Re: [Hornlist] Fuzzy and Sloppy Attacks
Michael, If I can put it very simply - and your answer may be more complex - The tongue never starts the tone. The tone begins when the lips vibrate sufficiently to generate the tone. The principal function of the tongue is to provide a clean beginning to the air flow. Take a moment (or two) to analyze what is going on when you produce your sound. My hunch is your tongue is interfering with both your air stream (not releasing the air cleanly) and your vibrating surface (touching or in some way disturbing you lips just when you begin to play). Either or both of these would cause a hesitation in the beginning of the true tone. It is certainly a problem that can be fixed with careful observation and practice. Best Chris Michael Kolaghassi [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/11/08 12:45 AM Hey everyone, It's been a couple years since I posted, I've come back after a hiatus. I've noticed I have fuzzy attacks that give my sound a brraaah quality. It is especially prevalent when trying to begin a pianissimo attack in the middle register. I've noticed that my tongue isn't really hitting the back of my teeth in that range but is more towards literally touching the biting surface of my teeth... In the low register my attacks are way off and sound very sloppy and my tongue comes into contact with the back of my upper lip. I try to place my tongue so that it doesn't hit my lip but then it seems to disrupt my ability to even produce the lower notes. I can't seem to generate a firm staccatto in that range or even a clean attack...any suggestions? Thanks, Michael K. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/cwilhjelm%40pascack.k12.nj.us ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Marching Instruments
Sandra, I was stuck with a few of these several years ago, Though they carry the Getzen name on the bell - you may notice the name Willson stamped on the side. These are essentially F (or e flat if you have the extensions) cornets (by whatever name). and ... they don't have to be terrible. The thing that helped us was forgetting the horn mouthpieces and adapters - the horns were never close to in tune with these. I had some success with E flat horn mouthpieces for the horn players and better yet deep cup cornet mouthpieces. I began to enjoy the horns - they were light - cut through the band without forcing and in the hands of decent players sounded pretty good. I like the the b flat king/conn horns better. Best Chris Wilhjelm Sandra Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/09/08 2:56 PM If it's long and thin - it's most likely the Getzen hybrid between trumpet and horn. Unfortunately, the only part of it inspired by the horn seemed to be the mouthpiece receiver size. You might want to try a King Marching F horn - or perhaps even their Bb model. I've heard good things about those. Kanstul (another marching horns manufacturer) makes one with a swept lead pipe - so your bell can be high without screwing up your embouchure! Good luck - -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Kecherson Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 2:44 PM To: Hornlist Subject: [Hornlist] Marching Instruments Hello again. I am a member of a community band in northern New Jersey (for those of you in the area, it is the Palisades Park Fire Department Band), which does many parades. Last year when I joined, I was the only marching hornist. Since I was new to the music and I cannot affix a lyre to my horn, I had a choice of two interesting instruments to play (both pitched in the key of F). I did not like the first one that I played. The only way I can describe it is as a flumpet, a sort of large trumpet pitched in F. It had horrible intonation, going sharp as I moved up the register. The second instrument I greatly enjoy, it is a Conn 16E Mellophonium. The intonation is much better, and the tone (though closer to a trumpet) is almost sort of like a horn's. My question is this: does anyone know what the first instrument was? I would attach a link for pictures but I did not get any. Thank you very much. -- Tim ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/sclark05%40bex.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/cwilhjelm%40pascack.k12.nj.us ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Pichl Fuchs
David, This is beautiful! Great work, thanks so much and Marc thank you as well Best Chris David Goldberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/06/08 2:13 PM I resolved part of the mystery of Vaclav Wenzel Wenceslas Pichl yesterday after a long search in cyberspace. I'll detail my journey, as there may be useful information here. The liner notes in my Kocian Quartet CD say that the name on the Pichl quartet manuscript is not written clearly; that it could be the work of a German-born composer named Lickl, of which there were several. Then I surfed the internet for both, and I eventually stumbled on http://www.worldcat.org/ , which allows anyone to simultaneously search many libraries around the world - amazing. While there, I found a wind quartet by Johann Georg Lickl, named Cassazione. That is the name of the 1st movement on my Kocian CD. To make sure that this is the Pichl quartet, I visited Amazon.com, searched for Lickl and came up with a CD that contains what looked like the same thing. Amazon allows you to listen to sound samples - that confirmed it. Short story, the Wenzel Pichl wind quartet was composed by Johann Georg Lickl. Back to worldcat.org - this site will list all of the libraries that have the piece in their catalog. In this case, there are many. But a possible complicating factor is that there might be further confusion - between the Lickl-Pichl Cassazione, and one by Mozart for the same 4 winds. Mozart's name appears through the worldcat.org library hits, and in one case at least, appears the word forgery. So it ain't over yet. I don't remember the Mozart Cassazione. Amazon seems to be down just now(!) so I can't get a sound sample of the Mozart to compare with Lickl-Pichl. On a side note, I stumbled on another interesting website with lots of links: http://www.music.ucsb.edu/projects/csms/ , the Czech and Slovak Music Society. David Goldberg ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/cwilhjelm%40pascack.k12.nj.us ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Wooden Mpc
A really wonderful trumpet player/composer Anthony Plog played very successfully for years with a wooden mouthpiece. For some folks metal causes issues with skin conditions for some others it may just be an issue of comfort. While I would not suggest this as the standard course, I certainly would be careful not discard the idea as silly. Best to all, Chris Dr. Chris Wilhjelm Band Director Pascack Hills High School 225 West Grand Avenue Montvale, New Jersey 07645 phone 201-358-2000 x2059 fax 201-358-7019 Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/29/08 9:48 PM Please forgive a remark which might be seen by some as off-color, but .. I expect Cabbage to tell us he played with himself --- meaning with a mouthpiece made of cabbage, of course. -S- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 9:05 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Wooden Mpc Don't let that kind of thing get spread around! Next thing you know, people will be asking what kind of potato it was, if it was in season or not, whether and how it was cooked, what throat size was used, whether it was a wide rim potato or a narrow rim, etc etc. You'll have tuba players convinced that they would have gotten that orchestra job if only they'd played on an Idaho russet instead of a Yukon Gold. Dave Weiner Brass Arts Unlimited -Original Message- From: Robert N. Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Thu, 29 May 2008 4:49 pm Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Wooden Mpc This question somehow reminds me of a story told about one of our local freelance tuba players. He played an entire performance of the Nutcracker with a mouthpiece he carved out of a potato shortly beforehand. The sad thing was how good it sounded, he said. Bob ** Robert N. Ward Principal Horn San Francisco Symphony [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS: Ashley: get a metal mouthpiece - you'll be happier. And try out a bunch before you buy. On May 29, 2008, at 1:38 PM, Ashley Grothe wrote: I am looking for a new mouthpiece to try. I don't really know what kind I want, but am leaning toward a wooden one. I was wondering if there was anyway to look at one before taking the dive and purchasing one then deciding it doesn't work for me... -Ashle ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/brassartsunlim% 40aol.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/steve%40fridays computer.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1473 - Release Date: 5/29/2008 7:53 PM ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/cwilhjelm%40pascack.k12.nj.us ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] your 5 mozarts
My two cents: Alan Civil's last set with Marriner and St. Martin's cw Leonard Peggy Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/06/08 9:47 PM The ol' desert island question with a twist: If you could only have 5 recordings of the Mozart concertos (all 4) which artist would you choose? This doesn't mean they are the best, just your favorites for some reason. So far I have 3 on my list: Dennis Brain Aubrey Brain Lowell Greer... ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/cwilhjelm%40pascack.k12.nj.us ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
