Re: [Hornlist] Another Survey Revision
Well, I think I am a serious player (I never laugh while playing) but I refuse to answer such a meaningless question, sorry. Statistics is a serious and difficult matter, to be handled by experts; otherwise tou just add to the general confusion, and I won't do that (at least purposedly). -- Daniel Canarutto mathematical physicist & dedicated amateur hornist http://www.dma.unifi.it/~canarutto/ (professional home page) http://www.corno.it (Il Club del Corno) http://www.amadeusorchestra.org (orchestra Amadeus - Firenze) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Another Survey Revision
William Foss wrote: Dear List, I am testing my hypothesis that I can get my homework turned in (ha ha). Seriously, folks. (Correct me if I'm wrong William.) This guy is just taking a course on statistics and needs a data set from which to derive normal statistical information. I assume this stuff isn't going to be published in a journal; it's not going to be published anywhere where it's going to affect how people choose to practice. We could all make something up (completely lie!) and William would have a data set to use for this assignment. If we all were truthful, William might actually have some interesting data but his survey size is too small to create any real conclusions anyway. William could have said: I'm surveying serious horn players. Please pick any number from one to twenty. Given the numbers people choose, I will measure the central tendency, make a frequency distribution table, pie graph, find variance, standard deviation and then find the intervals of 1,2,3 of the standard deviation. It's wouldn't be much different, we'd still be arguing over the semantics of what makes a horn player "serious." Greg ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Another Survey Revision
Well then, now that you have re-defined a serious horn player, I'm one of those that have a (non musical) job. When at home the only time I get to practice is one morning over the weekend. I will play until my lip falls off which is generally about 3 hours. However, when I travel for more than a few days, I will bring my horn along and play for about 2 hours each evening in my hotel room. Today I decided to work from home and not go into the office. This will be one of those odd days when I get another chance to practice during the week. Put me in for anther 2 hours. Regards, Joe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Foss Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 6:35 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Another Survey Revision Dear List, I am testing my hypothesis that I can get my homework turned in (ha ha). The assignment is to take a sample space of fifty (in my case, horn players) the example was to take 50 small bags of M&Ms and count the number of a certain color in each bag. Or, we could poll a group of fifty people, asking a question with a number for the answer. From there, we measure the central tendency, make a frequency distribution table, pie graph, find variance, standard deviation and then find the intervals of 1,2,3 of the standard deviation. I appreciate the questions that you have for me, they are very similar to those the teacher gave the class to apply to this assignment. I am not really testing any hypothesis, however. The interpretation of the data will not be anything other than "this is approximately how much the average horn player practices." Also, now that I think about it, the title of "serious horn player" was a very poor choice of words. I think that anyone on this list is serious enough to pay attention to the horn world outside of playing is a serious horn person. Some of the people who have sent me results manage to find the time to play, have a life, and have a job all at the same time. I think that that signifies a person who is serious about horn. William Foss Paul Ingraham's advice to young horn players: Find a good teacher. Practice diligently. Watch what you say to your colleagues. >I hate to pester, but I'll take this announcement to repost my earlier >question, as I think it is even more applicable now that responses are >requested from such a wide variety of people: > > >Though I am sure there are greater experts than I out on the list, I'll > >do my duty as a doctoral student in a research program (meaning, I've > >suffered my share of statistics courses) and ask you, William, about > >what exactly you have in mind for your survey. What hypotheses are you > >testing with the survey? Is there anything in particular you are trying >to > >demonstrate or support with the info you gather? Is it just the one > >question regarding hours of practice? What types of analyses are you > >considering running? Are you just going to do some descriptive analyses >and wanted some >fun data, or are there any questions you are trying to >answer? > > > >Knowing the answers to these questions will do wonders for clarifying > >your potential respondent pool and the phrasing in your survey, and will > >also help other list members give you the best data you can get. Best > >of luck, keep us updated! > >Erin Block >Grad. Student, I/O Psychology >St. Louis, MO > > >William Foss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Dear List >I am in desperate need of more responses! I think that I will now open the >survey to include anyone. No matter how much you practice please contact me >privately or on-list as soon as is possible and give me a rough estimation >of how many hours you practice on a weekly basis, if it isn't too much >trouble. > >Thank you >William Foss > >Paul Ingraham's advice to young horn players: >Find a good teacher. Practice diligently. Watch what you say to your >colleagues. > > >___ >post: horn@music.memphis.edu >unsubscribe or set options at >http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/ireland1006%40sbcglobal.net >___ >post: horn@music.memphis.edu >unsubscribe or set options at >http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/skippy_the_wonderguy%40hotma il.