Re: [HOT] [Ebola] Import of 14, 020 United Nations Mission in Liberia place nodes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Blake: I am answering some emails after long because I couldn't cope with everything last two/three weeks. There are 324 nodes out of the original 14,020 nodes with a / in their name or is_in:clan tags. Maybe, based on our experience so far, we could take a decision on whether to leave the / unchanged (with a space before and after the /, or move the second name to an alt_name_X tag systematically or when it's clear using common sense. Cheers, Rafael. On 27/09/14 13:29, Blake Girardot wrote: I am pretty sure that names with / in them are really a list of different names or alt_names as well call them. I was thinking maybe after the initial placement is over we might consider going through and moving the / names into the alt_name_ fields. Blake On 9/27/2014 3:07 AM, Ralf Stephan wrote: Another improvement to the workflow document I would like to propose, is that the doc talks about treatment of names containing / (which should have spaces around the character). Can we assume the same for , #, and parentheses? Should any of them be treated differently, e.g. And for ? What would be the cartographic writing conventions in these cases? Do we have links to any conventions? Regards, ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot - -- Twitter: http://twitter.com/ravilacoya - Por favor, non me envíe documentos con extensións .doc, .docx, .xls, .xlsx, .ppt, .pptx, aínda podendoo facer, non os abro. Atendendo á lexislación vixente, empregue formatos estándares e abertos. http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument#Tipos_de_ficheros -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJUPPxiAAoJEB3niTly2pPQiFsP/ia8gmCdSBriAM2SlCS4pOXV AK3vysbbY/z9ROLGu/zT7NtkVf/4kd7IqDFprpRM0TFM16+4Bv3gRnUj6nzosms1 62BpDip99ZTQR9l9CZFgzTdPjsWv1JHHI2DKl3wBBX6p2gMABtXKxxikgge1wAWv gKef9awn8/objuf5zee8VVk3aUYgKILUDUHt80V4xPLHffC3bP2IREmxd4M5Ueag FRO+ESjcQbe707zQe8VBVoJ9i0UbOwT4a4Mdv05tfQ9jIINISSyxg8K/n7iLiJ2k JTpGUnqYqUMyTAfk1YUxmsu0GVGcY6CUz86A6dePTcBZXPSSITD6fBWDP6tE/gDN yY0mES0CxlLT4uOF8cvGW1d6Avp8dQz+kMJ4WWEcdLm9HJLAYM2FSIGwbUcTbjte kFe5huDxWA1AfWMmfnmJ4IhsJoRkvIJA2eHdi7ZatPm7CFzQFj5dhbAJH+mN8E5J ou7JyjerGuA4Z30tEycUj/7KQ1WEJVF7sjcJDqf/jOCWOUjNTX35too0yQM25VV2 ne5wHPkj6e/leWcLIuoNxlZtF15zvhVl61IxFtVJ3eGO670dERUtLleBj9BccyM8 AXoObJC0m6vnwkpLVO9dQ2A60KwWDuWzIqnpx/uhIe/PcRIthSqBX7ICTonWAhij eYpHhGb/WWtNv91sDPcQ =Vhwj -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] [Ebola] Import of 14, 020 United Nations Mission in Liberia place nodes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Blake: I had a look to this example. I also think that in these cases we should keep both nodes, and if unsure just leave them in their position, maybe adding a fixme tag. Both names are completely different, so there must be a reason they are there. Cheers, Rafael. On 27/09/14 14:54, Blake Girardot wrote: Hi, One other comment I would make on the process now that I have done a several hundred nodes is that what looks like two names on one settlement could very well be two separate names for two different locations in the same village. For example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/6.423257/-10.248687 Amara Village was placed on the buildings to the south and Monden closer to the general collection of buildings to the north. Both are in the same clan name. I am finding it very common for the UNMIL data to name individual farms or houses with what sounds like a name and Village on the end, e.g., Amara Village In the above example, I strongly suspect the data was naming that farm house in the south specifically and the general settlement name in the N. Just something to think about if you are thinking of combining nodes and using alt_name_* I also do not think it would be a big deal if they got combined, but I hate to lose such nice specific location data. The trade off of having two nodes on there instead of 1 node with alt_name_* seems to cause no harm whatsoever as opposed to