Re: [HOT] Uganda Bureau Of Statistics Educational Facilities import has started

[Jo]

Hi Rafael,

I understand where the requirement for the separate account is coming from,
but I will always consider it too much of a hassle to switch. And in my
case I would be switching continuously.

So, I'll limit myself to validating the tiles. I hope it's all right to add
some of the buildings in that stage. I'm also automating the creation of
wikidata entries and linking from OSM to WD and back.

I don't promise that I'll do that for all 24000 of them though.

Cheers,

Jo

2016-01-22 20:39 GMT+01:00 Rafael Avila Coya :

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Hi, Jo:
>
> Thanks for your comments and help. Find my comments inline:
>
> On 22/01/16 08:34, Jo wrote:
> > Hi Rafael,
> >
> > Great that you got this started. Of course I managed to get the use
> > of import and not import account mixed up, as JOSM doesn't warn me
> > or give the option to switch in a convenient way. So the imported
> > node will probably have to be removed once again and the buildings
> > I added in a second go, are now uploaded with that silly import
> > account.
>
> Don't worry. I have reverted that "one node" changeset, and added
> again the school node with my edvac_import account.
>
> Apart from using your regular account, you uploaded the school without
> the import changesets: source=www.ubos.org (you put source=Bing),
> source:date=2010..2014, import=yes and
> url=
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Uganda/Import_Uganda_Bureau_Of_Statistics_Education_Facilities
>
> This has happened to other users in the past, so don't worry. Just
> remember to upload only school nodes (nothing else) with your
> Polyglot_import account, adding those changeset tags, and don't forget
> to switch back to your Polyglot regular account, so you don't use your
> import account for this import.
>
> Having to use a dedicated user account for every import is a
> requirement of the Import guidelines [1]: step 6.5: "You must use a
> dedicated user account."
>
> I think this requirement should be waived for crowsourced manual
> imports like this, but that is not something we should discuss here,
> but in the imports list. For the time being we have to comply with the
> community agreements we have in the import guidelines.
>
> This import is ***ONLY*** for school nodes. So we aren't adding
> buildings at this stage. But even if we wanted to add buildings,
> access road, etc, we would have done it in a different changeset, and
> with the ***regular account***, not the ***import account***, because
> buildings and road accesses aren't UBOS data, but derived directly
> from Bing, Mapbox, GPS traces, etc.
>
> If you can't live without adding school buildings, just make sure you
> do it in a second changeset after uploading the schools, but using
> your regular account.
>
> >
> > Sorry for the rant, what follows should be more interesting:
> >
> > Anyway, what I'm missing are the isced tags. Also the process
> > seems overly complicated to me. It's easier to skip the "Edit with
> > JOSM' button and go straight to the first "here" link. Then
> > download manually.
>
> As this import doesn't need to touch any OSM object, except
> educational facilities already present in OSM that may have to be
> merged with the UBOS ones, you can optionally, if you find it better,
> to download OSM data manually after downloading the UBOS data. Only
> make sure you download an area of at least 500+ m around every UBOS
> node, so you make sure you download every OSM educational facilities
> that may have to be merged with UBOS nodes.
>
> I didn't add the isced:level tags as it would be difficult to add them
> authomatically with the info we had. But we can add them in subsequent
> TM projects, like also the wikidata, etc.
>
> >
> > To find the new buildings, the filter method works, but Ctrl-f
> >
> > inview new Then tick the box:: 'add toolbar button'
> >
> > is a lot more convenient, with a shiny new button on the task bar.
> >
> > You can also create another button like this with:
> >
> > inview (school | university | kindergarten)
> >
> > if you add "-new" to that, you can easily find all the existing
> > ones.
>
> This is very nice. As soon as I can (hope before the end of tomorrow),
> I will add it to the workflow wiki. It's a great idea!!
>
> >
> > Oh, for people mapping remotely, there is a local community in
> > Kampala. It's best to leave those schools for them, since they have
> > local knowledge about them and since it's harder to figure out
> > which buildings belong to the school for those from aerial imagery
> > alone. I think that's worthy of a note in the instructions.
>
> Yes! That's right! If the local Uganda OSM community tell me so, we
> could even remove all Kampala nodes, and transfer them to another
> dedicated TM project, dedicated only for on the ground mappers.
>
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Jo
>
> Cheers and thank you very much!
>
> Rafael.
>
> [1]
> 

[HOT] #1429

[Mike Thompson]

Task #1429 calls for the collection of buildings only. If an existing osm
way representing a road goes through a building I presume that the road
should be adjusted so that it more closely matches the imagery, is this
correct?

Thanks,

Mike
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Re: [HOT] #1429

[Blake Girardot]

Hi Mike,

Yes please do fix up the road if it interferes.

Thank you very much for asking and mapping!

cheers,
Blake



On 1/22/2016 7:50 PM, Mike Thompson wrote:


Task #1429 calls for the collection of buildings only. If an existing
osm way representing a road goes through a building I presume that the
road should be adjusted so that it more closely matches the imagery, is
this correct?

Thanks,

Mike



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Re: [HOT] [hotosm-membership] HOT Board Minutes - December 2015 and January 2016

[Russell Deffner]

Thank you Jorieke,

I appreciate a little distraction at the moment, so I sit on the Advisory 
Council for the "I Love U Guys" Foundation (http://iloveuguys.org/) and think I 
could especially give some assistance in developing an application/vetting 
process (we have a nice short 'contract' with non-disclosure and such) if you 
are asking.

First thing that caught my eye,
=Russ

-Original Message-
From: Jorieke Vyncke [mailto:jorieke.vyn...@hotosm.org] 
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 12:30 PM
To: hot; membership; management
Subject: [hotosm-membership] HOT Board Minutes - December 2015 and January 2016

Hello hotties,

Sharing the board minutes of our December 2015 and January 2016
meetings with you.

