RE: [Hornlist] Pitch Perfect
This was somewhat discussed recently on one of the lists and I figure I'll add my 2 cents here. While I don't have perfect pitch, I can recognize most if not all pitches whether it be something I played or something I heard live or on a recording. Sadly, I can't do it all the time and more often than not, it's based on the instrument or voice playing/singing rather than the pitch or the range. For example, I can plainly hear piano, clarinet, flute, trumpet and many string pitches. However, I cannot easily discern percussion pitches (xylophone, vibraphone, timpani, etc.) nor can I identify many sung pitches. That being said, I can think a horn pitch and then whistle it. However, I cannot easily sing the pitch every time. Sometimes, I say to my students "Play this..." and then sing a line "cold" (not hearing the pitch prior to singing) and I'm dead on. Often, I'm exactly a perfect 5th off. All of this being said, I think it is related to the development of your vocal instrument. Since I've done very little singing and even less to cultivate the capabilities of my voice (sight-singing and Sinfonia were the extent of my singing experiences in college), I cannot control it to any confident degree. Furthermore, I think we as horn players may be thinking rather naively if we believe that we should be able to sing everything. After all, I know several professional singers who would contend that they've spent their entire lives learning to sing properly. For us to naturally assume that we should be able to sing a line if we can play it sort of negates their hard work and efforts. (I know that much of what they practice is inflection, diction, and numerous other facets, but they also practice pitch accuracy as well.) To your final question, I'm certain that there are such studies, but I couldn't put my hands on them even if forced to. I will say that my pitch accuracy (hearing and repeating) has increased in accuracy with age. My son, on the other hand, at age 3 has great pitch. He has a great basic embouchure too. Color me jealous. Cheers- Jeremy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 1:44 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Pitch Perfect I would warrant to say. If such a study has not yet ben done for a thesis etc. That accuracy while can be learned through programming, pattern recognition and etudes, is still greatly influences by our inner ear. Horn players with perfect pitch or very well set relative pitch will have obvious advantages in the accuracy department over our technically proficient counter parts with a less developed ear. I have always been a firm believer that a horn player should be able to vocalize any horn part. If you can not sing the notes you can not play the notes. I have always felt that any advantage I had in my youth came from the over development of my ear, but then I was that child wandering off in "la la" land (not the Solfège la) mimicking bird calls in my youth. =) If it had perceivable sound, I would try to recreate said sound. so inquiring mind want to know if any such studies do exist? **Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00 0307 ) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/jeremy%40sublymerecords.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Pitch Perfect
I would warrant to say. If such a study has not yet ben done for a thesis etc. That accuracy while can be learned through programming, pattern recognition and etudes, is still greatly influences by our inner ear. Horn players with perfect pitch or very well set relative pitch will have obvious advantages in the accuracy department over our technically proficient counter parts with a less developed ear. I have always been a firm believer that a horn player should be able to vocalize any horn part. If you can not sing the notes you can not play the notes. I have always felt that any advantage I had in my youth came from the over development of my ear, but then I was that child wandering off in "la la" land (not the Solfège la) mimicking bird calls in my youth. =) If it had perceivable sound, I would try to recreate said sound. so inquiring mind want to know if any such studies do exist? **Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut000307 ) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] apologies (was cantesanu horns)
Hi Folks, It appears my message got kinda messed up. I'm no Einstein when it comes to email. Here's my (hopefully) uncluttered message: Felix recently fitted my Otto 166 with a leadpipe, and I couldn't be happier. When I'm in the market for a new horn (perhaps sooner than later) he's first on my list. _ Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with Windows®. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588800/direct/01/___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Cantesanu horns
Jermey said the comment about Felix horns being lightweight was off, way off? Hmm Well, I will still say they are lightweight and they blow that way(quick response at ppp, lots of feel in the hands) . The gauge of metal in the slides, bell (Meinl?) is a bit thinner than a Rauch, Conn. It would rattle (ie. bass trombone) very easily in the low range, and volume range was in the brassy zone much faster than say, a Rauch. That being said,this is a perfect example of a Geyer style horn for that style of playing. The mouthpipe taper felt the best out of many horns I had played recently. I really like reciever, it is very well designed. Some of the best touches were the braces of the horn, very unique and stylish. High range was flawless up to and past high d (and loud) and the horn was in tune with itself over the full range of the horn. I also know that the balance of comparing horns can lead to someone thinking that a horn feels "lighter", when it is only the balance of the parts. all the best, Matthew ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Screwed up Cantesanu spelling so much...
