Re: [HOT] South Sudan mapping - abandoned / destroyed buildings / settlements
Blake Many thanks for coming back on this. The task area in question is 82 (bottom right) of #1167 - Boma, South Sudan. I will go back and edit this as you suggest shortly. The area concerned is about one third the way down to the right of centre in the square. I have only plotted two clear hut remains, and there are a couple more which are probably sufficiently clear to add. Andrew On 1 September 2015 at 13:23, Blake Girardot wrote: > Hi Andrew, > > Yes, please map buildings and settlements that are visible but damaged or > destroyed. It is really helpful to map things you come across that you > think are interesting or important (man made towers, bridges, dams, etc) > but are not in the instructions. You are never limited by the instructions, > you can always map other things. > > Not having seen the area it is hard to pick the exact tags. Even seeing > the area/buildings it can be hard to pick the best tags as this area of > tagging gets a lot of discussion. > > Can you share the task square number or url for the task square that > contains the area in question? > > Generally, if the area is in or part of a larger settlement and damaged > but likely to be rebuilt we will tag it as landuse=brownfield, as is often > the case after natural disasters. > > If this is a whole settlement that is destroyed and abandoned, I would > suggest putting the prefix abandoned: (also called a "namespace" on any of > the tags you would normally put on it. > > some examples: > > abandoned:building=yes > abandoned:landuse=residential > > For reference, here is the wiki page about that: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:abandoned: > > And like I said, that is how I would do it and others might have some > differing opinions, but that is what makes the most sense to me for the > tags we have now as I understand them. > > If you use the iD editor that can be a little tedious to do, in JOSM we > can edit lots of objects at once, so if you map in the buildings and then > send me a note, I can put the full tag on them. > > Thank you again for helping map and especially for asking questions and > sharing your mapping with the list, we all learn and become better mappers > when that happens! > > Cheers, > Blake > > > > > > On 9/1/2015 11:23 AM, Andrew Patterson wrote: > >> I have been mapping on the South Sudan task that Blake has added to the >> list and in doing so have come across a small abandoned or destroyed >> settlement. Given the history of the area is it valid to map such a >> feature so that it is recorded - or should it be ignored since it is not >> included within the Instructions? I can see that there might be a >> conflict in this between humanitarian and political mapping. >> >> I have left it on the task area for the moment, but can delete it if >> this is felt to be appropriate. If it should be left - how to tag? >> >> >> Andrew >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Andrew Patterson >> >> The information contained in this e-mail and any >> files transmitted with it is confidential and intended for the addressee >> only. >> >> >> ___ >> HOT mailing list >> HOT@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> >> -- Andrew Patterson The information contained in this e-mail and any files transmitted with it is confidential and intended for the addressee only. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] street view for Liberia
Hi Hassan, Welcome to the HOT community! We have some people who are very experienced in organizing mapping projects in Liberia. Working with NGOs both inside the country and outside the country is our core function. We are very dedicated to working with people on the ground in the areas we map as local knowledge and experience is needed to making the best maps possible and we learn so much that supports our remote mapping efforts as well. As to the local street view, maybe someone else has a good source, but we often use the free service, Mapillary for "street view like" functionality: https://www.mapillary.com/ Which does not look like it has anything uploaded from Liberia yet. As to the aerial imagery, we also have a project called "OpenAerialMap" and the "OpenImageryNetwork" which are designed to accept aerial imagery from just about any source and make that imagery available for public use. http://openaerialmap.org/ I really look forward to working with you and Humanity First. Cheers, Blake On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Hassan Mubarak wrote: > Dear HOT members > > By way of introduction my name is Hassan Ahmed. I am currently working with > an NGO called Humanity First in Liberia. We were interested in how we can > help in collecting digital map data for Liberia. In particular I saw a > project regarding the ebola 2014 mapping. We were also interested in > developing navigable street views and aerial views. Any guidance regarding > how we can work together would much appreciated. > > regards, > Hassan Ahmed > project manager > Libera projects > > The information contained within this message and any attachment is intended > only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may > contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from > disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this communication in > error, kindly notify the sender by reply email and delete the original > message and any copies immediately. Statements or opinions in this message > not related to the official business of Humanity First are those of the > author and are not necessarily agreed or endorsed by the organization. > Humanity First may monitor emails sent or received for operational or > business reasons as permitted by law. No representation is made that this > message or its attachments are without defect. > > ___ > HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > -- Blake Girardot Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team Vice President, HOT Board of Directors skype: jblakegirardot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] street view for Liberia
