Re: [HOT] CAR Activation; experienced mappers to finish the import of UNICEF data?
Hi Rafael, My comments inline (I deleted my first message; I do not understand why a whole wikipage shows up). > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 13:15:24 +0100 > From: Rafael Avila Coya > To: hot@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [HOT] CAR Activation; experienced mappers to finish the > import of UNICEF data? > Message-ID: <52b6d7dc.9070...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, S?verin: > > I will be glad to collaborate in this import. > Thanks! > > Its wiki is very clear, but I have a small question: > > In the UNICEF import wiki it says, in the "Roads" subsection ( > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_CAR_UNICEF_workflow#Roads ), > that if a road doesn't exist, we can use the workflow for the WRI data > import. > > In the "Road network" section of the WRI import wiki it says the job > will be coordinated through the job http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/219 , > but once you go there, there is a note that says: THIS JOB IS > UNDERTAKEN BY A SPECIFIC TEAM, PLEASE DO NO PROCESS IT. > Actually, I had in mind to use Bing imagery to trace the roads; I added that to the Wiki page. WRI imagery is not accurate for roads and would serve only as an indication of the existence of a road to be traced with Bing Imagery. Anyway I think process to one import + one check on another source would be tricky > > What to do then? > > I can start working with the UNICEF import, but will ignore that road > WRI import for the time being, to save time. > WRI data import will be interesting for the landuses (this data has been created from remote sensing), but it is not a priority for the moment > > Cheers, > > Rafael ?vila. > > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 19:26:17 +0100 > From: Rafael Avila Coya > To: hot@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [HOT] CAR Activation; experienced mappers to finish the > import of UNICEF data? > Message-ID: <52b72ec9.1090...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi again: > > I am just importing the data for a tile as a test (the one that has > Berb?rati town in the SE corner ( http://osm.org/go/wJ4HSfE- )). > > I've seen three things that I am in doubt: > > In the Education import: > > 1) All schools have a 'fixme' tag that doesn't make any sense for me, > and that I left unchanged. They are like fixme=16.9603;7.62196 . They > look geolocation data, but they don't match with the latitude/longitude > of the place at all. One example is this node (?cole Saint Beris): > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2590517305 The key was not a good choice when set: it is not a fixme, but actually just a remember of te original poisiton of the UNICEF data. But I am surprised you say it does not matchwith the actual place > > > 2) Some schools have the 'capacity:classrooms', 'capacity:pupils' and > 'capacity:teachers' with value "0". Shouldn't it be set to "unknown" in > case there is no data of number of classrooms and pupils/teachers > capacity, as it doensn't make sense a school without classrooms, nor > pupils nor teachers? > Right, the original data was with 0, but unknown would be better. > > I am now with the Water wells import: > > 3) All nodes have a 'operator' tag that is set to "yes" or "no". I think > this should be wrong. Even if we think that the mistake is about mixing > 'operator' with 'operational_status' tags, it isn't again the point, as > there are wells that are set with operational_status=closed + > operator=yes, and wells that have operational_status=open + operator=no. > Actually operator measns if there is someone specifically caring for the water well. If this is a community one, operator=no > > As for the Health import I didn't spot any problem, but I would suggest > to add to the wiki the meaning of the abbreviations to help mappers to > change the names accordingly: > > CS = Centre de Sant? > PS = Poste de Sant? > HR = H?pital Regional > Good idea > ... > > Cheers, > > Rafael. > > ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] CAR Activation; experienced mappers to finish the import of UNICEF data?
> From: Rafael Avila Coya [mailto:ravilac...@gmail.com] > Subject: Re: [HOT] CAR Activation; experienced mappers to finish the > import of UNICEF data? > > Hi again: > > I am just importing the data for a tile as a test (the one that has > Berbérati town in the SE corner ( http://osm.org/go/wJ4HSfE- )). > > I've seen three things that I am in doubt: > > In the Education import: > > 1) All schools have a 'fixme' tag that doesn't make any sense for me, > and that I left unchanged. They are like fixme=16.9603;7.62196 . They > look geolocation data, but they don't match with the latitude/longitude > of the place at all. One example is this node (École Saint Beris): > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2590517305 I had a look at this and there are a number of tags which are not in the Proposal which was consulted on with imports@. Please hold off doing any more of these imports until these issues get Resolved, or the changes are consulted on. Also, for the fixme, I'd suggest deleting it when you've got the position right. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] CAR Activation; experienced mappers to finish the import of UNICEF data?
