[Hornlist] Re: Shost. 5
Hans wrote: Too much politics in the arts, well, this is of evil. Too much implementing politics into the arts or too much interpretation of arts as expression of the politics is also of evil a typical reflection of the poor mind of the writers. They better should leave the arts alone. Hans, I would tend to agree with you that the influence of political oppression on the arts was and still is unfortunate. However, at the same time, don't you think that those same influences yielded some awesome results from those who were oppressed? Shostakovich, for example, felt as if his musical expressions were being quashed and stifled by the political authorities, yet they were not!! Perhaps it was that evil political influence that strengthened his resolve to compose the powerful music that he did. Could his music have been as great had his inspiration been different? Surebut we will never know. I would argue that the evil politics is terrible for the physical and emotional well being of the human beings it oppresses, but is, in fact, the catalyst of artistic expressions that would never otherwise be known. Respectfully, Charles Renfro ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re:Today in history
Mine ,too! However, Ludwig is 192 years my senior
Charles
date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 01:13:39 -0500 (EST)
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subject: [Hornlist] Today in history
Happy Beethoven's Birthday, all!
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[Hornlist] Your opinions please
I've recently listed my Elkhart 8d on Hornplayer.net. This morning I received this response: Hello, I'm interested in making a purchase of your musical instrument found on the posted ads on www.hornplayer.net .I'm a broker,based in Italy and I have a client interested in your musical instrument, please tell me the final price you want for it and if it's still available.Please let me know if payment by check is ok. Please reply urgent Regards! They havn't even seen a photo. What are your thoughts? Are the cultural differences such that this letter only seems stupid? Or does this broker think that I'm stupid? I'm considering telling them I will only accept paypal. Please let me know what you think! Thanks, Charles ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] I'm so tempted....but I won't (Charles Renfro)
Regarding the thread Atom-bombing of Japan in 1944 Ok! Please stop! As often as I find my world view and political opinions in direct opposition to the ones expressed on this list, I'm REALLY very tempted to respond in kind to some of the remarks and statements recently made regarding the above topic. But I'm doing my best to refrainI really am!! In all honesty, many of the political discussions I read on this list anger me to the point that I think of many of you as complete idiots, instead of thinking in terms of our like interest (the Horn) and the various talents and musical experiences you have. I'm tired of feeling that way. If one day I were to meet some of you at a horn conference or some other horn venue, I would like to be able to experience a click, as if we've known each other beforeas if our shared interest in the horn and participation on this list would eliminate the need for formal introductions. Is that too idealistic? I am not a fan of politics, nor am I a fan of war, but I realize that both are realities of the world we live in, and necessary components of a world full of imperfect people. However, I tend to think and speak passionately on these subjects because they are essential not only to our current society, but to history as well. But when these topics are inserted into the horn list, the magnitude of their importance to society quickly vault them over and above any horn topics. I've monitored this list for about three years now, and the outcome has nearly always been the samepeople get offended and animosity builds. Personally, and unfortunatelly, some of these NHR issues have given me impressions of some of you that are not favorableand I assume some of you probably feel the same way about me. I'm sure that, as usual, some overly articulate person will respond with various good sounding reasons why there's really nothing wrong with these topics, and how we don't have to read them if we don't want to. These statements are probably all true, but they're also crap. We do read them!! We don't bypass them! We're all curious! We all want to see who will add fuel to the fire! We are all humanI think? As Dan Phillips and various others have suggested, lets cut the crap. Lets talk about horn stuff!! If one of you were to start a Yahoo Groups list entitled Political discussions for horn enthusiasts, I would probably sign up. Respectfully, Charles Renfro ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] The Rite of Spring
I'm interested in gathering a list consensus on Stravinski's Rite of Springnamely, favorite recording, best performance/interpretation, or combination of both. All opinions are welcome! Thanks, Charles ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Horn music on PBS