Informal discussion December 9:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B65TOMtm9My4bnB6bk15dzdqN0U

Board meeting December 23:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B65TOMtm9My4NWZ2R1Y2WHRGRlE

Board meeting January 6:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B65TOMtm9My4azV1VUE3b01QOUU

Board meeting January 20:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B65TOMtm9My4Sk9lRGMweFJFX1k

Questions are like always welcome!

Best greetings,

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Re: [HOT] Uganda Bureau Of Statistics Educational Facilities import has started

[Rafael Avila Coya]

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Hi, Jo:

Thanks for your comments and help. Find my comments inline:

On 22/01/16 08:34, Jo wrote:
> Hi Rafael,
> 
> Great that you got this started. Of course I managed to get the use
> of import and not import account mixed up, as JOSM doesn't warn me
> or give the option to switch in a convenient way. So the imported
> node will probably have to be removed once again and the buildings
> I added in a second go, are now uploaded with that silly import
> account.

Don't worry. I have reverted that "one node" changeset, and added
again the school node with my edvac_import account.

Apart from using your regular account, you uploaded the school without
the import changesets: source=www.ubos.org (you put source=Bing),
source:date=2010..2014, import=yes and
url=https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Uganda/Import_Uganda_Bureau_Of_Statistics_Education_Facilities

This has happened to other users in the past, so don't worry. Just
remember to upload only school nodes (nothing else) with your
Polyglot_import account, adding those changeset tags, and don't forget
to switch back to your Polyglot regular account, so you don't use your
import account for this import.

Having to use a dedicated user account for every import is a
requirement of the Import guidelines [1]: step 6.5: "You must use a
dedicated user account."

I think this requirement should be waived for crowsourced manual
imports like this, but that is not something we should discuss here,
but in the imports list. For the time being we have to comply with the
community agreements we have in the import guidelines.

This import is ***ONLY*** for school nodes. So we aren't adding
buildings at this stage. But even if we wanted to add buildings,
access road, etc, we would have done it in a different changeset, and
with the ***regular account***, not the ***import account***, because
buildings and road accesses aren't UBOS data, but derived directly
from Bing, Mapbox, GPS traces, etc.

If you can't live without adding school buildings, just make sure you
do it in a second changeset after uploading the schools, but using
your regular account.

> 
> Sorry for the rant, what follows should be more interesting:
> 
> Anyway, what I'm missing are the isced tags. Also the process
> seems overly complicated to me. It's easier to skip the "Edit with
> JOSM' button and go straight to the first "here" link. Then
> download manually.

As this import doesn't need to touch any OSM object, except
educational facilities already present in OSM that may have to be
merged with the UBOS ones, you can optionally, if you find it better,
to download OSM data manually after downloading the UBOS data. Only
make sure you download an area of at least 500+ m around every UBOS
node, so you make sure you download every OSM educational facilities
that may have to be merged with UBOS nodes.

I didn't add the isced:level tags as it would be difficult to add them
authomatically with the info we had. But we can add them in subsequent
TM projects, like also the wikidata, etc.

> 
> To find the new buildings, the filter method works, but Ctrl-f
> 
> inview new Then tick the box:: 'add toolbar button'
> 
> is a lot more convenient, with a shiny new button on the task bar.
> 
> You can also create another button like this with:
> 
> inview (school | university | kindergarten)
> 
> if you add "-new" to that, you can easily find all the existing
> ones.

This is very nice. As soon as I can (hope before the end of tomorrow),
I will add it to the workflow wiki. It's a great idea!!

> 
> Oh, for people mapping remotely, there is a local community in
> Kampala. It's best to leave those schools for them, since they have
> local knowledge about them and since it's harder to figure out
> which buildings belong to the school for those from aerial imagery
> alone. I think that's worthy of a note in the instructions.

Yes! That's right! If the local Uganda OSM community tell me so, we
could even remove all Kampala nodes, and transfer them to another
dedicated TM project, dedicated only for on the ground mappers.

> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Jo

Cheers and thank you very much!

Rafael.

[1]
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines#Step_6_-_Uploading

> 
> 2016-01-22 0:06 GMT+01:00 Rafael Avila Coya  >:
> 
> Hi all:
> 
> A new manual import through the Tasking Manager is open for 
> experienced mappers, this time for the import of 24,587
> educational facilities (nurseries, primary and secondary schools,
> colleges...) all around Uganda.
> 
> As the total number of nodes is very high, it was decided not to
> add any contextual data as it was done in previous imports,
> starting with the Central African Rep. UNICEF import. We will be
> able to add contextual data, like facilities road access,
> facilities buildings, settlement names (derived from the facilities
> addr:* tags), wikidata tags, etc., 

[HOT] HOT Board Minutes - December 2015 and January 2016

[Jorieke Vyncke]

Hello hotties,

Sharing the board minutes of our December 2015 and January 2016
meetings with you.

Informal discussion December 9:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B65TOMtm9My4bnB6bk15dzdqN0U

Board meeting December 23:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B65TOMtm9My4NWZ2R1Y2WHRGRlE

Board meeting January 6:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B65TOMtm9My4azV1VUE3b01QOUU

Board meeting January 20:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B65TOMtm9My4Sk9lRGMweFJFX1k

Questions are like always welcome!

Best greetings,

Jorieke

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Re: [HOT] Fwd: Troubles opening Tasking manager in josm and potlatch

[Mike Thompson]

Changing to http worked for me! Thanks!