Hi again: I am just importing the data for a tile as a test (the one that has Berbérati town in the SE corner ( http://osm.org/go/wJ4HSfE- )). I've seen three things that I am in doubt: In the Education import: 1) All schools have a 'fixme' tag that doesn't make any sense for me, and that I left unchanged. They are like fixme=16.9603;7.62196 . They look geolocation data, but they don't match with the latitude/longitude of the place at all. One example is this node (École Saint Beris): http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2590517305 2) Some schools have the 'capacity:classrooms', 'capacity:pupils' and 'capacity:teachers' with value "0". Shouldn't it be set to "unknown" in case there is no data of number of classrooms and pupils/teachers capacity, as it doensn't make sense a school without classrooms, nor pupils nor teachers? I am now with the Water wells import: 3) All nodes have a 'operator' tag that is set to "yes" or "no". I think this should be wrong. Even if we think that the mistake is about mixing 'operator' with 'operational_status' tags, it isn't again the point, as there are wells that are set with operational_status=closed + operator=yes, and wells that have operational_status=open + operator=no. As for the Health import I didn't spot any problem, but I would suggest to add to the wiki the meaning of the abbreviations to help mappers to change the names accordingly: CS = Centre de Santé PS = Poste de Santé HR = Hôpital Regional ... Cheers, Rafael. On 21/12/13 23:52, Severin MENARD wrote: > Hi, > > As part of the CAR wikiproject and the HOT Activation < WikiProject > Central African Republic Aide Available languages • English • français > show Other languages — Help us translating this wiki Central African > Republic, Africa Latitude: (6.0, Longitude: 21.0 Browse Central African > Republic map Edit map Users in Central African Republic GPS traces > Wallpaper: 1024x768, 1280x800 Check Map Features via Query-to-map Check > streets with no-names Geohack for OSM with more maps External links: OSM > Inspector OpenStreetBrowser Notes OpenStreetBugs GIS Data Extracts via > WeoGeo MapDust Keep Right! Coastline checker Public transport Wikipedia: > en,fr Google (& Image search) Webshots Geolocation OpenStreetMap > Contributors Map housenumbervalidator Use this template for your city • > What do the links do? Central African Republic is a Country in Africa at > latitude 6° 0′ 0″ North, longitude 21° 0′ 0″ East. Sommaire [masquer] 1 > Map of Central African Republic 2 HOT in Central African Republic 3 RCA > crisis - HOT Activation - mapping goals 3.1 Highlights 3.2 Ongoing: > Mapping of affected cities and towns 3.3 Ongoing: Mapping the country > main frame: roads, place names and residential areas 3.4 Ongoing: > Importing UNICEF data 3.5 Done: Mapping Bangui and Zongo 3.6 Road > network 3.7 Populated Places 3.8 Quality control 3.9 Data Imports 4 > Central African Republic GIS data 5 Imagery & sources 6 Information 7 > Communication [modifier] Map of Central African Republic © OpenStreetMap > contributors [modifier] HOT in Central African Republic From October > 2012, HOT has conducted a mapping project in Central African Republic, > as part of the EUROSHA project together with France Volontaires. The > initial focus is on baseline mapping of Bangui and the regions in which > the needs are most crucial. All these activities are meant to support > the growth of a local OSM group in Central African Republic and the > growth of the OSM project. In December 2012, considering a rebellion > took a great number of cities in the country, the EUROSHA Project has > been canceled in the country and HOT activated the OSM communities in > order to map specific areas of interest for the humanitarian community > (see Current activities) with specific Tasking Manager tasks (see > below). The residential areas of these towns have been 80-100% mapped, > except for Bambari (20%), only covered by Orbview3 imagery. On March 24, > 2013, after months of relative statu quo along with violence in some > towns, the Seleka rebels took over Bangui, ending the hope to see the > situation to go back to normal. A HOT Activation has been started to map > Areas of Interest and start importing the humanitarian data provided by > UNICEF (see below the Data Imports section). [modifier] RCA crisis - HOT > Activation - mapping goals [modifier] Highlights In November 2013, the > UN warned the country was at risk of spiraling into genocide and France > described the country as "..on the verge of genocide." The increasing > violence was largely from reprisal attacks on civilians from Seleka's > mainly Muslim fighters and Christian militias called "anti-balaka", > meaning 'anti-machete' or 'anti-sword'. Christians make up half the > population and Muslims 15 percent, according to the CIA World Factbook. > As many Christians have sedentary lifestyles and many Muslims are > nomadic, claims to the land were yet another dimension of the confl
