RE: [Hornlist] Trick question
Amen. And if you can get the video it's even funnier because you can see what she is doing. Loren Mayhew \@() [EMAIL PROTECTED] (520) 403-6897 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Herbert Foster Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:19 AM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Trick question No matter what your age, I highly recommend two of Anna Russel's CDs. One has "The Horn" quoted here. Very funny. Another CD has the complete Ring cycle done in 5 minutes, accurately. Don't listen to it the first time while you're driving, you might lose control. Herb Foster --- Bill Gross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Those of us in the know were taught by Anna Russel, "it isn't what you think > it is, it's condenstion." Thereby dating myself. > ... __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
Re: [Hornlist] Trick question
No matter what your age, I highly recommend two of Anna Russel's CDs. One has "The Horn" quoted here. Very funny. Another CD has the complete Ring cycle done in 5 minutes, accurately. Don't listen to it the first time while you're driving, you might lose control. Herb Foster --- Bill Gross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Those of us in the know were taught by Anna Russel, "it isn't what you think > it is, it's condenstion." Thereby dating myself. > ... __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
RE: [Hornlist] Trick question
It's an aqua-dike. Loren Mayhew \@() [EMAIL PROTECTED] (520) 403-6897 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Alan Cole Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 4:58 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Trick question Maybe next it'll be the Condensation Conduit. -AC. ~ When I was in school it was a spit valve ... then, during my working years it was a water key. Now it's a drool outlet. ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
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Maybe next it'll be the Condensation Conduit. -AC. ~ When I was in school it was a spit valve ... then, during my working years it was a water key. Now it's a drool outlet. ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
Re: [Hornlist] Trick question
I propose a more neutral, politically correct and more technical name, so as not to offend anyone. How about: Saliva/Condensate Elimination Gateway Apparatus. Or, 'SEGA' for short. Regards, Bob Dickow Lionel Hampton School of Music - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > When I was in school it was a spit valve ... then, during my > working years it was a water key. Now it's a > drool outlet. ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
Re: [Hornlist] Trick question
In a message dated 1/13/2003 12:13:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > If it's not spit, how come some horns are equipped with spit valves? > > -- Alan Cole, rank amateur > McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. When I was in school it was a spit valve ... then, during my working years it was a water key. Now it's a drool outlet. Regards,Kimchi in Kansas City ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
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Careful now or you'll be visited by an Italian Cabbage "making you an offer you can't refuse." - Original Message - From: "Alan Cole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Horn List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Trick question > I try not to date myself. I'd rather go out with other people. -AC. > > Those of us in the know were taught by Anna Russel, "it isn't what you > think it is, it's condenstion." Thereby dating myself. > > ___ > Horn mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
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I try not to date myself. I'd rather go out with other people. -AC. Those of us in the know were taught by Anna Russel, "it isn't what you think it is, it's condenstion." Thereby dating myself. ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
Re: [Hornlist] Trick question
Spit STOPS at the leadpipe though :P It sticks to the edges.
I clean my leadpipe out every week or so btw.
Now as to the spit question. Spit gets just as far as the front part of the
leadpipe and usually stops.
I don't know about you, but I never was able to spit more than a foot, much
less 33 or so feet :)
-William
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> > Its condensation allright. On a bet, I collected about two days worth of
> it
> > into a little jar to prove that it wasn't spit.
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> > What I ended up was just a jar of oily water :) And to prove it wasn't
> spit,
> > well its easy. Spit has a distintive odor to it and I guarantee you if
> you
> > leave it out for a little while it'll cake up a little, just like the
> tiny
> > white flakes you can get on your mouthpiece.
>
> Something is wrong with this picture - if flakes constitute evidence of
> spit, and spit-flakes get as far as the mouthpiece, then spit will get
> into the leadpipe also. You probably won't see flakes there because if
> you play regularly, the leadpipe never dries out. What's that ooblek that
> your snake-brush pushes out of your leadpipe?
>
> Uh, bon appetit.
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On Mon, 13 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Its condensation allright. On a bet, I collected about two days worth of it
> into a little jar to prove that it wasn't spit.
