RE: [Hornlist] Open throat
: WHO WOULD KNOW OUGHT (AUGHT/NAUGHT) OF ART MUST LEARN, AND THEN TAKE HIS EASE Should it not be "take his easel"? All the best, Lawrence "þaes ofereode - þisses swa maeg" Yes, well, hmm...concession to the draftsman. Shel http://lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/skirshner%40ameritech.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Open throat
In a message dated 10/04/2005 22:29:48 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WHO WOULD KNOW OUGHT OF ART MUST LEARN, AND THEN TAKE HIS EASE Should it not be "take his easel"? All the best, Lawrence "þaes ofereode - þisses swa maeg" http://lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Open throat
or, WHO WOULD KNOW NAUGHT OF ART... sHEL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Mansur Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 2:00 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Open throat On Sunday, April 10, 2005, at 01:41 PM, Ralph Mazza wrote: > A choir teacher of many years ago gave us the following sentence, in > which the vowel sounds move through a progression similar to that > indicated above by Steve: > "WHO WOULD KNOW OUGHT OF ART MUST LEARN, AND THEN TAKE HIS EASE." Wouldn't that be: "WHO WOULD KNOW AUGHT OF ART MUST LEARN, AND THEN TAKE HIS EASE?" That, of course, might be debatable. Paul Mansur ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/skirshner%40ameritech.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Open throat
On Sunday, April 10, 2005, at 01:41 PM, Ralph Mazza wrote: A choir teacher of many years ago gave us the following sentence, in which the vowel sounds move through a progression similar to that indicated above by Steve: "WHO WOULD KNOW OUGHT OF ART MUST LEARN, AND THEN TAKE HIS EASE." Wouldn't that be: "WHO WOULD KNOW AUGHT OF ART MUST LEARN, AND THEN TAKE HIS EASE?" That, of course, might be debatable. Paul Mansur ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Open throat
[EMAIL PROTECTED] asked: What is is good vowel to say to open the throat? [EMAIL PROTECTED] replied: Short "a", as in "father," then added: For "ah" the mouth is also wide open and the tongue flat. Gradually raising the tongue causes "ah" to become "a" as it "cat", then "eh", a sound which doesn't really exist in English and is instead usually mangled into what's known as a vanishing diphthong, followed by "i" as in "hit" and finally ending in "ee" as in "feet." Closing the mouth changes "ah" into "aw", then "oh", another sound not really present in spoken English, then finally "oo" as in "boot." A choir teacher of many years ago gave us the following sentence, in which the vowel sounds move through a progression similar to that indicated above by Steve: "WHO WOULD KNOW OUGHT OF ART MUST LEARN, AND THEN TAKE HIS EASE." ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Open Throat
The text for Beethoven's 9th was written by Schiller, the famous 19th century poet; not by Goethe. - Original Message - From: "Steve Freides" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'The Horn List'" Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 8:55 PM Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Open Throat > Short "a", as in "father." > > When singing, ideally the throat is open for all vowels. > > For "ah" the mouth is also wide open and the tongue flat. Gradually raising > the tongue causes "ah" to become "a" as it "cat", then "eh", a sound which > doesn't really exist in English and is instead usually mangled into what's > known as a vanishing diphthong, followed by "i" as in "hit" and finally > ending in "ee" as in "feet." > > Closing the mouth changes "ah" into "aw", then "oh", another sound not > really present in spoken English, then finally "oo" as in "boot." > > In languages other than American English, some combinations of a raised > tongue and a closed mouth may be found, e.g., Goethe (properly written with > an umlaut 'o' which I don't know how to do on my American keyboard), "u" > with an umlaut as in the German word for "brother," most famously remembered > by me as part of Goethe's text in Beethoven's Ninth Symphony's final > movement. > > Lest the most important concept be lost in the diction soliloquy above, let > me repeat: When singing, ideally the throat is open for all vowels. > > -S- > > > -Original Message- > > From: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > du] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 7:35 PM > > To: horn@music.memphis.edu > > Subject: [Hornlist] Open Throat > > > > What is is good vowel to say to open the throat? > > ___ > > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > > unsubscribe or set options at > > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/steve%40fridaysc > > omputer.com > > > > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/dennisbrainchild%40earthlink.n et ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Open Throat