Re: [HOT] CAR Activation; experienced mappers to finish the import of UNICEF data?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Séverin: I will be glad to collaborate in this import. Its wiki is very clear, but I have a small question: In the UNICEF import wiki it says, in the "Roads" subsection ( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_CAR_UNICEF_workflow#Roads ), that if a road doesn't exist, we can use the workflow for the WRI data import. In the "Road network" section of the WRI import wiki it says the job will be coordinated through the job http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/219 , but once you go there, there is a note that says: THIS JOB IS UNDERTAKEN BY A SPECIFIC TEAM, PLEASE DO NO PROCESS IT. What to do then? I can start working with the UNICEF import, but will ignore that road WRI import for the time being, to save time. Cheers, Rafael Ávila. On 21/12/13 23:52, Severin MENARD wrote: > Hi, > > As part of the CAR wikiproject and the HOT Activation < > WikiProject Central African Republic Aide Available languages • > English • français show Other languages — Help us translating this > wiki Central African Republic, Africa Latitude: (6.0, Longitude: > 21.0 Browse Central African Republic map Edit map Users in Central > African Republic GPS traces Wallpaper: 1024x768, 1280x800 Check Map > Features via Query-to-map Check streets with no-names Geohack for > OSM with more maps External links: OSM Inspector OpenStreetBrowser > Notes OpenStreetBugs GIS Data Extracts via WeoGeo MapDust Keep > Right! Coastline checker Public transport Wikipedia: en,fr Google > (& Image search) Webshots Geolocation OpenStreetMap Contributors > Map housenumbervalidator Use this template for your city • What do > the links do? Central African Republic is a Country in Africa at > latitude 6° 0′ 0″ North, longitude 21° 0′ 0″ East. Sommaire > [masquer] 1 Map of Central African Republic 2 HOT in Central > African Republic 3 RCA crisis - HOT Activation - mapping goals 3.1 > Highlights 3.2 Ongoing: Mapping of affected cities and towns 3.3 > Ongoing: Mapping the country main frame: roads, place names and > residential areas 3.4 Ongoing: Importing UNICEF data 3.5 Done: > Mapping Bangui and Zongo 3.6 Road network 3.7 Populated Places 3.8 > Quality control 3.9 Data Imports 4 Central African Republic GIS > data 5 Imagery & sources 6 Information 7 Communication [modifier] > Map of Central African Republic © OpenStreetMap contributors > [modifier] HOT in Central African Republic From October 2012, HOT > has conducted a mapping project in Central African Republic, as > part of the EUROSHA project together with France Volontaires. The > initial focus is on baseline mapping of Bangui and the regions in > which the needs are most crucial. All these activities are meant to > support the growth of a local OSM group in Central African Republic > and the growth of the OSM project. In December 2012, considering a > rebellion took a great number of cities in the country, the EUROSHA > Project has been canceled in the country and HOT activated the OSM > communities in order to map specific areas of interest for the > humanitarian community (see Current activities) with specific > Tasking Manager tasks (see below). The residential areas of these > towns have been 80-100% mapped, except for Bambari (20%), only > covered by Orbview3 imagery. On March 24, 2013, after months of > relative statu quo along with violence in some towns, the Seleka > rebels took over Bangui, ending the hope to see the situation to go > back to normal. A HOT Activation has been started to map Areas of > Interest and start importing the humanitarian data provided by > UNICEF (see below the Data Imports section). [modifier] RCA crisis > - HOT Activation - mapping goals [modifier] Highlights In November > 2013, the UN warned the country was at risk of spiraling into > genocide and France described the country as "..on the verge of > genocide." The increasing violence was largely from reprisal > attacks on civilians from Seleka's mainly Muslim fighters and > Christian militias called "anti-balaka", meaning 'anti-machete' or > 'anti-sword'. Christians make up half the population and Muslims 15 > percent, according to the CIA World Factbook. As many Christians > have sedentary lifestyles and many Muslims are nomadic, claims to > the land were yet another dimension of the conflict (source: > Wikipedia) Useful links to get more info about the situation in the > country: The Wikipedia page Central African Republic conflict > (2012–13) relates the events since the rebellion rose up. The > ReliefWeb page for CAR gathers all the maps and reports made by the > humanitarian organizations. The last UNICEF situation report, dated > December 5-7, 2013. The Human Rights Journalists Network for CAR > website (in French) provides a lot of news from the field The > Diaspora Multimedia & Audiovisuel is a communication agency in CAR > that publishes a lot of pictures in its Facebook page The > Humanitarian and Development Partnership Team (HDPT) unites all > organizat
