[Hornlist] Green-horn Questions

2006-03-05 Thread Seth Urbach
Hello all,
  
 I am trying to pick up playing the horn again  after being in college for 4 
years. I played for 5 years, in middle and  high school, but I am still kind of 
a greenhorn ( pardon the pun ;) I  was hoping someone could answer a couple 
of questions I have. 
  
  First, I never learned any of the science behind picking a mouthpiece.  Does 
anyone know of a good website or other resource where I can learn  the types, 
differences, benefits, and pitfalls of horn mouthpieces? I  have always just 
played with the mouthpiece that came with the horn the  school loaned me. I 
would like to know what makes mouthpieces different  from each other.
  
  Second, a local shop has found a used double horn for me that I am thinking 
of getting. It is a Getzen Elkhorn, Serial Number 02767, 
  It has:
157, 158, 159 stamped on the valves and valve caps
  56 stamped on the Bb valve and valve cap
  56 stamped on the keys
  I do not know what these numbers are for, maybe replacement part numbers?
  Something unique about it, I thought, was that all of the rotors have  
mechanical linkage to the keys; there are no strings for rotating the  valves.
  It is a Kruspe style wrap horn.
  It comes with a Reynolds-Pottag Model 6A Mouthpiece.

  It has dents and lacquer missing, but plays fine, to the store's and my  
knowledge. Does anyone have any comments to make on such a horn?

  Third,  I am hoping to play with my church worship band. I live in Oregon. 
Does  anyone know of a good resource for finding Worship Sheet Music? Will I  
most likely need to transpose from another instrument for a majority of  songs?
  
  
  Thank you in advance for any help you are able to provide me.
  
  Seth Urbach
  

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Re: [Hornlist] Green-horn Questions

2006-03-05 Thread Alan Cole
Be careful of those Blessing-Getzen compensating double horns -- the ones 
that look like this:


http://i16.ebayimg.com/04/i/06/5e/d5/b1_1_b.JPG

They might be perfectly fine horns -- if you could grip them comfortably 
with the left hand.  But the way the tubes radiate out of the 
thumb-operated change valve prevents the player's left thumb from going as 
far forward as it needs to for comfort.


When I tried playing 1 of those some years back I had to hold my left thumb 
back so far, with just the ball of the thumb on the valve lever, that I 
declared that model of horn unplayable.  Too bad.  Those horns might be 
perfectly fine -- acoustically -- as far as intonation, sound quality,  
all those other things are concerned.  But if you can't hold 1 comfortably 
in playing position, then all those other factors go for naught.


Try the horn for yourself.  If you can hold it comfortably, then maybe you 
might be able to play it OK  find out on the basis of your own experience 
whether it sounds good, plays in tune, responds well, has nice resistance 
(not too much, not too little), etc.


Or, if you really like how the horn plays  still have trouble with that 
problem of a seriously uncomfortable left-hand position on the horn, maybe 
a duck foot or palm-strap or some helpful accessory like that would remedy 
the problem, I don't know.  However that may be, there are so many 
good-playing  comfortable horns out there -- full doubles  compensating 
doubles -- that I don't even bother with Blessing-Getzen compensating horns 
 other similar instruments I have discovered to be unplayable.


-- Alan Cole, rank amateur
   McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.
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Second, a local shop has found a used double horn for me that I am thinking 
of getting. It is a Getzen Elkhorn, Serial Number 02767,

  It has:
157, 158, 159 stamped on the valves and valve caps
  56 stamped on the Bb valve and valve cap
  56 stamped on the keys
  I do not know what these numbers are for, maybe replacement part numbers?
  Something unique about it, I thought, was that all of the rotors 
have  mechanical linkage to the keys; there are no strings for rotating 
the  valves.

  It is a Kruspe style wrap horn.
  It comes with a Reynolds-Pottag Model 6A Mouthpiece.

  It has dents and lacquer missing, but plays fine, to the store's and 
my  knowledge. Does anyone have any comments to make on such a horn?





