RE: [Hornlist] Ear Problems

2007-08-08 Thread Jeremy Cucco
Interesting...

I assume it's pretty similar in concept to the garlic oil since they are
in the same family.

I have to admit, I went and tried the garlic oil trick last night.  (I'm
in dire emergency here - Sunday morning I woke up with a raging ear
infection after not having had one for more than 10 years!  It turns
out, I'm down in Daytona to record the AHQ and I couldn't bear the
feeling of headphones on my head with this infection!)  The great news
is, the garlic oil worked wonderfully!

It smells QUITE pungent, but it works. I put a capsules worth in my ear
last night before I slept and woke up with a MUCH better feeling!  The
only problem now is that I woke up with this horrible hankering for
Pizza or Baked Ziti!  That doesn't make for a good breakfast!!





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Subject: [Hornlist] Ear Problems


Hi All,

I just thought I would add a little old fashioned remedies to the ear
thing.

When I was quite young I used to have ear infections all the time.  My
mother would take the juice of a hot onion strong onion warm it
up and put a couple of drops in my ear.  I would have almost instant
relief. 

I was wondering if anyone else out there had the same experience, and
for some of you scientist types, I was wondering if you had any thought
as to why this might have helped.  Would it have been the enzymes in the
onion juice or some such thing???

And again thanks to all for your encouragement concerning my upcoming
surgery.

Milton
Milton Kicklighter
4th horn Buffalo Phil


   


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RE: [Hornlist] Ear Problems

2007-08-08 Thread Milton Kicklighter
Hi Jeremy, and All at the AHQ

I hope all of you are enjoying  the AHQ.  Please give my regards to my
student and friend Amy Early and to the guys in the Quartet.  Especially
to Heather.  She keeps them straight.  And everyone, have a little wine
for me.

Tell her I expect her to begin work on the Strauss 1 when she returns. :)

Try the onion juice thing if the ear ache comes back.  Get the real thing
though.

And oh yes, tell Amy and others that might have been or are from Buffalo
and all Italian food lovers: Last night I had the most wonderful meal at
Franks Little Italy.  Amy will explain it to you. :)   I will be eating
left overs for two days.
--- Jeremy Cucco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Interesting...
 
 I assume it's pretty similar in concept to the garlic oil since they are
 in the same family.
 
 I have to admit, I went and tried the garlic oil trick last night.  (I'm
 in dire emergency here - Sunday morning I woke up with a raging ear
 infection after not having had one for more than 10 years!  It turns
 out, I'm down in Daytona to record the AHQ and I couldn't bear the
 feeling of headphones on my head with this infection!)  The great news
 is, the garlic oil worked wonderfully!
 
 It smells QUITE pungent, but it works. I put a capsules worth in my ear
 last night before I slept and woke up with a MUCH better feeling!  The
 only problem now is that I woke up with this horrible hankering for
 Pizza or Baked Ziti!  That doesn't make for a good breakfast!!
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Milton Kicklighter
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 9:28 AM
 To: The Horn List
 Subject: [Hornlist] Ear Problems
 
 
 Hi All,
 
 I just thought I would add a little old fashioned remedies to the ear
 thing.
 
 When I was quite young I used to have ear infections all the time.  My
 mother would take the juice of a hot onion strong onion warm it
 up and put a couple of drops in my ear.  I would have almost instant
 relief. 
 
 I was wondering if anyone else out there had the same experience, and
 for some of you scientist types, I was wondering if you had any thought
 as to why this might have helped.  Would it have been the enzymes in the
 onion juice or some such thing???
 
 And again thanks to all for your encouragement concerning my upcoming
 surgery.
 
 Milton
 Milton Kicklighter
 4th horn Buffalo Phil
 
 

 
 
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Re: [Hornlist] Ear Problems

2007-08-08 Thread Carlisle Landel

On Aug 8, 2007, at 9:27 AM, Milton Kicklighter wrote:

Hi All,

I just thought I would add a little old fashioned remedies to the  
ear

thing.

When I was quite young I used to have ear infections all the time.  My
mother would take the juice of a hot onion strong onion  
warm it up
and put a couple of drops in my ear.  I would have almost instant  
relief.


I was wondering if anyone else out there had the same experience,  
and for
some of you scientist types, I was wondering if you had any thought  
as to
why this might have helped.  Would it have been the enzymes in the  
onion

juice or some such thing???


At the risk of taking this discussion even farther afield from the  
horn world, I'll bite. I'm a professional research biologist.


Here are some hypotheses that could be tested:
1. Any warm liquid will provide relief.
2. Any warm oil will provide relief.
3.  A warm liquid with the same physical properties of warm onion  
juice (pH {acidity}, viscosity {ability to flow}, mixture of oil +  
water, osmolarity {salt concentration}, etc.) will provide relief.
4. There is some specific ingredient in onions (or garlic) that  
provides relief.


Here's how you do the experiment.  When you have an ear infection  
(ideally in both ears so that you have a control), have a friend make  
two preparations:  one of, say warm saline (dissolve about 1/4 tsp  
table salt in a half-cup of water, or for our metric friends, about 1  
gm salt into 100 ml water), and another of warm onion juice.  Without  
them telling you which is which (this is important!), have them apply  
a different solution to each ear.   Which ear feels better?  Then you  
can ask them which solution went into each ear.


You can do the same with, say, garlic oil and some other control  
solution, for example, some other type of oil.


The reason you shouldn't know which solution goes into each of your  
ears is due to the placebo effect, which is that if you tell somebody  
that a substance will have a specific effect, then for a very large  
percentage of the population, that person will experience that effect.


If it turns out that it is all about onions or garlic, then you would  
try dividing the solution into it its constituent components to  
figure out the active ingredient.


It is all about doing the correct experiment!

Until somebody shows me the data from a proper, controlled  
experiments, I view all claims for therapeutic value with great  
skepticism, though of course I'm always willing to do the experiment.


Anyway, if anybody wants to continue this discussion, I suggest that  
we do so off-list.  (I'm happy to, and would be *really* intrigued  
if  some of you with chronic ear infections were to do some  
experiments.)


OK, to bring this back to horn issues:  as long as we are talking  
about experimental design, I'm delighted to hear about the  
experiments where the investigators actually *observed* the throats  
of wind players in action.  *Very* cool!


Carlisle





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