[Hornlist] Re: New Acoustical Testing of the Horn
Yes, but very indirectly. KB In a message dated 4/2/2009 1:01:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, horn-requ...@music.memphis.edu writes: message: 3 date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 17:54:55 -0500 from: Bill Gross william.s.gr...@gmail.com subject: RE: [Hornlist] New Acoustical Testing of the Horn Sid Fitch wasn't involved in this was he? **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: New Acoustical Testing of the Horn
Sorry, Jerry. I can't come to Mccomb as it conflicts w/KBHC. We are planning, though, to make a home version of the program for consumers. The problem is writing it to work on PC and Mac as this is written in a special new programming language we developed especially for horn players called LIPUX (similar to LINUX). Cost will be a factor as well, since I will want to maximize profits like Microsoft, Adobe, Intuit et al do. I think we can bring it in, including the digital-microphonic input-output pickup, which we now call the French horn Attenuating Recording Color Emitter along with the Horn Output Analog Xenometer (which is essential to have in your hand in the bell) for under $2500 but that hardware is going to be expensive. I'll keep everyone posted and thanks again! KB In a message dated 4/2/2009 1:01:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, horn-requ...@music.memphis.edu writes: message: 4 date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 20:31:02 EDT from: jerryol...@aol.com subject: Re: [Hornlist] New Acoustical Testing of the Horn Hi Kendall, This is exciting. Will you be demonstrating this program at the IHS Symposium in Macomb this summer? Best regards,Jerry in Kansas City **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: New Acoustical Testing of the Horn
Steve!!! You actually hit on an important part of this research! I had no idea others were so involved in this sort of thing. Part of the software package is the Musical And Scientific Hornalgorhythmitator or MASH for short. To be exact, it takes approximately 4,584 samples to do the open F horn. You can figure the amount for a full double from there. That is only the number inside the tubing, not including testing in and outside of the hall for what colors the projected sound emits. Thanks again for your interest! KB In a message dated 4/2/2009 1:01:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, horn-requ...@music.memphis.edu writes: message: 5 date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 18:11:31 -0700 from: Steve Haflich s...@franz.com subject: [Hornlist] Re: [horn] New Acoustical Testing of the Horn Kendall -- As you move the probe down the tube, does it also measure the changing proof of the mash condensate, or just the color? Exactly how many times did you guys sample? **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: New Acoustical Testing of the Horn
Mark - Sid does not play the horn any more. He is retired here in Sugar Hill and coaches Little League Fast Pitch Girls Softball. He's still got some stuff in his arm, but he wore out his lip years ago. He and Prof. IMG hang out from time to time but they always get in fights since Sid likes the Yankees and the Prof. is now a die-hard Red Sox fan. KB In a message dated 4/2/2009 1:01:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, horn-requ...@music.memphis.edu writes: message: 6 date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 22:18:47 EDT from: marksue...@aol.com subject: Re: [Hornlist] New Acoustical Testing of the Horn Does Sid still play the horn? He's getting on up there now, isn't he? **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: New Acoustical Testing of the Horn
Hey Herb, YES! And you will demonstrate every 100,000th of an inch of the entire Lexicon for us at KBHC! See you in June! KB In a message dated 4/2/2009 1:01:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, horn-requ...@music.memphis.edu writes: message: 8 date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 09:27:34 -0700 (PDT) from: Herbert Foster herb_fos...@yahoo.com subject: Re: [Hornlist] New Acoustical Testing of the Horn Ah hah! That must be the clam production area. Over how many 100,000ths of an inch does it extend? Will there be a demonstration at KBHC? Herb Foster **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Re: New Acoustical Testing of the Horn
Hey Carl, I suppose there might be a correlation between this and perfect pitch. So far, we have only been able to test, as I mentioned with the sound color at the hand in the bell, imperfect pitch. As to natural horns, I have run some tests late last night on a conch shell, English coach horn, Shofar, Zimbabwean KuDu horn, Digeredoo, rams horn, cow horn, car horn and SA Kelp horn with interesting results. The colors are fascinating on all of these but beyond the embouchure, always blood red, I can find no real correlation yet. As the sampling went on, I did notice a change in speech pattern, though, so you may be on to something there! Today, I'll compare Italian and American Makes. The Prof. loaned me his Anborg and his Sansone. This will be interesting, especially if the colors match between the front bell and the rear bell on the Sansone with the F extension exactly with those of the open F side of the Anborg. I'll keep you posted and may have to tap your expertise again about the LIPUX software. KB In a message dated 4/3/2009 1:00:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, horn-requ...@music.memphis.edu writes: message: 9 date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 13:27:05 -0700 from: Carl Ek car...