Dear HOT members By way of introduction my name is Hassan Ahmed. I am currently working with an NGO called Humanity First in Liberia. We were interested in how we can help in collecting digital map data for Liberia. In particular I saw a project regarding the ebola 2014 mapping. We were also interested in developing navigable street views and aerial views. Any guidance regarding how we can work together would much appreciated. regards, Hassan Ahmed project manager Libera projects -- The information contained within this message and any attachment is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this communication in error, kindly notify the sender by reply email and delete the original message and any copies immediately. Statements or opinions in this message not related to the official business of Humanity First are those of the author and are not necessarily agreed or endorsed by the organization. Humanity First may monitor emails sent or received for operational or business reasons as permitted by law. No representation is made that this message or its attachments are without defect. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] South Sudan mapping
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It is definitely worth mapping. In Nepal they were using landuse=brownfield for the area around a village which had been destroyed (like what we do with landuse=residential). If you want to map the buildings themselves you could do something like abandoned:building=yes or destroyed:building=yes. - -AndrewBuck On 09/01/2015 04:23 AM, Andrew Patterson wrote: > I have been mapping on the South Sudan task that Blake has added to > the list and in doing so have come across a small abandoned or > destroyed settlement. Given the history of the area is it valid to > map such a feature so that it is recorded - or should it be ignored > since it is not included within the Instructions? I can see that > there might be a conflict in this between humanitarian and > political mapping. > > I have left it on the task area for the moment, but can delete it > if this is felt to be appropriate. If it should be left - how to > tag? > > > Andrew > > > > > > > ___ HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJV5ZjVAAoJEK7RwIfxHSXbYF4QAISSCQS7K6CRDe7Di8351X9s W18z8FHMQ1b5W9czIVcycLCAs0/JodkJfu7A4m8RD1+jGSl9ECgmA7uHL6SZ4Osk oXP2v8co2j0SknWxNvuAlyzX+fE8HvGAcwp/gxnvqFTB5A/dhuMYvQt0+9LXv1dJ okZS9/fmNfkTdCme/ysWffXS4tG7BlWha49PSBnA6CTedsgxHLpHtW9XsyMIoiEE HcC4PsqpPT1kiAdCVwaJP5xCDNF0zhZjqPqdWkF0PgfUD6CM6SmsQM6Sj0tK0n+i W+4MEHOybNn/qhXVJaKfWCiDbEi08CKaGaBaKHd1pOh1V9BM4gmBsaWh2WeAU+W7 wufioZA8O7r1cUELe0xPbYaCwe+vL9Hn+ak4rKEgoWa86i3AvGMOs1aB1wqc4Voj I4YQzE0wnjy4jImeMzUR5fU+SzMAdlMPxLl2uDJku+u0XGu0MuFr/Vzb0xUCGZ5m QdLq6lr38dG1fYS3noWRQKIyyiCLrQ3T+fGY1caBc31PYaoSQpbyCEm6CRR38vus A5p1c1gwDd7RGBCLowMB98BACIiOBs4Dnga4wzOdTCuRSW0xKund7cZA1ARlfaJ7 dkHqF64s0XeBjPQs1G/JEyJnORUHUMKjcTFvqxlAt2l6BLgZdfdengRVa8X5zRAT nz9LB/c4tzX91rKgfJeA =zOZO -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] South Sudan mapping - abandoned / destroyed buildings / settlements
Hi Andrew, Yes, please map buildings and settlements that are visible but damaged or destroyed. It is really helpful to map things you come across that you think are interesting or important (man made towers, bridges, dams, etc) but are not in the instructions. You are never limited by the instructions, you can always map other things. Not having seen the area it is hard to pick the exact tags. Even seeing the area/buildings it can be hard to pick the best tags as this area of tagging gets a lot of discussion. Can you share the task square number or url for the task square that contains the area in question? Generally, if the area is in or part of a larger settlement and damaged but likely to be rebuilt we will tag it as landuse=brownfield, as is often the case after natural disasters. If this is a whole settlement that is destroyed and abandoned, I would suggest putting the prefix abandoned: (also called a "namespace" on any of the tags you would normally put on it. some examples: abandoned:building=yes abandoned:landuse=residential For reference, here is the wiki page about that: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:abandoned: And like I said, that is how I would do it and others might have some differing opinions, but that is what makes the most sense to me for the tags we have now as I understand them. If you use the iD editor that can be a little tedious to do, in JOSM we can edit lots of objects at once, so if you map in the buildings and then send me a note, I can put the full tag on them. Thank you again for helping map and especially for asking questions and sharing your mapping with the list, we all learn and become better mappers when that happens! Cheers, Blake On 9/1/2015 11:23 AM, Andrew Patterson wrote: I have been mapping on the South Sudan task that Blake has added to the list and in doing so have come across a small abandoned or destroyed settlement. Given the history of the area is it valid to map such a feature so that it is recorded - or should it be ignored since it is not included within the Instructions? I can see that there might be a conflict in this between humanitarian and political mapping. I have left it on the task area for the moment, but can delete it if this is felt to be appropriate. If it should be left - how to tag? Andrew -- Andrew Patterson The information contained in this e-mail and any files transmitted with it is confidential and intended for the addressee only. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] South Sudan mapping
I have been mapping on the South Sudan task that Blake has added to the list and in doing so have come across a small abandoned or destroyed settlement. Given the history of the area is it valid to map such a feature so that it is recorded - or should it be ignored since it is not included within the Instructions? I can see that there might be a conflict in this between humanitarian and political mapping. I have left it on the task area for the moment, but can delete it if this is felt to be appropriate. If it should be left - how to tag? Andrew -- Andrew Patterson The information contained in this e-mail and any files transmitted with it is confidential and intended for the addressee only. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] Validation
I like Daniel's "Start Mapping" and "Stop Mapping". The discussion seems to be evolving in the right direction as far as the text is concerned - but may I also mention the layout. The few times I have hit the "Mark Task is Done" button, I have been in a hurry and had been aiming for the "Unlock" button immediately to its left. Is there a need for two unlock buttons however they are labelled? - the higher button is well placed and has nothing close to it to add to my confusion ! Andrew -- Andrew Patterson The information contained in this e-mail and any files transmitted with it is confidential and intended for the addressee only. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
