Re: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim

2005-01-19 Thread Herbert Foster
All gold plating is not created equal. I've had mouthpieces plated and rims
supplied by the maker that stuck to my lips like glue. It may be a surface
phenomenon--after a year they got slippery. Mouthpieces I've had done by Dillon
have been very good. I don't know who does their plating.

Herb Foster
--- Richard V. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Steve:
 
 If you already have a silver screw rim, get it goldplated. The cost is
 generally fairly minimal, especially compared to purchasing a new gold
 plated rim. I've done this several times with my silver screw rims. Look up
 silver and gold plating firms in your yellow pages or, failing that,
 sometimes music stores (particularly those specializing in brass
 instruments) can get it done for you or recommend a source.
 
 Richard in Seattle
 

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RE: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim

2005-01-18 Thread Steve Freides
For a jeweler whose never done this, are any particular instructions
necessary other than gold plating?  Thickness, 14 vs 24 or whatever carats
(sp?) - anything like that?

-S- 

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 Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim
 
 Hi Steve:
 
 If you already have a silver screw rim, get it goldplated. 
 The cost is generally fairly minimal, especially compared to 
 purchasing a new gold plated rim. I've done this several 
 times with my silver screw rims. Look up silver and gold 
 plating firms in your yellow pages or, failing that, 
 sometimes music stores (particularly those specializing in brass
 instruments) can get it done for you or recommend a source.
 
 Richard in Seattle
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'The Horn List' horn@music.memphis.edu
 Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 9:56 AM
 Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim
 
 
  Ah.  I've tried one Giardinelli mouthpiece, a C12 one 
 piece, and liked the
  way I sound on it much better than on anything else, so I'm 
 going to stick
  with Giardinelli for the time being, particularly since 
 they're relatively
  inexpensive.  My teacher said that anything from an 8 to a 
 15 is fair game
  for me at this point in time, so I'm getting cups in 8, 12, 
 and 15, plus a
  gold and a silver rim so that I can experiment a bit to see 
 what, if any,
  difference there is.  The whole pile of cups and mouthpieces from
  Giardinelli, including one or two of their other series (G 
 or S, if memory
  serves), cost me all of $100 in total.  I guess these were 
 all discounts
 or
  closeouts of some sort.
 
  -S-
 
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   From:
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   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   du] On Behalf Of Chris Tedesco
   Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 11:53 AM
   To: The Horn List
   Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim
  
   Oh sorry, I wasn't referring to a Giardinelli rim, but to a
   Lawson.  I like the S series of rims from Giardinelli.
  
  
   Chris
   --- Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
Giardinelli sells the rim for less than $20, see
   
http://www.giardinelli.com/srs7/g=brass/s=french/search?c=6968
   
-S-
   
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 From:
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 du] On Behalf Of Chris Tedesco
 Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 11:37 AM
 To: The Horn List
 Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C 
 series Gold Rim

 Make sure there is a return policy.  I found out the 
 hard way I
 prefer silver rims after buying a near $100 rim with gold
   plating.
 I was however able to replace it with a silver rim and
   gold cup for
 a very funky looking mouthpiece!

 Chris
 --- Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I've settled on Giardinelli mouthpieces for the time
   being but I'd
  like to try a gold rim.  http://www.giardinelli.com is out
 of stock on
  the gold rim and isn't expecting them until March so I'd
 like to find another source.
 
  If anyone knows of somewhere that's got them in hand,
 please let me know.
  Or, of course, if anyone has one they'd like to sell,
   that would
  be fine with me, too - I don't need a new one.
 
  Many thanks.
 
  -S-
 
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RE: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim

2005-01-18 Thread Tim Costen
My trumpet playing / repairing friend Will Spencer does plating of 
mouthpieces and instruments here in the UK. He does a 3 micron 24 carat 
coating, costing about $30 US.