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/joescarpelli%40earthlink.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Another Survey Revision
Thanks for the info! I'm sure that'll help people pass along an answer to you. Erin B. St. Louis, MO William Foss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear List, I am testing my hypothesis that I can get my homework turned in (ha ha). The assignment is to take a sample space of fifty (in my case, horn players) the example was to take 50 small bags of M&Ms and count the number of a certain color in each bag. Or, we could poll a group of fifty people, asking a question with a number for the answer. From there, we measure the central tendency, make a frequency distribution table, pie graph, find variance, standard deviation and then find the intervals of 1,2,3 of the standard deviation. I appreciate the questions that you have for me, they are very similar to those the teacher gave the class to apply to this assignment. I am not really testing any hypothesis, however. The interpretation of the data will not be anything other than "this is approximately how much the average horn player practices." Also, now that I think about it, the title of "serious horn player" was a very poor choice of words. I think that anyone on this list is serious enough to pay attention to the horn world outside of playing is a serious horn person. Some of the people who have sent me results manage to find the time to play, have a life, and have a job all at the same time. I think that that signifies a person who is serious about horn. William Foss Paul Ingraham's advice to young horn players: Find a good teacher. Practice diligently. Watch what you say to your colleagues. >I hate to pester, but I'll take this announcement to repost my earlier >question, as I think it is even more applicable now that responses are >requested from such a wide variety of people: > > >Though I am sure there are greater experts than I out on the list, I'll > >do my duty as a doctoral student in a research program (meaning, I've > >suffered my share of statistics courses) and ask you, William, about > >what exactly you have in mind for your survey. What hypotheses are you > >testing with the survey? Is there anything in particular you are trying >to > >demonstrate or support with the info you gather? Is it just the one > >question regarding hours of practice? What types of analyses are you > >considering running? Are you just going to do some descriptive analyses >and wanted some >fun data, or are there any questions you are trying to >answer? > > > >Knowing the answers to these questions will do wonders for clarifying > >your potential respondent pool and the phrasing in your survey, and will > >also help other list members give you the best data you can get. Best > >of luck, keep us updated! > >Erin Block >Grad. Student, I/O Psychology >St. Louis, MO > > >William Foss wrote: >Dear List >I am in desperate need of more responses! I think that I will now open the >survey to include anyone. No matter how much you practice please contact me >privately or on-list as soon as is possible and give me a rough estimation >of how many hours you practice on a weekly basis, if it isn't too much >trouble. > >Thank you >William Foss > >Paul Ingraham's advice to young horn players: >Find a good teacher. Practice diligently. Watch what you say to your >colleagues. > > >___ >post: horn@music.memphis.edu >unsubscribe or set options at >http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/ireland1006%40sbcglobal.net >___ >post: horn@music.memphis.edu >unsubscribe or set options at >http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/skippy_the_wonderguy%40hotmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/ireland1006%40sbcglobal.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Another Survey Revision
