Re: [HOT] [talk-oam] Crowdsourcing Point Clouds for Disaster Response
Definitely, @Patrick,
Cheers,
Best,
Steve
On Apr 11, 2015 12:52 AM, Patrick Meier patr...@irevolutions.org wrote:
Hi All,
Many thanks for exploring my blog post further as I'd really like to move
forward on this.
@Stephen, can we look into possible integration between OpenDroneMap and
MicroMappers to make this happen?
Thanks again,
Patrick
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On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 8:47 PM, Stephen Mather step...@smathermather.com
wrote:
One additional thought -- point clouds are a nice product from image
matching, as are orthophotos. I've been thinking for a while that
Pictometry/Bird's eye view-like output would be another valuable product
that could be generated with OpenDroneMap.
Ok, back to Friday night.
Cheers,
Best,
Steve
On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 8:42 PM, Stephen Mather
step...@smathermather.com wrote:
Ok, did a terrible job reading Patrick's post initially. The last couple
of paragraphs take it home to an interesting proposition. Ahem. Sorry for
replying without deep reading... I blame Friday night.
This is a really interesting proposal -- especially proposal of a
platform, and crowd sourcing + AI for feature identification. I could see a
role for ODM in this.
Cheers,
Best,
Steve
On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 8:10 PM, Stephen Mather
step...@smathermather.com wrote:
Here's the one minute summary for OpenDroneMap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UctfoeNB_Yfeature=youtu.be
I think an important space to solve is the hosting of point clouds.
Howard Butler and crew are working in this. For the client side of this,
see e.g. http://plas.io
I agree with Patrick's implication (or perhaps I'm inferring) that it
world be great to see someone addressing the hosting and visualization of
point clouds for humanitarian response. AFAIK, Howard's work is the
furthest along in solving these specific technical problems.
Cheers,
Best,
Steve
On Apr 10, 2015 7:59 PM, Stephen Mather step...@smathermather.com
wrote:
Hi Christian, Patrick,
OpenDroneMap does this, is open source and under active development.
Cheers!
Best,
Steve
On Apr 10, 2015 2:42 PM, Christian Ledermann
christian.lederm...@gmail.com wrote:
Point Clouds, or 3D models derived from high resolution aerial
imagery, are in fact nothing new. Several software platforms already
exist to reconstruct a series of 2D aerial images into fully fledged
3D-fly-through models.
http://irevolution.net/2015/04/09/crowdsourcing-point-clouds-for-disaster-response/
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London - UK
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https://github.com/cleder/
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Re: [HOT] [talk-oam] Crowdsourcing Point Clouds for Disaster Response
Hi All,
Many thanks for exploring my blog post further as I'd really like to move
forward on this.
@Stephen, can we look into possible integration between OpenDroneMap and
MicroMappers to make this happen?
Thanks again,
Patrick
---
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Blog: iRevolutions.org http://www.irevolutions.org/ (1.5M hits)
Book: Digital-Humanitarians.com http://www.digital-humanitarians.com/
Newsletter: Digital Humanitarians http://eepurl.com/9O7Y9
On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 8:47 PM, Stephen Mather step...@smathermather.com
wrote:
One additional thought -- point clouds are a nice product from image
matching, as are orthophotos. I've been thinking for a while that
Pictometry/Bird's eye view-like output would be another valuable product
that could be generated with OpenDroneMap.
Ok, back to Friday night.
Cheers,
Best,
Steve
On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 8:42 PM, Stephen Mather step...@smathermather.com
wrote:
Ok, did a terrible job reading Patrick's post initially. The last couple
of paragraphs take it home to an interesting proposition. Ahem. Sorry for
replying without deep reading... I blame Friday night.
This is a really interesting proposal -- especially proposal of a
platform, and crowd sourcing + AI for feature identification. I could see a
role for ODM in this.
Cheers,
Best,
Steve
On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 8:10 PM, Stephen Mather
step...@smathermather.com wrote:
Here's the one minute summary for OpenDroneMap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UctfoeNB_Yfeature=youtu.be
I think an important space to solve is the hosting of point clouds.