On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 2:17 AM, Paul Uithol  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> One more confirmation. Occurred on a number of our student's computers
> this morning. Fortunately, I'd seen Blake's comment on https over breakfast
> ;). Saved us a lot of time trying to figure out what's happening,
> thanks!
>
> Simply removing the 's' from the url did the trick for us.
>
> Paul
>
>
> On 22-01-2016 12:07, Claudia Mocci wrote:
>
> Hi
> thank you  all for the help!  I was comforted to see all those mails.
>
> I'll try Pierre's recommandation and send a mail to the students. I
> fortunately made to do the training using ID.
>
> Thanks again to everyone.
>
> Ciao from Sardinia
>
> 2016-01-22 9:20 GMT+01:00 Pierre GIRAUD :
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> So it's all about HTTPS.
>> Thanks Blake for the catch.
>> I can reproduce the bug on my computer too.
>> I opened an issue
>> https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues/735
>>
>> For people who are using Chrome and are currently stuck, you can try
>> using HTTP. In order to do so, you may have to prevent Chrome from
>> redirecting automatically to HTTPS.
>>
>> http://superuser.com/questions/565409/chrome-how-to-stop-redirect-from-http-to-https
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Pierre
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 6:43 AM, Blake Girardot < 
>> bgirar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I just did a quick test on ubuntu trusty with firefox and chrome.
>> >
>> > It looks like both browsers fail to hand off to josm when using httpS
>> >
>> > Chrome did not give an error message, but firefox asks is remote
>> control is
>> > enabled in josm.
>> >
>> > Interestingly the same thing seems to happen on windows 7 too, TM
>> doesn't
>> > hand off to josm when using https, ff offers the dialog, chrome just
>> fails
>> > to silently.
>> >
>> > Two different versions of josm, both have https support enabled in the
>> > remote control prefs.
>> >
>> > and I also think it used to work fine for me, but I do not remember how
>> long
>> > ago i tried it.
>> >
>> > cheers
>> > blake
>> >
>> > On 1/22/2016 6:16 AM, Ahasanul Hoque wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I faced the same issue while coordinating a mappathon in last 12-14
>> >> January in Dhaka. Among 16 mappers only 3 person were able to work with
>> >> JOSM. We tried all the options,like replicating the same version JOSM
>> >> and browser of those 3 persons for the rest, changing the different
>> JOSM
>> >> versions but if didnt work. Though the remote control was active but
>> the
>> >> task wasn't opening after clicking. Finally we gave up and did the
>> >> editing using iD. Still much eager to know the solution. Please share
>> if
>> >> you get any.
>> >>
>> >> Fyi, we were working on the missingMaps project #1391
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >> Ahasan
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> .
>> >> Ahasanul Hoque
>> >> GIS & Env. Data Mgt Specialist
>> >> MSc in RS and GIS | /AIT, Thailand./
>> >> MSc. in Env. Science| /KU, Bangladesh./
>> >> 
>> >> *Diploma in Disaster Mgt & Humanitarian Response* |
>> >> /Uni of Hawai-USA, UNU, Keio& Okayama - Japan; AIT-Thailand./
>> >> *''Env. Sant. & Waste Mangt in Developing Countries'| *CES, UGENT-
>> >> Belgium.
>> >> *Contact: *hoque.aha...@gmail.com ;
>> >> ahasan...@yahoo.com | Web:
>> >> *ahasanulhoque.com* < 
>> http://ahasanulhoque.com/>
>> >> *Skype: *ahasan4u | *Linkedin: *_ 
>> http://tinyurl.com/njg3xsp _
>> >>
>> >> Please, Consider the Environment before Printing this Mail !!!
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Mike Thompson > >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I think I am having the same issue.  If you have JOSM running with
>> >> remote control enabled, you should be able to click "edit with
>> JOSM"
>> >> from the tasking manager and the data should be downloaded in JOSM,
>> >> right?  I am running Windows 7 on the machine in question, but my
>> >> Linux box exhibits the same issue.  In both cases I am using
>> >> Chrome.  I think this was working a couple of months ago when I
>> last
>> >> tried it. Admittedly I have not done a lot of troubleshooting yet,
>> >>   I wanted to check if my understanding of the intended
>> >> functionality was correct first.  I am not getting any error
>> messages.
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Pierre GIRAUD
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Claudia,
>> >>
>> >> Are you trying to work on a specific project in the tasking
>> >> manager?
>> >> Or do you have the same problems with any task in any project?
>> >>
>> >> How did you start JOSM?
>> >> If you are running the "java -jar 

Re: [HOT] #1429

[Mike Thompson]

Blake,

Thanks for the reply.

I am planning a Mapathon at Colorado State University next week and we plan
on having folks work on this project, so I thought I had better get some
experience with it ahead of time, as I am sure that the participants will
ask questions.

Mike

On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Blake Girardot 
wrote:

>
> Hi Mike,
>
> Yes please do fix up the road if it interferes.
>
> Thank you very much for asking and mapping!
>
> cheers,
> Blake
>
>
>
>
> On 1/22/2016 7:50 PM, Mike Thompson wrote:
>
>>
>> Task #1429 calls for the collection of buildings only. If an existing
>> osm way representing a road goes through a building I presume that the
>> road should be adjusted so that it more closely matches the imagery, is
>> this correct?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
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Re: [HOT] #1429

[Blake Girardot]

Oh that sounds great Mike,

Let me know if you run into any problems, or other questions, or want me 
to stick a default #hashtag in to the comment field for your university 
or group to help visualize your mapathon's results. It might get a 
little mixed in with other mappers, but still works pretty well.


Or if need be and 1429 gets too close to finished, I can make the next 
project available. I will keep my eye out for it.


If you haven't seen it yet, Missing Maps project page has a pretty good 
checklist and some hand outs:


http://www.missingmaps.org/mapathons/

Cheers,
Blake



On 1/22/2016 8:32 PM, Mike Thompson wrote:

Blake,

Thanks for the reply.

