Re: [Hornlist] A Do-It-Yourself Screwbell How-To...

2004-08-30 Thread John Kowalchuk
At 05:49 PM 8/30/04 -0400, Walter E. Lewis wrote:
>I remember the line, "Don't attempt this at home"

Many of the thing depicted on my web page should not be attempted by mere
mortals.  I will add a caution to page in question:

"Don't try this at home, I am a trained professional hornwrecker."

John Kowalchuk  maker of mutes/horns/canoes/paddles/bikes
Oshawa, Ontario http://home.ca.inter.net/~horn1

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Re: [Hornlist] A Do-It-Yourself Screwbell How-To...

2004-08-30 Thread Walter E. Lewis
Hey Paul,
Have you seen the Homer Simpson commercial for Master Card? If I attempted 
to cut the bell on my two Alex 103's (the other one is already cut), I 
probably could be heard all the way to the Hornwrecker's house yelling 
Do'ah!!! By the way, Hornwrecker lives literally around the corner from me...

I remember the line, "Don't attempt this at home"I am also reminded of 
the line from the WEB Griffin novel about a person jumping from a perfectly 
functioning aircraft...

Walt Lewis

At 02:55 PM 8/29/2004 -0400, you wrote:
jrc in SC
It shouldn't be too expensive to make a do it yourself screw bell conversion
kit.
I would only cost about $1000.
$100  for the ring
$ 50   for the instructions
$ 100  for the necessary tools and supplies( unless you already have an
adequate torch)
$ 750 for  a qualified repair tech to supply a new bell and new ring and to
correct what ever other damage you incur to your horn by trying to do this
without  knowing what you are doing. :)
Paul Navarro
Custom Horn
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Re: [Hornlist] A Do-It-Yourself Screwbell How-To...

2004-08-29 Thread Jon Karschney
When I wanted to cut the bell on my 8D my dad told me to grab the sawzall.  
Probably too big a blade though.  =)

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[Hornlist] A Do-It-Yourself Screwbell How-To...

2004-08-29 Thread J. Kosta
The Oberloh web site has some interesting items regarding instrument repair
and restoration - see

http://www.oberloh.com/gallery/gallery.htm

Jay Kosta
Endwell NY USA

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Re: [Hornlist] A Do-It-Yourself Screwbell How-To...

2004-08-29 Thread Christopher Bonner
I find myself in complete agreement with Paul on this.  Do you love your
teeth?  Do you drill and fill your own cavities?  Do you love having a car
that works?  Do you do major repairs yourself?  If the answer to either of
these is NO, then why would you want to harm your poor ol' beloved horn?  I
do not perform surgery on my horn, my car or my body.  I leave these tasks
to qualified professionals.  Think through all possible outcomes prior to
cutting into your horn. I think the Bible says something about "Pride goeth
before a fall" or something along those lines.  Swallow your pride and let a
pro do the job.  Just my two cents worth.
Happy Thoughts
Chris Bonner
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jrc in SC

It shouldn't be too expensive to make a do it yourself screw bell conversion
kit.
I would only cost about $1000.

$100 for the ring
$ 50 for the instructions
$ 100 for the necessary tools and supplies( unless you already have an
adequate torch)
$ 750 for a qualified repair tech to supply a new bell and new ring and to
correct what ever other damage you incur to your horn by trying to do this
without knowing what you are doing. :)
Paul Navarro
Custom Horn
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Re: [Hornlist] A Do-It-Yourself Screwbell How-To...

2004-08-29 Thread John Kowalchuk
At 02:55 PM 8/29/04 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>It shouldn't be too expensive to make a do it yourself screw bell conversion 
>kit. It would only cost about $1000.

I should have pointed out that I meant $800 Canadian.  This is very close
to the price quoted on Osmun's site of $650 US.

John Kowalchuk  maker of mutes/horns/canoes/paddles/bikes
Oshawa, Ontario http://home.ca.inter.net/~horn1

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Re: [Hornlist] A Do-It-Yourself Screwbell How-To...

