Re: [HOT] Request: Suggestions for improvements to iD OSM Web Editor

[Blake Girardot HOT/OSM]

On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 3:49 PM, Nicholas Doiron
 wrote:
> Related - I've been adding right-to-left language support for iD OSM editor.
> It was already translated to Arabic and Persian/Farsi, but typically sites
> flip their UI, so our main sidebar would appear on the right.
>
> We've got most technical parts done, so now we would much appreciate some
> fluent speakers looking it over. Please get in touch or connect me with
> interested mappers!
>
> Discussion and code here:
> https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/pull/3087
>
> Thanks,
> Nick Doiron



Hi Nick,

Did I say that sounds great already, because it does. Thank you very much!

And thank you for all the additional suggestions from those that have
shared their pain points and ideas for improvements or changes in this
thread and in the past.

Andrew Wiseman (of Wu Tang FOIA fame :) collected them together and we
reviewed how they fit in the existing github issues. Then myself,
Mikel, Andrew and Bryan, the main iD developer,  sat down and went
over them all in detail earlier in the week.

We talked about them from various angles and it went great. There was
a lot of overlap between HOT and iD feature requests in general (which
is what you would expect really) that was already in the works or
planned to be worked on soon.

And for some of the somewhat HOT unique items, we talked about goals
of the item and what things it impacted and what other mechanisms
might address the same needs goals for the item and found some simple
things that already exist and we might just tweak to include some more
specific or general cases. We tried to think of a way to address as
many issues as possible in a reasonable and smart way if we could. And
I think we all came out of the meeting feeling like we had made a lot
of progress toward doing that.

Some things will come out sooner than others, like the imagery layer
switching is already out, But do expect some UI changes to be coming
as well, nothing major, for example a tool bar is coming to the bottom
of the screen, do not tell anyone :)

Thank you for your time Bryan, Mikel and Andrew

Cheers,
Blake



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> On May 16, 2016 9:00 PM, "Blake Girardot HOT/OSM"
>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Everyone!
>>
>> HOT is putting together a list of possible improvements or changes to
>> the default OSM web editor iD that might help improve and ease typical
>> HOT and Missing Maps OSM editing. As part of that process we would
>> like to get ideas from the greater HOT and Missing Maps community.
>>
>> A few things already on the list and near the top of priorities for HOT
>> are:
>>
>> * A building tool that would make drawing squared up (and round)
>> buildings just a few clicks (this is close to being done already)
>>
>> * Customizable presets for typical or special HOT/Missing Maps
>> projects (already in process, but not close to done)
>>
>> * Support for switching between two imagery sources (this is close to
>> being done already)
>>
>> But we would love to hear more ideas and feedback from you about ways
>> that iD could better help support HOT and Missing Maps type of mapping
>> projects as well as very very new OSM mappers that often work on our
>> projects.
>>
>> Please let us know things you think iD might be able to do to help new
>> mappers or mappers that work on HOT / Missing Maps projects.
>>
>> Obviously there is limited development time available so most things
>> will not be done in the short or medium term, but let us see together
>> if there are any quick wins we might be able to identify.
>>
>> Also please share your feedback on things you had problems with or saw
>> other mappers having problems with even if you do not have a
>> suggestion for how to actually address those issues.
>>
>> We will then take all those ideas and working with the iD Github
>> repository issue/feature tracking make some requests to the iD
>> developer. Yes, I said "developer" as in 1 person who does the bulk
>> (not all, but most) of the iD maintenance and development, Bryan
>> Housel. You can imagine he gets pulled in a lot of different
>> directions by the greater OSM community and he has to balance a lot of
>> needs and concerns. But Bryan has always been very open to suggestions
>> and feedback and concerns about the iD editor and that is why it is
>> the great tool it is.
>>
>> The iD OSM Web Editor will always first and foremost be a general OSM
>> editor so some things will just not be possible, but we are quite sure
>> we can find some things that will help HOT/Missing Maps and be of use
>> to the greater OSM mapping community as well. Our goal is to identify
>> those things and help get them implemented through feedback and
>> testing and maybe even some code contributions if 

Re: [HOT] iD news: v1.9.5 released

[Blake Girardot HOT/OSM]

Hi Bryan,

Some cool ones in the list. Thank you very much.

