Re: [Hornlist] Fantastic natural horn playing on CD
They had only one left. I hope my wife got it :-). Herb Foster --- Claude Maury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is the information of that (beautiful) CD : Anton Reicha (1770-1836) 24 Trios pour trois cors op. 82 Deutsche Naturhorn Solisten MDG 605 0864-2 You can find it on amazon.de : http://www.amazon.de/Trios-f%FCr-H%F6rner-Deutsche-Naturhornsolisten/dp/B0JIOZ - Original Message - From: Simon Varnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 1:40 AM Subject: [Hornlist] Fantastic natural horn playing on CD from: Herbert Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] subject: [Hornlist] Fantastic natural horn playing on CD This morning on the radio I heard 24 Trios for 3 Horns, Op 84, by Anton Reicha, played by the German Natural Horn Soloists You didn't happen to notice the title/number/etc of the CD, did you? Sounds like a nice Christmas present for myself! Simon ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/mauryclaude%40free.fr ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/herb_foster%40yahoo.com Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Fantastic natural horn playing on CD
Here is the information of that (beautiful) CD : Anton Reicha (1770-1836) 24 Trios pour trois cors op. 82 Deutsche Naturhorn Solisten MDG 605 0864-2 You can find it on amazon.de : http://www.amazon.de/Trios-f%FCr-H%F6rner-Deutsche-Naturhornsolisten/dp/B0JIOZ - Original Message - From: Simon Varnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 1:40 AM Subject: [Hornlist] Fantastic natural horn playing on CD from: Herbert Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] subject: [Hornlist] Fantastic natural horn playing on CD This morning on the radio I heard 24 Trios for 3 Horns, Op 84, by Anton Reicha, played by the German Natural Horn Soloists You didn't happen to notice the title/number/etc of the CD, did you? Sounds like a nice Christmas present for myself! Simon ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/mauryclaude%40free.fr ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] RE: Natural horn
http://orchard.wccnet.org/~goldberg/music/
Go here to see another instrument that a clarinet is not; click on
clarinet.GIF
If you click on vhorn.GIF, you will see a real instrument that I heard
in a street band in Prague - I posted this before, but IE users were not
able to see it.
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Wendell R wrote
Understanding, getting a feel for and manipulating the natural
harmonics is what it is all about. That's how a horn works. Its not a
clarinet. Think about it.
***
Tres insightful, Wendell. At last I can understand why my French File Cut
Rico Royal No. 2 1/2 reeds keep falling out of my Farkas MDC mouthpiece.
Gotta go,
Cabbage
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RE: [Hornlist] the natural horn
Nick, you got the news quite late indeed, as even Dennis Brain started the natural horn rebirth in the very early 1950ies, more than 50 years ago. And he got a large number of followers, who adopted the natural horn ads their second leg for special concerts since. Nick, have you ever heard of concerts with period instruments ? It seems, you belong to the vast number of young players living on a far away planet without registering what´s around them. That does not only happen on your continent, it is a world wide epidemic not only restricted to music. Achieving a technical mastery of the instrument, which players of my generation could not even imagine, but completely outside the context of music, without phantasy, without feeling, without everything essential for the art of music. So far, the situation. Yes, this changed world - not to blame you, Nick, and your commilitones - , this world with ist acoustical environment pollution has reduced our sensitivity to near zero level, so most of us need a sample for everything (e.g. recording), as we cannot imagine how a piece would sound, by mere reading the written or printed music. We have reduced ourselves to poor imitators more or less. But few exception remaining phantasyful creative. Those climb up the ladder of success. Those get the best jobs in the orchestra. The rarity of these talents is the reason, why more more good orchestra vacancies cannot be filled with appropriate young musicians. Before we hire a only-technician-musician, we leave a top position vacant for years. Back to your question: You seem to mix up the facts. Conch shell ox horn were signal instruments, nothing else. Olifants (= the horns made of elephant tuscs) were extremely precious, were used as ceremonial signal instruments as were the antic lures. This was different from what we think of music in the classical way. It was not music per se. Hunting horns can play together in one tonality only, except we use the imperfect system of modulating single pitches by the use of the right hand in the bell (quite complicate regarding the dimensions of these horns). If the group is large enough includes horns of different pitch, the group can play modestly altered tonalities in the performances. But this is again a deviation from the pure path of hunting horn playing. So hunting horn playing remains restricted, even received enthusiastic by the audiences because of the special sound the optical sensation, restricted due to the compository limitations. And it cannot be named a musical instrument in our modern sense therefore. The hand horn or natural horn is different, as a real natural horn virtuoso (Halstead, Bonet, Greer, Garcin-Marrou, etc.) can