Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[Steve Freides]

Klaus, fascinating - thank you.

-S-

On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Klaus Smedegaard
Bjerre wrote:
> This is interesting, as I suspected another country to be falsely mentioned.
> I did not have the Hatikva in my immediate memory, but heard the choir 
> version from this page:
> <http://www.science.co.il/Israel-anthem.asp>
>
> The Moldau theme is not of Bohemian-Moravian origins. Smetana was a choir 
> master in Gothenburg in Sweden, where he heard the traditional Ack Värmeland 
> Du Sköna.
>  Klaus in DK
> --- On Mon, 6/29/09, Steve Freides  wrote:
>
> From: Steve Freides 
> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings
> To: "The Horn List" 
> Date: Monday, June 29, 2009, 5:39 PM
>
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 10:19 AM,  wrote:
>>>>what country's national anthem is based on the main theme
>> from the Moldau?
>>
>> Israel--Hatikvah
>>
>> EWW
>
> Yup!  With an interesting change in meter but the same basic shape to
> the melody.
>
> -S-
>
>
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: Steve Freides 
>> To: The Horn List 
>> Sent: Mon, Jun 29, 2009 9:29 am
>> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Jeremy Cucco 
>> wrote:
>>> The Moldau? ?Or is there a triangle with the flute?
>>
>> I'm pretty sure there's something else (is it a triangle?  OK) with
>> the flute right at the very beginning.
>>
>> I teach this piece in Music Appreciation regularly but I don't own a
>> score - if anyone happens to have a study orchestra score they'd like
>> to sell, please contact me off the list and thanks.
>>
>> Trivia - what country's national anthem is based on the main theme
>> from the Moldau?
>>
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Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[David Lamb]

I almost forgot... the second movement (Vivace) of my piece for horn and 
chamber orchestra begins with a horn solo.


If you want to hear it, go to www.classical.net, in the upper RH corner 
where it says "Site search" search for Lamb.  Next scroll down to #9 and 
click on MP3.  There you will find a list of my things.  Click on "Song & 
Dance" where you can read about and listen to the piece.


David Lamb in Seattle 


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Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[Bill Tyler]

Is it too late for another one?

If I remember correctly ... Sibelius Symphony #7 ... tympani



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> From: Robert N. Ward 
> Subject: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings
> To: "Horn Mailing List - old" , "Horn Mailing List 
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> Date: Sunday, June 28, 2009, 9:46 PM
> Hello all,
> 
> Now that we are moving into summer, how about a little game
> to test your knowledge:
> 
> Name compositions for orchestra (including concerti) that
> begin with a one single, solo instrument.
> 
> I'll get you started:
> 
> Debussy: Afternoon of a Faun
> Stravinsky: Rite of Spring
> Brahms: Piano Concerto No. 2
> 
> Have at it!
> 
> Bob
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Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[HornCabbage]

My Concerto for Brass Trio and Orchestra starts with a wood block solo.
And my Concertini for Toy Piano and Orchestra starts with a cello solo.

Gotta go,
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Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

This is interesting, as I suspected another country to be falsely mentioned.
I did not have the Hatikva in my immediate memory, but heard the choir version 
from this page:
<http://www.science.co.il/Israel-anthem.asp>

The Moldau theme is not of Bohemian-Moravian origins. Smetana was a choir 
master in Gothenburg in Sweden, where he heard the traditional Ack Värmeland Du 
Sköna.
 Klaus in DK
--- On Mon, 6/29/09, Steve Freides  wrote:

From: Steve Freides 
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings
To: "The Horn List" 
Date: Monday, June 29, 2009, 5:39 PM

On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 10:19 AM,  wrote:
>>>what country's national anthem is based on the main theme
> from the Moldau?
>
> Israel--Hatikvah
>
> EWW

Yup!  With an interesting change in meter but the same basic shape to
the melody.