I am planning a Mapathon at Colorado State University next week and we
plan on having folks work on this project, so I thought I had better get
some experience with it ahead of time, as I am sure that the
participants will ask questions.

Mike

On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Blake Girardot > wrote:


Hi Mike,

Yes please do fix up the road if it interferes.

Thank you very much for asking and mapping!

cheers,
Blake




On 1/22/2016 7:50 PM, Mike Thompson wrote:


Task #1429 calls for the collection of buildings only. If an
existing
osm way representing a road goes through a building I presume
that the
road should be adjusted so that it more closely matches the
imagery, is
this correct?

Thanks,

Mike



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Re: [HOT] landuse/cover import in Cameroon?

[Sander Deryckere]

I just made a forum post about it too:
http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=572779#p572779

The data is just horrible. Next to all technical issues (like overlapping
nodes and ways, and nodes distributed in a grid), there are also tagging
issues. The import is done in tiles, and when passing from one tile to the
other, scrub suddenly changes to farmland, and forest to scrub.
Adittionally, instead of mapping residential area around residential
centers, they map scrub in many cases.

I would expect this data to be deduced from height measurements, where low
height is just considered scrub or farmland (depending on the importer),
and high features are considered forest.

As the import isn't discussed, and it's not even sure the data source is
legal, I'd be in favour of a complete revert before it turns into an nth
TIGER nightmare.

Regards,
Sander

2016-01-15 15:38 GMT+01:00 maning sambale :

> Hi,
>
> Yesterday, I stumbled into large changesets (>50K additions)[0] over
> Cameroon.
> Inspecting further this looks like landuse/cover data taken from
> satellite imagery and then converted to vector [1].
>
> Further, this seems like a group mapping [2].  9 people with changeset
> comment ENEO in Cameroon.
>
> Looking into the osm wiki, I didn't see any document about this.  I've
> not inspected any further if data is good or not.  Its just that the
> changeset is too big.
> I'm posting here since I know we have HOT initiatives in the region
> (might be related, might be not).  I'm just curious.
>
>
> [0] https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/36566406
> [1] https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/391344251
> [2]
> http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-changesets?comment=ENEO#8/4.962/11.714
>
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> maning
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Re: [HOT] Fwd: Troubles opening Tasking manager in josm and potlatch

[Claudia Mocci]

Hi
thank you  all for the help!  I was comforted to see all those mails.

I'll try Pierre's recommandation and send a mail to the students. I
fortunately made to do the training using ID.

Thanks again to everyone.

Ciao from Sardinia

2016-01-22 9:20 GMT+01:00 Pierre GIRAUD :

> Hi all,
>
> So it's all about HTTPS.
> Thanks Blake for the catch.
> I can reproduce the bug on my computer too.
> I opened an issue
> https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues/735
>
> For people who are using Chrome and are currently stuck, you can try
> using HTTP. In order to do so, you may have to prevent Chrome from
> redirecting automatically to HTTPS.
>
> http://superuser.com/questions/565409/chrome-how-to-stop-redirect-from-http-to-https
>
> Regards,
>
> Pierre
>
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 6:43 AM, Blake Girardot 
> wrote:
> >
> > I just did a quick test on ubuntu trusty with firefox and chrome.
> >
> > It looks like both browsers fail to hand off to josm when using httpS
> >
> > Chrome did not give an error message, but firefox asks is remote control
> is
> > enabled in josm.
> >
> > Interestingly the same thing seems to happen on windows 7 too, TM doesn't
> > hand off to josm when using https, ff offers the dialog, chrome just
> fails
> > to silently.
> >
> > Two different versions of josm, both have https support enabled in the
> > remote control prefs.
> >
> > and I also think it used to work fine for me, but I do not remember how
> long
> > ago i tried it.
> >
> > cheers
> > blake
> >
> > On 1/22/2016 6:16 AM, Ahasanul Hoque wrote:
> >>
> >> I faced the same issue while coordinating a mappathon in last 12-14
> >> January in Dhaka. Among 16 mappers only 3 person were able to work with
> >> JOSM. We tried all the options,like replicating the same version JOSM
> >> and browser of those 3 persons for the rest, changing the different JOSM
> >> versions but if didnt work. Though the remote control was active but the
> >> task wasn't opening after clicking. Finally we gave up and did the
> >> editing using iD. Still much eager to know the solution. Please share if
> >> you get any.
> >>
> >> Fyi, we were working on the missingMaps project #1391
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Ahasan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> .
> >> Ahasanul Hoque
> >> GIS & Env. Data Mgt Specialist
> >> MSc in RS and GIS | /AIT, Thailand./
> >> MSc. in Env. Science| /KU, Bangladesh./
> >> 
> >> *Diploma in Disaster Mgt & Humanitarian Response* |
> >> /Uni of Hawai-USA, UNU, Keio& Okayama - Japan; AIT-Thailand./
> >> *''Env. Sant. & Waste Mangt in Developing Countries'| *CES, UGENT-
> >> Belgium.
> >> *Contact: *hoque.aha...@gmail.com ;
> >> ahasan...@yahoo.com | Web:
> >> *ahasanulhoque.com* 
> >> *Skype: *ahasan4u | *Linkedin: *_http://tinyurl.com/njg3xsp _
> >>
> >> Please, Consider the Environment before Printing this Mail !!!
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Mike Thompson  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I think I am having the same issue.  If you have JOSM running with
> >> remote control enabled, you should be able to click "edit with JOSM"
> >> from the tasking manager and the data should be downloaded in JOSM,
> >> right?  I am running Windows 7 on the machine in question, but my
> >> Linux box exhibits the same issue.  In both cases I am using
> >> Chrome.  I think this was working a couple of months ago when I last
> >> tried it. Admittedly I have not done a lot of troubleshooting yet,
> >>   I wanted to check if my understanding of the intended
> >> functionality was correct first.  I am not getting any error
> messages.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Pierre GIRAUD
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Claudia,
> >>
> >> Are you trying to work on a specific project in the tasking
> >> manager?
> >> Or do you have the same problems with any task in any project?
> >>
> >> How did you start JOSM?
> >> If you are running the "java -jar josm-latest.jar" from the
> >> command
> >> line, do you see any error in the terminal that can help us
> >> determine
> >> what's wrong?
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Claudia Mocci
> >> > wrote:
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  > Hello to all of you
> >>  > I am Claudia from Italy. I'm having troublesopening all tasks
> >> from the
> >>  > Tasking Manager both  in Josm and Potlatch . The only editor
> >> working is ID .
> >>  >
> >>  > Josm: using ubuntu and firefox browser I 'm able to work on
> >> 