@hotmail.com subject: [Hornlist] Re: New Acoustical Testing of the Horn Bruce, Kendall, This is extremely interesting. The algorithm you have = developed to display the=20 tonal spectrum could directly relate to a currently unsolved human = mystery: perfect pitch It is well known that people with perfect pitch tend to describe their = skill in terms of seeing the pitch as a colour. Here is an article explaining some other issues, take note that pitch = perceptions have been found to vary based on cultural background, the theory proposed that it directly relates to = native language and speech patterns: http://discovermagazine.com/2001/dec/featbiology Okay, now, to keep this discussion Horn related, I am curious if the = colours are different based on different=20 cultural Horn makers, for example, German vs. American .=20 and if you have done research on say, French Natural horns vs. South = Asian variants. Regards, Carl Ek Mooselip Canada **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re: New Acoustical Testing of the Horn
I suppose it's probably too late to offer it, but I work as a software developer on Linux/LAMP systems. I've done some harmonic computation scripts a few years ago - but they aren't really that complicated. My speciality now is with large databases and complex object oriented/ORM design. I had ideas for other music related scripts but I just never got them off of the ground. Since Linux is an OS, I'm not sure what you mean by LIPUX as a language similar to linux. Are you saying it's similar to shell scripting? Java? -William In a message dated 4/4/2009 9:09:26 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kendallbe...@aol.com writes: Sorry, Jerry. I can't come to Mccomb as it conflicts w/KBHC. We are planning, though, to make a home version of the program for consumers. The problem is writing it to work on PC and Mac as this is written in a special new programming language we developed especially for horn players called LIPUX (similar to LINUX). Cost will be a factor as well, since I will want to maximize profits like Microsoft, Adobe, Intuit et al do. I think we can bring it in, including the digital-microphonic input-output pickup, which we now call the French horn Attenuating Recording Color Emitter along with the Horn Output Analog Xenometer (which is essential to have in your hand in the bell) for under $2500 but that hardware is going to be expensive. I'll keep everyone posted and thanks again! KB **Hurry! April 15th is almost here. File your Federal taxes FREE with TaxACT. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220239440x1201335902/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.taxact.com%2F08tax.asp%3Fsc%3D084102950001%26p%3D82) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re: New Acoustical Testing of the Horn
William, I'm glad you caught that. I'm not a computer pro and I clammed. I confused operating system with programming language. Our new LIPUX is a programming language. Perhaps when our company expands with our anticipated success, you might consider us in your future? KB In a message dated 4/4/2009 9:53:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gretchenz...@gmail.com writes: -Original Message- From: valkh...@aol.com Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 09:48:27 To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Re: New Acoustical Testing of the Horn I suppose it's probably too late to offer it, but I work as a software developer on Linux/LAMP systems. I've done some harmonic computation scripts a few years ago - but they aren't really that complicated. My speciality now is with large databases and complex object oriented/ORM design. I had ideas for other music related scripts but I just never got them off of the ground. Since Linux is an OS, I'm not sure what you mean by LIPUX as a language similar to linux. Are you saying it's similar to shell scripting? Java? -William In a message dated 4/4/2009 9:09:26 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kendallbe...@aol.com writes: Sorry, Jerry. I can't come to Mccomb as it conflicts w/KBHC. We are planning, though, to make a home version of the program for consumers. The problem is writing it to work on PC and Mac as this is written in a special new programming language we developed especially for horn players called LIPUX (similar to LINUX). Cost will be a factor as well, since I will want to maximize profits like Microsoft, Adobe, Intuit et al do. I think we can bring it in, including the digital-microphonic input-output pickup, which we now call the French horn Attenuating Recording Color Emitter along with the Horn Output Analog Xenometer (which is essential to have in your hand in the bell) for under $2500 but that hardware is going to be expensive. I'll keep everyone posted and thanks again! KB **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re: New Acoustical Testing of the Horn
Hi Kendall, I did some research a few years ago with a program called French Horn Acoustic Research Tool. It concentrated on the very low register. For research on very high and loud playing I used a program called Horn Experimental Research Normalizer for Incremental Acoustics. All calculations were done using the Calibration Log-rhythm Arithmetic Method. I'll bett you're quite familiar with the latter. Maybe we can compare notes sometime? Best regards,Jerry **Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest jobs in a recession. (http://jobs.aol.com/gallery/growing-job-industries?ncid=emlcntuscare0003) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] New Acoustical Testing of the Horn (got ya?)
