RE: [Hornlist] Dvorak Horn Solo, DB recordings
Dennis Brain plays the 1st movement solo in the following recordings of Dvorak's Cello Concerto: Pierre Fournier, cello; Philharmonia Orchestra, Rafael Kubelik, conductor 19 October 1948 Paul Tortelier, cello;Philharmonia Orchestra, Malcom Sargent, conductor 16 June 1955 Janos Starker, cello; Philharmonia Orchestra, Walter Susskind, conductor 12 July 1956 All of these have been reissued on various EMI and Testament CDs. Cheers, Steve Steven Ovitsky Sotone Historic Recordings www.sotone.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Dvorak Horn Solo, Part 2
In my opinion Dvorak wrote for valve horns, just as Brahms did. But he chose transpositions for horns for several reasons: 1. was to eliminate accidentals if the part had been written in F. Wagner specifically spoke to this, I believe in one of his letters. 2. to infer relationships with the pairs of horns to the other instruments in the orchestra. Note that in the 6th, 7th, 8th and 9th symphonies Dvorak scored the first two horns in higher transpositions and scored then with the winds (frequently), and scored the second two horns in lower transpositions ad scored them with the brass and lower strings (frequently), of course with notable exceptions. I played the solo for Piatagorsky and Nelsova as well as my mother (an excellent cellist), and my sister (also an excellent cellist).I played it several times at Interlochen with high school soloists that I can no longer remember, and later with two community orchestras with their first chair cellists as soloists. As to when valve horns were written for, I will have to look it up, but I think it was as early as 1824. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Dvorak Horn Solo, Part 2
Many composers (most notably Richard Strauss) continued well into the early Twentieth Century to write their horn parts as though they were crooked in various keys, even though they knew that the parts were being played on valve horns, and that the players were transposing the parts. Even to this day, many (if not most) orchestral horn players prefer the clean look of parts with relatively few key signatures and accidentals. Emory Waters In a message dated 10/5/2008 9:48:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am also curious as to WHEN most composers switched to writing for Modern Valved Horns. Dvorak wrote this Cello Concerto in 1895, and included at least one spot where the Second Flutist had to play the Low B-Natural, which began being manufactured in 1877! I would think it was a bit risky for Dvorak to expect that all orchestras in the Late 1890's to have a "B-Foot Extension" for their Second Flute Players (who also have to switch to Piccolo a few times), but his Horns are still using Crooks?!? Wasn't Wagner writing for Valved Horns in the 1880's? **New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew0001) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Dvorak Horn Solo, Part 2
Hi Bear, I believe Dennis recorded mostly with the National Symphony Orchestra, the Philharmonia and the Royal Philharmonic. That might help narrow the search. Regards, Jerry in Kansas City In a message dated 10/5/2008 8:48:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have also been looking on the internet to see if there are any recordings with Dennis Brain or other famous Horn Players doing that Solo passage, but I'm not having much luck. **New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew0001) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Dvorak Horn Solo, Part 2
Hello again. As I look through the score, yes the first time the Horn plays that passage, it IS a Horn in E, playing Written B-Flats as needed, to sound in Concert D Major. Later the Solo Cello plays it at least one more time, again in Concert D Major. Of those of you who have performed the gorgeous famous Horn Solo from the First Movement of the Dvorak Cello Concerto, could you tell us with which cellists and orchestras you played it? I have also been looking on the internet to see if there are any recordings with Dennis Brain or other famous Horn Players doing that Solo passage, but I'm not having much luck. I am also curious as to WHEN most composers switched to writing for Modern Valved Horns. Dvorak wrote this Cello Concerto in 1895, and included at least one spot where the Second Flutist had to play the Low B-Natural, which began being manufactured in 1877! I would think it was a bit risky for Dvorak to expect that all orchestras in the Late 1890's to have a "B-Foot Extension" for their Second Flute Players (who also have to switch to Piccolo a few times), but his Horns are still using Crooks?!? Wasn't Wagner writing for Valved Horns in the 1880's? Bear Woodson Composer in Tucson, Arizona, USA Home: 520 - 881 - 2558 "Bear Woodson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "The 'X-Files' is just a stupid TV Fiction, written by juvenile, paranoid Humans. I know this, because the Space Aliens have told me so." - Bear Woodson (2000) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Dvorak Horn Solo
Last season we played the Dvorak Cello Concerto (Currently working on Symphony No.8) and I must say that just taking in the orchestra part in the first rehearsal without the soloist was one of the highlights of the season. I remember turning to the second horn and saying that I thought the piece sounded great as is and doesn't seem to need the soloist. Of course with the soloist is even better. Personally, the horn trio in the slow movement is some of the best writing for our instrument I have yet played. In other (NHR) news, there is a "Driveway moment" podcast on NPR featuring about 20 minutes of interview with Wynton Marsalis that is worth downloading. The man is such a cheerleader that it sometimes makes me want to blush, but his scholarship and understanding really come through in the interview. And while I'm thinking about it, Radio Lab has done some really interesting segments on music. Stephen Burian _ Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn “10 hidden secrets” from Jamie. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