play nearly every kind of music from early baroque period until late romantic on this kind of horn, and in a way, most technical advanced (valve horn) players cannot dare to dream of. Why these rebirth ? (during my study, there was no rebirth of the natural horn necessary, as it was part of our study, but at the beginning, the very beginning. It was the beginning !) Yes, this rebirth brings back the basic technique of horn playing, the better feeling for tone colours, the better lip control (bending, sharpening, lowering, lip trills, stopping, hand muting) with all the benefits for the modern double horn. Forgot the mute ? No problem. Do it by hand. Forgot stopping mute ? No problem, go to hand-stopping. Etc.etc. And, playing period music with period instruments creates a better understanding for blending with other instruments (horn = tin viola !), gives better understanding about possible tempi, dynamics etc. And more, more, more . The driving point for a rebirth of a somewhat antiquated instrument is not the number of existing concert pieces. This view would be much too narrow. But believe me: learning this old techniques will help you to make you a better modern horn player musician. = -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nicholas Hartman Hartman Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 3:09 AM To: horn list Subject: [Hornlist] the natural horn Dear List, I've heard that recently, the natural horn has been making a comeback. My question is, why the natural horn? Why not the hunting horn, alp horn, or even the conch shell? it seem like an oddly specific instrument to make a comeback. There are dozens of horns that have had an impact on the development of the modern horn, yet no one would put the words Seraphinoff and Conch Shell in the same sentence (except for just then). Thanks, Nick - Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel more fun for the weekend. Check it out! ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at
Re: [Hornlist] the natural horn
I don't think Beethoven or Mozart wrote anything for the conch. All the best, Lawrence þaes ofereode - þisses swa maeg _http://lawrenceyates.co.uk_ (http://lawrenceyates.co.uk/) Dulcian Wind Quintet: _http://dulcianwind.co.uk_ (http://dulcianwind.co.uk/) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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How about more work for the Shofar? A composer could start his work and when he's completed his first movement could announce, well, shofari so goody. Hey, it's Monday that's my excuse. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] the natural horn
Hey, with all the money you save by not needing to buy rotary valve oil, you can commission some famous composer to write something for natural horn or conch shell or shofar. -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. ~~~ At 08:06 AM 6/6/2005, you wrote: How about more work for the Shofar? A composer could start his work and when he's completed his first movement could announce, well, shofari so goody. Hey, it's Monday that's my excuse. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.2 - Release Date: 6/4/2005 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] the natural horn
Actually played a shofar? The big thing about them is that, at least until they've gotten pretty old and well-used, they absolutely stink. The room, if not well ventilated, literally smells like, well, a dead animal when someone plays the shofar more than just briefly. I've been told you can run a dilute vinegar solution through them to help with the smell but we haven't tried that yet and apparently it can adversely affect the playing quality of the shofar if you don't do it just right. Steve Tekiah Gedolah Freides -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] du] On Behalf Of Alan Cole Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 8:18 AM To: The Horn List Subject: RE: [Hornlist] the natural horn Hey, with all the money you save by not needing to buy rotary valve oil, you can commission some famous composer to write something for natural horn or conch shell or shofar. -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. ~~~ At 08:06 AM 6/6/2005, you wrote: How about more work for the Shofar? A composer could start his work and when he's completed his first movement could announce, well, shofari so goody. Hey, it's Monday that's my excuse. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.2 - Release Date: 6/4/2005 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/steve%40fridaysc omputer.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] the natural horn
In my opinion, it would be because there is a significant literature for the natural horn, whereas the conch shell, hunting horn, alp horn and the like do not. they may have a large amount of music for them but it is more practical than written for its musical value and because of that doesn't have the broader appeal of the natural horn. Also due to the rise in period instrument groups, there are many more opportunities to really perform. paxmaha Nicholas Hartman Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear List, I've heard that recently, the natural horn has been making a comeback. My question is, why the natural horn? Why not the hunting horn, alp horn, or even the conch shell? it seem like an oddly specific instrument to make a comeback. There are dozens of horns that have had an impact on the development of the modern horn, yet no one would put the words Seraphinoff and Conch Shell in the same sentence (except for just then). Thanks, Nick - Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel more fun for the weekend. Check it out! ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/paxmaha%40yahoo.com - Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM more. Check it out! ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] the natural horn