Howard Butler and crew are working in this. For the client side of this,
see e.g. http://plas.io
I agree with Patrick's implication (or perhaps I'm inferring) that it
world be great to see someone addressing the hosting and visualization of
point clouds for humanitarian response. AFAIK, Howard's work is the
furthest along in solving these specific technical problems.
Cheers,
Best,
Steve
On Apr 10, 2015 7:59 PM, Stephen Mather step...@smathermather.com
wrote:
Hi Christian, Patrick,
OpenDroneMap does this, is open source and under active development.
Cheers!
Best,
Steve
On Apr 10, 2015 2:42 PM, Christian Ledermann
christian.lederm...@gmail.com wrote:
Point Clouds, or 3D models derived from high resolution aerial
imagery, are in fact nothing new. Several software platforms already
exist to reconstruct a series of 2D aerial images into fully fledged
3D-fly-through models.
http://irevolution.net/2015/04/09/crowdsourcing-point-clouds-for-disaster-response/
--
Best Regards,
Christian Ledermann
London - UK
Mobile : +44 7474997517
https://www.linkedin.com/in/christianledermann
https://github.com/cleder/
*))){
If you save the living environment, the biodiversity that we have left,
you will also automatically save the physical environment, too. But If
you only save the physical environment, you will ultimately lose both.
1) Don’t drive species to extinction
2) Don’t destroy a habitat that species rely on.
3) Don’t change the climate in ways that will result in the above.
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Re: [HOT] Training volunteers in Albania
Hi there, a correction. Our correct website is www.openlabs.cc. As Open Labs I have to admit that there is so much more to do in OSM from the local community. At the moment we are focused in organizing OSCAL Conference ( http://oscal.openlabs.cc/), but I will raise this as an issue in the next community meeting. We have Besfort Guri from Kosova talking about similar issues in the conference, and I'll personally organise an open discussion about OSM as well. Thanks for pointing this out. *---* *Redon Skikuli* *e-mail: **re...@skikuli.com re...@skikuli.com* *web: **www.skikuli.com http://www.skikuli.com* On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Howdy, check out openlabs.com which is a group who is working on open source and knowledge projects in Albania. in 2010 I was working on the flooding in Shokder, work page here with some non dead links. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/AlbanianFloodingCrisisCamp We have a mailing list with many users from Kosovo on it, there might be some from Albania. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/gis-kosova mike On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 4:54 AM, malenki o...@malenki.ch wrote: About a month ago I stumbled over some beginners mapping in Tirana (capital of Albania). Though the edits were not too useful they were tagged with #hotosm-project-926 #PeaceCorps #PeaceCorpsAlbania source=Bing so I thought to do nothing for the time being since the connected task http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/926 said | The Peace Corps Program in Tirana is training Volunteers […] But after a month the data isn't changed/corrected and my message¹ to the creator of the task sent on 24th of March still is not answered. A mentioning of the issue on IRC on March 28th also don't give results. My view of the issue is: Which worth has a training when the trainees don't get feedback? The creator of the task (which I assume the trainer) hasn't made a single edit in Albania. The data created during the task wasn't enhanced after creating it. Now I'd like to hand over the issue to people with more experience in HOT. Regards Thomas ¹ The message I sent: Mirëdita [Albanian good day] $User you created HOT task 926¹ for training volunteers in Albania. I welcome people mapping a country I really like and of course HOT is an invaluable program. But when you are /training/ people you should also teach them how to do stuff and give feedback to what they mapped. Else they may produce just a lot of unhelpful data. I didn't investigate on purpose but so far I stumbled over following issues: duplicate houses (mapped by the same mapper https://www.osm.org/#map=21/41.3330021/19.7839432 houses with offset to its basements https://www.osm.org/#map=20/41.333141/19.782218 houses drawn over highways https://www.osm.org/#map=20/41.333141/19.782218 ways of outlines only tagged with area=yes e.g.: https://www.osm.org/#map=19/41.334339/19.788208 In Tirana I found 103 ways which were tagged this way and belong to HOT task 926. I also found a highway=road dragged over a correct highway which I just corrected in the hope that the other stuff would be vanish due to a training supervisor - which didn't happen. Please tell your trainees that, when they map the outline of a roof, they should afterwards drag it to the ground floor of the building. The higher the building the worse the offset due to the sloped angle of the aerial photograph. Please also tell them about the function make rectangular which every editor has. (When using JOSM, don't forget to mention the plugin buildings_tools (which enables drawing and tagging a house with two clicks) and the extrude tool). Best Regards from Germany Thomas ¹ http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/926 ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://www.flossk.org Saving Wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Training volunteers in Albania