location data lost potentially forever to OSM. Blake On 9/21/2014 1:42 AM, Rafael Avila Coya wrote: Hi all: The Tasking Manager job to import [1] these set of places has being discussed in the imports list, issues have been addressed and the wikis have been written, with a detailed workflow [2] to secure a consistent import process. This job will greatly improve the map for Liberia, and therefore will be of great help for organizations working to control Ebola outbreak in West Africa. As this job is quite delicate, it has been decided to make it private. I've added to the job the same users that were contributing to the GNS merging job [3] + myself. If anyone else is interested in participating in this import, please reply to this list to have your name added. For all those that will contribute, please read carefully the workflow wiki [2] and make sure you understand all the steps. Cheers, and thank you very much in advance for contributing, Rafael. [1] http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/652 [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_Liberia_UNMIL_Places_Workflow [3] http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/617 ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot - -- Twitter: http://twitter.com/ravilacoya - Por favor, non me envíe documentos con extensións .doc, .docx, .xls, .xlsx, .ppt, .pptx, aínda podendoo facer, non os abro. Atendendo á lexislación vixente, empregue formatos estándares e abertos. http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument#Tipos_de_ficheros -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJUPQFnAAoJEB3niTly2pPQ4QEP/1y3/Rpcj0xPJx+sF1Qqi06W VDLttMkZHK+TxVFCWV2pTyKJgbDqx2+izF9jdNlmJavjX3ej/pt4l0bG9w5VoMZO kWkJaKuoK+o5wcbVgWU3JDdSrAygbrvRJJONkVaaXdZ8GKKJRi+EKG5z+AWDMw1d /V4KLYbOyoiiDZHnu99rXERFW8evaDPrIj/2fO7UuflqIy+4EUaI21VVUX/DZF9A +1WMQKpF7BNUY2eZLKzpqAOSe8CirP8t0sLUJ3eveHSderSrbv2fP3cktVPtfeba eRSDp7ctbM1Q0H8J1ETLuUFQbJcuVBBfngQKoKWuPBM5mxh7avAzYmuuZ8B1iVEk jtxw0WMvIEj4F28RAkdwbqqHtKlH/XR7HxLlTjqSIibqN1YpqfVfMRWY486qTLg5 RKTHOtdKWMcXyjm5nbaqA3GZGtgjsuOChBoCCvTXjpizs4FkMPOOHRTPfZBAth9W L7T4mkutbHa7jC9phII1Gkrvle2xpdlCThBBx0EQq70fcRzviaGet5pRwazDZDVt VqBvBaGNWD62pIP91eaSta0b9uzscN0yItMUUtWfhQcqZgjkoGlBMMsJs47iHcg/ SLWxGcQgx4Uxvo6acsBbEnSkSnqgeGRzj54XGYghgd0rxCayLVtGziPxf2xX7YpA taQDKqhJk6t1PVligVaN =4+L7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] [Ebola] Import of 14, 020 United Nations Mission in Liberia place nodes
+1 for alt_name_x BTW there are truncated place and clan names too. Places mostly where long names with 'Village' were truncated to 'Vi' or 'Villa' or such (maybe a common max length?). On 14 Oct 2014 12:37, Rafael Avila Coya ravilac...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Blake: I am answering some emails after long because I couldn't cope with everything last two/three weeks. There are 324 nodes out of the original 14,020 nodes with a / in their name or is_in:clan tags. Maybe, based on our experience so far, we could take a decision on whether to leave the / unchanged (with a space before and after the /, or move the second name to an alt_name_X tag systematically or when it's clear using common sense. Cheers, Rafael. On 27/09/14 13:29, Blake Girardot wrote: I am pretty sure that names with / in them are really a list of different names or alt_names as well call them. I was thinking maybe after the initial placement is over we might consider going through and moving the / names into the alt_name_ fields. Blake On 9/27/2014 3:07 AM, Ralf Stephan wrote: Another improvement to the workflow document I would like to propose, is that the doc talks about treatment of names containing / (which should have spaces around the character). Can we assume the same for , #, and parentheses? Should any of them be treated differently, e.g. And for ? What would be the cartographic writing conventions in these cases? Do we have links to any conventions? Regards, ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot - -- Twitter: http://twitter.com/ravilacoya - Por favor, non me envíe documentos con