Well since I'm probably one of very few if any one the list to have owned one,
I suppose I should respond.
It really was an exceptional horn. It was fairly heavy, but not unresponsive
and I was unable to overblow the instrument. It was great for that sort of
typical schmidt sound. Honestly my ONLY gripe about the playing
characteristics was the piston! The valve they use is larger than all other's
I've seen, so it was a bit too cumbersome and uncomfortable for my small hands.
On the Bill Barnewitz's FunctionLust Cd, he is holding an 863 on the cover.
One of the reasons by teacher bought it at the time was that he felt he could
play louder on it compared to his 867G. The bell size is slightly larger than
the current 667/667V "medium large" size.
As I understand, the design is a direct copy of Dale Clevenger's Schmidt.
I thought the B-flat was was a pretty good note actually.
That price is steal!! I had people offering me $4500, and another offered
to outbid when I sold mine. It's hard to find much info about them because
there were less than. I think it might be sold by now, but Ken Pope had one
for $5500 and there is one at Osmun, that looks almost identical to my former
horn(Lawson finger dimes), that is $5000.
Strangely enough, when I bought mine, the seller had trouble selling it and
ended up giving me a good deal, but when I put mine up for sale, I got a lot of
responses. More than the horn I'm selling now, hint hint hint!
Heck, if I could afford it, I'd be buy it for $3200 and email the people who
made offers on my horn.
863's come up for sale pretty rarely, which I think is a sign of their quality,
among other reasons obviously. Bill Barnewitz played on one as did my teacher
in undergrad. My teacher sold his, but I heard from a friend at NW that Mr.
Barnewitz still plays on it sometimes. My undergrad teacher sold his to a
student because he was playing his triple pretty much all the time. I think
Mr. Barnewitz did his FunctionLust cd on the 863. Sounds fantastic either way.
Buy it before I sell my car and buy it!
Chris
--- Ray & Sonja Crenshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Since there's not much going on here on the list, and since this is going on
> over at
> e-Bay:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7317410797
>
> ...I'd like to take this opportunity to inquire about the innate goodness of
> these horns.
>
> For those too jaded to follow the link, it's a YHR-863, Yamaha's version of a
> Schmidt
> piston-change valve double. I remember seeing these in a Yamaha brochure back
> in the early
> 90's but I've never actually seen a real one.
>
> This one on e-Bay has been listed at least three times (possibly more, I
> don't know) and
> has gone, not only unsold, but unbid-upon. I saw it was $3,500 USD with no
> bids, then
> $3,200 and no bids, and now it's listed at $3,000 and six days left to do
> business. The
> BUY-IT-NOW price has always been $3,500.
>
> Q: Considered on their own terms, how do these horns play?
>
> Q: Compared to a real Schmidt, how do these horns play? How's the high Bb?
> Did Yamaha's
> acoustic engineers succeed in replicating the "burr" (Dave Krehbiel's term)
> on this note?
>
> Q: Do these horns project? ...or do they just make pretty--but local--noise?
>
> And no, I'm not going to bid on it. It's just curiosity on my part. I won't
> be driving out
> to Bellevue, Washington to try it out, so I'm asking for a "virtual trial" on
> the list
> here. If you've owned or played one, I'm interested in hearing from you.
>
> jrc in SC
>
>
>
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