Actually Brüder is the plural "brothers." It's hard for English speakers to keep the throat open while saying "ee". Say "ah" like you do for the doctor while your throat is being looked at. You can tell if your throat is open while playing by using a mirror and looking at your Adam's apple or larynx. It should stay down. Old singer's trick. Herb Foster --- Steve Freides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Short "a", as in "father." > > When singing, ideally the throat is open for all vowels. > > For "ah" the mouth is also wide open and the tongue flat. Gradually raising > the tongue causes "ah" to become "a" as it "cat", then "eh", a sound which > doesn't really exist in English and is instead usually mangled into what's > known as a vanishing diphthong, followed by "i" as in "hit" and finally > ending in "ee" as in "feet." > > Closing the mouth changes "ah" into "aw", then "oh", another sound not > really present in spoken English, then finally "oo" as in "boot." > > In languages other than American English, some combinations of a raised > tongue and a closed mouth may be found, e.g., Goethe (properly written with > an umlaut 'o' which I don't know how to do on my American keyboard), "u" > with an umlaut as in the German word for "brother," most famously remembered > by me as part of Goethe's text in Beethoven's Ninth Symphony's final > movement. > > Lest the most important concept be lost in the diction soliloquy above, let > me repeat: When singing, ideally the throat is open for all vowels. > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: RE: [Hornlist] Open Throat
The syllables most commonly taught are "ah," "oh," or "ooh" for an open and less restricted airway. Translated into articulation, this means attacking a note with tah, toh, or too. I was just thumbing through the book on Arnold Jacobs by Brian Frederikson and this is what Jacobs (among others) recommended. Steven Slaff - Original Message - From: Steve Freides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Saturday, April 9, 2005 8:55 pm Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Open Throat > Short "a", as in "father." > > When singing, ideally the throat is open for all vowels. > > For "ah" the mouth is also wide open and the tongue flat. > Gradually raising > the tongue causes "ah" to become "a" as it "cat", then "eh", a > sound which > doesn't really exist in English and is instead usually mangled > into what's > known as a vanishing diphthong, followed by "i" as in "hit" and > finallyending in "ee" as in "feet." > > Closing the mouth changes "ah" into "aw", then "oh", another sound not > really present in spoken English, then finally "oo" as in "boot." > > In languages other than American English, some combinations of a > raisedtongue and a closed mouth may be found, e.g., Goethe > (properly written with > an umlaut 'o' which I don't know how to do on my American > keyboard), "u" > with an umlaut as in the German word for "brother," most famously > rememberedby me as part of Goethe's text in Beethoven's Ninth > Symphony's final > movement. > > Lest the most important concept be lost in the diction soliloquy > above, let > me repeat: When singing, ideally the throat is open for all vowels. > > -S- > > > -Original Message- > > From: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > du] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 7:35 PM > > To: horn@music.memphis.edu > > Subject: [Hornlist] Open Throat > > > > What is is good vowel to say to open the throat? > > ___ > > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > > unsubscribe or set options at > > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/steve%40fridaysc > > omputer.com > > > > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/steven.slaff%40oberlin.edu ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Open Throat
Short "a", as in "father." When singing, ideally the throat is open for all vowels. For "ah" the mouth is also wide open and the tongue flat. Gradually raising the tongue causes "ah" to become "a" as it "cat", then "eh", a sound which doesn't really exist in English and is instead usually mangled into what's known as a vanishing diphthong, followed by "i" as in "hit" and finally ending in "ee" as in "feet." Closing the mouth changes "ah" into "aw", then "oh", another sound not really present in spoken English, then finally "oo" as in "boot." In languages other than American English, some combinations of a raised tongue and a closed mouth may be found, e.g., Goethe (properly written with an umlaut 'o' which I don't know how to do on my American keyboard), "u" with an umlaut as in the German word for "brother," most famously remembered by me as part of Goethe's text in Beethoven's Ninth Symphony's final movement. Lest the most important concept be lost in the diction soliloquy above, let me repeat: When singing, ideally the throat is open for all vowels. -S- > -----Original Message- > From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > du] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 7:35 PM > To: horn@music.memphis.edu > Subject: [Hornlist] Open Throat > > What is is good vowel to say to open the throat? > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/steve%40fridaysc > omputer.com > ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Open Throat
At 8:35 PM -0400 4/9/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >What is is good vowel to say to open the throat? A? Altoids? Carlberg Jones Guanajuato, Gto. MEXICO ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Open Throat
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