Cheers,
Blake

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On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Bryan Housel  wrote:
> iD v1.9.5 was released May 25 2016 and is now available for editing on
> openstreetmap.org
>
> The release includes:
> - Fix bug causing Russian track type translated strings to sneak into tag
> values
> - Change color of save button as user edits increase (built by tanerochris)
> - Spacebar can now be used to click for faster drawing (built by
> brandonreavis)
> - Localized phone number placeholder (built by dobratzp)
> - Command-B / Control-B will switch to recently used Background imagery
> (built by RoPP)
> - Fix bug causing greedy autocompletion of dropdown control (built by Kushan
> Joshi)
> - More presets, bug fixes, usability improvements
>
> Many thanks to everyone who contributed to this release!  I’m really excited
> about how many people are contributing to iD these days.
>
> Changelog: https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md#195
> Twitter:   https://twitter.com/bhousel/status/735468105435119616
>
>
> Thanks,
> Bryan
>
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Re: [HOT] Terrapattern: query-by-example for satellite imagery

[Alan McConchie]

There's at least one problem with using Terrapattern as-is: it's using Google 
imagery, so therefore anything you derive from Terrapattern wouldn't be 
license-compatible with OSM.

Now, if they hooked it up to Mapbox Satellite...
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Re: [HOT] Terrapattern: query-by-example for satellite imagery

[Hakuch]

On 26.05.2016 17:40, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM wrote:
> This discussion leads to a lot of potential ideas.
>
> they mention OSM in text, but it was not clear to me how OSM data was
involved.

"We trained a 34-layer DCNN using hundreds of thousands of satellite
images labeled in OpenStreetMap, teaching the neural network to predict
the category of a place from a satellite photo."

the osm data was just to connect the image to actual data, so their
software could learn how an airport normally looks like

(sorry, I sent email not to list by mistake)


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Re: [HOT] Terrapattern: query-by-example for satellite imagery

[Blake Girardot HOT/OSM]

The about page is long, but well worth a full read to the end:

http://www.terrapattern.com/about

OSM data played a real role in the project, and that means everyone
here played a real role.

It is intended as a humanitarian project and seems to touch on a lot
of the issues humanitarian response and mapping faces on a regular
basis. It is pretty nice it is all open source. I am sure OSM and HOT
will be reaching out to them to see how we can all work better
together.

The Knight Foundation sponsored it in part, they support the most
amazing projects.

Please feel free to keep sharing ideas after reading their about page.

Thank you martind for putting the link in IRC and email :)

Regards
Blake


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On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 5:09 PM, joost schouppe
 wrote:
> It is not, at least not at this time. For example, I tried finding airports
> by clicking on a plane. It returns some planes and a lot of asphalt. It
> might however be useful to quickly identify a very rough outline of built up
> land or roads. In my case: airports did show up as hotspots. So it might be
> useful to direct mapping activity.
>
> 2016-05-26 16:51 GMT+02:00 Paul Uithol :
>>
>> That sounds quite interesting - I'm wondering if it could be accurate
>> enough to use as a tool for automatically tracing/classifying/tagging
>> features based on imagery in some scenarios? I imagine the error rate would
>> be quite a lot higher than with proper mapping, but in some situations
>> having a fast initial assessment (before focusing on accuracy) is useful?
>>
>>
>> On 26-05-2016 12:57, Martin Dittus wrote:
>>
>> Made the rounds on social media yesterday, I imagine a few of you have
>> already seen it.
>> http://www.terrapattern.com/
>>
>> It’s a visual search for aerial imagery — "a prototype for helping people
>> quickly scan extremely large geographical areas for specific visual
>> features”. You mark a desired feature, it finds all other occurrences.
>>
>> Their case studies mention OSM as a source data set, but they don’t yet
>> appear to be talking to anyone at HOT? "Terrapattern was only possible due
>> to the astonishing crowdsourced mapping effort of the OpenStreetMap project,
>> which has generously categorized large parts of the world with its Nominatim
>> taxonomy”.
>>
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Re: [HOT] Terrapattern: query-by-example for satellite imagery

[Blake Girardot HOT/OSM]

This discussion leads to a lot of potential ideas.

they mention OSM in text, but it was not clear to me how OSM data was involved.