-S-


> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Freides 
> To: The Horn List 
> Sent: Mon, Jun 29, 2009 9:29 am
> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Jeremy Cucco 
> wrote:
>> The Moldau? ?Or is there a triangle with the flute?
>
> I'm pretty sure there's something else (is it a triangle?  OK) with
> the flute right at the very beginning.
>
> I teach this piece in Music Appreciation regularly but I don't own a
> score - if anyone happens to have a study orchestra score they'd like
> to sell, please contact me off the list and thanks.
>
> Trivia - what country's national anthem is based on the main theme
> from the Moldau?
>
> -S-
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Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[David Goldberg]

It's a fine semantic point, whether "compositions for orchestra" implies 
for only orchestra, thus making it necessary for Bob to specify concerti 
as exceptions which he wants to also count.  But words mean what we want 
them to mean.  "We" in this case, means "Bob".  So maybe Bob wants us to 
stretch our knowledge to include operettas.  If you dismiss operettas as 
orchestral compositions, then you can also justify dismissing cantatas, 
oratorios, Carmina Burana and Mahler's 4th symphony.


"Start" has to be stretched some to include anything after the 1st note 
of the composition; the 1st note of a 2nd movement or 2nd act would 
probably not hold up in a court of law - imagine that you commission a 
composer to write an orchestral piece that "starts" with a solo for you, 
and then it turns out that your solo begins say, the 3rd movement.  
Would that constitute a violation of contract?  Gilbert would enjoy such 
a legal tangle.


At least one edition of the score for H.M.S. Pinafore has "Act II" 
beginning with an Entr'acte (how is THAT meaningful in any semantic 
universe?), which doesn't begin with a solo instrument.  This is 
followed by #13, the Captain's aria, "Fair moon", which does begin with 
a 4-bar horn solo.  So if you dismiss the impossible situation where the 
Entr'acte is part of Act II, then Act II starts with a horn solo.  See 
it here:

http://imslp.info/files/imglnks/usimg/1/15/IMSLP19141-PMLP40968-Sullivan_Pinafore_Horns.pdf

David G.,
Picker Of Nits


Steve Haflich wrote:

Kit Wolf  wrote:

   I don't know whether individual movements should count, but Gilbert and
   Sullivan's HMS Pinafore, 2nd act starts with a horn solo - as I recall.

Bob asked about compositions for orchestra, and HMS Pinafore hardly
qualifies.  It is an operetta, and the first number in Act II is an aria
for the the captain.

One might accept an opera overture as a piece for orchestra since some
are so often extracted, and also some conceert pieces that include
incidental voices (e.g. Beethoven 9, Mahler 4).  But pieces that are not
primarily orchestral belong in a different category..

I think someone may have mentioned the Op.80 Beethoven Choral Fantasy --
that weird duck is a hard one to categorize, but should probably be
considered a Chorale piece (that begins with solo piano).  His
_Wellingtons Seig_ starts with drum solo, although the score uses the
plural "Trommeln" which suggests multiple players.
  


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[Kit Wolf]

> Kit Wolf  wrote:
>
>I don't know whether individual movements should count, but Gilbert and
>Sullivan's HMS Pinafore, 2nd act starts with a horn solo - as I recall.
>
> Bob asked about compositions for orchestra, and HMS Pinafore hardly
> qualifies.  It is an operetta, and the first number in Act II is an aria
> for the the captain.

Fair enough...

Kit


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Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[Steve Haflich]

Kit Wolf  wrote:

   I don't know whether individual movements should count, but Gilbert and
   Sullivan's HMS Pinafore, 2nd act starts with a horn solo - as I recall.

Bob asked about compositions for orchestra, and HMS Pinafore hardly
qualifies.  It is an operetta, and the first number in Act II is an aria
for the the captain.

One might accept an opera overture as a piece for orchestra since some
are so often extracted, and also some conceert pieces that include
incidental voices (e.g. Beethoven 9, Mahler 4).  But pieces that are not
primarily orchestral belong in a different category..

I think someone may have mentioned the Op.80 Beethoven Choral Fantasy --
that weird duck is a hard one to categorize, but should probably be
considered a Chorale piece (that begins with solo piano).  His
_Wellingtons Seig_ starts with drum solo, although the score uses the
plural "Trommeln" which suggests multiple players.
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Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[Steve Freides]

On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 10:19 AM,  wrote:
>>>what country's national anthem is based on the main theme
> from the Moldau?
>
> Israel--Hatikvah
>
> EWW

Yup!  With an interesting change in meter but the same basic shape to
the melody.

