Re: [HOT] Ebola Outbreak Guinea - West Africa, Mapping to support CartONG - MSF-CH - Red Cross

[Pierre Béland]

Hi Alex,

I will come back to you with AOI's for Imagery.


Thanks 


Pierre 




 De : Alex Barth 
À : Pierre Béland  
Cc : HOT Discussion list  
Envoyé le : Samedi 29 mars 2014 15h35
Objet : Re: [HOT] Ebola Outbreak Guinea - West Africa, Mapping to support 
CartONG - MSF-CH - Red Cross
 




On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Pierre Béland  wrote:

In the rural areas where no Bing Imagery is available, we use the Landsat 
Imagery prepared by Jean-Guilhem to identify the landuse areas.
Pierre - can you share specific areas where imagery is needed?

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Re: [HOT] Ebola Outbreak Guinea - West Africa, Mapping to support CartONG - MSF-CH - Red Cross

[Alex Barth]

On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Pierre Béland  wrote:

> In the rural areas where no Bing Imagery is available, we use the Landsat
> Imagery prepared by Jean-Guilhem to identify the landuse areas.


Pierre - can you share specific areas where imagery is needed?

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Re: [HOT] Need 5 to 10 volunteers with josm and mumble.

[nicolas chavent]

Thanks Andrew for expanding this work around population densities,
translating to French to help you reaching out to more contributors

Andrew poursuit un travail d'établissement de d'estimations/densités de
population sur 500 sites.
Sa méthodologie s'appuie sur une cartographie distante du bâti (dur et
autres types de matériau) ; la complétude du bâti sur les Aires d'intérêt
est requise pour limiter au maximum les biais de calcul des
estimations/densités de population.
Andrew travaillera aujourd'hui sur ce thème avec coordination sur Mumble et
irc + liste hot + emails.

Ces estimations de population sont un premier au-delà de la donnée OSM et
un bien humanitaire commun aussi précieux pour la réponse à l'épidémie
Ebola en Guinée que nos cartes.

D'avance merci à celles et ceux qui pourront se joindre à Andrew

++
Nico

On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Andrew Buck wrote:

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> Hello everyone,
>
> Pierre mentioned I am doing a study about population densities in the
> villages in this area.  I need help tracing buildings and huts in
> select villages around the area.
>
> I would like to get a small "virtual mapping party" going using mumble
> to share tips and whatnot as people help trace these villages.  I will
> be online all day today on Saturday and can get the group started but
> I need a few more people to help.  I want to check about 500 villages
> and make sure all the buildings are mapped in them.  Currently most
> are complete, but lots of them need a few more buildings traced.  It
> only take 5 or 10 minutes to do a typical village, but with 500 to go
> over it is too many for me.  Join up on mumble and I will give out
> villages to trace buildings for.  I have all 500 loaded on my system
> so I can check them off as people do them.
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[HOT] Need 5 to 10 volunteers with josm and mumble.

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Hash: SHA1

Hello everyone,

Pierre mentioned I am doing a study about population densities in the
villages in this area.  I need help tracing buildings and huts in
select villages around the area.

I would like to get a small "virtual mapping party" going using mumble
to share tips and whatnot as people help trace these villages.  I will
be online all day today on Saturday and can get the group started but
I need a few more people to help.  I want to check about 500 villages
and make sure all the buildings are mapped in them.  Currently most
are complete, but lots of them need a few more buildings traced.  It
only take 5 or 10 minutes to do a typical village, but with 500 to go
over it is too many for me.  Join up on mumble and I will give out
villages to trace buildings for.  I have all 500 loaded on my system
so I can check them off as people do them.

- -AndrewBuck
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Re: [HOT] Contour lines overlay for remote mapping

[Severin Menard]

Yes, the transparency is very useful, thanks again.