extensións .doc, .docx, .xls, .xlsx, .ppt, .pptx, aínda podendoo facer, non os abro. Atendendo á lexislación vixente, empregue formatos estándares e abertos. http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument#Tipos_de_ficheros -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJUPPxiAAoJEB3niTly2pPQiFsP/ia8gmCdSBriAM2SlCS4pOXV AK3vysbbY/z9ROLGu/zT7NtkVf/4kd7IqDFprpRM0TFM16+4Bv3gRnUj6nzosms1 62BpDip99ZTQR9l9CZFgzTdPjsWv1JHHI2DKl3wBBX6p2gMABtXKxxikgge1wAWv gKef9awn8/objuf5zee8VVk3aUYgKILUDUHt80V4xPLHffC3bP2IREmxd4M5Ueag FRO+ESjcQbe707zQe8VBVoJ9i0UbOwT4a4Mdv05tfQ9jIINISSyxg8K/n7iLiJ2k JTpGUnqYqUMyTAfk1YUxmsu0GVGcY6CUz86A6dePTcBZXPSSITD6fBWDP6tE/gDN yY0mES0CxlLT4uOF8cvGW1d6Avp8dQz+kMJ4WWEcdLm9HJLAYM2FSIGwbUcTbjte kFe5huDxWA1AfWMmfnmJ4IhsJoRkvIJA2eHdi7ZatPm7CFzQFj5dhbAJH+mN8E5J ou7JyjerGuA4Z30tEycUj/7KQ1WEJVF7sjcJDqf/jOCWOUjNTX35too0yQM25VV2 ne5wHPkj6e/leWcLIuoNxlZtF15zvhVl61IxFtVJ3eGO670dERUtLleBj9BccyM8 AXoObJC0m6vnwkpLVO9dQ2A60KwWDuWzIqnpx/uhIe/PcRIthSqBX7ICTonWAhij eYpHhGb/WWtNv91sDPcQ =Vhwj -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] [Ebola] Import of 14, 020 United Nations Mission in Liberia place nodes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ralf: I comment inline some points I didn't answer, and more on the A, B, C... point. On 10/10/14 11:11, Ralf Stephan wrote: A few more observations, probably not new to fellow importers, * often when it seems UNMIL objects are placed in the mid of the jungle, there is an isolated dwelling somewhere If sure, I would move it to that isolated_dwelling too. * often when I encounter very different GNS vs. UNMIL place names in a hamlet area it's worthwhile to look far outside (1km) for a UNMIL node that matches the GNS node better. Voila, misplaced GNS node found. * for the same reason I always do a final scan of the square, looking for offroad GNS nodes that might match a lone UNMIL node. Usually I find one or two. Good. And that's why I added to the workflow wiki 2km on all directions when downloading the OSM data: Download from OSM an area around each of those nodes. 2 Km radious would be more than enough. * this is more controversial. We are told to keep A, B, C or #1, #2 in place names. I don't question that in general. However when I find big villages that have a GNS name (say Bopolu) in the center, and five UNMIL names (say Bopolu A to E) very near to that, then I think it improbable that Bopolu has five suburbs named so, because else the UNMIL objects would be distributed much more evenly over the area. I have condensed it all into one object (with 5 UNMIL ids so the are not lost) in such cases. I have had less then five such cases so far, no worry. But it makes me speculate that most names with additional A, B, C are automatically generated, because I find that the larger the hamlet/village is the more such objects are found. Although I answered to this before, I would add that having one single name in several nodes, with 1, 2, 3... or A, B, C... or I, II, III... added to the end to differentiate them is quite common in many countries in Africa. You can find many of them in Central African Republic or Nigeria, as just two examples. I again would leave all those nodes separated as they are, and not condense them in one. I can't assure you that they are automatically produced, but it could very likely not be the case. Cheers, Rafael. Regards, On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Rafael Avila Coya ravilac...@gmail.com mailto:ravilac...