Re: [HOT] Fwd: Troubles opening Tasking manager in josm and potlatch

[Paul Uithol]

Hi all,

One more confirmation. Occurred on a number of our student's computers 
this morning. Fortunately, I'd seen Blake's comment on https over 
breakfast ;). Saved us a lot of time trying to figure out what's 
happening, thanks!


Simply removing the 's' from the url did the trick for us.

Paul


On 22-01-2016 12:07, Claudia Mocci wrote:

Hi
thank you  all for the help!  I was comforted to see all those mails.

I'll try Pierre's recommandation and send a mail to the students. I 
fortunately made to do the training using ID.


Thanks again to everyone.

Ciao from Sardinia

2016-01-22 9:20 GMT+01:00 Pierre GIRAUD >:


Hi all,

So it's all about HTTPS.
Thanks Blake for the catch.
I can reproduce the bug on my computer too.
I opened an issue
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues/735

For people who are using Chrome and are currently stuck, you can try
using HTTP. In order to do so, you may have to prevent Chrome from
redirecting automatically to HTTPS.

http://superuser.com/questions/565409/chrome-how-to-stop-redirect-from-http-to-https

Regards,

Pierre

On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 6:43 AM, Blake Girardot
> wrote:
>
> I just did a quick test on ubuntu trusty with firefox and chrome.
>
> It looks like both browsers fail to hand off to josm when using
httpS
>
> Chrome did not give an error message, but firefox asks is remote
control is
> enabled in josm.
>
> Interestingly the same thing seems to happen on windows 7 too,
TM doesn't
> hand off to josm when using https, ff offers the dialog, chrome
just fails
> to silently.
>
> Two different versions of josm, both have https support enabled
in the
> remote control prefs.
>
> and I also think it used to work fine for me, but I do not
remember how long
> ago i tried it.
>
> cheers
> blake
>
> On 1/22/2016 6:16 AM, Ahasanul Hoque wrote:
>>
>> I faced the same issue while coordinating a mappathon in last 12-14
>> January in Dhaka. Among 16 mappers only 3 person were able to
work with
>> JOSM. We tried all the options,like replicating the same
version JOSM
>> and browser of those 3 persons for the rest, changing the
different JOSM
>> versions but if didnt work. Though the remote control was
active but the
>> task wasn't opening after clicking. Finally we gave up and did the
>> editing using iD. Still much eager to know the solution. Please
share if
>> you get any.
>>
>> Fyi, we were working on the missingMaps project #1391
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Ahasan
>>
>>
>>

.
>> Ahasanul Hoque
>> GIS & Env. Data Mgt Specialist
>> MSc in RS and GIS | /AIT, Thailand./
>> MSc. in Env. Science| /KU, Bangladesh./
>> 
>> *Diploma in Disaster Mgt & Humanitarian Response* |
>> /Uni of Hawai-USA, UNU, Keio& Okayama - Japan; AIT-Thailand./
>> *''Env. Sant. & Waste Mangt in Developing Countries'| *CES, UGENT-
>> Belgium.
>> *Contact: *hoque.aha...@gmail.com
 >;
>> ahasan...@yahoo.com 
>| Web:
>> *ahasanulhoque.com *

>> *Skype: *ahasan4u | *Linkedin: *_http://tinyurl.com/njg3xsp _
>>
>> Please, Consider the Environment before Printing this Mail !!!
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Mike Thompson

>> >> wrote:
>>
>> I think I am having the same issue.  If you have JOSM
running with
>> remote control enabled, you should be able to click "edit
with JOSM"
>> from the tasking manager and the data should be downloaded
in JOSM,
>> right?  I am running Windows 7 on the machine in question,
but my
>> Linux box exhibits the same issue.  In both cases I am using
>> Chrome.  I think this was working a couple of months ago
when I last
>> tried it. Admittedly I have not done a lot of
troubleshooting yet,
>>   I wanted to check if my understanding of the intended
>> functionality was correct first.  I am not getting any
error messages.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Pierre GIRAUD
>> 
>>
wrote:
>>
>> Hi Claudia,
>>
>> 

Re: [HOT] Fwd: Troubles opening Tasking manager in josm and potlatch

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi all,

So it's all about HTTPS.
Thanks Blake for the catch.
I can reproduce the bug on my computer too.
I opened an issue https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues/735

For people who are using Chrome and are currently stuck, you can try
using HTTP. In order to do so, you may have to prevent Chrome from
redirecting automatically to HTTPS.
http://superuser.com/questions/565409/chrome-how-to-stop-redirect-from-http-to-https

