Re: [Hornlist] Language, NHR

[Simon Varnam]

message: 18
date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 23:02:08 -0500
from: martin bender [EMAIL PROTECTED]
subject: Re: [Hornlist] Language, NHR

N.H.R.

Not quibbling, but it's nit pick (as in picking small parasites or
lice [a.k.a. nits] from one's skin, also seen in simian grooming) and
ebonics as in the colour ebony, in relation to  the ridiculous
attempt to formally integrate, categorize and legitimize (as well as
win academic approval for) as a bona fide evolution of the english
language, the various slang terms used by African americans, into the
Queen's english.


A quibble:
if Queen and African deserve capitals, don't English and 
American too?


:-)

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RE: [Hornlist] Language, NHR

[Steve Freides]

Martin Bender wrote:
 
 N.H.R.
 
 Not quibbling, but it's nit pick (as in picking small 
 parasites or lice [a.k.a. nits] from one's skin, also seen in 
 simian grooming) and ebonics as in the colour ebony, in 
 relation to  the ridiculous attempt to formally integrate, 
 categorize and legitimize (as well as win academic approval 
 for) as a bona fide evolution of the english language, the 
 various slang terms used by African americans, into the 
 Queen's english.
 
 Best regards,
 Martin Bender

Quibble all you like. :)  I looked it up, and it has become a single word,
at least according to the two dictionaries I looked at online.  Nit is
also listed separately, and I'm reasonably sure using it as two words would
be considered acceptable usage (which I prefer to spell as useage but
that's just me).

If you Google nit pick, Google will suggest that you've made a mistake and
bring up listings for nitpick instead, so perhaps the two-word version is
no longer much in use; I don't really know. (I could have used a dash
instead of a semi-colon - or a semicolon - there but I prefer the latter.)

Ah, Inglisch!

-S-

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Re: [Hornlist] Language, NHR

[martin bender]

N.H.R.

Not quibbling, but it's nit pick (as in picking small parasites or  
lice [a.k.a. nits] from one's skin, also seen in simian grooming) and  
ebonics as in the colour ebony, in relation to  the ridiculous  
attempt to formally integrate, categorize and legitimize (as well as  
win academic approval for) as a bona fide evolution of the english  
language, the various slang terms used by African americans, into the  
Queen's english.


Best regards,
Martin Bender


On 12-Nov-06, at 9:37 PM, Wendell Rider wrote:



On Nov 12, 2006, at 10:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


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date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 11:54:31 -0500
from: Pandolfi, Orlando [EMAIL PROTECTED]
subject: RE: [Hornlist] language

The verb to see has taken on a much broader meaning in American
English.  It has begun to mean to understand to observe and  
even to
hear; things not having to do with the sense of sight.  As the  
world is
continually becoming more visual and less about listening,  
particularly

in the U.S.A., it is an understandable albeit regrettable vernacular
evolution.  I frequently point this out to my students when they  
tell me

they have seen a concert.  I always respond How did it look?
Nevertheless, despite my personal pedagogical efforts, obnoxious  
though

they be, with the young people in my charge, I remain well aware that
the more a word is used in a particular way, the more it redefines
itself.  With this in mind, I would never think to correct a  
colleague

in a public forum.  I would be rude of me.

Orlando


Hi all,
I like to grok things too. How many of our young listers know  
that one? Actually, to see has a long history of meaning beyond  
the obvious. It goes back way before any of us were born and is  
perfectly proper in many situations. Check your dictionary.
I hate to knit pick, but this one does not fall on the younger  
generation. The people in this country who are really ruining the  
language are sports announcers (yikes!!!), talking heads and  
politicians (remember eubonics?). Young people are always messing  
with the language. Some of it sticks and some doesn't.

Sincerely,
Wendell Rider
For information about my book, Real World Horn Playing, the  
Summer Seminar and Internet Horn Lessons go to my website:  
www.wendellworld.com





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