Re: [Hornlist] NY Phil opening night 9/17/08

[Debbie Schmidt]

Sorry Jen, That is a third horn solo at the opening of Roman Carnival and
that was Thomas Jostlein on third. Erik Ralske acting associate principal
played first on the overture and the Ibert Concerto.

Debbie Schmidt




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Re: [Hornlist] NY Phil opening night 9/17/08

[Jen Gesinski]

The overture was played by Thomas Jöstlein.
 
JEN



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I watched the same performance on PBS and it looked like Phil Myers to me, but 
I don't think he played the Overture.? I thought they sounded great too!? Phil 
has lost weight over the past few years I think.
Sherry Baker


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I attended NY Phil's opening night last week, Wednesday 17th.  They were, of 
course, everything I hoped & dreamed of -- fabulous!  They did Tchai #4 & 
Berlioz's Roman Carnival & Sir James Gallway played the Ibert flute concerto.  
It was all magnificent!  Also, at the beginning, they all stood to play the 
national anthem which was especially touching being so soon after the 9/11 
memorial service.  

Here's my question for anyone who might know.  The man in the principal chair 
didn't look like the pictures I've seen of Philip Meyers.  If the principle was 
Philip Meyers, he's lost over 150 pounds & appears to have grown his hair out a 
bit.  Does anyone know if it was Philip Meyers?  If not, who was it?  Whoever 
he 
was, he played beautifully.  The whole section rocked.

I wanted to go back stage to hopefully meet a horn player or two, but I lost my 
jacket which took a while to relocate & assisted an elderly couple for a few 
minutes who took a tumble on the stairs.  (Ouch!)

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[Hornlist] Youtube and other WWW Links

[Bill Gross]

A modest request, when sharing url's a brief description of what one might
find by following the link would be a nice touch.  In sorting through many
e-mails a day knowing whether it would be of personal interest to follow
such a link or not would be a great time saver.  

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Re: [Hornlist] breath support (double post)

[neuro]

no problem :)
and thank you very much indeed ^_^


neuro
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Subject: [Hornlist] breath support (double post)



(I just realized I posted this response to the wrong list.  So sorry for 
double posting.)


Neuro,

IMHO Mathew gave a very good discription of good breath support.  But 
reading about good breath support and actually doing it are two different 
things.  I came back to horn 2 1/2 years ago after a 33 year hiatus.  I had 
a qualified private instructor who tried every angle imaginable to get me to 
breath correctly.  I just didn't get it.  I finally got some real help when 
I bought Wendell Rider's book, "Real World Horn Playing."  Wendell has some 
super simple exercises in his warm up that teach you want to "feel for" and 
"listen for" that really helped me know when I was doing it correctly. I 
couldn't possibly explain it here, so I'd strongly recommend you get his 
book.  I use Wendell's book and my Jeff Smiley book every single day.


Another thing that Wendell taught me that seriously helped my breathing was 
to inhale as silently as possible.  When the throat is wide open, large 
volumes of air pass quietly & efficiently.  I was constricting my throat as 
well as sniffing through my nose when I inhaled which sounded like someone 
getting a sudden fright.  I started taping my playing and it was very 
embarrassing to actually hear how much noise I was making w/ each 
inhalation.  I'd been playing this way for over a  year and changing the 
habit was a challenge.  Now you might think this is kooky, but what forced 
me to finally stop sniffing on inhalation was to wear a swimmer's nose plug 
for a few minutes every day during my warm up.  Old bad habits have a way of 
sneaking back up on me from time to time, so I still occasionally record 
myself to monitor my breathing.


Valerie in Tacoma
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[Hornlist] Take a look?

[John Roberts-James]

I've just found this on Youtube:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=g4To0xVCRo8&NR=1

John Roberts-James
www.musicsolo.com
  
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[Hornlist] breath support (double post)

[Valerie WELLS]

(I just realized I posted this response to the wrong list.  So sorry for double 
posting.)

Neuro,

IMHO Mathew gave a very good discription of good breath support.  But reading 
about good breath support and actually doing it are two different things.  I 
came back to horn 2 1/2 years ago after a 33 year hiatus.  I had a qualified 
private instructor who tried every angle imaginable to get me to breath 
correctly.  I just didn't get it.  I finally got some real help when I bought 
Wendell Rider's book, "Real World Horn Playing."  Wendell has some super simple 
exercises in his warm up that teach you want to "feel for" and "listen for" 
that really helped me know when I was doing it correctly. I couldn't possibly 
explain it here, so I'd strongly recommend you get his book.  I use Wendell's 
book and my Jeff Smiley book every single day.