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all: The Tasking Manager job to import [1] these set of places has being discussed in the imports list, issues have been addressed and the wikis have been written, with a detailed workflow [2] to secure a consistent import process. This job will greatly improve the map for Liberia, and therefore will be of great help for organizations working to control Ebola outbreak in West Africa. As this job is quite delicate, it has been decided to make it private. I've added to the job the same users that were contributing to the GNS merging job [3] + myself. If anyone else is interested in participating in this import, please reply to this list to have your name added. For all those that will contribute, please read carefully the workflow wiki [2] and make sure you understand all the steps. Cheers, and thank you very much in advance for contributing, Rafael. [1] http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/652 [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_Liberia_UNMIL_Places_Workflow [3] http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/617 ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org mailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot - -- Twitter: http://twitter.com/ravilacoya - Por favor, non me envíe documentos con extensións .doc, .docx, .xls, .xlsx, .ppt, .pptx, aínda podendoo facer, non os abro. Atendendo á lexislación vixente, empregue formatos estándares e abertos. http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument#Tipos_de_ficheros -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJUPRA6AAoJEB3niTly2pPQ2ykP/3f2DEFiPGVfd499AmZegEh/ omq2EcZ0s/kpgBOph1cVfstqrhKdE85QFY56c1gP2ubxIAC4U9xzKyhSLzOm9E5C 0oA9E5NJRCqHEVExWWFRWKNUCFpf/yMJzzdn8nmvtTHqExiDNdxwlmKE2cl4HSAq jk3JDBDTack2fX2MoNOYs8VOFeAT9b8hwC+q1lt2s7BhkiHY2ZyQ+Q+8MZV1FLTU zgF2pT9r/pdIWUeHr7sIkjMWXIYQeq1L4NPeXtAHuyeHW1D1u/9/ZEC0rHlXeqt7 4fww6zKS/bMJ/+TDg1U1yQwGOhxbDg8cqmNV8C7zQJTnSldiTLoZrH2UZsIdKAv6 1By4pMdWb8Z3BNR8pKY4NxsBiywSZBgB1EIoTPZtLqxUgD7YeVWq3jgCClpcKJ0U rX2UiDTtv7gQiUqtBCtIe9MTUxonqH/B7HUi0Hr3Et/C6BTRiPsh0ePMEeNNrgsb niWeRHbrsOaZnkYR4dWSpZR8etPHJKKOXA8zyIsSROYcdJCSub51JMNYW9M6+pfZ oyVunrjifTu5TSIIit/bTc2zHzyR3K6EObmE+Zy0poqFmydtRAzYW4Wz4TDtveVY HCPIFrbWR9BlB/ulOS3ibZ59WBBCdf3M0X7UBTnflaZh8U+DjhrpNePTPry9iRBB yHHschvxK/U5wXxIsjR7 =1tf6 -END PGP
Re: [HOT] [Ebola] Import of 14, 020 United Nations Mission in Liberia place nodes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Ralf: I've just replied a minute ago to this email in another previous email, but I paste here again my opinion on this issue: Although I answered to this before, I would add that having one single name in several nodes, with 1, 2, 3... or A, B, C... or I, II, III... added to the end to differentiate them is quite common in many countries in Africa. You can find many of them in Central African Republic or Nigeria, as just two examples. I again would leave all those nodes separated as they are, and not condense them in one. I can't assure you that they are automatically produced, but it could very likely not be the case. Cheers, Rafael. On 10/10/14 18:24, Ralf Stephan wrote: First, Bopolu was an example name, I don't remember which it was actually. On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Rafael Avila Coya ravilac...@gmail.com mailto:ravilac...@gmail.com wrote: About the nodes Bopolu A, B, C..., I wouldn't condense them into one, as doing so we are loosing information on different settlements, or parts of the same whole settlement. I was trying to make that clear, there is no information lost, one big village, all A-E names near the centre, no separation between suburbs visible. All UNMIL ids still available. There are many cases where A,B were in different parts of town but this was not so. I would better leave them as such, and maybe (that should be discussed) tag them as place=neighbourhood, leaving the GNS Bopolu one in more or less the centroid of all A, B, C... nodes, or creating one. This may sound like a compromise but how real is it? You really think people call their neighborhood Cityname B or C? The tag for that node would have to be discussed too. I would bet for place=villace... Now you ask for the Bopolu node. Wikipedia: As of the 2008 census, Bopolu has a population of 2908. Of this, 1547 were male and 1361 female.