Re: [Hornlist] 667 or 567?

2005-11-24 Thread billbamberg
Am I the only one who reads The asinine marketing text that follows these 
instruments around.  What possible meaning are they trying to convey with the 
term "customized", especially when they go on to boast that critical operations 
are under computer control.  It's probably fair to assume the manufacturing 
control  on these instruments is so poor, no two are alike.
 
This goes back to the Alex 103s so prevalent in Boston in the '60s.  Every one 
was different.  Some of the worst horns I've ever played were 103s.  
Interestingly, there was usually another quite experienced player who would 
claim the horn I couldn't stand to be the best he'd ever put lips to.  Those 
were 'custom', hand made horns.   I've always found the student versions of the 
custom Yamahas to average out to be better players than the expensive custom 
version, but the only other believers I find are the owners of the student 
horns, if they are advanced enough to appreciate the qualities of a well 
balanced instrument.
 
If you find yourself at a horn gathering, try to organize a little time for the 
group to listen to the horns present being played by different players using 
different mouthpieces.  Very quickly, the participants will gain some real 
understanding of instrument relationships.  Think how valuable this information 
could be to really serious horn designers.  
 
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Sent: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 22:36:19 + (GMT)
Subject: [Hornlist] 667 or 567?


Is this for real?  I thought the 667V was an
unlacquered instrument.  Could it be a 567?

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Tom



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Re: [Hornlist] 667 or 567?

2005-11-23 Thread smartin
yes, its a 667v. I don't know what is up about the shiny brass, but if
you look at the trigger and other bells and whistles, its significantly
different from the 567. 
 Cheers,
Shane
  


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Re: [Hornlist] 667 or 567?

2005-11-23 Thread Chris Tedesco
Usually it is unlacquered in the US market but this horn is available in a
lacquered version from the factory (at no extra cost) and is marketed in other
countries with a lacquered option.  There are two lacquered 667V's in the horn
studio at school.  

While they 567 and 667V strangely share the dual-plane system, the engraved
caps give it away.

Chris

--- Tom Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is this for real?  I thought the 667V was an
> unlacquered instrument.  Could it be a 567?
> 
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Re: [Hornlist] 667 or 567?

2005-11-23 Thread Richard V. West
Tom:

>From the looks of it (engraved valve caps, etc.), I'd say it's a 667V as 
>advertised. Where does it say it's lacquered? It could just be recently 
>polished...I've heard that some folk actually polish their unlacquered horns 
>from time to time, as de trop as that may be.

Richard West
Seattle
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tom Fisher 
  To: horn@music.memphis.edu 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 2:36 PM
  Subject: [Hornlist] 667 or 567?


  Is this for real?  I thought the 667V was an
  unlacquered instrument.  Could it be a 567?

  
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7367496702&fromMakeTrack=true

  Tom



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