-S-


> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Freides 
> To: The Horn List 
> Sent: Mon, Jun 29, 2009 9:29 am
> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Jeremy Cucco 
> wrote:
>> The Moldau? ?Or is there a triangle with the flute?
>
> I'm pretty sure there's something else (is it a triangle?  OK) with
> the flute right at the very beginning.
>
> I teach this piece in Music Appreciation regularly but I don't own a
> score - if anyone happens to have a study orchestra score they'd like
> to sell, please contact me off the list and thanks.
>
> Trivia - what country's national anthem is based on the main theme
> from the Moldau?
>
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Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[eww02]

>>what country's national anthem is based on the main theme
from the Moldau?

Israel--Hatikvah

EWW


-Original Message-
From: Steve Freides 
To: The Horn List 
Sent: Mon, Jun 29, 2009 9:29 am
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings



On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Jeremy Cucco wrote:
> The Moldau? ?Or is there a triangle with the flute?

I'm pretty sure there's something else (is it a triangle?  OK) with
the flute right at the very beginning.

I teach this piece in Music Appreciation regularly but I don't own a
score - if anyone happens to have a study orchestra score they'd like
to sell, please contact me off the list and thanks.

Trivia - what country's national anthem is based on the main theme
from the Moldau?

-S-
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Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[David Lamb]

Name compositions for orchestra (including concerti) that begin with a
one single, solo instrument.


Bernstein:  Facsimile

David Lamb in Seattle
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Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[Kit Wolf]

I don't know whether individual movements should count, but Gilbert and
Sullivan's HMS Pinafore, 2nd act starts with a horn solo - as I recall.

Kit


> Hello all,
>
> Now that we are moving into summer, how about a little game to test
> your knowledge:
>
> Name compositions for orchestra (including concerti) that begin with a
> one single, solo instrument.
>
> I'll get you started:
>
> Debussy: Afternoon of a Faun
> Stravinsky: Rite of Spring
> Brahms: Piano Concerto No. 2
>
> Have at it!
>
> Bob
>
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Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[Steve Freides]

On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Jeremy Cucco wrote:
> The Moldau?  Or is there a triangle with the flute?

I'm pretty sure there's something else (is it a triangle?  OK) with
the flute right at the very beginning.

I teach this piece in Music Appreciation regularly but I don't own a
score - if anyone happens to have a study orchestra score they'd like
to sell, please contact me off the list and thanks.

Trivia - what country's national anthem is based on the main theme
from the Moldau?

-S-
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Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[Jeremy Cucco]

Let's not forget at least one movement of Symphonie Fantastique.



On Jun 29, 2009, at 12:48 AM, "Robert N. Ward"   
wrote:



Bzzzt - there is a harp note with the flute's first note.

B

On Jun 28, 2009, at 8:38 PM, Jeremy Cucco wrote:


The Moldau?  Or is there a triangle with the flute?



On Jun 28, 2009, at 9:46 PM, "Robert N. Ward"   
wrote:



Hello all,

Now that we are moving into summer, how about a little game to  
test your knowledge:


Name compositions for orchestra (including concerti) that begin  
with a one single, solo instrument.


I'll get you started:

Debussy: Afternoon of a Faun
Stravinsky: Rite of Spring
Brahms: Piano Concerto No. 2

Have at it!

Bob

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Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[Jeremy Cucco]

Well...allow me to redeem myself:
Liszt's Orpheus
Mahler Symphony No 7 Mvmnt 2
Hanson Fanfare for the Signal Corps

Cheers-
J



On Jun 29, 2009, at 12:48 AM, "Robert N. Ward"   
wrote:



Bzzzt - there is a harp note with the flute's first note.

B

On Jun 28, 2009, at 8:38 PM, Jeremy Cucco wrote:


The Moldau?  Or is there a triangle with the flute?



On Jun 28, 2009, at 9:46 PM, "Robert N. Ward"   
wrote:



Hello all,

Now that we are moving into summer, how about a little game to  
test your knowledge:


Name compositions for orchestra (including concerti) that begin  
with a one single, solo instrument.


I'll get you started:

Debussy: Afternoon of a Faun
Stravinsky: Rite of Spring
Brahms: Piano Concerto No. 2

Have at it!

Bob

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Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[Tim Costen]

"Le Chasseur Maudit" (Caesar Franck)  - 4th horn solo
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Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[Robert N. Ward]

Yes, every Tuesday night I pitch softball righthanded.