[1] OK, I had a limit of 2,000 for village in mind instead of 10,000, will correct this. Cheers, Rafael. On 10/10/14 11:11, Ralf Stephan wrote: A few more observations, probably not new to fellow importers, * often when it seems UNMIL objects are placed in the mid of the jungle, there is an isolated dwelling somewhere * often when I encounter very different GNS vs. UNMIL place names in a hamlet area it's worthwhile to look far outside (1km) for a UNMIL node that matches the GNS node better. Voila, misplaced GNS node found. * for the same reason I always do a final scan of the square, looking for offroad GNS nodes that might match a lone UNMIL node. Usually I find one or two. * this is more controversial. We are told to keep A, B, C or #1, #2 in place names. I don't question that in general. However when I find big villages that have a GNS name (say Bopolu) in the center, and five UNMIL names (say Bopolu A to E) very near to that, then I think it improbable that Bopolu has five suburbs named so, because else the UNMIL objects would be distributed much more evenly over the area. I have condensed it all into one object (with 5 UNMIL ids so the are not lost) in such cases. I have had less then five such cases so far, no worry. But it makes me speculate that most names with additional A, B, C are automatically generated, because I find that the larger the hamlet/village is the more such objects are found. Regards, On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Rafael Avila Coya ravilac...@gmail.com mailto:ravilac...@gmail.com mailto:ravilac...@gmail.com mailto:ravilac...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all: The Tasking Manager job to import [1] these set of places has being discussed in the imports list, issues have been addressed and the wikis have been written, with a detailed workflow [2] to secure a consistent import process. This job will greatly improve the map for Liberia, and therefore will be of great help for organizations working to control Ebola outbreak in West Africa. As this job is quite delicate, it has been decided to make it private. I've added to the job the same users that were contributing to the GNS merging job [3] + myself. If anyone else is interested in participating in this import, please reply to this list to have your name added. For all those that will contribute, please read carefully the workflow wiki [2] and make sure you understand all the steps. Cheers, and thank you very much in advance for contributing, Rafael. [1] http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/652 [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_Liberia_UNMIL_Places_Workflow [3] http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/617 ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org mailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org mailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org mailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list
Re: [HOT] Liberia Unmil Place names
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Most of the places remaining without high resolution imagery are not high priority areas for the disease outbreak so that is why we have not gotten better imagery. With regards to the place=unknown thing, this was discussed on the import list but I didn't really agree with it. In any case, the point is somewhat moot, as we had planned to make a TM job to go over the whole area and classify the place nodes to a more appropriate type after all of the imports were complete. This way they are all done in a consistent manner; not just the ones we imported, but also the ones that were already in the database from other sources. - -AndrewBuck On 10/13/2014 10:10 PM, Ralf Stephan wrote: In those areas without high-res Bing coverage much more problems exist than that. Can we not get better imagery there? Regards, On 14 Oct 2014 03:38, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote: I see nearly 500 place=unknown for Liberia. Since we are adding places ones by one, it should be possible to categorize the type of locality from imagery. This is harder with low res imagery, but in this case, if the footprint of the village is small, this should be classified place=hamlet. Somebody to revise this? regard Pierre ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJUPRz/AAoJEK7RwIfxHSXbDMcQAJI/liiT4gCH8MKakWfJbp/o