Another thing that Wendell taught me that seriously helped my breathing was to 
inhale as silently as possible.  When the throat is wide open, large volumes of 
air pass quietly & efficiently.  I was constricting my throat as well as 
sniffing through my nose when I inhaled which sounded like someone getting a 
sudden fright.  I started taping my playing and it was very embarrassing to 
actually hear how much noise I was making w/ each inhalation.  I'd been playing 
this way for over a  year and changing the habit was a challenge.  Now you 
might think this is kooky, but what forced me to finally stop sniffing on 
inhalation was to wear a swimmer's nose plug for a few minutes every day during 
my warm up.  Old bad habits have a way of sneaking back up on me from time to 
time, so I still occasionally record myself to monitor my breathing.

Valerie in Tacoma
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Re: [Hornlist] Haydn Harmoniemesse

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Re: [Hornlist] Haydn Harmoniemesse

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Technically very easy!

But there is a problem!

I took part in rehearsals and performance, and asked whether Bb alto or Bb 
basso. The conductor said basso. Which I since have realised being wrong.

One of the last movements has a simple horn duo with the trumpets accompanying. 
This setting makes no sense at all with horns in Bb basso.  Since then I have 
read Hans Pizka saying that Haydn would set Bb trumpets and Bb horns in the 
same octave. Not a normal pattern, but then Bb (and rarily C) are the only keys 
which in the classical repertory may cause doubt whether up or down.

The Bb alto reading takes reasonably secure players. 

Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre


--- On Mon, 9/29/08, Tim Costen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Tim Costen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Hornlist] Haydn Harmoniemesse
> To: "The Horn List" 
> Date: Monday, September 29, 2008, 4:19 PM
> Dear Hornlist,
> 
> Without wanting to put anyone to undue trouble, can someone
> give me a 
> rough idea about the horn parts for the Haydn
> "Harmoniemesse"? I been 
> asked to help find someone to play first horn in a concert
> which 
> includes this, and want to make sure that whoever I suggest
> is suitable 
> for the job (the rest of the programme is not too hard).
> 
> Tim
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Re: [Hornlist] Haydn Harmoniemesse

[Tim Costen]

Hi Mike,

Floating Horn Player wrote:

Hi Tim

We put on the Harmoniemesse at university, and I performed it later on. 
Have played both horn parts for it and so far as I can recall there 
wasn't anything too dangerous in it - quite a nice play. Some 
transposition, but nothing too far out of the ordinary - some Bb maybe..




OK - thanks. I suspect that the main issue for the trumpets and horns 
will be "keeping down", as ever in (amateur) choral stuff of this sort.

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Re: [Hornlist] Haydn Harmoniemesse

[Floating Horn Player]

Hi Tim

We put on the Harmoniemesse at university, and I performed it later on. Have 
played both horn parts for it and so far as I can recall there wasn't 
anything too dangerous in it - quite a nice play. Some transposition, but 
nothing too far out of the ordinary - some Bb maybe..


FHP


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Dear Hornlist,

Without wanting to put anyone to undue trouble, can someone give me a 
rough idea about the horn parts for the Haydn "Harmoniemesse"? I been 
asked to help find someone to play first horn in a concert which includes 
this, and want to make sure that whoever I suggest is suitable for the job 
(the rest of the programme is not too hard).


Tim
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[Hornlist] Haydn Harmoniemesse

[Tim Costen]

Dear Hornlist,

Without wanting to put anyone to undue trouble, can someone give me a 
rough idea about the horn parts for the Haydn "Harmoniemesse"? I been 
asked to help find someone to play first horn in a concert which 
includes this, and want to make sure that whoever I suggest is suitable 
for the job (the rest of the programme is not too hard).


Tim
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[Hornlist] Green goo stain solution found!

[Carlisle Landel]

Bunch,

I decided to apply a little knowledge of chemistry and found the  
solution.


The green stuff is a metal oxide, so we need some sort of reducing  
agent.  In the US, at least, there is a product called "Lime Away",  
which is used to remove water deposits and rust from sinks and  
plumbing fixtures--its active ingredient is dilute phosphoric acid.   
In theory, this should do the trick.


In practice, it indeed does work.

I squirted some of this onto one of the shirts, plus some of the  
concentrated laundry stain product Shout (though you could probably  
use anything similar or just some liquid detergent) to remove any  
residual grease, and everything was fine this morning.  Note that it  
doesn't remove the stain immediately--you need to let it soak for a  
while.


Note that your mileage may vary depending on what you are using as  
your slide grease.  That is to say, the Lime Away will take care of  
the metal oxide, but you may also need a good grease remover.


A better life through chemistry!

Regards,

Carlisle



On Sep 28, 2008, at 5:28 PM, Carlisle Landel wrote:


Hornfolk,

I played a couple of concerts a while ago where the concert attire  
was the usual white shirt and black pants.


I hadn't cleaned my horn for a while, so the slides were a bit,  
well, messy.   You know, that little bit of black gunk on the  
slides, the combination of slide grease and a little bit of metal  
oxide.  I managed to get that on onto shirts I was wearing.


The question is:  How do you get rid of the stain that stuff leaves?

Thanks,

Carlisle
 -whose horn is now clean



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