Does anyone remember a program on the Public Broadcasting Service back in the 70's called Previn and the Pittsburg? The opening music was an orchestral piece which featured the full horn sectionthe orchestra was mere back-up! It sounded awesome! Does anyone remember this? Does anyone know what music this is? I remember being frustrated that the credits never gave any clues. If I were to guess, I would say it might have been a Copland piece. Thanks, Charles Renfro ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] 8D serial # ?? (Charles Renfro)
Last night I met a fellow who played a fairly new 8D. He said he purchased it new about 10 years ago from Brasswind. But it had a 500,xxx serial numberno letters at all. The bell was stamped Conn USA 8D. So what's up that?? My list of serial numbers doesn't go beyond 1987. Charles ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Accidental Re-post
Dear list, Please excuse the accidental re-post I just unleashed!!! I just installed a new Operating System, and I'm currently shooting myself it the foot! No offense to anyone! C Renfro ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Requiem (NHR)....(C Renfro)
Prof. Pizka writes: Have you heard about the new requiem, which is just under way. It is set for cluster bombs (instead of trombones), stray bombs (replacing the trumpets), crying small children because of terrible burns (replacing the usual boys choir), bombardments from the air (some new technique ? I always thought bombs fall down from the air have ever seen bombs jumping up ? Stupid thoughtless newsmen !), crashes from bombarded hospitals for newborns replacing percussion, rumsing bumsing of tomahawks other evil instruments (replacing the horn section), woman old men singing their pain because being hit in their waist by shrapnels (replacing the woodwinds), etc. soloists are the wolf faced generals reporting to the press, female soloist is the also wolf faced nicely dressed lady assisting Gen.Chystal. Astonishingly, all these folks, standing in the frontline in front of the audience, like in the concert, have a very narrow distance between their eyes (physically seen), so their horizon might be quite narrow. (all seen in the IRIN English news 24 hours program =3D IRIN is TV of IRAN) Yes I know, I take on to your nerves. But this US-GB initiated War (just or unjust is not my business to judge) is spoiling our all life, is spoiling our TV programs, is spoiling all our thinking. So we have to talk about even here. I do not expect any response.. You know Hans, for a pacifist, you have an uncontrollable desire to start trouble, and in this case perpetuate controversy. I never realized that pacifists could be such a pain in the ass!! I scan through this list every day to see if there might be some useful information on horns and horn playing that would benefit mewhich there usually isbut then my eyes have to gaze upon your editorial drivel. I think it would be much easier on us all if you would just be honest and say what you really feel in a straightforward, simplistic way. Tell us all how you hate America and how you detest the fact that she is the leader of the free world. Tell us how much you hate the fact that her leadership has dared to put a stop to the murderous regime in Iraq, and in doing so will no doubt make the world a safer place for even YOU to live. You say your philosophy will not allow you to hate, but your statements belie this conviction. It might also be helpful if you reposition your satelite dish and begin watching a more truthful interpretation of news events. It is clear that whoever or whatever you are currently watching is further polluting your bias (Garbage in, Garbage out). BTW, pacifists do not choose sidesyou are not a pacifist. I am truly appreciative of most of the knowledge you share with the list regarding the horn, but I will shamelessly and without remorse jump down your throat if you continue to talk s#*t about the USA! Sincerely, C Renfro ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Rude comment.........(Charles Renfro)
Mr. Philips wrote: Thank you for that concise (and accurate) comment :-) Unfortunately, the person to which you responded probably won't understand it. :-( Dan Yes, he does! If he could think of a smart-alec response worthy of use in this situation, he sincerely doubts that he would write it. There is far too much to say that is important. Regards, CR ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: I remember (NHR)..... (Louttit) (Charles Renfro)
Dear Mr. Louttit, I would like to thank you for clarifying my position for me. By attacking my personal life and characterizing me as some misguided dimwit of a citizen, you have identified yourself precisely as the type of person I was describing in my post. You are a creature of emotion refusing to use good sensenot surprising judging from the political disposition of your area of the country. Thanks again! Charles Renfro ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