V2txKEnEqsqg2xwIJ7Xmn2pUpprygsYARbsnDnNX9Y799bi1ghvhIKSiM86742EL bUe33RIDcnGiAcWq1irdld6X+wkxmc/NZUE0M8OMFEnbzgo4cOlN91b/aEZdmpwM I+VqGK2orWojD3h5QIT6gPQKGVEr7lbTip83R8KG62ucgCbq2Vf5hRX7eGrANSCL HEctyY1idKksoyiEUoYmuHd42kywj/VZ9UEAW/sqPd1jA68fJtCijeQsyBwAHBQv 0iSDu9TohaqfYAX9Ne4+HxgCfJvgEPfF3utK4ftUDQb2CI0iFFQ/NWHu2nTgOiP1 8yYoKPbHShbD7nZAdsC1kafjwfFK6PXJRVOGDJ+ijrz6iY/AztEKuNop6+OpjCRq N1pZZUduf5Z0S7y8EvZ8xC14Xs+uqa0aZBqGOOcRtuDYnRGkOwqN9fuLr0hU1ngF dE43L+46blC1t5LgN/eBAqnsbtR6WVgZ99Cyzi+ANQOVHaR+VWmGefaA5Nk5XQv8 cVdhPmYpEdYs7VvcSB6fYZcIhrAE14KYzVx1yNTl2modbtgyGDkCUhtDMjPzE+YG v4CkHe/FL5KhrOM9/EmPK85g3470W1txJp7eIU4iR+fb1WVsDBUCC9hsVgKvktp/ zI3JNq1y/W4cqvGZI2nu =OqFU -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] [Ebola] Import of 14, 020 United Nations Mission in Liberia place nodes
Hi Rafael, Although I answered to this before, I would add that having one single name in several nodes, with 1, 2, 3... or A, B, C... or I, II, III... added to the end to differentiate them is quite common in many countries in Africa. You can find many of them in Central African Republic or Nigeria, as just two examples. I again would leave all those nodes separated as they are, and not condense them in one. I can't assure you that they are automatically produced, but it could very likely not be the case. It's a pity that you do not differentiate in your answer cases where there is no corresponding settlement to be found, or where there are not likely to be sub-names, e.g., Name A and Name B in a compact hamlet. Of course I have always agreed with your opinion when it comes to separated settlements or distant neighbourhoods. Regards, ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] HOT Projects issues triaging - second iteration (let's try again)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, can we schedule Issue triaging sometime this week? We can try to do it on Thursday 16. October at 17:00 UTC ! [0] Dražen [0] http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=1440iso=20141016T17msg=HOT%20Projects%20issues%20triaging%20-%20iteration%202 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUPVcrAAoJENKPwRouT2y93e8IAIy3xYlN73etjpViieAQyTpP r+g1o9wgj+96a7Tsb5w3Dt0Ab90aCphvDgDDmNC4KaxHs8nz8LJW+8NN0Ih56GVq aKYuTQSRUbIGJMvJ8TFtjABnZ/mCxzCPRZpIcIaIg8VV081b+x7k9otacBbmYtg4 EUG24pG08WjrDhhD8Kr/E6QEMyTowuKyV/pfZToY0A6h1GwvGDbvU8Wkngv3Y5WY Qob29HoPDcD8W5lCFcGehC1vXHMMpVxaQznaJrmfTFRdTw7UjnCiOhQPZ02EBq86 cJ5ep5x98JEa/8Km7TMsBWVI8a9iSUzswPAulbED90rOkikzWOOUKmtaBNqxLC0= =HQXU -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] HOT Projects issues triaging - second iteration (let's try again)
Hi Drazen, That works for me. Best, -Kate On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Dražen Odobašić dodo...@geoinfo.geof.hr wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, can we schedule Issue triaging sometime this week? We can try to do it on Thursday 16. October at 17:00 UTC ! [0] Dražen [0] http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=1440iso=20141016T17msg=HOT%20Projects%20issues%20triaging%20-%20iteration%202 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUPVcrAAoJENKPwRouT2y93e8IAIy3xYlN73etjpViieAQyTpP r+g1o9wgj+96a7Tsb5w3Dt0Ab90aCphvDgDDmNC4KaxHs8nz8LJW+8NN0Ih56GVq aKYuTQSRUbIGJMvJ8TFtjABnZ/mCxzCPRZpIcIaIg8VV081b+x7k9otacBbmYtg4 EUG24pG08WjrDhhD8Kr/E6QEMyTowuKyV/pfZToY0A6h1GwvGDbvU8Wkngv3Y5WY Qob29HoPDcD8W5lCFcGehC1vXHMMpVxaQznaJrmfTFRdTw7UjnCiOhQPZ02EBq86 cJ5ep5x98JEa/8Km7TMsBWVI8a9iSUzswPAulbED90rOkikzWOOUKmtaBNqxLC0= =HQXU -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -- Kate Chapman Executive Director email: kate.chap...@hotosm.org U.S. mobile: +1 703 673 8834 Indonesian mobile: +62 82123068370 *Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team * *Using OpenStreetMap for Humanitarian Response Economic Development* web http://hot.openstreetmap.org | twitter http://twitter.com/hotosm | facebook http://facebook.com/hotosm | donate http://hot.openstreetmap.org/donate ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] Activation Working Group meeting: postponing to next week?