:)

B

On Jun 28, 2009, at 10:02 PM, Steve Haflich wrote:


 Bob Ward -- Are you a RHP?


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Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[Steve Haflich]

Simon Varnam  wrote:

   Schubert: Symphony #9 in C
   Too obvious?

To quote Bob, "Bzzzt...nope."  It's _doubled_ by the two horns.

By the way, this is a quite interesting 8-measure theme.  It is piano
and undemarcated in the initial horn renditions.  But see sudden change
from p to pp in the last two measures.

This theme is not the usual 4+4=8 measures.  It is (nearly always)
3+3+2.  See the orchestration and dynamics of the several renditions
that follow the initial horn rendition.  This might reflect on how the
pair or corno should perform the initial theme.

Schubert's use of compound measures is worth study.  Compare the very
odd initial statement of the theme in the Unfinished.  When I was in a
grad school seminar Prof Maury Yeston (the same dude as the composer of
_Nine_) was presented this problem by a member of the class and
extempore came up with a very convincing analysis that invoked his
earlier treatise _The Stratification of Musical Rhythm_ (1976).  The
rhythm is (almost) symmetrical, creating metrical closure over the
initial 6 measures.

Unrelated, but for Schubert 9 I've always thought that Real Horn Players
should press down their 1+3 valves and play this opening piano passage
using only hand technique.  Think about the eloquent shading this
provides in the second measure.  Bob Ward -- Are you a RHP?
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Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[Robert N. Ward]

Sibelius 1 is correct because the tympani is alone for half a bar.

On Jun 28, 2009, at 9:34 PM, Robert N. Ward wrote:


Sibelius #1  almost makes it except for the timpani.


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Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[Robert N. Ward]

Bzzzt - there is a harp note with the flute's first note.

B

On Jun 28, 2009, at 8:38 PM, Jeremy Cucco wrote:


The Moldau?  Or is there a triangle with the flute?



On Jun 28, 2009, at 9:46 PM, "Robert N. Ward"   
wrote:



Hello all,

Now that we are moving into summer, how about a little game to test  
your knowledge:


Name compositions for orchestra (including concerti) that begin  
with a one single, solo instrument.


I'll get you started:

Debussy: Afternoon of a Faun
Stravinsky: Rite of Spring
Brahms: Piano Concerto No. 2

Have at it!

Bob

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rnw...@comcast.net





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Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[Robert N. Ward]

Bzzt - Bzzzt - Scubert 9 begins with TWO horns, Beethoven 1 is the  
second violin section in the second movement.


B

On Jun 28, 2009, at 9:33 PM, Simon Varnam wrote:


Schubert: Symphony #9 in C
Too obvious?

Beethoven: Symphony #1 second Mvt
or doesn't 2nd violin count as solo?
:-)

Simon
- - - - - - - - - -
On 2009/06/29, at 12:39, horn-requ...@music.memphis.edu wrote:

Name compositions for orchestra (including concerti) that begin  
with a

one single, solo instrument.

I'll get you started:

Debussy: Afternoon of a Faun
Stravinsky: Rite of Spring
Brahms: Piano Concerto No. 2

Have at it!

Bob


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Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[Robert N. Ward]

Bzzzt...nope. Bruckner 4 starts with tremolo strings.

B

On Jun 28, 2009, at 9:28 PM, Ms Lisa Honeycutt wrote:


Weber: Oberon.
Bruckner: Symphony #4 in E-flat major




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Subject: Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

Enesco First Romanian Rhapsody


In a message dated 6/28/2009 10:42:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jdl...@q.com writes:



Name compositions for orchestra (including  concerti) that begin  
with

a one single, solo  instrument.


How about:

Mahler #5
Schmidt  #4
Beethoven Piano Concerto #4
Rhapsody in Blue

Sibelius #1  almost makes it except for the timpani.

David Lamb in  Seattle
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Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[Simon Varnam]

Schubert: Symphony #9 in C
Too obvious?

Beethoven: Symphony #1 second Mvt
or doesn't 2nd violin count as solo?
:-)

Simon
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On 2009/06/29, at 12:39, horn-requ...@music.memphis.edu wrote:


Name compositions for orchestra (including concerti) that begin with a
one single, solo instrument.