See http://www.willspencer.org/
Tim Costen
--On Tuesday, January 18, 2005 09:54:20 -0500 Steve Freides 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

For a jeweler whose never done this, are any particular instructions
necessary other than gold plating?  Thickness, 14 vs 24 or whatever
carats (sp?) - anything like that?
-S-
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du] On Behalf Of Richard V. West
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 8:20 PM
To: The Horn List
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim
Hi Steve:
If you already have a silver screw rim, get it goldplated.
The cost is generally fairly minimal, especially compared to
purchasing a new gold plated rim. I've done this several
times with my silver screw rims. Look up silver and gold
plating firms in your yellow pages or, failing that,
sometimes music stores (particularly those specializing in brass
instruments) can get it done for you or recommend a source.
Richard in Seattle
- Original Message -
From: Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'The Horn List' horn@music.memphis.edu
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 9:56 AM
Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim
 Ah.  I've tried one Giardinelli mouthpiece, a C12 one
piece, and liked the
 way I sound on it much better than on anything else, so I'm
going to stick
 with Giardinelli for the time being, particularly since
they're relatively
 inexpensive.  My teacher said that anything from an 8 to a
15 is fair game
 for me at this point in time, so I'm getting cups in 8, 12,
and 15, plus a
 gold and a silver rim so that I can experiment a bit to see
what, if any,
 difference there is.  The whole pile of cups and mouthpieces from
 Giardinelli, including one or two of their other series (G
or S, if memory
 serves), cost me all of $100 in total.  I guess these were
all discounts
or
 closeouts of some sort.

 -S-

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  From:
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  du] On Behalf Of Chris Tedesco
  Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 11:53 AM
  To: The Horn List
  Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim
 
  Oh sorry, I wasn't referring to a Giardinelli rim, but to a
  Lawson.  I like the S series of rims from Giardinelli.
 
 
  Chris
  --- Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Giardinelli sells the rim for less than $20, see
  
   http://www.giardinelli.com/srs7/g=brass/s=french/search?c=6968
  
   -S-
  
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From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
du] On Behalf Of Chris Tedesco
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 11:37 AM
To: The Horn List
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C
series Gold Rim
   
Make sure there is a return policy.  I found out the
hard way I
prefer silver rims after buying a near $100 rim with gold
  plating.
I was however able to replace it with a silver rim and
  gold cup for
a very funky looking mouthpiece!
   
Chris
--- Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 I've settled on Giardinelli mouthpieces for the time
  being but I'd
 like to try a gold rim.  http://www.giardinelli.com is out
of stock on
 the gold rim and isn't expecting them until March so I'd
like to find another source.

 If anyone knows of somewhere that's got them in hand,
please let me know.
 Or, of course, if anyone has one they'd like to sell,
  that would
 be fine with me, too - I don't need a new one.

 Many thanks.

 -S-

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RE: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim

2005-01-18 Thread hans
Gold plating is done in a galvanic process using 24-carat gold (pure
gold). The usual thicness is 5 micron to 15 micron.  A micron is 1/1000
of a mm.

You dont need to bring the mouthpiece to a jeweller, as he will not do
the gold plating himself. There are galvanic companies providing plating
service from chromium to gold, as said before. There are even (more
rare) companies specialized into silver  gold plating. Before gold
plating the piece has to be polished, ultra sonic degreased and silver
plated first. If it has not to be done in a rush, things go cheaper as
to be plated together with otzer customers things.




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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve
Freides
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 3:54 PM
To: 'The Horn List'
Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim


For a jeweler whose never done this, are any particular instructions
necessary other than gold plating?  Thickness, 14 vs 24 or whatever
carats
(sp?) - anything like that?

-S- 

 -Original Message-
 From:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 du] On Behalf Of Richard V. West
 Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 8:20 PM
 To: The Horn List
 Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim
 
 Hi Steve:
 
 If you already have a silver screw rim, get it goldplated.
 The cost is generally fairly minimal, especially compared to 
 purchasing a new gold plated rim. I've done this several 
 times with my silver screw rims. Look up silver and gold 
 plating firms in your yellow pages or, failing that, 
 sometimes music stores (particularly those specializing in brass
 instruments) can get it done for you or recommend a source.
 
 Richard in Seattle
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'The Horn List' horn@music.memphis.edu
 Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 9:56 AM
 Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim
 
 
  Ah.  I've tried one Giardinelli mouthpiece, a C12 one
 piece, and liked the
  way I sound on it much better than on anything else, so I'm
 going to stick
  with Giardinelli for the time being, particularly since
 they're relatively
  inexpensive.  My teacher said that anything from an 8 to a
 15 is fair game
  for me at this point in time, so I'm getting cups in 8, 12,
 and 15, plus a
  gold and a silver rim so that I can experiment a bit to see
 what, if any,
  difference there is.  The whole pile of cups and mouthpieces from 
  Giardinelli, including one or two of their other series (G
 or S, if memory
  serves), cost me all of $100 in total.  I guess these were
 all discounts
 or
  closeouts of some sort.
 