Regards,

Pierre

On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 6:43 AM, Blake Girardot  wrote:
>
> I just did a quick test on ubuntu trusty with firefox and chrome.
>
> It looks like both browsers fail to hand off to josm when using httpS
>
> Chrome did not give an error message, but firefox asks is remote control is
> enabled in josm.
>
> Interestingly the same thing seems to happen on windows 7 too, TM doesn't
> hand off to josm when using https, ff offers the dialog, chrome just fails
> to silently.
>
> Two different versions of josm, both have https support enabled in the
> remote control prefs.
>
> and I also think it used to work fine for me, but I do not remember how long
> ago i tried it.
>
> cheers
> blake
>
> On 1/22/2016 6:16 AM, Ahasanul Hoque wrote:
>>
>> I faced the same issue while coordinating a mappathon in last 12-14
>> January in Dhaka. Among 16 mappers only 3 person were able to work with
>> JOSM. We tried all the options,like replicating the same version JOSM
>> and browser of those 3 persons for the rest, changing the different JOSM
>> versions but if didnt work. Though the remote control was active but the
>> task wasn't opening after clicking. Finally we gave up and did the
>> editing using iD. Still much eager to know the solution. Please share if
>> you get any.
>>
>> Fyi, we were working on the missingMaps project #1391
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Ahasan
>>
>>
>> .
>> Ahasanul Hoque
>> GIS & Env. Data Mgt Specialist
>> MSc in RS and GIS | /AIT, Thailand./
>> MSc. in Env. Science| /KU, Bangladesh./
>> 
>> *Diploma in Disaster Mgt & Humanitarian Response* |
>> /Uni of Hawai-USA, UNU, Keio& Okayama - Japan; AIT-Thailand./
>> *''Env. Sant. & Waste Mangt in Developing Countries'| *CES, UGENT-
>> Belgium.
>> *Contact: *hoque.aha...@gmail.com ;
>> ahasan...@yahoo.com | Web:
>> *ahasanulhoque.com* 
>> *Skype: *ahasan4u | *Linkedin: *_http://tinyurl.com/njg3xsp _
>>
>> Please, Consider the Environment before Printing this Mail !!!
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Mike Thompson > > wrote:
>>
>> I think I am having the same issue.  If you have JOSM running with
>> remote control enabled, you should be able to click "edit with JOSM"
>> from the tasking manager and the data should be downloaded in JOSM,
>> right?  I am running Windows 7 on the machine in question, but my
>> Linux box exhibits the same issue.  In both cases I am using
>> Chrome.  I think this was working a couple of months ago when I last
>> tried it. Admittedly I have not done a lot of troubleshooting yet,
>>   I wanted to check if my understanding of the intended
>> functionality was correct first.  I am not getting any error messages.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Pierre GIRAUD
>> > wrote:
>>
>> Hi Claudia,
>>
>> Are you trying to work on a specific project in the tasking
>> manager?
>> Or do you have the same problems with any task in any project?
>>
>> How did you start JOSM?
>> If you are running the "java -jar josm-latest.jar" from the
>> command
>> line, do you see any error in the terminal that can help us
>> determine
>> what's wrong?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Claudia Mocci
>> > wrote:
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > Hello to all of you
>>  > I am Claudia from Italy. I'm having troublesopening all tasks
>> from the
>>  > Tasking Manager both  in Josm and Potlatch . The only editor
>> working is ID .
>>  >
>>  > Josm: using ubuntu and firefox browser I 'm able to work on
>> the task, no way
>>  > to work on using google chrome browser. Potlatch isn't
>> working at all. I 've
>>  > asked Severin and Nicolas for some help , no working either
>> clicking on "
>>  > Tip: Download the following .gpx file and load it in JOSM in
>> order to see
>>  > the current task boundary" , coping and pasting the URL link
>> in Josm_file_
>>  > open location. I've got a bug error ( screenshot attached).
>> Using Windows
>>  > even Firefox isn't 

Re: [HOT] Uganda Bureau Of Statistics Educational Facilities import has started

[Jo]

Hi,

To help with validation and also to make people aware of those note:...
tags, I created a MapCSS style. It's in the list of Mappaint styles of
JOSM. I named it Schools.

It works in countries with more "regular" ways of addressing too.

Cheers,

Jo



2016-01-22 8:34 GMT+01:00 Jo :

> Hi Rafael,
>
> Great that you got this started. Of course I managed to get the use of
> import and not import account mixed up, as JOSM doesn't warn me or give the
> option to switch in a convenient way. So the imported node will probably
> have to be removed once again and the buildings I added in a second go, are
> now uploaded with that silly import account.
>
> Sorry for the rant, what follows should be more interesting:
>
> Anyway, what I'm missing are the isced tags. Also the process seems overly
> complicated to me. It's easier to skip the "Edit with JOSM' button and go
> straight to the first "here" link. Then download manually.
>
> To find the new buildings, the filter method works, but Ctrl-f
>
> inview new
> Then tick the box:: 'add toolbar button'
>
> is a lot more convenient, with a shiny new button on the task bar.
>
> You can also create another button like this with:
>
> inview (school | university | kindergarten)
>
> if you add "-new" to that, you can easily find all the existing ones.
>
> Oh, for people mapping remotely, there is a local community in Kampala.
> It's best to leave those schools for them, since they have local knowledge
> about them and since it's harder to figure out which buildings belong to
> the school for those from aerial imagery alone. I think that's worthy of a
> note in the instructions.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Jo
>
> 2016-01-22 0:06 GMT+01:00 Rafael Avila Coya :
>
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> Hi all:
>>
>> A new manual import through the Tasking Manager is open for
>> experienced mappers, this time for the import of 24,587 educational
>> facilities (nurseries, primary and secondary schools, colleges...) all
>> around Uganda.
>>
>> As the total number of nodes is very high, it was decided not to add
>> any contextual data as it was done in previous imports, starting with
>> the Central African Rep. UNICEF import. We will be able to add
>> contextual data, like facilities road access, facilities buildings,
>> settlement names (derived from the facilities addr:* tags), wikidata
>> tags, etc., after the import is finished, or maybe even during the
>> import, but with another TM project/s.
>>
>> Everyone is welcome to contribute, but specially the Uganda OSM community.
>>
>> You can find the detailed workflow wiki for this import here [1].
>> ***READING AND UNDERSTANDING THAT WIKI IS A MUST***, before you start
>> importing facilities.
>>
>> At the beginning of the workflow wiki you have a Quick Reference, so
>> you don't have to read the whole wiki everytime you need to recall the
>> import steps.
>>
>> Keep in mind that changesets that don't follow the rules (negociated
>> with the Uganda OSM community and the imports list) will have to be
>> reverted. Specially important is to use a dedicated OSM account (not
>> the regular account you use for regular mapping), and to add the
>> specific changeset tags of this import.
>>
>> You should also read the official import wiki [2], specially for
>> tagging reference.
>>
>> Happy mapping!
>>
>> Rafael.
>>
>> [1]
>>
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Uganda/Import_Uganda_Bureau_Of_Statistics_Education_Facilities_Workflow
>>
>> [2]
>>
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Uganda/Import_Uganda_Bureau_Of_Statistics_Education_Facilities
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[HOT] Ruggedized server stack for HA/DR support