>
> What I ended up was just a jar of oily water :) And to prove it wasn't spit,
> well its easy. Spit has a distintive odor to it and I guarantee you if you
> leave it out for a little while it'll cake up a little, just like the tiny
> white flakes you can get on your mouthpiece.
Something is wrong with this picture - if flakes constitute evidence of
spit, and spit-flakes get as far as the mouthpiece, then spit will get
into the leadpipe also. You probably won't see flakes there because if
you play regularly, the leadpipe never dries out. What's that ooblek that
your snake-brush pushes out of your leadpipe?
Uh, bon appetit.
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Re: [Hornlist] Trick question
Those of us in the know were taught by Anna Russel, "it isn't what you think it is, it's condenstion." Thereby dating myself. - Original Message - From: "Alan Cole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Horn List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Trick question > If it's not spit, how come some horns are equipped with spit valves? > > -- Alan Cole, rank amateur > McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. > ~~~ > Now, as we are all taught, it is not spit, it is CONDENSATION that collects > in the horn. > > ___ > Horn mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
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If it's not spit, how come some horns are equipped with spit valves? -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. ~~~ Now, as we are all taught, it is not spit, it is CONDENSATION that collects in the horn. ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
RE: [Hornlist] Trick question
Fred wrote: At 10:57 AM 1/13/2003 -0800, you wrote: Okkk...now can we get back to the weather in Iowa? Sure thing. It's cold today with a chance of flurries ;) Amy ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
RE: [Hornlist] Trick question
Okkk...now can we get back to the weather in Iowa? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 10:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Trick question Its condensation allright. On a bet, I collected about two days worth of it into a little jar to prove that it wasn't spit. What I ended up was just a jar of oily water :) And to prove it wasn't spit, well its easy. Spit has a distintive odor to it and I guarantee you if you leave it out for a little while it'll cake up a little, just like the tiny white flakes you can get on your mouthpiece. This just evaporated a little, leaving behind an oily residue. And, there was no odor apart from the faint hint of valve oil. -William In a message dated 1/13/2003 9:51:00 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Subj:Re: [Hornlist] Trick question > Date:1/13/2003 9:51:00 AM Pacific Standard Time > From:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Reply-to:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > To:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent from the Internet > > > > Now, as we are all taught, it is not spit, it is CONDENSATION that collects > in > the horn. Actually, most of it is indeed condensation. When you consider > what > the alcohol content in the condensate must be to significantly depress the > freezing point, it staggers me (literally) to think of the amount of > alcohol > one must consume. > > Herb Foster > --- David Goldberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, 12 Jan 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > ... > > I'll guess that your horn *is* affected by wind chill because you are > part > > of the system when you play it. If there is no wind, then heat takes > > longer to dissipate. In particular, as you play your horn in freezing > > temperature and no wind, it takes longer for the water in the leadpipe to > > freeze. As the wind increases, you would have to play faster or louder - > > blow more (warm) air into it - to keep the tube from sealing up with > > frozen spit. Better you should have the flu if you have to play in a > > freezing wind - a high fever - your extra hot spit might get you through > > the piece. Or you might prepare by ingesting sufficient alcohol so that > > the liquid that enters your leadpipe resembles antifreeze. And playing > > low notes will help as the expansion is less than for high notes, so less > > heat is lost at the end of the mouthpiece. > > ... > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > ___ > Horn mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn > ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
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Its condensation allright. On a bet, I collected about two days worth of it into a little jar to prove that it wasn't spit. What I ended up was just a jar of oily water :) And to prove it wasn't spit, well its easy. Spit has a distintive odor to it and I guarantee you if you leave it out for a little while it'll cake up a little, just like the tiny white flakes you can get on your mouthpiece. This just evaporated a little, leaving behind an oily residue. And, there was no odor apart from the faint hint of valve oil. -William In a message dated 1/13/2003 9:51:00 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Subj:Re: [Hornlist] Trick question > Date:1/13/2003 9:51:00 AM Pacific Standard Time > From:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Reply-to:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > To:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent from the Internet > > > > Now, as we are all taught, it is not spit, it is CONDENSATION that collects > in > the horn. Actually, most of it is indeed