Bill Gross wrote: How about more work for the Shofar New York composer, Rafael Mostel, recently finished a new piece for brass (4-4-4-1), NIGHT AND DAWN (NACHT EN DAGERAAD), including a brief section for 4 shofarot (with ossia for standard horns using different music - or with additional musicians so both parts can be played simultaneously). It was commissioned for the Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra Brass Ensemble to commemorate the 60th anniversary of the liberation of the Netherlands. The RCO brass, together with brass from the Chicago Symphony, gave the world premiere in Orchestra Hall, Chicago on May 3, 2005. Rafael has used shofarot in other compositions as well and always uses them in a non-traditional manner, rather than relying on the tekiah, shevarim and teruah. Hugo Weisgall's Tekiatot uses a solo shofar in the traditional manner within the context of a late 20th century orchestral composition. I am the shofar player on the Naxos CD (8.559425) of Tekiatot with the Seattle Symphony and Gerard Schwarz. Cheers, Steven Ovitsky Executive Director Santa Fe Chamber Music Festival ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] the natural horn
Slightly off-topic now on shofars and not horns, but Steve, are different shofarot tuned the same? I know next to nothing about them but since they are not made in the sense a horn is, I imagine getting four of them in tune with each other might not be a simple thing? I guess the shofar maker could continual test the instrument and gradually shorten it until it gets to the right fundamental, but I imagine the overtones would be different among four shofars of the same fundamental as well. In other words, if you could talk a bit more about what you know of classical composition for the shofar, at least this one list member would find it very interesting from a technical point of view. -S- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] du] On Behalf Of Steven Ovitsky Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 8:50 AM To: 'The Horn List' Subject: RE: [Hornlist] the natural horn Bill Gross wrote: How about more work for the Shofar New York composer, Rafael Mostel, recently finished a new piece for brass (4-4-4-1), NIGHT AND DAWN (NACHT EN DAGERAAD), including a brief section for 4 shofarot (with ossia for standard horns using different music - or with additional musicians so both parts can be played simultaneously). It was commissioned for the Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra Brass Ensemble to commemorate the 60th anniversary of the liberation of the Netherlands. The RCO brass, together with brass from the Chicago Symphony, gave the world premiere in Orchestra Hall, Chicago on May 3, 2005. Rafael has used shofarot in other compositions as well and always uses them in a non-traditional manner, rather than relying on the tekiah, shevarim and teruah. Hugo Weisgall's Tekiatot uses a solo shofar in the traditional manner within the context of a late 20th century orchestral composition. I am the shofar player on the Naxos CD (8.559425) of Tekiatot with the Seattle Symphony and Gerard Schwarz. Cheers, Steven Ovitsky Executive Director Santa Fe Chamber Music Festival ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/steve%40fridaysc omputer.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] the natural horn
Shucks, wouldn't surprise me 1 bit to learn the animal husbandry geniuses down at Texas AM -- if they wanted to -- could turn out herds of the appropriate variety of the proper species that collectively grow complete sets of shofar-ready appendages in a range of sizes that provide for making an accurately tuned complete set, fully chromatic in the aggregate. Wouldn't that be a hoot? -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. ~~ At 10:17 AM 6/6/2005, you wrote: Slightly off-topic now on shofars and not horns, but Steve, are different shofarot tuned the same? I know next to nothing about them but since they are not made in the sense a horn is, I imagine getting four of them in tune with each other might not be a simple thing? I guess the shofar maker could continual test the instrument and gradually shorten it until it gets to the right fundamental, but I imagine the overtones would be different among four shofars of the same fundamental as well. In other words, if you could talk a bit more about what you know of classical composition for the shofar, at least this one list member would find it very interesting from a technical point of view. -S- -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.2 - Release Date: 6/4/2005 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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It's a mind boggling idea. Though I think it would be a toot, not a hoot. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Cole Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 9:36 AM To: The Horn List Subject: RE: [Hornlist] the natural horn Shucks, wouldn't surprise me 1 bit to learn the animal husbandry geniuses down at Texas AM -- if they wanted to -- could turn out herds of the appropriate variety of the proper species that collectively grow complete sets of shofar-ready appendages in a range of sizes that provide for making an accurately tuned complete set, fully chromatic in the aggregate. Wouldn't that be a hoot? -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. ~~ [. . . ] ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] the natural horn
