Re: [Hornlist] A favor to ask you all

2006-11-18 Thread Jerryold99
Hi ALL,
 
Sorry for the "fyi" email to the group ...  should have been a private 
email.
 
Regards,Jerry in Kansas City
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Re: [Hornlist] A favor to ask you all

2006-11-18 Thread Jerryold99
Hi,
 
... more fyi
 
J
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RE: [Hornlist] A favor to ask you all

2006-11-18 Thread hans
Hello Lawrence, yes, you are right. There are plenty
teachers out there, who do not even look on to a students
embouchure carefully enough, but insist for a change, a
change to an embouchure of their own idea (teacher) to fit
everybodys mouth & lips. 

There is just ONE right horn embouchure, but with many light
variations according to the anatomy of the player.

The principles are most clear:
Centered mpc set into the flesh of the lower lip near to the
edge of the red flesh so to pull open the "blow hole" in the
center, typical brass player face or mask, not "crawling"
into the mouthpiece, lip under control in all playing
regions, relaxed as possible, minimum of vertical pressure
against the lips (depending on range & dynamics), keeping
the blow hole open as possible. One has to see the variables
& move within these boundaries until the desired result will
be achieved, preset the targets  or expectations are not
exaggerated. 

The bad teacher forces the student to do just everything
after his advice precisely no matter of the different
anatomy, instead of adjusting the things or correcting bad
habits.

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Changing a student's embouchure at music college doesn't
always mean he has been badly taught before going to
college.
 
At a music college I know there was one teacher who was
notorious for changing embouchures as a matter of course.  I
was talking to some friends  and mentioned that one of my
ex-students had gone to this college and was being taught by
this player - in chorus my friends finished my sentence -
"...and he changed his embouchure".
 
Sorry - rushing - I'm at work and have just been called away
 
All the best,
 
Lawrence
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Re: [Hornlist] A favor to ask you all

2006-11-18 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
Changing a student's embouchure at music college doesn't always mean he has  
been badly taught before going to college.
 
At a music college I know there was one teacher who was notorious for  
changing embouchures as a matter of course.  I was talking to some friends  and 
mentioned that one of my ex-students had gone to this college and was being  
taught by this player - in chorus my friends finished my sentence - "...and he  
changed his embouchure".
 
Sorry - rushing - I'm at work and have just been called away
 
All the best,
 
Lawrence
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RE: [Hornlist] A favor to ask you all

2006-11-17 Thread hans
Hello Scott, 

Stories wouldn´t do it. It is not a matter to comfort the
victim of embouchure change. It is rather a matter of
discipline.

I would first see, what she had done wrong with her
embouchure.
Second, I would recommend, not to think too much about the
changes regarding muscle action, etc.
Third, she should just play the horn - relaxed or as relaxed
as possible, with the minimum pressure possible.
Fourth, she should undergo a beginner course by herself,
remembering all the beginner exercises - well, I know, it is
boring, very boring - but there is no other choice: long
tones, scales, intervals, some Kopprasch, etc.

Fifth: most important - be patient, do not force things, let
the high notes alone, concentrate on the middle range & low
range. 
Sixth: leave alone all ambitiousness - for now.

(new) Embouchure  will work after some two or three weeks -
not for Weber or Strauss 2 or Foerster, but it will work. If
she is going hysteric, NOTHING will work, all will be
ruined.

Who is to be blamede ? She or her former teacher ? Such
defects must be eradicated from the early stage of playing.
Why was the change ?

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Hi everybody,

I have a former student who is attending a well known music
school. 
She is going through an embouchure change and her life is no
fun right now. She is depressed and I have cheered her up
all I can.

What I would like, if you would indulge me, is to collect as
many stories as I can from people who have had to face tough
situations and have come out well and happy. Horn related
stories are best, but I'll take everything.

Thank you in advance. Please send the stories directly to me
at:

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scottito
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Re: [Hornlist] A favor to ask you all

2006-11-17 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
May I suggest that you do not pass onto her my favourite little rhyme from  
my college days (usually recited late at night from the top of a table in  the 
college bar:)
 
They said the job couldn't be done
Said the confident man, "Lead me to it!"
He tackled that job that couldn't be done
And he couldn't do it!
 
All the best,
 
Lawrence
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[Hornlist] A favor to ask you all

2006-11-17 Thread Scott Hartman

Hi everybody,

I have a former student who is attending a well known music school. 
She is going through an embouchure change and her life is no fun 
right now. She is depressed and I have cheered her up all I can.


What I would like, if you would indulge me, is to collect as many 
stories as I can from people who have had to face tough situations 
and have come out well and happy. Horn related stories are best, but 
I'll take everything.


Thank you in advance. Please send the stories directly to me at:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



scottito
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