I'll get you started:

Debussy: Afternoon of a Faun
Stravinsky: Rite of Spring
Brahms: Piano Concerto No. 2

Have at it!

Bob


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Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[Ms Lisa Honeycutt]

Weber: Oberon. 
Bruckner: Symphony #4 in E-flat major




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Enesco First Romanian Rhapsody


In a message dated 6/28/2009 10:42:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
jdl...@q.com writes:

>>
>> Name compositions for orchestra (including  concerti) that begin with  
>> a one single, solo  instrument.
>>
How about:

Mahler #5
Schmidt  #4
Beethoven Piano Concerto #4
Rhapsody in Blue

Sibelius #1  almost makes it except for the timpani.  

David Lamb in  Seattle
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Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[Punto]

Franz Schmidt 4th Symphony - the trumpet plays a quasi-tonal 12 note theme at 
the beginning which reappears in the horn later in the movement. An overlooked 
late romantic monument that should satisfy and Mahler or Strauss addict.

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Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[Jeremy Cucco]

The Moldau?  Or is there a triangle with the flute?



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wrote:



Hello all,

Now that we are moving into summer, how about a little game to test  
your knowledge:


Name compositions for orchestra (including concerti) that begin with  
a one single, solo instrument.


I'll get you started:

Debussy: Afternoon of a Faun
Stravinsky: Rite of Spring
Brahms: Piano Concerto No. 2

Have at it!

Bob

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Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[Steve Haflich]

Steve Haflich  wrote:

   Perhaps concerti should have been excluded, at least where the initial
   solo entrance is the soloist.  There are probably numerous examples,
   especially for keyboard.

[Save me -- I've started responding to my own posts!]

Ravel's Tzigane first appeared with accompaniment by luthéal, then
piano, and finally with Ravel's own orchestration.  But in all versions
the solo violin plays alone for six or seven hours before the
accompaniment enters.
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Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[Eww02]

Enesco First Romanian Rhapsody
 
 
In a message dated 6/28/2009 10:42:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
jdl...@q.com writes:

>>
>> Name compositions for orchestra (including  concerti) that begin with  
>> a one single, solo  instrument.
>>
How about:

Mahler #5
Schmidt  #4
Beethoven Piano Concerto #4
Rhapsody in Blue

Sibelius #1  almost makes it except for the timpani.  

David Lamb in  Seattle
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Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[Steve Haflich]

Steve Haflich  wrote:
   
   Beethoven Violin Concerto.

The Grieg Piano Concerto is similar.
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Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[David Lamb]

Name compositions for orchestra (including concerti) that begin with  
a one single, solo instrument.



How about:

Mahler #5
Schmidt #4
Beethoven Piano Concerto #4
Rhapsody in Blue

Sibelius #1 almost makes it except for the timpani.  


David Lamb in Seattle
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Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[Bill Tyler]

These start with trumpet ...

Wagner: Rienzi Overture
Rimski-Korsakov: Le Coq d'or
Shostakovich: Symphony #1
Prokofiev: Lieutenant Kije
Mahler: 5

and one with horn ... 

Ippolitov-Ivanov: Caucasian Sketches Suite #1

Bill


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> Hello all,
> 
> Now that we are moving into summer, how about a little game
> to test your knowledge:
> 
> Name compositions for orchestra (including concerti) that
> begin with a one single, solo instrument.
> 
> I'll get you started:
> 
> Debussy: Afternoon of a Faun
> Stravinsky: Rite of Spring
> Brahms: Piano Concerto No. 2
> 
> Have at it!
> 
> Bob
> 
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Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[Dan Phillips]

On Jun 28, 2009, at 9:28 PM, Steve Haflich wrote:


Nearly everyone knows the first instrument to enter in Sacre.  Much
tougher, without consulting a store, is identifying the second
instrument to enter. also a solo.  It's hard to identify even from a
recording, which I think was Stravinsky's intention.




Why, 2nd horn, of course :-)

Dan


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Rudi E. Scheidt School of Music
University of Memphis
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Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[Steve Haflich]

Nearly everyone knows the first instrument to enter in Sacre.  Much
tougher, without consulting a store, is identifying the second
instrument to enter. also a solo.  It's hard to identify even from a
recording, which I think was Stravinsky's intention.

