happy new year everybody !!
Does anyone know of a good recording of Auf dem strom in Eb?
Alon Reuven
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Re: [Hornlist] Auf dem strom

2007-12-31 Thread Daniel Canarutto

Happy new year everybody !!
Does anyone know of a good recording of Auf dem strom in Eb?
Alon Reuven


Yes, the recording of Wolgang Tomboeck on the CD The Art of Vienna 
Horn. You can also get it from iTunes.


Greetings,
Daniel
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[Hornlist] FW: [horn] Chambers LP offer Received

2007-12-31 Thread Avrum H. Golub, M.D., J.D.

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 Subject: [horn] Chambers LP offer Received
 
 Howard,
 
 Many thanks! And, job well done!!
 
 My parents and Mr. Barrows are smiling remembering our discussions of this
 record, especially the Heiden Sonata. As I have come to learn, advocacy is one
 thing, dogma is another. Yet, there is much to be learned from diversity and
 heterogeneity.
 
 Avrum
 

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Re: [Hornlist] Auf dem strom

2007-12-31 Thread Luke Zyla
William Barnewitz has a nice album called Long Road Home.  It has this 
piece.  I got it on I-tunes.  He plays beautifully.


A search on I-tunes comes up with 12 different recordings.  At 99 cents a 
pop, you could have 9 versions.  Three of the recordings require you to buy 
the entire album.


My sons got me an I-Pod for Christmas.  I think I am going to OD on I-tunes.

Luke Zyla
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Happy new year everybody !!
Does anyone know of a good recording of Auf dem strom in Eb?
Alon Reuven
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RE: [Hornlist] Auf dem strom

2007-12-31 Thread Hunt,Thomas
In Eb?

It is in E!!

Tom in iowa



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Happy new year everybody !!
Does anyone know of a good recording of Auf dem strom in Eb?
Alon Reuven

Yes, the recording of Wolgang Tomboeck on the CD The Art of Vienna 
Horn. You can also get it from iTunes.

Greetings,
Daniel
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Re: [Hornlist] Auf dem strom

2007-12-31 Thread David Goldberg

Hunt,Thomas wrote:

In Eb?

It is in E!!

Tom in iowa
  


That depends on what the meaning of is is.

David Goldberg

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RE: [Hornlist] Auf dem strom

2007-12-31 Thread Hunt,Thomas
touche

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Hunt,Thomas wrote:
 In Eb?

 It is in E!!

 Tom in iowa
   

That depends on what the meaning of is is.

David Goldberg

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Re: [Hornlist] Auf dem strom

2007-12-31 Thread DalleyHN
Alas, Yes. The original Auf dem Strom calls for horn in E. However there 
are versions with the work transcribed down a half step to E Flat, and down 
a whole step to the key of D. And I have heard of an arrangement in the Key 
of C, to accomodate a low voice. Thus I would not be surprised if a 
recording has been made in one of the lower keys. That reminds me, based on 
the text it seems natural that the voice should be a tenor. However 
recordings by sopranos, anr known. Margo Stagliano, for instance. Regards. 


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Re: [Hornlist] Auf dem strom

2007-12-31 Thread Luke Zyla
Some of the recordings on I-tunes are with male voices. I like the sound. 
Perhaps they are in the key you are looking for.

Luke Zyla
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Alas, Yes. The original Auf dem Strom calls for horn in E. However there 
are versions with the work transcribed down a half step to E Flat, and 
down a whole step to the key of D. And I have heard of an arrangement in 
the Key of C, to accomodate a low voice. Thus I would not be surprised if 
a recording has been made in one of the lower keys. That reminds me, based 
on the text it seems natural that the voice should be a tenor. However 
recordings by sopranos, anr known. Margo Stagliano, for instance. Regards.

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Re: [Hornlist] Auf dem strom

2007-12-31 Thread Richard V. West

DalleyHN wrote:
That reminds me, based on the text it seems natural that the voice 
should be a tenor.


Good call! Auf dem Strom was originally written for a tenor, 
specifically Ludwig Tietze, who sang it at its premier on March 26, 1828 
with Schubert himself at the piano and J.R. Lewy performing the horn 
part, probably on a two-valve (possibly three-valve) horn. A valved horn 
pitched in E would have none of the cross-fingering problems that vex an 
F horn player transposing the part. I've played this piece both in E as 
well as  D horn to accommodate the range of specific singers. The D 
transposition is less taxing endurance-wise (Schubert is very stingy 
with rests), but does little to simplify the fingering.


Richard in Seattle wishing all a Happy New Year!
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