About the only feature I can think of is airports, but I could almost
see it using the current tagged airports or helipads (real heli pads,
with an H) as examples to then search a much much larger area for
similar features to review.

At the very least it would be sweet if it could use the osm data to
remote control to josm to look at those example areas and all the
matching areas it found.

or just highlight some tight rectangles or circle around the aerial
imagery of examples of a thing to search for  (heli pads for example)
and let it find everything like that, click, josm to review

I am sure I am not explaining that very well.

Probably not possible to search for radio or transmission towers or
masts, but it would very impressive if it did with a high accuracy.

Regards,
Blake


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On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 5:09 PM, joost schouppe
 wrote:
> It is not, at least not at this time. For example, I tried finding airports
> by clicking on a plane. It returns some planes and a lot of asphalt. It
> might however be useful to quickly identify a very rough outline of built up
> land or roads. In my case: airports did show up as hotspots. So it might be
> useful to direct mapping activity.
>
> 2016-05-26 16:51 GMT+02:00 Paul Uithol :
>>
>> That sounds quite interesting - I'm wondering if it could be accurate
>> enough to use as a tool for automatically tracing/classifying/tagging
>> features based on imagery in some scenarios? I imagine the error rate would
>> be quite a lot higher than with proper mapping, but in some situations
>> having a fast initial assessment (before focusing on accuracy) is useful?
>>
>>
>> On 26-05-2016 12:57, Martin Dittus wrote:
>>
>> Made the rounds on social media yesterday, I imagine a few of you have
>> already seen it.
>> http://www.terrapattern.com/
>>
>> It’s a visual search for aerial imagery — "a prototype for helping people
>> quickly scan extremely large geographical areas for specific visual
>> features”. You mark a desired feature, it finds all other occurrences.
>>
>> Their case studies mention OSM as a source data set, but they don’t yet
>> appear to be talking to anyone at HOT? "Terrapattern was only possible due
>> to the astonishing crowdsourced mapping effort of the OpenStreetMap project,
>> which has generously categorized large parts of the world with its Nominatim
>> taxonomy”.
>>
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Re: [HOT] Terrapattern: query-by-example for satellite imagery

[joost schouppe]

It is not, at least not at this time. For example, I tried finding airports
by clicking on a plane. It returns some planes and a lot of asphalt. It
might however be useful to quickly identify a very rough outline of built
up land or roads. In my case: airports did show up as hotspots. So it might
be useful to direct mapping activity.

2016-05-26 16:51 GMT+02:00 Paul Uithol :

> That sounds quite interesting - I'm wondering if it could be accurate
> enough to use as a tool for automatically tracing/classifying/tagging
> features based on imagery in some scenarios? I imagine the error rate would
> be quite a lot higher than with proper mapping, but in some situations
> having a fast initial assessment (before focusing on accuracy) is useful?
>
>
> On 26-05-2016 12:57, Martin Dittus wrote:
>
> Made the rounds on social media yesterday, I imagine a few of you have 
> already seen it.http://www.terrapattern.com/
>
> It’s a visual search for aerial imagery — "a prototype for helping people 
> quickly scan extremely large geographical areas for specific visual 
> features”. You mark a desired feature, it finds all other occurrences.
>
> Their case studies mention OSM as a source data set, but they don’t yet 
> appear to be talking to anyone at HOT? "Terrapattern was only possible due to 
> the astonishing crowdsourced mapping effort of the OpenStreetMap project, 
> which has generously categorized large parts of the world with its Nominatim 
> taxonomy”.
>
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