Perhaps concerti should have been excluded, at least where the initial
solo entrance is the soloist.  There are probably numerous examples,
especially for keyboard.

Offhand, Other legitimate examples would be:

Beethoven Violin Concerto.
Rhapsody in Blue
Mahler 5th
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Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[Leigh Alexander]

Rienzi

Leigh
On Jun 28, 2009, at 9:46 PM, Robert N. Ward wrote:


Hello all,

Now that we are moving into summer, how about a little game to test  
your knowledge:


Name compositions for orchestra (including concerti) that begin with  
a one single, solo instrument.


I'll get you started:

Debussy: Afternoon of a Faun
Stravinsky: Rite of Spring
Brahms: Piano Concerto No. 2

Have at it!

Bob

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RE: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[scott44y]

Brahms Piano Concerto #2
 
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> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:46:26 -0700
> CC: 
> Subject: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> Now that we are moving into summer, how about a little game to test 
> your knowledge:
> 
> Name compositions for orchestra (including concerti) that begin with a 
> one single, solo instrument.
> 
> I'll get you started:
> 
> Debussy: Afternoon of a Faun
> Stravinsky: Rite of Spring
> Brahms: Piano Concerto No. 2
> 
> Have at it!
> 
> Bob
> 
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> 
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Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[Aleks Ozolins]

Rite of Spring!

On Jun 28, 2009, at 10:11 PM, GEORGE HYDE wrote:


Well, obviously the Oberon Overture...  - G.W. Hyde
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 Subject: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings


 Hello all,

 Now that we are moving into summer, how about a little game to test
 your knowledge:

 Name compositions for orchestra (including concerti) that begin  
with a

 one single, solo instrument.

 I'll get you started:

 Debussy: Afternoon of a Faun
 Stravinsky: Rite of Spring
 Brahms: Piano Concerto No. 2

 Have at it!

 Bob

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 Principal Horn
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[GEORGE HYDE]

Well, obviously the Oberon Overture...  - G.W. Hyde
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  From: Robert N. Ward 
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List New 
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  Subject: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings


  Hello all,

  Now that we are moving into summer, how about a little game to test  
  your knowledge:

  Name compositions for orchestra (including concerti) that begin with a  
  one single, solo instrument.

  I'll get you started:

  Debussy: Afternoon of a Faun
  Stravinsky: Rite of Spring
  Brahms: Piano Concerto No. 2

  Have at it!

  Bob

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Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[Steve Freides]

Not sure how many folks here would get this one, but as guitar is my
main instrument:

The Concierto de Aranjuez by Joaquin Rodrigo (otherwise known as just
the Rodrigo Guitar Concerto).  The first movement starts with solo
guitar.

The second movement is the most well-known and deservedly so - it's
absolutely beautiful and features the English Horn as well as the
guitar near the beginning.  The entire concerto is a real treat to
listen to.

-S-


On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Robert N. Ward wrote:
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>
> Now that we are moving into summer, how about a little game to test your
> knowledge:
>
> Name compositions for orchestra (including concerti) that begin with a one
> single, solo instrument.
>
> I'll get you started:
>
> Debussy: Afternoon of a Faun
> Stravinsky: Rite of Spring
> Brahms: Piano Concerto No. 2
>
> Have at it!
>
> Bob
>
> **
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> rnw...@comcast.net
>
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>
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Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[Dan Malloy Jr]

Weber - Oberon Overture
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RE: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[Bill Gross]

1.  Flute
2.  Basson
3.  IDN 

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Subject: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

Hello all,

Now that we are moving into summer, how about a little game to test your
knowledge:

Name compositions for orchestra (including concerti) that begin with a one
single, solo instrument.

I'll get you started:

Debussy: Afternoon of a Faun
Stravinsky: Rite of Spring
Brahms: Piano Concerto No. 2

Have at it!

Bob

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RE: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[John Baumgart]

R. Strauss: Horn Concerto 2
R. Strauss: Burlesque

John Baumgart

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Hello all,

Now that we are moving into summer, how about a little game to test  
your knowledge:

Name compositions for orchestra (including concerti) that begin with a  
one single, solo instrument.

I'll get you started:

Debussy: Afternoon of a Faun
Stravinsky: Rite of Spring
Brahms: Piano Concerto No. 2

Have at it!

Bob

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