On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 6:44 PM, yvecai  wrote:

>  Sure, OpenCycleMap is good for relief too, and with different data (only
> ASTER), so it's also good to compare.
> (My)  OpenSnowMap layer is transparent and thus can stay on top of aerial
> imagery when mapping, I just found this handy and wanted to share.
>
> Yves
>
>
>
> On 03/29/2014 12:47 PM, Severin Menard wrote:
>
> Hi Yves,
>
>  Thanks for this useful resource! I used to use OpenCycleMap to get
> contourlines. Your (?) rendering is less detailed but IMHO provides a
> better overview of the relief at first sight. I would use it first and then
> OpenCycleMap if I need to enter into more details.
>
>  Sincerely,
>
>  Severin
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 9:04 PM, yvecai  wrote:
>
>> I figured out yesterday mapping Macenta that I had trouble understanding
>> the way the area was build. It was my first mapping for HOT, and also my
>> first mapping outside Europe.
>>
>> Mapper could be interested to add this overlay on JOSM over the aerial to
>> benefit from contour-lines :
>> tms:http://www.opensnowmap.org/opensnowmap-overlay/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png
>> (source CGIAR-CSI SRTM V4.1 + ASTER beyond 60°N)
>>
>> Ski pistes shouldn't disturb the mapper in the concerned area.
>>
>> Yves - opensnowmap.org
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[HOT] Ebola Outbreak Guinea - West Africa, Mapping to support CartONG - MSF-CH - Red Cross

[Pierre Béland]

As the Ebola Outbreak is expanding in the neighboring countries, humanitarians 
need various geographic information. We started this activation to respond to 
CartONG - MSF-CH needs. And now the US Red Cross is asking to add more cities 
to respond to needs of teams deploying in other areas.

The OSM contributors response to map in detail the various towns was fantastic 
so far. Note that new Task Manager Jobs are still added fot this.

In the rural areas where no Bing Imagery is available, we use the Landsat 
Imagery prepared by Jean-Guilhem to identify the landuse areas. We are asking 
the contributors to circle the residential areas and create a landuse area 
polygon.  Study made by Andrew Buch shows that we can use information about 
surface of a village to estimate is population.
 This information can be very useful for the humanitarian organizations working 
on these territories.

It would be important also to take care of the highway network. This again can 
be done using the Landsat imagery. We are asking the more experienced mappers 
to go through the territory and trace the road network.

Cumulatives statistics from March 25 up  March 28, midnight (3 days) show a 
significant effort from the OSM community : 182OSM contributors, 520,000 
objects, 62,600 buildings

Thanks again  all the contributors.


 
Pierre 

Andrew notes about Landsat Imagery 

tms[19]:http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/guinee_c10_l8_pxs432/{zoom}/{x}/{y}

tms[19]:http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/guinee_c10_l8_pxs753/{zoom}/{x}/{y}

The best way I have found to use these is to load them both into
  JOSM
with the 753 layer listed above the 432 layer.  Then, turn down
  the
opactiy (transparency) on the 753 layer to about 50 to 60 percent
  and
you should see the villages look quite apparent.  To start with
  just
try this in an area where a lot of villages are already mapped to
  get
a sense for how to set up the imagery layers and what to look for.
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Re: [HOT] Contour lines overlay for remote mapping

[yvecai]

Sure, OpenCycleMap is good for relief too, and with different data (only 
ASTER), so it's also good to compare.
(My)  OpenSnowMap layer is transparent and thus can stay on top of 
aerial imagery when mapping, I just found this handy and wanted to share.


Yves


On 03/29/2014 12:47 PM, Severin Menard wrote:

Hi Yves,

Thanks for this useful resource! I used to use OpenCycleMap to get 
contourlines. Your (?) rendering is less detailed but IMHO provides a 
better overview of the relief at first sight. I would use it first and 
then OpenCycleMap if I need to enter into more details.


Sincerely,

Severin


On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 9:04 PM, yvecai > wrote:


I figured out yesterday mapping Macenta that I had trouble
understanding the way the area was build. It was my first mapping
for HOT, and also my first mapping outside Europe.

Mapper could be interested to add this overlay on JOSM over the
aerial to benefit from contour-lines :
tms:http://www.opensnowmap.org/opensnowmap-overlay/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png


(source CGIAR-CSI SRTM V4.1 + ASTER beyond 60°N)

Ski pistes shouldn't disturb the mapper in the concerned area.

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Re: [HOT] Tharparkar Drought in Sindh Province, Pakistan - Mapping to support Aid Deliveries

[Severin Menard]

Hi Mark,

Thanks for this very comprehensive email and wikipage.
It is likely this HMP will last longer than higher priority Crisis, be
patient and keep going!