Things Lab https://www.facebook.com/ThingsLabTirana Is the group that I am supporting now, one of the member of the lab wants to work with OSM. I will put him in contact with you. On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Howdy, check out openlabs.com which is a group who is working on open source and knowledge projects in Albania. in 2010 I was working on the flooding in Shokder, work page here with some non dead links. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/AlbanianFloodingCrisisCamp We have a mailing list with many users from Kosovo on it, there might be some from Albania. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/gis-kosova mike On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 4:54 AM, malenki o...@malenki.ch wrote: About a month ago I stumbled over some beginners mapping in Tirana (capital of Albania). Though the edits were not too useful they were tagged with #hotosm-project-926 #PeaceCorps #PeaceCorpsAlbania source=Bing so I thought to do nothing for the time being since the connected task http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/926 said | The Peace Corps Program in Tirana is training Volunteers […] But after a month the data isn't changed/corrected and my message¹ to the creator of the task sent on 24th of March still is not answered. A mentioning of the issue on IRC on March 28th also don't give results. My view of the issue is: Which worth has a training when the trainees don't get feedback? The creator of the task (which I assume the trainer) hasn't made a single edit in Albania. The data created during the task wasn't enhanced after creating it. Now I'd like to hand over the issue to people with more experience in HOT. Regards Thomas ¹ The message I sent: Mirëdita [Albanian good day] $User you created HOT task 926¹ for training volunteers in Albania. I welcome people mapping a country I really like and of course HOT is an invaluable program. But when you are /training/ people you should also teach them how to do stuff and give feedback to what they mapped. Else they may produce just a lot of unhelpful data. I didn't investigate on purpose but so far I stumbled over following issues: duplicate houses (mapped by the same mapper https://www.osm.org/#map=21/41.3330021/19.7839432 houses with offset to its basements https://www.osm.org/#map=20/41.333141/19.782218 houses drawn over highways https://www.osm.org/#map=20/41.333141/19.782218 ways of outlines only tagged with area=yes e.g.: https://www.osm.org/#map=19/41.334339/19.788208 In Tirana I found 103 ways which were tagged this way and belong to HOT task 926. I also found a highway=road dragged over a correct highway which I just corrected in the hope that the other stuff would be vanish due to a training supervisor - which didn't happen. Please tell your trainees that, when they map the outline of a roof, they should afterwards drag it to the ground floor of the building. The higher the building the worse the offset due to the sloped angle of the aerial photograph. Please also tell them about the function make rectangular which every editor has. (When using JOSM, don't forget to mention the plugin buildings_tools (which enables drawing and tagging a house with two clicks) and the extrude tool). Best Regards from Germany Thomas ¹ http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/926 ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://www.flossk.org Saving Wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] Bing coverage dropped dramatically in Taiwan
Forwarding to HOT, definitely of interest to some here particularly for areas with ongoing activation. cheers, Maning Sambale (mobile) -- Forwarded message -- From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Date: Apr 11, 2015 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Bing coverage dropped dramatically in Taiwan To: Hsiao-Ting Yu [:littlebtc] sst.dre...@gmail.com Cc: osm-talk t...@openstreetmap.org Same case reported in the Philippines. cheers, Maning Sambale (mobile) On Apr 11, 2015 12:20 AM, Hsiao-Ting Yu [:littlebtc] sst.dre...@gmail.com wrote: For mappers in Taiwan, currently the Bing imagery is the only way to draw details in Taiwan, since only Bing has good zoom 18+ coverage in Taiwan. However since the imagery updated this week the coverage dramatically dropped. Though some region had been updated, a lot of areas, like Taipei, Miaoli, and Kaohsiung, all zoom 14+ images were disappeared. It is frustrating. This issue had been lasted for several days, and we had reported the imagery lost in the Bing maps report form. Is there any other ways we can report and get this fixed? -- Littlebtc / 笨笨的小B / 小犬 (Xiaoquan) http://blog.littleb.tc ___ talk mailing list t...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