[Dion Houston]

Hi all,

I don't write very frequently, so as a bit of background I'm a U.S. Army
officer.  Currently I head intelligence and geospatial support for a
theater engineer brigade.  One of the focal points not only of my unit, but
higher headquarters is disaster relief.  I found out about this mailing
list during the Nepal earthquakes, and it's definitely been very insightful.

What's become clear to me is for a variety of reasons, our current
geospatial equipment is not a good fit for these types of tasks.  Since I
come from a tech background, I'm interested in coming up with a solution to
this.

The specific scenario I'm contemplating is the equipment necessary to
deploy a team of 8 GIS analysts to read out imagery, create maps and other
products, and host them on a server accessible to recovery teams and other
parties, both U.S. government, partners, and NGOs.

The permissions piece is a separate and complicated process, but I was
wondering if based on specific experiences anyone can share lessons learned
and recommend either software or hardware to accomplish this (preferably
stuff with real world HA/DR usage).

The U.S. Army trains geospatial analysts in ArcGIS, so I think at least on
the client end I'd be looking at Windows, ArcGIS, and ? to read out imagery
to HOT?  On the server end it seems like there's more flexibility.

Thanks in advance for your input.  Hopefully if I can see this project to
completion it could mean closer interaction with your efforts in the future.

Respectfully,

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Re: [HOT] Uganda Bureau Of Statistics Educational Facilities import has started

[Rafael Avila Coya]

It looks very nice. I will add it to the workflow wiki too, in this case
as an appendix, to avoid making the wiki too lengthy!

Thank you, Jo,

Rafael.

On 22/01/16 15:08, Jo wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> To help with validation and also to make people aware of those note:...
> tags, I created a MapCSS style. It's in the list of Mappaint styles of
> JOSM. I named it Schools.
> 
> It works in countries with more "regular" ways of addressing too.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jo
> 
> 
> 
> 2016-01-22 8:34 GMT+01:00 Jo  >:
> 
> Hi Rafael,
> 
> Great that you got this started. Of course I managed to get the use
> of import and not import account mixed up, as JOSM doesn't warn me
> or give the option to switch in a convenient way. So the imported
> node will probably have to be removed once again and the buildings I
> added in a second go, are now uploaded with that silly import account.
> 
> Sorry for the rant, what follows should be more interesting:
> 
> Anyway, what I'm missing are the isced tags. Also the process seems
> overly complicated to me. It's easier to skip the "Edit with JOSM'
> button and go straight to the first "here" link. Then download manually.
> 
> To find the new buildings, the filter method works, but Ctrl-f
> 
> inview new
> Then tick the box:: 'add toolbar button'
> 
> is a lot more convenient, with a shiny new button on the task bar.
> 
> You can also create another button like this with:
> 
> inview (school | university | kindergarten)
> 
> if you add "-new" to that, you can easily find all the existing ones.
> 
> Oh, for people mapping remotely, there is a local community in
> Kampala. It's best to leave those schools for them, since they have
> local knowledge about them and since it's harder to figure out which
> buildings belong to the school for those from aerial imagery alone.
> I think that's worthy of a note in the instructions.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Jo
> 
> 2016-01-22 0:06 GMT+01:00 Rafael Avila Coya  >:
> 
> Hi all:
> 
> A new manual import through the Tasking Manager is open for
> experienced mappers, this time for the import of 24,587 educational
> facilities (nurseries, primary and secondary schools,
> colleges...) all
> around Uganda.
> 
> As the total number of nodes is very high, it was decided not to add
> any contextual data as it was done in previous imports, starting
> with
> the Central African Rep. UNICEF import. We will be able to add
> contextual data, like facilities road access, facilities buildings,
> settlement names (derived from the facilities addr:* tags), wikidata
> tags, etc., after the import is finished, or maybe even during the
> import, but with another TM project/s.
> 
> Everyone is welcome to contribute, but specially the Uganda OSM
> community.
> 
> You can find the detailed workflow wiki for this import here [1].
> ***READING AND UNDERSTANDING THAT WIKI IS A MUST***, before you
> start
> importing facilities.
> 
> At the beginning of the workflow wiki you have a Quick Reference, so
> you don't have to read the whole wiki everytime you need to
> recall the
> import steps.
> 
> Keep in mind that changesets that don't follow the rules (negociated
> with the Uganda OSM community and the imports list) will have to be
> reverted. Specially important is to use a dedicated OSM account (not
> the regular account you use for regular mapping), and to add the
> specific changeset tags of this import.
> 
> You should also read the official import wiki [2], specially for
> tagging reference.
> 
> Happy mapping!
> 
> Rafael.
> 
> [1]
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Uganda/Import_Uganda_Bureau_Of_Statistics_Education_Facilities_Workflow
> 
> [2]
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Uganda/Import_Uganda_Bureau_Of_Statistics_Education_Facilities
> 
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Re: [HOT] Uganda Bureau Of Statistics Educational Facilities import has started