Well, that's just a matter of articulation, is it not? -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. ~~~ At 10:46 AM 6/6/2005, you wrote: It's a mind boggling idea. Though I think it would be a toot, not a hoot. - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.2 - Release Date: 6/4/2005 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] the natural horn
Some special wax or lacquer helps. But not for the raw horn. Perhaps, play it hot to advert stunk. The same with lamb. If it is hot, it tastes superb, but getting cold, a case to vomite. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Freides Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 2:29 PM To: 'The Horn List' Subject: RE: [Hornlist] the natural horn Actually played a shofar? The big thing about them is that, at least until they've gotten pretty old and well-used, they absolutely stink. The room, if not well ventilated, literally smells like, well, a dead animal when someone plays the shofar more than just briefly. I've been told you can run a dilute vinegar solution through them to help with the smell but we haven't tried that yet and apparently it can adversely affect the playing quality of the shofar if you don't do it just right. Steve Tekiah Gedolah Freides -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] .e du] On Behalf Of Alan Cole Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 8:18 AM To: The Horn List Subject: RE: [Hornlist] the natural horn Hey, with all the money you save by not needing to buy rotary valve oil, you can commission some famous composer to write something for natural horn or conch shell or shofar. -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. ~~~ At 08:06 AM 6/6/2005, you wrote: How about more work for the Shofar? A composer could start his work and when he's completed his first movement could announce, well, shofari so goody. Hey, it's Monday that's my excuse. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.2 - Release Date: 6/4/2005 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/steve%40friday sc omputer.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka.d e ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] the natural horn
Steve Turre, jazz trombonist, is also a jazz conchist. He has a group, Sanctified Shells, and CDs. While a natural horn has a greater range, several notes can be gotten out of a conch shell by manipulating the right hand in the, er, bell. Now about getting a tuned set of conch shells... Herb Foster --- Jerry Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nicholas Hartman Hartman wrote: Dear List, I've heard that recently, the natural horn has been making a comeback. My question is, why the natural horn? Why not the hunting horn, alp horn, or even the conch shell? it seem like an oddly specific instrument to make a comeback. There are dozens of horns that have had an impact on the development of the modern horn, yet no one would put the words Seraphinoff and Conch Shell in the same sentence (except for just then). Just a wild guess, but I suspect it's because there is such a rich repertoire of beautiful music that was originally written at a time when all horns were natural horns, and thus, it's quite playable on one. Beethoven and Mozart come to mind immediately. If someone has written a Concerto for Conch Shell, I'm not aware of it. And where are you gonna get a stopping mute to fit one? ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/herb_foster%40yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] the natural horn
Some days I think I'm playing on a clam shell. Want fries with that? -Original Message- From: Jim Riesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 22:42:10 -0400 Subject: Re: [Hornlist] the natural horn I have written a serenade for two conch shells and flute that was actually performed by yours truly on 1st Conch and two friends of mine, back in college. So yes, the conch shell is also making a comeback! Jim @/ On Jun 5, 2005, at 10:22 PM, Jerry Houston wrote: Nicholas Hartman Hartman wrote: Dear List, I've heard that recently, the natural horn has been making a comeback. My question is, why the natural horn? Why not the hunting horn, alp horn, or even the conch shell? it seem like an oddly specific instrument to make a comeback. There are dozens of horns that have had an impact on the development of the modern horn, yet no one would put the words Seraphinoff and Conch Shell in the same sentence (except for just then). Just a wild guess, but I suspect it's because there is such a rich repertoire of beautiful music that was originally written at a time when all horns were natural horns, and thus, it's quite playable on one. Beethoven and Mozart come to mind immediately. If someone has written a Concerto for Conch Shell, I'm not aware of it. And where are you gonna get a stopping mute to fit one?If music be the food of love, play on ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/billbamberg%40aol.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] the natural horn
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005, James Ray Crenshaw wrote:
And where are you gonna get a stopping mute to fit... a Conch Shell?
The animal that lived in the shell would make a good stopping mute. But
best don't use it after about three days.
