[Hornlist] Atkinson Horns
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Re: [Hornlist] Atkinson horns
If your daughter really likes the 8D, try and find a NiSi Chambers model by Reynolds. I've found the Abilene horns are apt to have solder inside that takes the professional edge off their playing, but is easily corrected. Have a good technician run some dent balls through to locate and open any small obstructions. My wife hasn't touched her 8D since I got the Reynolds working well. With the thin metal, the 8D is really inefficient. The extra effort required to balance a strong section means she's always playing exhausted with the 8D. It's amazing how much of the fun goes out of playing when it's such a struggle, and she really didn't recognize the problem until it went away. She also likes the sound better. The Reynolds has a nice 'shimmer' that comes through in her playing, and has been noticed by players around her. That's probably the real benefit of not being exhausted by the instrument. You should be able to get a good Chambers on ebay for less than $600. Tightening the bearings a little is usually all that is needed. The Reynolds will cover all horn parts, so she'll probably know exactly what she wants when she makes the next change. My suggestion is to hang on to the Reynolds for big horn situations, and look around for a smaller, more agile horn to covernon orchestral playing. There are some amazingly good smaller horns at good prices once you take off the requirement of having to cover the big parts with the small horn. With the money I saved using my Reynolds compared to an 8D, I got a lucky deal on a Paxman 42. I can take them both to a gig, and use what's most suitable. Sometimes both are used in the section. Jose Villalobos wrote on 5/29/2004, 1:45 PM: > Just a small word about Atkinson Horns... > > I've owned an Atkinson (A900) for the past year and a half and it's a > really easy horn to play in all registers. Dynamics contrast can be a > little more difficult than on a 9D. Everyone who has played my > Atkinson said that they love how easy it is to get around on. The > kicker is that they're really thin (in comparison) to other horns made > my Holton and CONN...so they will ding up a little easier. So if your > daughter is only 11 you might want something that'll be a little more > sturdy. Price is also a factor. I highly doubt that you want to pay > $5000 for a horn that you child may or may not want to play for a long > time. Atkinsons are a bit on the inexpensive side (yet again in > comparison). My final thought is this... > All horns play different. It's all luck of the draw. So have your > daughter try out different horns until she finds what she likes. > > Jose David Villa-lobos > > > > > Jose D. Villalobos [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > Do you Yahoo!? > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger > ___ > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > set your options at > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/billbamberg%40aol.com > ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Atkinson horns
Just a small word about Atkinson Horns... I've owned an Atkinson (A900) for the past year and a half and it's a really easy horn to play in all registers. Dynamics contrast can be a little more difficult than on a 9D. Everyone who has played my Atkinson said that they love how easy it is to get around on. The kicker is that they're really thin (in comparison) to other horns made my Holton and CONN...so they will ding up a little easier. So if your daughter is only 11 you might want something that'll be a little more sturdy. Price is also a factor. I highly doubt that you want to pay $5000 for a horn that you child may or may not want to play for a long time. Atkinsons are a bit on the inexpensive side (yet again in comparison). My final thought is this... All horns play different. It's all luck of the draw. So have your daughter try out different horns until she finds what she likes. Jose David Villa-lobos Jose D. Villalobos [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Atkinson horns
I would like to agree with this. When auditioning my present 8D, I happened to try a 9D and thought it was one of the most underrated horns I have played ( I also played a 10D and thought it extremely overrated). In my opinion, the 9D is a good choice for a younger player or someone just looking for a smaller throated intrument. A friend of mine suggested that maybe it's the horn Holton has been trying for so long to build. I have played one Atkinson which was a good playing horn with a rather classic Kruspe type sound. It was even better after I was told the price (under $2000). I am told that Atkinson makes several versions at different price levels and the cheaper ones may be somewhat erratic. While I think care should be exercised, my overall impression of the one horn was good. Richard Smith R.G. Smith Music Engraving & Publishing www.rgsmithmusic.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Fred Baucom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Horn List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Atkinson horns > Hello Dan, > I was just at the Calif State Univ-Sacramento Horn Day this last Sunday, and > Mark Atkinson was there with his horns. I tried both that he had there, and > they seemed like nice playing horns. They did not impress me enough to play > them extensively, but perhaps that's just me. What I really wanted to say > was that you might have a look at a Conn 9D, which is a little smaller than > the 8D. I thought this was an excellent instrument...better than the new 8D > the vendor had sitting next to it. Much easier to play and control, but > still with wide dynamic range. Well centered in all ranges. Also, this > could be more appropriate for an 11 year old than the larger 8D type horn. > Fred > > - Original Message - > From: "Daniel Finer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 7:46 AM > Subject: [Hornlist] Atkinson horns > > > > Hello Hornists, > > I've been looking for a double horn for my daughter (age 11), who's been > > playing for about two years. Her band instructor thinks she's ready for a > > double, and an 8D-type horn is high on the list of recommendations (it > seems > > to be inescapable). She's now using an old Elkhart 8D that the school > owns > > (which has several dents and leaks) so she's used to the basic setup. I > ran > > across the Atkinson Brass Company (www.atkinsonhorns.com) website > yesterday, > > and the horns looked very interesting. I haven't seen much discussion of > > them, however, compared to the usual brands (Conn, Holton, Yamaha) in the > > step-up category. How are Atkinson horns received in the general horn > > community, and do you think that such a horn would be appropriate for a > > young player? Any other recommendations are of course welcome. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Dan Finer > > > > _ > > Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® > > Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > > ___ > > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > set your options at > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/fbaucom%40sbcglobal.net > > > > ___ > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/music%40rgsmithmusic.com > ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Atkinson horns
Hello Dan, I was just at the Calif State Univ-Sacramento Horn Day this last Sunday, and Mark Atkinson was there with his horns. I tried both that he had there, and they seemed like nice playing horns. They did not impress me enough to play them extensively, but perhaps that's just me. What I really wanted to say was that you might have a look at a Conn 9D, which is a little smaller than the 8D. I thought this was an excellent instrument...better than the new 8D the vendor had sitting next to it. Much easier to play and control, but still with wide dynamic range. Well centered in all ranges. Also, this could be more appropriate for an 11 year old than the larger 8D type horn. Fred - Original Message - From: "Daniel Finer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 7:46 AM Subject: [Hornlist] Atkinson horns > Hello Hornists, > I've been looking for a double horn for my daughter (age 11), who's been > playing for about two years. Her band instructor thinks she's ready for a > double, and an 8D-type horn is high on the list of recommendations (it seems > to be inescapable). She's now using an old Elkhart 8D that the school owns > (which has several dents and leaks) so she's used to the basic setup. I ran > across the Atkinson Brass Company (www.atkinsonhorns.com) website yesterday, > and the horns looked very interesting. I haven't seen much discussion of > them, however, compared to the usual brands (Conn, Holton, Yamaha) in the > step-up category. How are Atkinson horns received in the general horn > community, and do you think that such a horn would be appropriate for a > young player? Any other recommendations are of course welcome. > > Thanks! > > Dan Finer > > _ > Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® > Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > ___ > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/fbaucom%40sbcglobal.net > ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Atkinson horns
Hello Hornists, I've been looking for a double horn for my daughter (age 11), who's been playing for about two years. Her band instructor thinks she's ready for a double, and an 8D-type horn is high on the list of recommendations (it seems to be inescapable). She's now using an old Elkhart 8D that the school owns (which has several dents and leaks) so she's used to the basic setup. I ran across the Atkinson Brass Company (www.atkinsonhorns.com) website yesterday, and the horns looked very interesting. I haven't seen much discussion of them, however, compared to the usual brands (Conn, Holton, Yamaha) in the step-up category. How are Atkinson horns received in the general horn community, and do you think that such a horn would be appropriate for a young player? Any other recommendations are of course welcome. Thanks! Dan Finer _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Atkinson horns...
> here's my story, 1 year ago I sent my horn to atkinson, the total price >was 2000$ for a bell tail and leadpipe and a bell.pretty outrageous >huh? The work was two weeks late and when I recieved the horn the bell >was crumpled. Since then I've tryed to cooporate with them but everytime >after they've just kind of treated me like an ingrate. Just recently, the >bell parts that the took off the horn I was supposed to get back and they >never shipped with the horn because it was two weeks late and I needed it >overnight..He's got it for sale and my leadpipe as well.my >partsisn't that a funny deal but guess what, he had the nerve to say, >oh, we discounted Mr. Johnsons' repairs and gave him a substantial credit >to the store.but in the end I got charged full price and I still >haven't seen anything from them.not even the parts that are rightfully >mine..I asked him if I could have my money and he >quoted..sorry, things in life aren't freeso, I'm officially on >the Other side and Atkinson brass will never be endorced by me...too >bad to, cuz they have such a good product. It goes to show that >salesmanship means something too.I hope he's reading this > > Hoss ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Atkinson horns
whats up with them? your opinions please, also, looking for a n101 horn kudos for now, hoss ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Atkinson Horns as school instruments
Definitely not. We sold a few of them to schools in the last 2 years and they have been nothing but trouble. Poor quality bracing doesn't stand up to school students. We've had them in and out of the shop umpteen times; have had to send some back to Mark to fix/replace (and waited months to do so). I definitely would NOT recommend a student model Atkinson. (his customizing and mouthpieces are a different story, although the wait time isn't much better) Sonja Reynolds ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Atkinson Horns as school instruments
Hi List, I appreciate all the input. Can anyone tell me more about the Atkinson horns? I have played one once and remember liking it, and they are very affordable. Would the A800 be a good model for a school instrument? I know my director will appreciate all the help he can get in selecting a horn for the school. Thanks Again! -Kipp __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