condensation. When you consider > what > the alcohol content in the condensate must be to significantly depress the > freezing point, it staggers me (literally) to think of the amount of > alcohol > one must consume. > > Herb Foster > --- David Goldberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, 12 Jan 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > ... > > I'll guess that your horn *is* affected by wind chill because you are > part > > of the system when you play it. If there is no wind, then heat takes > > longer to dissipate. In particular, as you play your horn in freezing > > temperature and no wind, it takes longer for the water in the leadpipe to > > freeze. As the wind increases, you would have to play faster or louder - > > blow more (warm) air into it - to keep the tube from sealing up with > > frozen spit. Better you should have the flu if you have to play in a > > freezing wind - a high fever - your extra hot spit might get you through > > the piece. Or you might prepare by ingesting sufficient alcohol so that > > the liquid that enters your leadpipe resembles antifreeze. And playing > > low notes will help as the expansion is less than for high notes, so less > > heat is lost at the end of the mouthpiece. > > ... > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > ___ > Horn mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn > ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
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Now, as we are all taught, it is not spit, it is CONDENSATION that collects in the horn. Actually, most of it is indeed condensation. When you consider what the alcohol content in the condensate must be to significantly depress the freezing point, it staggers me (literally) to think of the amount of alcohol one must consume. Herb Foster --- David Goldberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 12 Jan 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ... > I'll guess that your horn *is* affected by wind chill because you are part > of the system when you play it. If there is no wind, then heat takes > longer to dissipate. In particular, as you play your horn in freezing > temperature and no wind, it takes longer for the water in the leadpipe to > freeze. As the wind increases, you would have to play faster or louder - > blow more (warm) air into it - to keep the tube from sealing up with > frozen spit. Better you should have the flu if you have to play in a > freezing wind - a high fever - your extra hot spit might get you through > the piece. Or you might prepare by ingesting sufficient alcohol so that > the liquid that enters your leadpipe resembles antifreeze. And playing > low notes will help as the expansion is less than for high notes, so less > heat is lost at the end of the mouthpiece. > ... __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
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You're wrong, Jim Buchholz, there is too a "wind chill factor" for your horn, and its value is 1. What you meant is there is no "wind chill effect." Jim Enterline At 03:44 PM 01/12/03 -0500, you wrote: When I asked what was the "wind chill factor" for my horn, the correct answer is there is no "wind chill factor". Wind chill is a term relating to how exposed skin feels to temperature and wind effects. Objects such as cars and my horn outdoors are not affected by wind chill. jim buchholz ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
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On Sun, 12 Jan 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> When I asked what was the "wind chill factor" for my horn, the correct
> answer is there is no "wind chill factor". Wind chill is a term relating to
> how exposed skin feels to temperature and wind effects. Objects such as
> cars and my horn outdoors are not affected by wind chill.
I'll guess that your horn *is* affected by wind chill because you are part
of the system when you play it. If there is no wind, then heat takes
longer to dissipate. In particular, as you play your horn in freezing
temperature and no wind, it takes longer for the water in the leadpipe to
freeze. As the wind increases, you would have to play faster or louder -
blow more (warm) air into it - to keep the tube from sealing up with
frozen spit. Better you should have the flu if you have to play in a
freezing wind - a high fever - your extra hot spit might get you through
the piece. Or you might prepare by ingesting sufficient alcohol so that
the liquid that enters your leadpipe resembles antifreeze. And playing
low notes will help as the expansion is less than for high notes, so less
heat is lost at the end of the mouthpiece.
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What's your horn doing outside in the chilly winds if you're not out there playing it? -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. ~~~ At 03:44 PM 1/12/2003 -0500, you wrote: When I asked what was the "wind chill factor" for my horn, the correct answer is there is no "wind chill factor". Wind chill is a term relating to how exposed skin feels to temperature and wind effects. Objects such as cars and my horn outdoors are not affected by wind chill. jim buchholz ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
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When I asked what was the "wind chill factor" for my horn, the correct answer is there is no "wind chill factor". Wind chill is a term relating to how exposed skin feels to temperature and wind effects. Objects such as cars and my horn outdoors are not affected by wind chill. jim buchholz mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