date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 09:08:36 EDT from: kendallbe...@aol.com subject: [Hornlist] Re: New Acoustical Testing of the Horn Sorry, Jerry. I can't come to Mccomb as it conflicts w/KBHC. We are planning, though, to make a home version of the program for consumers. The problem is writing it to work on PC and Mac as this is written in a special new programming language we developed especially for horn players called LIPUX (similar to LINUX). Cost will be a factor as well, since I will want to maximize profits like Microsoft, Adobe, Intuit et al do. I think we can bring it in, including the digital-microphonic input-output pickup, which we now call the French horn Attenuating Recording Color Emitter along with the Horn Output Analog Xenometer (which is essential to have in your hand in the bell) for under $2500 but that hardware is going to be expensive. I'll keep everyone posted and thanks again! KB You know, you announced this whole process on April Fool's day. I keep waiting to see if you mean it or it is a trap : ) LLB ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] My recital online
Hey list. I posted my recital online if anyone wants to listen to any of it. http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=e12bda28bce841256b21be4093fab7ac96565ae10487192fc95965eaa7bc68bc Programme order was Till Hindemith Fantasie for horns and 4 ch. tape Brahms Trio I hope everyone is well! -- Mathew James ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Idle minds
An idle mind is the devil's workshop. Isn't about time that Kenny Betts got a real day job? Perhaps if he was gainfully employed we would be spared the April Fools Day pranks etc. Prof. G. must be appalled at his former student's gratuitous lack of dignity. Have a good day. Bill _ Rediscover Hotmail®: Get e-mail storage that grows with you. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Storage1_042009___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Idle minds
Kendall Betts' Lustige Streiche -Original Message- From: horn-bounces+treicher=cooley@music.memphis.edu [mailto:horn-bounces+treicher=cooley@music.memphis.edu] On Behalf Of William Botte Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 1:10 PM To: horn-requests Subject: [Hornlist] Idle minds An idle mind is the devil's workshop. Isn't about time that Kenny Betts got a real day job? Perhaps if he was gainfully employed we would be spared the April Fools Day pranks etc. Prof. G. must be appalled at his former student's gratuitous lack of dignity. Have a good day. Bill _ Rediscover Hotmail(r): Get e-mail storage that grows with you. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover _Storage1_042009___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/treicher%40cooley.com This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. If you are the intended recipient, please be advised that the content of this message is subject to access, review and disclosure by the sender's Email System Administrator. IRS Circular 230 disclosure: To ensure compliance with requirements imposed by the IRS, we inform you that any U.S. federal tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachment) is not intended or written by us to be used, and cannot be used, (i) by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) for promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Idle minds
Come now sir, you protest too much. The clues practically leapt from the page on the Anniversary of Sidd Fitch's debut in Sports Illustrated. -Original Message- From: horn-bounces+william.s.gross=gmail@music.memphis.edu [mailto:horn-bounces+william.s.gross=gmail@music.memphis.edu] On Behalf Of William Botte Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 3:10 PM To: horn-requests Subject: [Hornlist] Idle minds An idle mind is the devil's workshop. Isn't about time that Kenny Betts got a real day job? Perhaps if he was gainfully employed we would be spared the April Fools Day pranks etc. Prof. G. must be appalled at his former student's gratuitous lack of dignity. Have a good day. Bill _ Rediscover HotmailR: Get e-mail storage that grows with you. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Sto rage1_042009___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/william.s.gross%40gmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Tunning Meter Recommendations
When I took up the horn again I purchased a Korg digital tuning meter. It's no longer working. I would appreciate recommendations on a replacement with attention to response time. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Tunning Meter Recommendations
At 4:49 PM -0500 4/4/09, Bill Gross wrote: I would appreciate recommendations on a replacement with attention to response time. Hi, Bill - I use a Korg CA-30, as does our principal oboe player. The response time is almost instantaneous. The time the pitch reading is held is about two seconds. I understand there is an improved CA-40 out now. Consequently, the price of the CA-30 is down. It's $12.21 right now at Amazon with shipping included if you spend $25 or more total. I recommend the CA-30 highly. It's small and accurate. I've never run out of battery. I believe it turns itself off automatically after a certain period of time, otherwise the battery surely would have run down. Carlberg -- Carlberg Jones Skype - carlbergbmug Cornista - Orquesta Sinfónica de Aguascalientes Aguascalientes, Ags. MEXICO ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re: New Acoustical Testing of the Horn
Is this really all original research? I thought that Schilke Instrumental Technology studies began this research many years ago. David Goldberg jerryol...@aol.com wrote: Hi Kendall, I did some research a few years ago with a program called French Horn Acoustic Research Tool. It concentrated on the very low register. For research on very high and loud playing I used a program called Horn Experimental Research Normalizer for Incremental Acoustics. All calculations were done using the Calibration Log-rhythm Arithmetic Method. I'll bett you're quite familiar with the latter. Maybe we can compare notes sometime? Best regards,Jerry **Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest jobs in a recession. (http://jobs.aol.com/gallery/growing-job-industries?ncid=emlcntuscare0003) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/goldberg%40wccnet.org ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