  -S-
 
   -Original Message-
   From:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   du] On Behalf Of Chris Tedesco
   Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 11:53 AM
   To: The Horn List
   Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim
  
   Oh sorry, I wasn't referring to a Giardinelli rim, but to a 
   Lawson.  I like the S series of rims from Giardinelli.
  
  
   Chris
   --- Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
Giardinelli sells the rim for less than $20, see
   
http://www.giardinelli.com/srs7/g=brass/s=french/search?c=6968
   
-S-
   
 -Original Message-
 From:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 du] On Behalf Of Chris Tedesco
 Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 11:37 AM
 To: The Horn List
 Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C
 series Gold Rim

 Make sure there is a return policy.  I found out the
 hard way I
 prefer silver rims after buying a near $100 rim with gold
   plating.
 I was however able to replace it with a silver rim and
   gold cup for
 a very funky looking mouthpiece!

 Chris
 --- Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I've settled on Giardinelli mouthpieces for the time
   being but I'd
  like to try a gold rim.  http://www.giardinelli.com is out
 of stock on
  the gold rim and isn't expecting them until March so I'd
 like to find another source.
 
  If anyone knows of somewhere that's got them in hand,
 please let me know.
  Or, of course, if anyone has one they'd like to sell,
   that would
  be fine with me, too - I don't need a new one.
 
  Many thanks.
 
  -S-
 
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Re: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim

2005-01-17 Thread Richard V. West
Hi Steve:

If you already have a silver screw rim, get it goldplated. The cost is
generally fairly minimal, especially compared to purchasing a new gold
plated rim. I've done this several times with my silver screw rims. Look up
silver and gold plating firms in your yellow pages or, failing that,
sometimes music stores (particularly those specializing in brass
instruments) can get it done for you or recommend a source.

Richard in Seattle

- Original Message - 
From: Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'The Horn List' horn@music.memphis.edu
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 9:56 AM
Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim


 Ah.  I've tried one Giardinelli mouthpiece, a C12 one piece, and liked the
 way I sound on it much better than on anything else, so I'm going to stick
 with Giardinelli for the time being, particularly since they're relatively
 inexpensive.  My teacher said that anything from an 8 to a 15 is fair game
 for me at this point in time, so I'm getting cups in 8, 12, and 15, plus a
 gold and a silver rim so that I can experiment a bit to see what, if any,
 difference there is.  The whole pile of cups and mouthpieces from
 Giardinelli, including one or two of their other series (G or S, if memory
 serves), cost me all of $100 in total.  I guess these were all discounts
or
 closeouts of some sort.

 -S-

  -Original Message-
  From:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  du] On Behalf Of Chris Tedesco
  Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 11:53 AM
  To: The Horn List
  Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim
 
  Oh sorry, I wasn't referring to a Giardinelli rim, but to a
  Lawson.  I like the S series of rims from Giardinelli.
 
 
  Chris
  --- Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Giardinelli sells the rim for less than $20, see
  
   http://www.giardinelli.com/srs7/g=brass/s=french/search?c=6968
  
   -S-
  
-Original Message-
From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
du] On Behalf Of Chris Tedesco
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 11:37 AM
To: The Horn List
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim
   
Make sure there is a return policy.  I found out the hard way I
prefer silver rims after buying a near $100 rim with gold
  plating.
I was however able to replace it with a silver rim and
  gold cup for
a very funky looking mouthpiece!
   
Chris
--- Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 I've settled on Giardinelli mouthpieces for the time
  being but I'd
 like to try a gold rim.  http://www.giardinelli.com is out
of stock on
 the gold rim and isn't expecting them until March so I'd
like to find another source.

 If anyone knows of somewhere that's got them in hand,
please let me know.
 Or, of course, if anyone has one they'd like to sell,
  that would
 be fine with me, too - I don't need a new one.

 Many thanks.

 -S-

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Re: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim

2005-01-16 Thread Chris Tedesco
Make sure there is a return policy.  I found out the hard way I prefer silver
rims after buying a near $100 rim with gold plating.  I was however able to
replace it with a silver rim and gold cup for a very funky looking mouthpiece!

Chris
--- Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've settled on Giardinelli mouthpieces for the time being but I'd like to
 try a gold rim.  http://www.giardinelli.com is out of stock on the gold rim
 and isn't expecting them until March so I'd like to find another source.  
 
 If anyone knows of somewhere that's got them in hand, please let me know.
 Or, of course, if anyone has one they'd like to sell, that would be fine
 with me, too - I don't need a new one.
 
