Re: [Hornlist] Re: Mouthpiece buzzing

2007-08-10 Thread Richard
Old saying: Why do bees buzz? You'd buzz too if somebody stole your 
honey and necked 'er.


Gotta go,
Richard Hirsh, not Cabbage
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[Hornlist] Re: mouthpiece buzzing

2007-08-09 Thread Wendell Rider


On Aug 9, 2007, at 10:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


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date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:02:31 -0700
from: Valerie WELLS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
subject: [Hornlist] Re: Mouthpiece buzzing

Being a little on the obtuse side, I resisted the whole notion of  
buzzing,
because I just couldn't see the point.  I had the privilege to have  
a lesson

w/ Wendell Rider in July  he took me thru the paces with buzzing the
mouthpiece using air only to gently slide, glissando style up and  
down a
step or two from second line G.  Nothing big, dramatic, just slowly  
 gently
up  down with air while resisting the urge to lip it.  I was  
fuzzy on
why I was doing it, but I've persisted with the hope that I'd  
eventually
grasp the concept.  It's been a month now that I've spent just a  
few minutes

a day buzzing  I'm starting to see, feel  hear benefits from it.  It
helping me get the feel of finer control of the air stream  it's  
effect
on pitch  tone.  I tend to be too lippy  the gentle slow  
buzzing using
only air to raise  lower the pitch gives me another tool to  
develop better

tone.  Hmmm  Does this make sense to anyone?   ~Valerie, balanced
embouchure student


Hey Valerie and all,
Just to be clear, i did not recommend using the air only to change  
notes once you get the concept. That can be instructive initially,  
but what I said to practice was to find the balance of lip tension  
and air speed to keep the buzzy tone at all times and use the air to  
keep the tone steady. The sound of the buzz is the important thing.  
Otherwise Valerie's comments are right on target.
Sound is always the most important thing. If i was blind i could  
still teach what i do because you can hear what is going on, or what  
isn't.

Sincerely,
Wendell Rider
For information about my book, Real World Horn Playing, the DVD and  
Regular and Internet Horn Lessons go to my website: http:// 
www.wendellworld.com



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[Hornlist] Re: Mouthpiece buzzing

2007-08-08 Thread Valerie WELLS
Being a little on the obtuse side, I resisted the whole notion of buzzing, 
because I just couldn't see the point.  I had the privilege to have a lesson 
w/ Wendell Rider in July  he took me thru the paces with buzzing the 
mouthpiece using air only to gently slide, glissando style up and down a 
step or two from second line G.  Nothing big, dramatic, just slowly  gently 
up  down with air while resisting the urge to lip it.  I was fuzzy on 
why I was doing it, but I've persisted with the hope that I'd eventually 
grasp the concept.  It's been a month now that I've spent just a few minutes 
a day buzzing  I'm starting to see, feel  hear benefits from it.  It 
helping me get the feel of finer control of the air stream  it's effect 
on pitch  tone.  I tend to be too lippy  the gentle slow buzzing using 
only air to raise  lower the pitch gives me another tool to develop better 
tone.  Hmmm  Does this make sense to anyone?   ~Valerie, balanced 
embouchure student



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Re: [Hornlist] Re: Mouthpiece buzzing

2007-08-08 Thread Reba McLaurin
That makes sense to me.  I'm confused mostly about tongue placement in
the lower register.  One teacher keeps telling me to raise my tongue
for crisper articulation that is on top of the beat.  My tuba playing
colleague thinks the tongue should be lower to create a more open
sound I guess...When I tongue this way I consistently end up behind,
but the sound quality seems to be more tuba like.  I finally ended up
lowering my tongue in the back of my throat, but raising the tip of it
to reach a happy medium.  I still get confused sometimes though.

On 8/8/07, Valerie WELLS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Being a little on the obtuse side, I resisted the whole notion of buzzing,
 because I just couldn't see the point.  I had the privilege to have a lesson
 w/ Wendell Rider in July  he took me thru the paces with buzzing the
 mouthpiece using air only to gently slide, glissando style up and down a
 step or two from second line G.  Nothing big, dramatic, just slowly  gently
 up  down with air while resisting the urge to lip it.  I was fuzzy on
 why I was doing it, but I've persisted with the hope that I'd eventually
 grasp the concept.  It's been a month now that I've spent just a few minutes
 a day buzzing  I'm starting to see, feel  hear benefits from it.  It
 helping me get the feel of finer control of the air stream  it's effect
 on pitch  tone.  I tend to be too lippy  the gentle slow buzzing using
 only air to raise  lower the pitch gives me another tool to develop better
 tone.  Hmmm  Does this make sense to anyone?   ~Valerie, balanced
 embouchure student


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[Hornlist] Re: Mouthpiece Buzzing

2004-10-20 Thread rob
Hi Scott Hartman  all. 

Responding to:
“Speaking of Richard Burdick, he recently advocated no mouthpiece buzzing 
in a mail to this group, and I think he's said this before so must feel 
pretty decisive about this.  Why is this, Richard? “ 

Okay. I think everybody should be able to buzz on the mouthpiece and without 
the mouthpiece but then don’t do it, unless you have a really bad cold. 

Try this exercise: 

Buzz on the mouthpiece then play a long note in the middle range and listen 
to the tone quality. Then do some of Brophy’s pitch bending exercises that 
will help open up your aperture. The easiest excecise is play the F below 
middle C on the Bb horn and bend it slowly down to E and back, then down to 
Eb and back, to D and try for Db  C. THEN try the same long note in the 
middle range and listen to the tone quality. The relaxation that has 
occurred from the pitch bending translates into a better sound quality for 
me! The buzzing tightens and decreases my endurance  sound quality. But I 
love a good buzz in a trombone sound. 

Richard Burdick
1st Horn Regina Symphony Orchestra
in Snowy Regina Saskatchewan Canada 

P. S. Theladers Beethoven’s score: 1 hate  2 likes. 

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