Re: [Hornlist] Re: Mouthpiece buzzing
Old saying: Why do bees buzz? You'd buzz too if somebody stole your honey and necked 'er. Gotta go, Richard Hirsh, not Cabbage ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: mouthpiece buzzing
On Aug 9, 2007, at 10:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: message: 4 date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:02:31 -0700 from: "Valerie WELLS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> subject: [Hornlist] Re: Mouthpiece buzzing Being a little on the obtuse side, I resisted the whole notion of buzzing, because I just couldn't see the point. I had the privilege to have a lesson w/ Wendell Rider in July & he took me thru the paces with buzzing the mouthpiece using air only to gently slide, glissando style up and down a step or two from second line G. Nothing big, dramatic, just slowly & gently up & down with air while resisting the urge to "lip it." I was "fuzzy" on why I was doing it, but I've persisted with the hope that I'd eventually grasp the concept. It's been a month now that I've spent just a few minutes a day buzzing & I'm starting to see, feel & hear benefits from it. It helping me get the "feel" of finer control of the air stream & it's effect on pitch & tone. I tend to be too "lippy" & the gentle slow buzzing using only air to raise & lower the pitch gives me another tool to develop better tone. Hmmm Does this make sense to anyone? ~Valerie, balanced embouchure student Hey Valerie and all, Just to be clear, i did not recommend using the air only to change notes once you get the concept. That can be instructive initially, but what I said to practice was to find the balance of lip tension and air speed to keep the buzzy tone at all times and use the air to keep the tone steady. The sound of the buzz is the important thing. Otherwise Valerie's comments are right on target. Sound is always the most important thing. If i was blind i could still teach what i do because you can hear what is going on, or what isn't. Sincerely, Wendell Rider For information about my book, "Real World Horn Playing", the DVD and Regular and Internet Horn Lessons go to my website: http:// www.wendellworld.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re: Mouthpiece buzzing
That makes sense to me. I'm confused mostly about tongue placement in the lower register. One teacher keeps telling me to raise my tongue for crisper articulation that is on top of the beat. My tuba playing colleague thinks the tongue should be lower to create a more open sound I guess...When I tongue this way I consistently end up behind, but the sound quality seems to be more tuba like. I finally ended up lowering my tongue in the back of my throat, but raising the tip of it to reach a happy medium. I still get confused sometimes though. On 8/8/07, Valerie WELLS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Being a little on the obtuse side, I resisted the whole notion of buzzing, > because I just couldn't see the point. I had the privilege to have a lesson > w/ Wendell Rider in July & he took me thru the paces with buzzing the > mouthpiece using air only to gently slide, glissando style up and down a > step or two from second line G. Nothing big, dramatic, just slowly & gently > up & down with air while resisting the urge to "lip it." I was "fuzzy" on > why I was doing it, but I've persisted with the hope that I'd eventually > grasp the concept. It's been a month now that I've spent just a few minutes > a day buzzing & I'm starting to see, feel & hear benefits from it. It > helping me get the "feel" of finer control of the air stream & it's effect > on pitch & tone. I tend to be too "lippy" & the gentle slow buzzing using > only air to raise & lower the pitch gives me another tool to develop better > tone. Hmmm Does this make sense to anyone? ~Valerie, balanced > embouchure student > > > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/sallym.of.mclaurin%40gmail.com > ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Mouthpiece buzzing
Being a little on the obtuse side, I resisted the whole notion of buzzing, because I just couldn't see the point. I had the privilege to have a lesson w/ Wendell Rider in July & he took me thru the paces with buzzing the mouthpiece using air only to gently slide, glissando style up and down a step or two from second line G. Nothing big, dramatic, just slowly & gently up & down with air while resisting the urge to "lip it." I was "fuzzy" on why I was doing it, but I've persisted with the hope that I'd eventually grasp the concept. It's been a month now that I've spent just a few minutes a day buzzing & I'm starting to see, feel & hear benefits from it. It helping me get the "feel" of finer control of the air stream & it's effect on pitch & tone. I tend to be too "lippy" & the gentle slow buzzing using only air to raise & lower the pitch gives me another tool to develop better tone. Hmmm Does this make sense to anyone? ~Valerie, balanced embouchure student ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Mouthpiece Buzzing
Hi Scott Hartman & all. Responding to: Speaking of Richard Burdick, he recently advocated "no mouthpiece buzzing" in a mail to this group, and I think he's said this before so must feel pretty decisive about this. Why is this, Richard? Okay. I think everybody should be able to buzz on the mouthpiece and without the mouthpiece but then dont do it, unless you have a really bad cold. Try this exercise: Buzz on the mouthpiece then play a long note in the middle range and listen to the tone quality. Then do some of Brophys pitch bending exercises that will help open up your aperture. The easiest excecise is play the F below middle C on the Bb horn and bend it slowly down to E and back, then down to Eb and back, to D and try for Db & C. THEN try the same long note in the middle range and listen to the tone quality. The relaxation that has occurred from the pitch bending translates into a better sound quality for me! The buzzing tightens and decreases my endurance & sound quality. But I love a good buzz in a trombone sound. Richard Burdick 1st Horn Regina Symphony Orchestra in Snowy Regina Saskatchewan Canada P. S. Theladers Beethovens score: 1 hate & 2 likes. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