[Rafael Avila Coya]

On 22/01/16 20:57, Jo wrote:
> Hi Rafael,
> 
> I understand where the requirement for the separate account is coming
> from, but I will always consider it too much of a hassle to switch. And
> in my case I would be switching continuously.
> 
> So, I'll limit myself to validating the tiles. I hope it's all right to
> add some of the buildings in that stage. I'm also automating the
> creation of wikidata entries and linking from OSM to WD and back.

Yes. Of course it's completely fine to add buildings. Just do that as a
normal mapping (with your regular account). Just write the comment for
the changeset forgetting about the comment "Uganda Bureau Of Statistics
Education Facilities Import, #hotosm-project-1434", use your own
comment, like "Added buildings to several schools, etc.", and
source=Bing or Mapbox or whatever. And likewise for the Wikidata.

> 
> I don't promise that I'll do that for all 24000 of them though.

If you did, we would have to erect a monument in your honour somewhere
in Uganda! :D

Cheers,

Rafael.

> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jo
> 
> 2016-01-22 20:39 GMT+01:00 Rafael Avila Coya  >:
> 
> Hi, Jo:
> 
> Thanks for your comments and help. Find my comments inline:
> 
> On 22/01/16 08:34, Jo wrote:
>> Hi Rafael,
> 
>> Great that you got this started. Of course I managed to get the use
>> of import and not import account mixed up, as JOSM doesn't warn me
>> or give the option to switch in a convenient way. So the imported
>> node will probably have to be removed once again and the buildings
>> I added in a second go, are now uploaded with that silly import
>> account.
> 
> Don't worry. I have reverted that "one node" changeset, and added
> again the school node with my edvac_import account.
> 
> Apart from using your regular account, you uploaded the school without
> the import changesets: source=www.ubos.org 
> (you put source=Bing),
> source:date=2010..2014, import=yes and
> url=https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Uganda/Import_Uganda_Bureau_Of_Statistics_Education_Facilities
> 
> This has happened to other users in the past, so don't worry. Just
> remember to upload only school nodes (nothing else) with your
> Polyglot_import account, adding those changeset tags, and don't forget
> to switch back to your Polyglot regular account, so you don't use your
> import account for this import.
> 
> Having to use a dedicated user account for every import is a
> requirement of the Import guidelines [1]: step 6.5: "You must use a
> dedicated user account."
> 
> I think this requirement should be waived for crowsourced manual
> imports like this, but that is not something we should discuss here,
> but in the imports list. For the time being we have to comply with the
> community agreements we have in the import guidelines.
> 
> This import is ***ONLY*** for school nodes. So we aren't adding
> buildings at this stage. But even if we wanted to add buildings,
> access road, etc, we would have done it in a different changeset, and
> with the ***regular account***, not the ***import account***, because
> buildings and road accesses aren't UBOS data, but derived directly
> from Bing, Mapbox, GPS traces, etc.
> 
> If you can't live without adding school buildings, just make sure you
> do it in a second changeset after uploading the schools, but using
> your regular account.
> 
> 
>> Sorry for the rant, what follows should be more interesting:
> 
>> Anyway, what I'm missing are the isced tags. Also the process
>> seems overly complicated to me. It's easier to skip the "Edit with
>> JOSM' button and go straight to the first "here" link. Then
>> download manually.
> 
> As this import doesn't need to touch any OSM object, except
> educational facilities already present in OSM that may have to be
> merged with the UBOS ones, you can optionally, if you find it better,
> to download OSM data manually after downloading the UBOS data. Only
> make sure you download an area of at least 500+ m around every UBOS
> node, so you make sure you download every OSM educational facilities
> that may have to be merged with UBOS nodes.
> 
> I didn't add the isced:level tags as it would be difficult to add them
> authomatically with the info we had. But we can add them in subsequent
> TM projects, like also the wikidata, etc.
> 
> 
>> To find the new buildings, the filter method works, but Ctrl-f
> 
>> inview new Then tick the box:: 'add toolbar button'
> 
>> is a lot more convenient, with a shiny new button on the task bar.
> 
>> You can also create another button like this with:
> 
>> inview (school | university | kindergarten)
> 
>> if you add "-new" to that, you can easily find all the existing
>> ones.
> 
> This is very nice. As soon as I can (hope before the end of tomorrow),
> I will add it to the workflow wiki. It's a great idea!!
> 
> 
>> Oh, for people mapping remotely, there is a local community in
>> Kampala. It's best to leave those schools 

[HOT] Border Crossing West Africa

[Dale Kunce]

The Red Cross is continuing our work on mapping the border areas of the
Ebola affected countries in West Africa. Today something that came up is
how exactly to tag border crossings. These are vital for humanitarian and
epidemiology. There is a barrier=border_control
 tag but
from my reading of the wiki
 it
doesn't apply to places where there is no fence. Often the borders in West
Africa are a river ferry with an office set back some distance away.

I wanted to see people thoughts about the best way forward to track these
features while still working within OSM conventions.


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Dale Kunce
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