Re: [Hornlist] Ear Problems
On Aug 8, 2007, at 9:27 AM, Milton Kicklighter wrote: Hi All, I just thought I would add a little "old fashioned" remedies to the ear thing. When I was quite young I used to have ear infections all the time. My mother would take the juice of a hot onion strong onion warm it up and put a couple of drops in my ear. I would have almost instant relief. I was wondering if anyone else out there had the same experience, and for some of you scientist types, I was wondering if you had any thought as to why this might have helped. Would it have been the enzymes in the onion juice or some such thing??? At the risk of taking this discussion even farther afield from the horn world, I'll bite. I'm a professional research biologist. Here are some hypotheses that could be tested: 1. Any warm liquid will provide relief. 2. Any warm oil will provide relief. 3. A warm liquid with the same physical properties of warm onion juice (pH {acidity}, viscosity {"ability to flow}, mixture of oil + water, osmolarity {salt concentration}, etc.) will provide relief. 4. There is some specific ingredient in onions (or garlic) that provides relief. Here's how you do the experiment. When you have an ear infection (ideally in both ears so that you have a control), have a friend make two preparations: one of, say warm saline (dissolve about 1/4 tsp table salt in a half-cup of water, or for our metric friends, about 1 gm salt into 100 ml water), and another of warm onion juice. Without them telling you which is which (this is important!), have them apply a different solution to each ear. Which ear feels better? Then you can ask them which solution went into each ear. You can do the same with, say, garlic oil and some other control solution, for example, some other type of oil. The reason you shouldn't know which solution goes into each of your ears is due to the placebo effect, which is that if you tell somebody that a substance will have a specific effect, then for a very large percentage of the population, that person will experience that effect. If it turns out that it is all about onions or garlic, then you would try dividing the solution into it its constituent components to figure out the active ingredient. It is all about doing the correct experiment! Until somebody shows me the data from a proper, controlled experiments, I view all claims for therapeutic value with great skepticism, though of course I'm always willing to do the experiment. Anyway, if anybody wants to continue this discussion, I suggest that we do so off-list. (I'm happy to, and would be *really* intrigued if some of you with chronic ear infections were to do some experiments.) OK, to bring this back to horn issues: as long as we are talking about experimental design, I'm delighted to hear about the experiments where the investigators actually *observed* the throats of wind players in action. *Very* cool! Carlisle ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Ear Problems
Hi Jeremy, and All at the AHQ I hope all of you are enjoying the AHQ. Please give my regards to my student and friend Amy Early and to the guys in the Quartet. Especially to Heather. She keeps them straight. And everyone, have a little wine for me. Tell her I expect her to begin work on the Strauss 1 when she returns. :) Try the onion juice thing if the ear ache comes back. Get the real thing though. And oh yes, tell Amy and others that might have been or are from Buffalo and all Italian food lovers: Last night I had the most wonderful meal at Franks Little Italy. Amy will explain it to you. :) I will be eating left overs for two days. --- Jeremy Cucco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Interesting... > > I assume it's pretty similar in concept to the garlic oil since they are > in the same family. > > I have to admit, I went and tried the garlic oil trick last night. (I'm > in dire emergency here - Sunday morning I woke up with a raging ear > infection after not having had one for more than 10 years! It turns > out, I'm down in Daytona to record the AHQ and I couldn't bear the > feeling of headphones on my head with this infection!) The great news > is, the garlic oil worked wonderfully! > > It smells QUITE pungent, but it works. I put a capsules worth in my ear > last night before I slept and woke up with a MUCH better feeling! The > only problem now is that I woke up with this horrible hankering for > Pizza or Baked Ziti! That doesn't make for a good breakfast!! > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Milton Kicklighter > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 9:28 AM > To: The Horn List > Subject: [Hornlist] Ear Problems > > > Hi All, > > I just thought I would add a little "old fashioned" remedies to the ear > thing. > > When I was quite young I used to have ear infections all the time. My > mother would take the juice of a hot onion strong onion warm it > up and put a couple of drops in my ear. I would have almost instant > relief. > > I was wondering if anyone else out there had the same experience, and > for some of you scientist types, I was wondering if you had any thought > as to why this might have helped. Would it have been the enzymes in the > onion juice or some such thing??? > > And again thanks to all for your encouragement concerning my upcoming > surgery. > > Milton > Milton Kicklighter > 4th horn Buffalo Phil > > > > > > Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: > mail, news, photos & more. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/jeremy%40sublymerecords.c > om > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.8/941 - Release Date: 8/7/2007 > 4:06 PM > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.8/941 - Release Date: 8/7/2007 > 4:06 PM > > > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/kicklighgter%40yahoo.com > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Ear Problems
Interesting... I assume it's pretty similar in concept to the garlic oil since they are in the same family. I have to admit, I went and tried the garlic oil trick last night. (I'm in dire emergency here - Sunday morning I woke up with a raging ear infection after not having had one for more than 10 years! It turns out, I'm down in Daytona to record the AHQ and I couldn't bear the feeling of headphones on my head with this infection!) The great news is, the garlic oil worked wonderfully! It smells QUITE pungent, but it works. I put a capsules worth in my ear last night before I slept and woke up with a MUCH better feeling! The only problem now is that I woke up with this horrible hankering for Pizza or Baked Ziti! That doesn't make for a good breakfast!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Milton Kicklighter Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 9:28 AM To: The Horn List Subject: [Hornlist] Ear Problems Hi All, I just thought I would add a little "old fashioned" remedies to the ear thing. When I was quite young I used to have ear infections all the time. My mother would take the juice of a hot onion strong onion warm it up and put a couple of drops in my ear. I would have almost instant relief. I was wondering if anyone else out there had the same experience, and for some of you scientist types, I was wondering if you had any thought as to why this might have helped. Would it have been the enzymes in the onion juice or some such thing??? And again thanks to all for your encouragement concerning my upcoming surgery. Milton Milton Kicklighter 4th horn Buffalo Phil Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/jeremy%40sublymerecords.c om No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.8/941 - Release Date: 8/7/2007 4:06 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.8/941 - Release Date: 8/7/2007 4:06 PM ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org