Dear List, I am testing my hypothesis that I can get my homework turned in (ha ha). The assignment is to take a sample space of fifty (in my case, horn players) the example was to take 50 small bags of M&Ms and count the number of a certain color in each bag. Or, we could poll a group of fifty people, asking a question with a number for the answer. From there, we measure the central tendency, make a frequency distribution table, pie graph, find variance, standard deviation and then find the intervals of 1,2,3 of the standard deviation. I appreciate the questions that you have for me, they are very similar to those the teacher gave the class to apply to this assignment. I am not really testing any hypothesis, however. The interpretation of the data will not be anything other than "this is approximately how much the average horn player practices." Also, now that I think about it, the title of "serious horn player" was a very poor choice of words. I think that anyone on this list is serious enough to pay attention to the horn world outside of playing is a serious horn person. Some of the people who have sent me results manage to find the time to play, have a life, and have a job all at the same time. I think that that signifies a person who is serious about horn. William Foss Paul Ingraham's advice to young horn players: Find a good teacher. Practice diligently. Watch what you say to your colleagues. I hate to pester, but I'll take this announcement to repost my earlier question, as I think it is even more applicable now that responses are requested from such a wide variety of people: >Though I am sure there are greater experts than I out on the list, I'll >do my duty as a doctoral student in a research program (meaning, I've >suffered my share of statistics courses) and ask you, William, about >what exactly you have in mind for your survey. What hypotheses are you >testing with the survey? Is there anything in particular you are trying to >demonstrate or support with the info you gather? Is it just the one >question regarding hours of practice? What types of analyses are you >considering running? Are you just going to do some descriptive analyses and wanted some >fun data, or are there any questions you are trying to answer? > >Knowing the answers to these questions will do wonders for clarifying >your potential respondent pool and the phrasing in your survey, and will >also help other list members give you the best data you can get. Best >of luck, keep us updated! Erin Block Grad. Student, I/O Psychology St. Louis, MO William Foss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear List I am in desperate need of more responses! I think that I will now open the survey to include anyone. No matter how much you practice please contact me privately or on-list as soon as is possible and give me a rough estimation of how many hours you practice on a weekly basis, if it isn't too much trouble. Thank you William Foss Paul Ingraham's advice to young horn players: Find a good teacher. Practice diligently. Watch what you say to your colleagues. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/ireland1006%40sbcglobal.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/skippy_the_wonderguy%40hotmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Another Survey Revision
Original Message: - From: William Foss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 20:51:40 + To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Another Survey Revision how many hours you practice on a weekly basis 23.455687 hours average over the last five years and two months. mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Another Survey Revision
I hate to pester, but I'll take this announcement to repost my earlier question, as I think it is even more applicable now that responses are requested from such a wide variety of people: >Though I am sure there are greater experts than I out on the list, I'll >do my duty as a doctoral student in a research program (meaning, I've >suffered my share of statistics courses) and ask you, William, about >what exactly you have in mind for your survey. What hypotheses are you >testing with the survey? Is there anything in particular you are trying to >demonstrate or support with the info you gather? Is it just the one >question regarding hours of practice? What types of analyses are you >considering running? Are you just going to do some descriptive analyses and >wanted some >fun data, or are there any questions you are trying to answer? > >Knowing the answers to these questions will do wonders for clarifying >your potential respondent pool and the phrasing in your survey, and will >also help other list members give you the best data you can get. Best >of luck, keep us updated! Erin Block Grad. Student, I/O Psychology St. Louis, MO William Foss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear List I am in desperate need of more responses! I think that I will now open the survey to include anyone. No matter how much you practice please contact me privately or on-list as soon as is possible and give me a rough estimation of how many hours you practice on a weekly basis, if it isn't too much trouble. Thank you William Foss Paul Ingraham's advice to young horn players: Find a good teacher. Practice diligently. Watch what you say to your colleagues. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/ireland1006%40sbcglobal.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Another Survey Revision
Dear List I am in desperate need of more responses! I think that I will now open the survey to include anyone. No matter how much you practice please contact me privately or on-list as soon as is possible and give me a rough estimation of how many hours you practice on a weekly basis, if it isn't too much trouble. Thank you William Foss Paul Ingraham's advice to young horn players: Find a good teacher. Practice diligently. Watch what you say to your colleagues. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