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Nicholas Hartman Hartman wrote: Dear List, I've heard that recently, the natural horn has been making a comeback. My question is, why the natural horn? Why not the hunting horn, alp horn, or even the conch shell? it seem like an oddly specific instrument to make a comeback. There are dozens of horns that have had an impact on the development of the modern horn, yet no one would put the words Seraphinoff and Conch Shell in the same sentence (except for just then). Just a wild guess, but I suspect it's because there is such a rich repertoire of beautiful music that was originally written at a time when all horns were natural horns, and thus, it's quite playable on one. Beethoven and Mozart come to mind immediately. If someone has written a Concerto for Conch Shell, I'm not aware of it. And where are you gonna get a stopping mute to fit one? ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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I would imagine it has a good deal to do with the music that was written for the natural horn. After all, how many conch shell concerti do we know of? :) Chris --- Nicholas Hartman Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear List, I've heard that recently, the natural horn has been making a comeback. My question is, why the natural horn? Why not the hunting horn, alp horn, or even the conch shell? it seem like an oddly specific instrument to make a comeback. There are dozens of horns that have had an impact on the development of the modern horn, yet no one would put the words Seraphinoff and Conch Shell in the same sentence (except for just then). Thanks, Nick - Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel more fun for the weekend. Check it out! ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/tedesccj%40yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] the natural horn
I have written a serenade for two conch shells and flute that was actually performed by yours truly on 1st Conch and two friends of mine, back in college. So yes, the conch shell is also making a comeback! Jim @/ On Jun 5, 2005, at 10:22 PM, Jerry Houston wrote: Nicholas Hartman Hartman wrote: Dear List, I've heard that recently, the natural horn has been making a comeback. My question is, why the natural horn? Why not the hunting horn, alp horn, or even the conch shell? it seem like an oddly specific instrument to make a comeback. There are dozens of horns that have had an impact on the development of the modern horn, yet no one would put the words Seraphinoff and Conch Shell in the same sentence (except for just then). Just a wild guess, but I suspect it's because there is such a rich repertoire of beautiful music that was originally written at a time when all horns were natural horns, and thus, it's quite playable on one. Beethoven and Mozart come to mind immediately. If someone has written a Concerto for Conch Shell, I'm not aware of it. And where are you gonna get a stopping mute to fit one?If music be the food of love, play on ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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Maybe I should read the replies before I reply myself? Sorry! Chris --- Chris Tedesco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would imagine it has a good deal to do with the music that was written for the natural horn. After all, how many conch shell concerti do we know of? :) Chris --- Nicholas Hartman Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear List, I've heard that recently, the natural horn has been making a comeback. My question is, why the natural horn? Why not the hunting horn, alp horn, or even the conch shell? it seem like an oddly specific instrument to make a comeback. There are dozens of horns that have had an impact on the development of the modern horn, yet no one would put the words Seraphinoff and Conch Shell in the same sentence (except for just then). Thanks, Nick - Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel more fun for the weekend. Check it out! ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/tedesccj%40yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/tedesccj%40yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re: natural horn recordings of valved horn music
Didn't John Wunderlich record it. Or was that which broke his recorder? Herb Foster --- nancy bremer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Leonard B. asked: Have any of our wonderful natural horn artists recorded valved horn music such as the two Strauss Concertos? Gee Leonard, I don't know, but I did hear Professor Gestopftmitscheist play the Gliere on natural horn a couple of years ago. Oh. My. God. Too bad no one recorded the performance :-) Nan Bremer Columbia City, Indiana, USA Principal horn, Manchester Symphony Orchestra Appleseed Woodwind Quintet - Fifth horn, Ill Wind Horn Quartet... Call me for bookings, 555-1212 :-) _ Try MSN Messenger 6.0 with integrated webcam functionality! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_webcam ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/herb_foster%40yahoo.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] turnabout Natural Horn
At 5:21 PM -0500 9/9/03, Leonard Peggy Brown wrote: Considering the number of records and disks out there of natural horn music (Beethoven, Mozart, etc) played on valved horns it would seem that turnabout would be fair play. Have any of our wonderful natural horn artists recorded valved horn music such as the two Strauss Concertos? Leonard - You deserve to be the first! Go for it. If they can be played on single F horns, surely it's not a big leap to natural horn. Anyway, look at the later methods for valveless horns and you'll see that the technique was there to play just about anything. Let's see if Sony Classical is interested. You might get a grant from BBC3, or at least an airing of your performance. Regards, Carlberg PS - I'll tuck in my chin and saunter away if there are such recordings now. Carlberg Jones Guanajuato, Gto. MEXICO 011-52-473-731-0179 Cel. 011-52-473-560-8020 US number 1-206-350-3090 (message/fax only) ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