Hi, My apologies: solving some personal admin issues, I forgot today was the day for the AWG monthly meeting. Is it OK to do it next week on Tuesday, same hour as usual, to compensate? Sincerely, Severin ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] [Ebola] Import of 14, 020 United Nations Mission in Liberia place nodes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Ralf: I see now that I have misunderstood from the beginning what you wanted to explain, so I beg your pardon for making you loose your time. I've been thinking all this time that what you proposed to do was to unify in one node several nodes with a names like Bupolu A, Bupolu B, that were over different settlements, and not in different areas of one large village or town. What you propose to do makes, therefore, a lot of sense. In any case, I wonder why we have several nodes only different by a letter or number at the end of their names, but with different unmil:id's too. There must be a reason for that, and I guess only people who gathered that data can answer that question. Sorry again, Rafael. On 14/10/14 15:51, Ralf Stephan wrote: Hi Rafael, Although I answered to this before, I would add that having one single name in several nodes, with 1, 2, 3... or A, B, C... or I, II, III... added to the end to differentiate them is quite common in many countries in Africa. You can find many of them in Central African Republic or Nigeria, as just two examples. I again would leave all those nodes separated as they are, and not condense them in one. I can't assure you that they are automatically produced, but it could very likely not be the case. It's a pity that you do not differentiate in your answer cases where there is no corresponding settlement to be found, or where there are not likely to be sub-names, e.g., Name A and Name B in a compact hamlet. Of course I have always agreed with your opinion when it comes to separated settlements or distant neighbourhoods. Regards, - -- Twitter: http://twitter.com/ravilacoya - Por favor, non me envíe documentos con extensións .doc, .docx, .xls, .xlsx, .ppt, .pptx, aínda podendoo facer, non os abro. Atendendo á lexislación vixente, empregue formatos estándares e abertos. http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument#Tipos_de_ficheros -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJUPYN7AAoJEB3niTly2pPQcDIQAIXxeFqbT4FEiB9tDH+/eyoc lqJ3TnaEuzyFxNF6lvz4Q4cJVvFHLrQVFH8yIK0BkHvInWzf995tVEYhKNIAbTF8 d0WCb1ELG7pSKbZKIB5wEGKdC05PQfEpK4RekQ/1e3RipXPL7xOd6eD71FRa+VFf 23QBPU7PRH5Jq57QXVvvdx0RO1zJ0ijTs91iHDRFRFrdjZ4OhRbcq1cD1WozzJ3S 0LoblsGowDDs7S/I/1MXlkNHy9nD1a5PAEHAksVZy2CPwDQ5IzJOeHGfHxWfcBPp ynGRby45sLaOxJmfVraB4TUNt2jymF5MLQzOhO3H4N8DQr+GcP5yD6iesf1x4WMT 0pWkTG8nQwflshcsKbisg7FM42Y/duy9+NEAjekFL1Vh4bWUrOAZx8NpIv8o6qQq b4IHCn4hCPAEPYj2wyVJyFW1LVJUhKZZkRgtwlDi724dtpGZBwHqvoeBNRDbAVbM jsimHU9iEn1gKpa6E81a0v6QQh/q+TiCbxalA48qZKnUs6is6tInYQ5CcVldubtX dhbEUDMB7bcQT1TO4UFm+KpzJlbZ4tf+xKNvWPYrCPqn1GttnXq+3/bTeQPHW3gf fLgNdlNt3JHVnpcRw/k+cbImQbPMmWTcgbUHXwUXXXAs/FTXUagfUVDLEpN6rDp7 U/MwuGi/M86deR8pMugc =D4qk -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] HOT Projects issues triaging - second iteration (let's try again)
Unfortunately I'm going to miss this week's triage session ... but looking forward to the results and the next one. * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 1:26 PM, Kate Chapman kate.chap...@hotosm.org wrote: Hi Drazen, That works for me. Best, -Kate On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Dražen Odobašić dodo...@geoinfo.geof.hr wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, can we schedule Issue triaging sometime this week? We can try to do it on Thursday 16. October at 17:00 UTC ! [0] Dražen [0] http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=1440iso=20141016T17msg=HOT%20Projects%20issues%20triaging%20-%20iteration%202 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUPVcrAAoJENKPwRouT2y93e8IAIy3xYlN73etjpViieAQyTpP r+g1o9wgj+96a7Tsb5w3Dt0Ab90aCphvDgDDmNC4KaxHs8nz8LJW+8NN0Ih56GVq aKYuTQSRUbIGJMvJ8TFtjABnZ/mCxzCPRZpIcIaIg8VV081b+x7k9otacBbmYtg4 EUG24pG08WjrDhhD8Kr/E6QEMyTowuKyV/pfZToY0A6h1GwvGDbvU8Wkngv3Y5WY Qob29HoPDcD8W5lCFcGehC1vXHMMpVxaQznaJrmfTFRdTw7UjnCiOhQPZ02EBq86 cJ5ep5x98JEa/8Km7TMsBWVI8a9iSUzswPAulbED90rOkikzWOOUKmtaBNqxLC0= =HQXU -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -- Kate Chapman Executive Director email: kate.chap...@hotosm.org U.S. mobile: +1 703 673 8834 Indonesian mobile: +62 82123068370 Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team Using OpenStreetMap for Humanitarian Response Economic Development web | twitter | facebook | donate ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