2004-08-29 Thread CORNO911
jrc in SC

It shouldn't be too expensive to make a do it yourself screw bell conversion 
kit.
I would only cost about $1000.

$100  for the ring
$ 50   for the instructions
$ 100  for the necessary tools and supplies( unless you already have an 
adequate torch)
$ 750 for  a qualified repair tech to supply a new bell and new ring and to 
correct what ever other damage you incur to your horn by trying to do this 
without  knowing what you are doing. :)
Paul Navarro
Custom Horn
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Re: [Hornlist] A Do-It-Yourself Screwbell How-To...

2004-08-29 Thread John Kowalchuk
At 07:46 AM 8/29/04 -0400, Ray and Sonja Crenshaw wrote:
>I'm looking for a fairly long web article (with many color pictures) that
>features a guy in short pants out in his shop chopping the bell off a
>friend's horn and making a screwbell conversion.

That would be me.  I'm not suggesting it's a DIY project.  It's worth $800
- $1000 to have a competent repairperson do it right.  My page does not
show the step-by-step instructions nor does it show the details work that
goes into finishing the job.  I was more concerned with the work than the
photos.

>That's right; I want to make some metal dust!

Buy a bargain horn on ebay and practise on that.  You know the shiny new
ones that have been talked about so many times.  Don't try to play, just
put a torch to it.

>Where's a good place to buy a Holton (or equivalent) screwbell ring?

Jupiter makes rings that are almost compatible with some of the other
Alexander-style rings (almost the industry standard) which are almost
compatible with some of the other copies.  Unless you want to buy a
replacement bell these will allow you to remove and install yours a few
thousand times.

John Kowalchuk  maker of mutes/horns/canoes/paddles/bikes
Oshawa, Ontario http://home.ca.inter.net/~horn1

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Re: [Hornlist] A Do-It-Yourself Screwbell How-To...

2004-08-29 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
In a message dated 29/08/2004 12:45:30 GMT Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

"I plan to c*rcumscise a Holton H-179 Farkas-model"

This sounds like a great idea.  If you find the article, please post  it to 
the list - I'm sure there are lots of people out there who would love to  have 
a go at this.
 
To all the professional repair men out there:  Wake up lads! -  business is 
looking up!
 
All the best,
 
Lawrence

"þaes ofereode - þisses swa  maeg"

http://lawrenceyates.co.uk
 
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[Hornlist] A Do-It-Yourself Screwbell How-To...

2004-08-29 Thread Ray and Sonja Crenshaw
I once ran up on it somewhere out there on the web but, try as I might, I
can't find it now.

QUESTION #1:
I'm looking for a fairly long web article (with many color pictures) that
features a guy in short pants out in his shop chopping the bell off a
friend's horn and making a screwbell conversion. I've found the Osmun site's
"how we do it" page, but the web article I seek is more along the lines of,
"Relax and get your saw warmed-up; even my great-grandmother could do this
stuff!" Just think, "Tim 'The Tool Man' Taylor meets Dr. Frankenstein And
His Hacksaw," and you're on the right track. But don't say "Kevorkian," or
you might make me nervous.

At first, you may have wondered why I would be looking for such an article,
but after reading my quoted description of it, I'll be you've probably got
it figured by now. That's right; I want to make some metal dust!


QUESTION #2:
Where's a good place to buy a Holton (or equivalent) screwbell ring? I
looked into this twenty years ago but nearly swallowed my teeth when a
couple of the big instrument repair houses quoted me outrageous prices on
JUST THE THREADED RINGS. For the prices I heard back then, a repairman
should've flown out to meet me with the part, then installed and re-plated
my valves just to make sure I'd be happy.

I plan to c*rcumscise a Holton H-179 Farkas-model, so I think I might want
to use the standard Holton ring. I can see the (possible) wisdom of choosing
the Alex ring, but let's face it; I won't be ordering any $2500 (or
whatever) Schmid bells to see how I like them on my $500 Holton. Plus, the
Holton ring should be sized such that it fits in a good place along the bell
branch, not RIGHT WHERE the brace goes.

Thanks,

jrc in SC

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