Felix recently fitted my Otto 166 with a leadpipe, and I couldn't be happier. When I'm in the market for a new horn (perhaps sooner than later) he's first on my list.> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: horn@music.memphis.edu> Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Screwed up Cantesanu spelling so much...> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:04:10 -0400> > Well, since the link was already provided by Greg Campbell, I won't include> that here. However, I will say a few things about Felix and his horn. I> just did a marathon horn weekend this past weekend where I drove from the> Washington DC suburbs through Baltimore late at night and up to New York to> try out several horns. On my way out this past Friday night, I stopped by> Felix's place. In addition to inviting me and my friend in at a few minutes> after 9 PM, he allowed us to try his horn and the used Rauch he had in> stock. Additionally, he took the time to answer all of my questions> regarding his engineering of the horn as well as the choices he made> regarding each minute step.> > I'll go as far as to say that his horn blew the Rauch out of the water. In> fact, his horn blew many other horns that I've tried recently out of the> water! > > I'm not sure who described the horn as a "light" Geyer and then someone else> (unknown) referred to it as an ultra-light...Those folks were off - way off.> The horn isn't as heavy as the early Rauchs, but it is by no means anywhere> near as light as a Yamaha or a Schmid. It has a similar weight to any Berg> or similar horn. In fact, it weighed about the same as my colleague's> Eastlake 8D (maybe just a tad less). Ultimately, I did decide on a> different horn, but the main deciding factor for me was, even though both> horns (the one I bought and Felix's) were excellent horns and well worth the> money, I'm in need of a horn now where he does have a short wait right now> for his.> > I'm going to be posting some "horn blog" information on my MySpace page as> soon as I have some free time to write it up. > > Cheers- > > Jeremy> > PS - > Seriously, give this horn a try at the next workshop, you'll want to get on> the waiting list!> > -Original Message-> From: matthew scheffelman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 1:34 AM> To: horn@music.memphis.edu> Subject: [Hornlist] Screwed up Cantesanu spelling so much...> > I screwed up his spelling so much i will post the complete details here as I> have recieved SO many inquries, man I wish I made commision on this!> Cantesanu Horns> phone, 202 640 0719> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> have not checked if he has a website, but his buinsess card did not indicate> one.> all the best, > Matthew> > > > ___> post: horn@music.memphis.edu> unsubscribe or set options at> http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/jeremy%40sublymerecords.com> > ___> post: horn@music.memphis.edu> unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/treyjohnson37%40hotmail.com _ Be the filmmaker you always wanted to be—learn how to burn a DVD with Windows®. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588797/direct/01/___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Screwed up Cantesanu spelling so much...
Well, since the link was already provided by Greg Campbell, I won't include that here. However, I will say a few things about Felix and his horn. I just did a marathon horn weekend this past weekend where I drove from the Washington DC suburbs through Baltimore late at night and up to New York to try out several horns. On my way out this past Friday night, I stopped by Felix's place. In addition to inviting me and my friend in at a few minutes after 9 PM, he allowed us to try his horn and the used Rauch he had in stock. Additionally, he took the time to answer all of my questions regarding his engineering of the horn as well as the choices he made regarding each minute step. I'll go as far as to say that his horn blew the Rauch out of the water. In fact, his horn blew many other horns that I've tried recently out of the water! I'm not sure who described the horn as a "light" Geyer and then someone else (unknown) referred to it as an ultra-light...Those folks were off - way off. The horn isn't as heavy as the early Rauchs, but it is by no means anywhere near as light as a Yamaha or a Schmid. It has a similar weight to any Berg or similar horn. In fact, it weighed about the same as my colleague's Eastlake 8D (maybe just a tad less). Ultimately, I did decide on a different horn, but the main deciding factor for me was, even though both horns (the one I bought and Felix's) were excellent horns and well worth the money, I'm in need of a horn now where he does have a short wait right now for his. I'm going to be posting some "horn blog" information on my MySpace page as soon as I have some free time to write it up. Cheers- Jeremy PS - Seriously, give this horn a try at the next workshop, you'll want to get on the waiting list! -Original Message- From: matthew scheffelman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 1:34 AM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Screwed up Cantesanu spelling so much... I screwed up his spelling so much i will post the complete details here as I have recieved SO many inquries, man I wish I made commision on this! Cantesanu Horns phone, 202 640 0719 [EMAIL PROTECTED] have not checked if he has a website, but his buinsess card did not indicate one. all the best, Matthew ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/jeremy%40sublymerecords.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Screwed up Cantesanu spelling so much...
matthew scheffelman wrote: I screwed up his spelling so much i will post the complete details here as I have recieved SO many inquries, man I wish I made commision on this! Cantesanu Horns phone, 202 640 0719 [EMAIL PROTECTED] have not checked if he has a website, but his buinsess card did not indicate one. www.cantesanuhorns.com Greg ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