 Many thanks.
 
 -S-
 
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RE: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim

2005-01-16 Thread Steve Freides
Giardinelli sells the rim for less than $20, see

http://www.giardinelli.com/srs7/g=brass/s=french/search?c=6968

-S-

 -Original Message-
 From: 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 du] On Behalf Of Chris Tedesco
 Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 11:37 AM
 To: The Horn List
 Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim
 
 Make sure there is a return policy.  I found out the hard way 
 I prefer silver rims after buying a near $100 rim with gold 
 plating.  I was however able to replace it with a silver rim 
 and gold cup for a very funky looking mouthpiece!
 
 Chris
 --- Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I've settled on Giardinelli mouthpieces for the time being but I'd 
  like to try a gold rim.  http://www.giardinelli.com is out 
 of stock on 
  the gold rim and isn't expecting them until March so I'd 
 like to find another source.
  
  If anyone knows of somewhere that's got them in hand, 
 please let me know.
  Or, of course, if anyone has one they'd like to sell, that would be 
  fine with me, too - I don't need a new one.
  
  Many thanks.
  
  -S-
  
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RE: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim

2005-01-16 Thread Chris Tedesco
Oh sorry, I wasn't referring to a Giardinelli rim, but to a Lawson.  I like the
S series of rims from Giardinelli.  


Chris
--- Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Giardinelli sells the rim for less than $20, see
 
 http://www.giardinelli.com/srs7/g=brass/s=french/search?c=6968
 
 -S-
 
  -Original Message-
  From: 
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  du] On Behalf Of Chris Tedesco
  Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 11:37 AM
  To: The Horn List
  Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim
  
  Make sure there is a return policy.  I found out the hard way 
  I prefer silver rims after buying a near $100 rim with gold 
  plating.  I was however able to replace it with a silver rim 
  and gold cup for a very funky looking mouthpiece!
  
  Chris
  --- Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I've settled on Giardinelli mouthpieces for the time being but I'd 
   like to try a gold rim.  http://www.giardinelli.com is out 
  of stock on 
   the gold rim and isn't expecting them until March so I'd 
  like to find another source.
   
   If anyone knows of somewhere that's got them in hand, 
  please let me know.
   Or, of course, if anyone has one they'd like to sell, that would be 
   fine with me, too - I don't need a new one.
   
   Many thanks.
   
   -S-
   
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RE: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim

2005-01-16 Thread Steve Freides
Ah.  I've tried one Giardinelli mouthpiece, a C12 one piece, and liked the
way I sound on it much better than on anything else, so I'm going to stick
with Giardinelli for the time being, particularly since they're relatively
inexpensive.  My teacher said that anything from an 8 to a 15 is fair game
for me at this point in time, so I'm getting cups in 8, 12, and 15, plus a
gold and a silver rim so that I can experiment a bit to see what, if any,
difference there is.  The whole pile of cups and mouthpieces from
Giardinelli, including one or two of their other series (G or S, if memory
serves), cost me all of $100 in total.  I guess these were all discounts or
closeouts of some sort.

-S-

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 From: 
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 du] On Behalf Of Chris Tedesco
 Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 11:53 AM
 To: The Horn List
 Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim
 
 Oh sorry, I wasn't referring to a Giardinelli rim, but to a 
 Lawson.  I like the S series of rims from Giardinelli.  
 
 
 Chris
 --- Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Giardinelli sells the rim for less than $20, see
  
  http://www.giardinelli.com/srs7/g=brass/s=french/search?c=6968
  
  -S-
  
   -Original Message-
   From: 
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   du] On Behalf Of Chris Tedesco
   Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 11:37 AM
   To: The Horn List
   Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim
   
   Make sure there is a return policy.  I found out the hard way I 
   prefer silver rims after buying a near $100 rim with gold 
 plating.  
   I was however able to replace it with a silver rim and 
 gold cup for 
   a very funky looking mouthpiece!
   
   Chris
   --- Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
I've settled on Giardinelli mouthpieces for the time 
 being but I'd 
like to try a gold rim.  http://www.giardinelli.com is out
   of stock on
the gold rim and isn't expecting them until March so I'd
   like to find another source.

If anyone knows of somewhere that's got them in hand,
   please let me know.
Or, of course, if anyone has one they'd like to sell, 
 that would 
be fine with me, too - I don't need a new one.

Many thanks.

-S-

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