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Re: [Hornlist] Green-horn Questions

2006-03-05 Thread Fred Baucom

Hi Seth,

Since you are just getting into mouthpieces, a good place to start is the 
first chapter of Philip Farkas' book, The Art of French Horn Playing. 
This book is a gold mine of basic information about all facets related to 
horn.  Retails for $15.  In fact, this is your lucky day - the 'excerpt' 
provided on Amazon for this book is the mouthpiece chapter:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0874870216/ref=sib_dp_pt/103-0667743-2244626#reader-link

This is a bit technical, but an excellent resource: 
http://www.lawsonhorns.com/mouthpieces.htm


Fred

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Hello all,

I am trying to pick up playing the horn again  after being in college for 
4 years. I played for 5 years, in middle and  high school, but I am still 
kind of a greenhorn ( pardon the pun ;) I  was hoping someone could 
answer a couple of questions I have.


 First, I never learned any of the science behind picking a mouthpiece. 
Does anyone know of a good website or other resource where I can learn 
the types, differences, benefits, and pitfalls of horn mouthpieces? I 
have always just played with the mouthpiece that came with the horn the 
school loaned me. I would like to know what makes mouthpieces different 
from each other.


 Second, a local shop has found a used double horn for me that I am 
thinking of getting. It is a Getzen Elkhorn, Serial Number 02767,

 It has:
157, 158, 159 stamped on the valves and valve caps
 56 stamped on the Bb valve and valve cap
 56 stamped on the keys
 I do not know what these numbers are for, maybe replacement part numbers?
 Something unique about it, I thought, was that all of the rotors have 
mechanical linkage to the keys; there are no strings for rotating the 
valves.

 It is a Kruspe style wrap horn.
 It comes with a Reynolds-Pottag Model 6A Mouthpiece.

 It has dents and lacquer missing, but plays fine, to the store's and my 
knowledge. Does anyone have any comments to make on such a horn?


 Third,  I am hoping to play with my church worship band. I live in 
Oregon. Does  anyone know of a good resource for finding Worship Sheet 
Music? Will I  most likely need to transpose from another instrument for a 
majority of  songs?



 Thank you in advance for any help you are able to provide me.

 Seth Urbach


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RE: [Hornlist] Green-horn Questions

2006-03-05 Thread Hans.Pizka
Hello Seth, the numbers have the unique purpose to remind
you which cap to screw on which valve. If there is a
mechanical linkage (like uniball), there is no need for
strings.

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Hello all,
  
 I am trying to pick up playing the horn again  after being
in college for 4 years. I played for 5 years, in middle and
high school, but I am still kind of a greenhorn ( pardon
the pun ;) I  was hoping someone could answer a couple of
questions I have. 
  
  First, I never learned any of the science behind picking a
mouthpiece.  Does anyone know of a good website or other
resource where I can learn  the types, differences,
benefits, and pitfalls of horn mouthpieces? I  have always
just played with the mouthpiece that came with the horn the
school loaned me. I would like to know what makes
mouthpieces different  from each other.
  
  Second, a local shop has found a used double horn for me
that I am thinking of getting. It is a Getzen Elkhorn,
Serial Number 02767,
  It has:
157, 158, 159 stamped on the valves and valve caps
  56 stamped on the Bb valve and valve cap
  56 stamped on the keys
  I do not know what these numbers are for, maybe
replacement part numbers?
  Something unique about it, I thought, was that all of the
rotors have  mechanical linkage to the keys; there are no
strings for rotating the  valves.
  It is a Kruspe style wrap horn.
  It comes with a Reynolds-Pottag Model 6A Mouthpiece.

  It has dents and lacquer missing, but plays fine, to the
store's and my  knowledge. Does anyone have any comments to
make on such a horn?

  Third,  I am hoping to play with my church worship band. I
live in Oregon. Does  anyone know of a good resource for
finding Worship Sheet Music? Will I  most likely need to
transpose from another instrument for a majority of  songs?
  
  
  Thank you in advance for any help you are able to provide
me.
  
  Seth Urbach
  

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