Sincerely,

Severin


On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:50 PM, Mark Cupitt  wrote:

> Dear All
>
> In support of the Drought Relief Efforts in The Tharparker Desert, the HOT
> Community has commenced a Humanitarian Mapping Project (HMP) to map
> population areas, access roads and airfields as well as water sources and
> other critical information.
>
> The Tharparker region in Pakistan is the world's 18th largest desert and
> has been in a state of drought since late 2013. Recently more than 100
> people have died as a result of the effects of the drought.
>
> The Pakistan Government has mobilized to assist this stricken area and
> this HMP will be useful to support relief efforts by agencies attempting to
> reach all the people in need.
>
> Full background information on the drought and mapping needs are on the
> HMP 
> Wiki
>  Page
> and a Tasking Manager  Job has been
> created for the area
>
> This is a* Medium Priority HMP*, secondary to the Guinea Ebola 
> Outbreak
>  activation.
>
> Please help map this desert area when you have some spare time and when
> the Guinea Ebola Outbreak is completed.
>
> Regards
>
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Re: [HOT] Contour lines overlay for remote mapping

[Severin Menard]

Hi Yves,

Thanks for this useful resource! I used to use OpenCycleMap to get
contourlines. Your (?) rendering is less detailed but IMHO provides a
better overview of the relief at first sight. I would use it first and then
OpenCycleMap if I need to enter into more details.

Sincerely,

Severin


On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 9:04 PM, yvecai  wrote:

> I figured out yesterday mapping Macenta that I had trouble understanding
> the way the area was build. It was my first mapping for HOT, and also my
> first mapping outside Europe.
>
> Mapper could be interested to add this overlay on JOSM over the aerial to
> benefit from contour-lines :
> tms:http://www.opensnowmap.org/opensnowmap-overlay/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png
> (source CGIAR-CSI SRTM V4.1 + ASTER beyond 60°N)
>
> Ski pistes shouldn't disturb the mapper in the concerned area.
>
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Re: [HOT] Guinea Ebola Outbreak, Mapping the broader area

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Thanks Jean-Guilhem for making possible the extension of OSM-usable Landsat
8 imagery to the whole Guinea and Sierra Leone for this crisis response at
the same two URLs :

tms[19]:http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/guinee_c10_l8_pxs432/
{zoom}/{
x}/{y}

tms[19]:http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/guinee_c10_l8_pxs753/
{zoom}/{x}/{y}



Merci à Jean-Guilhem pour avoir rendu possible la mise à disposition des
images Landsat 8  sur une zone maintenant étendue à toute la Guinée Conakry
et le Sierra Léone dans le cadre de cette réponse de crise.

tms[19]:http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/guinee_c10_l8_pxs432/
{zoom}/{
x}/{y}

tms[19]:http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/guinee_c10_l8_pxs753/
{zoom}/{x}/{y}


++
Nico




On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 12:56 AM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton wrote:

>  Dear All,
>
> The Landsat-8 mosaics have been extended to 22 images, and now cover all
> of Guinea and of Sierra Leone (in addition to the same parts of Liberia as
> before, and border areas of other neighboring countries).
>
> The URL are unchanged. You may need to refresh your cache to view the new
> version.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Jean-Guilhem
>
>
> Le 28/03/2014 15:14, Andrew Buck a écrit :
>
> Hello again everyone,
>
> The task manager jobs for all of the main cities are coming along very
> nicely.  I have been amazed at how quickly the community responded to
> these jobs.
>
> In addition to the jobs in the cities, there is also some mapping that
> needs to be done over a wider area for context.  In order to help
> understand, model, and predict the spread of the disease it is useful
> to have population data for all of the villages and also road networks
> to help understand where infected people who travel might have
> traveled through.  We can help with both of these issues using the
> combination of what high resolution imagery we have (Bing, Pleiades,
> Orbview, etc), as well as some very recent LandSat 8 imagery over the
> entire affected area in 2 different color combinations.  These Landsat
> layers were put online by JGC and show natural color in the "432"
> image and a traditional "false color" image in the 753 layer listed
> below.  Both of these image layers were taken at the exact same time,
> however the 753 layer shows the area in 3 different infra-red colors.
>  By using these two layers together it is possible to tell apart
> objects that are the same color (like a village with brown roofs, vs a
> brown field).  In these images villages will appear brown in the 432
> layer and bright pink in the 753 layer.
>
> tms[19]:http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/guinee_c10_l8_pxs432/
> {zoom}/{x}/{y}
>
> tms[19]:http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/guinee_c10_l8_pxs753/
> {zoom}/{x}/{y}
>
> The best way I have found to use these is to load them both into JOSM
> with the 753 layer listed above the 432 layer.  Then, turn down the
> opactiy (transparency) on the 753 layer to about 50 to 60 percent and
> you should see the villages look quite apparent.  To start with just
> try this in an area where a lot of villages are already mapped to get
> a sense for how to set up the imagery layers and what to look for.
> Basically, the villages will be a bright pinkish hue with a kind of
> "shimmering" look from the 432 layer underneath.
>
> Hopefully we can get maybe 5 to 10 people working on this over the
> whole area we have Landsat for.  I don't think it is worth creating
> such a huge job on the task manager for this since it is such a broad
> area.  Just try to upload (and update) once every 1/2 hour or so.
> Also, it would be a good idea to install the Geochat plugin for josm
> and login to it as well as right clicking on the Geochat text box and
> clicking 'show users on map'.  This will let you see other Geochat
> users in the same area.  If all the people who work on this task use
> that setup the risk of conflicts is basically 0.  And finally, I am on
> mumble if you have any questions about the setup of what to do.  It
> would be cool to have a room of people working on this together so you
> can all share tips on there.
>
> Anyway, thanks for all the help so far and let's keep going on this
> new stuff as well.  If you plan to work on this, please just post a
> short message to the list here when you start so I can get a sense of
> how many people end up doing this.  It is a bit tricky to set up, but
> is a really fun thing to work on once you have it all set up.
>
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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager is Down

[Mark Cupitt]

Hi Drazen, I'm getting a "server error" creating it manully.
Cheers
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On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Dražen Odobašić wrote:

> On 29.03.2014 08:02, Mark Cupitt wrote:
> > Zoom Level 11, should only be about 150 or so tiles I would think. Let me
> > know if I got that wrong
> > Cheers
>
>
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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager is Down

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On 29.03.2014 08:02, Mark Cupitt wrote:
> Zoom Level 11, should only be about 150 or so tiles I would think. Let me
> know if I got that wrong
> Cheers



And create an issue on the
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager/issue for the specific use case :)

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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager is Down

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Thanks Drazen, will do it manually. Thanks for looking into it. Cheers Mark


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On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Dražen Odobašić wrote:

> On 29.03.2014 08:02, Mark Cupitt wrote:
> > Zoom Level 11, should only be about 150 or so tiles I would think. Let me
> > know if I got that wrong
> > Cheers
> >
>
>
> Ok, found out what is the problem... relation is just too complex... so it
> can't
> be quickly processed by the system... eventually the system will just give
> up..
>
> I should really look into how to limit 'max processing time per request'
> and
> kill the request, not sure what is happening in the source code.
>
> You should manually draw the outlines... if you can
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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager is Down

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On 29.03.2014 08:02, Mark Cupitt wrote:
> Zoom Level 11, should only be about 150 or so tiles I would think. Let me
> know if I got that wrong
> Cheers
> 


Ok, found out what is the problem... relation is just too complex... so it can't
be quickly processed by the system... eventually the system will just give up..

I should really look into how to limit 'max processing time per request' and
kill the request, not sure what is happening in the source code.

You should manually draw the outlines... if you can

Dražen


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Zoom Level 11, should only be about 150 or so tiles I would think. Let me
know if I got that wrong
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On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Dražen Odobašić wrote:

> Yeah ok... you can do that... BUT only if you keep tile numbers below
> 1000, what
> was the desired zoom level for that task ?
>
>
> On 29.03.2014 07:55, Mark Cupitt wrote:
> > Hi Drazen, if you want to try it, the relation Id was 3601608
> > Cheers
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Mark Cupitt
> >
> > "If we change the world, let it bear the mark of our intelligence"
> >
>
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[Dražen Odobašić]

Yeah ok... you can do that... BUT only if you keep tile numbers below 1000, what
was the desired zoom level for that task ?


On 29.03.2014 07:55, Mark Cupitt wrote:
> Hi Drazen, if you want to try it, the relation Id was 3601608
> Cheers
> Mark
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Mark Cupitt
> 
> "If we change the world, let it bear the mark of our intelligence"
> 


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