Re: [HOT] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-10 Thread Jiri Vlasak
For the ones who are interested in the whole discussion:

- talk mailing list archive:

- https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2020-December/085736.html

- osmf-talk mailing list archive:

- 
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2020-December/007541.html
- 
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2020-December/007523.html
- 
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2020-December/007530.html

Links to archived messages in Dec 2020:

- https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2020-December/thread.html
- https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2020-December/thread.html

jiri

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Re: [HOT] Mike's JOSM-Scripts merged to the Mapathoner JOSM plugin

2020-11-23 Thread Jiri Vlasak
Hello,

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 03:25:39PM +0100, Frans Schutz wrote:
> Hi
> What went wrong?
> On the scripting tag I miss now  the  commands
> SelectNonortogonalbuildings.js
> 
> Selectduplicate.js
> Which are very handy to select all non squared or duplicated buildings

if it's about JOSM-Scripts, there is no changes. Please, check out your
scripting plugin and the directory where the scripts are stored.

> Under the tab Matathoner I only see the commands for mapping buildings in a
> batch
> 
> The commands for finding non squared and duplicated buildings are important
> and most used by validators !

This is about the Mapathoner plugin. You *must* run the newest tested JOSM
version (17329). Then it works.

jiri

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[HOT] Mike's JOSM-Scripts merged to the Mapathoner JOSM plugin

2020-11-22 Thread Jiri Vlasak
Dear humanitarian mappers,

with kind help of Mike, I merged Mike's JOSM-Scripts [1] into the Mapathoner
JOSM plugin [2].

It means that you may *select duplicate buildings* and *select non orthogonal
buildings* [3] directly from the JOSM menu when the *mapathoner* plugin is
installed.

If you have any questions, suggestions, or ideas, feel free to contribute to
the (new) mapathoner mailing list:

https://lists.sr.ht/~qeef/mapathoner

Have a nice day,
jiri

[1]: https://github.com/MikeTho16/JOSM-Scripts
[2]: https://qeef.gitlab.io/mapathoner/
[3]: https://qeef.gitlab.io/mapathoner/usage/#select-duplicate-buildings

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Re: [HOT] JOSM plugin / Replace geometry

2020-04-29 Thread Jiri Vlasak
Hi,

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 06:57:19PM +0100, Claire Halleux wrote:
> Hi,
> If there is anyone around with any interest in building a JOSM plugin
> similar to "Replace geometry" but which would work on groups of buildings,

what about contributing to UtilsPlugin2 and extend it, instead of creating new
plugin?

jiri

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Re: [HOT] damage as a tag - not docu,

2020-02-06 Thread Jiri Vlasak
On Thu, Feb 06, 2020 at 11:33:24AM +, Donal Hunt wrote:
> I would agree with the view that such statuses should be managed outside of
> the OSM datastore. Organisations with interest of doing this may already be
> using products that rely on GIS data from various sources.
> 
> For those designing apps, they can track things like damage, repairs, etc
> and tie that meta data to a OSM node / way / relation ID.
> 
> Is there an existing policy regarding data types that should not be added
> to OSM but tracked separately? Are there tools to support teams needing to
> so this?

Maybe Key:wikidata [1] and Key:wikipedia [2] could do the job?

[1]: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:wikidata
[2]: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:wikipedia

jiri

> Donal
> 
> On Thu, 6 Feb 2020, 10:06 Russell Deffner, 
> wrote:
> 
> > Just a quick note; HOT does not formally do damage tagging, mainly because
> > no tagging schema exists. In the past, members of HOT tried various tagging
> > but results for remote damage assessment were poor.
> >
> > I personally would be glad to see a community driven tagging schema
> > developed but if not we (HOT) will need to document what we come up with
> > for usage in disaster response and recovery.
> >
> > One glaring issue has been that typically the tags persist much longer
> > than the damage.
> >
> > =Russ
> >
> > > On Feb 6, 2020, at 12:49 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi.
> > >
> > > It looks like HOT is using the tag 'damage' for something. It is not
> > documented as to what it means. Further is this information kept current or
> > just added and forgotten? In at least one case the tag goes back to 2011.
> > >
> > >
> > > When will HOT start to document what tags they are using, and what they
> > are used for on the OSM wiki? This is not good behavior for HOT in OSM.
> > >
> > >
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[HOT] Divide and map. Now.

2020-01-01 Thread Jiri Vlasak
Dear OpenStreetMap and HOT community,

I would like to announce **Divide and map. Now.** -- the damn project.

I like the idea of the HOT Tasking Manager, but I think that there are too many
bad decisions during development. I tried to summarize the critique in the
diary [1].

Because I like a constructive critique, there is an example of how it could
look like -- the damn project [2].

The damn project is proof of concept. It suffers from performance and more
issues, but I wanted to share it anyway.

[1]: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/qeef/diary/391778
[2]: https://www.damn-project.org/

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Re: [HOT] HOT Tech Announcements

2019-10-22 Thread Jiri Vlasak
Hi Felix,

On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 02:29:28PM +, Felix Delattre wrote:
> Hi Donal, Jiri and all,
> 
> Yes, it wasn't clear to me who was able to join or not the Google Groups.
> After playing around with the settings a bit more, now it seems we can
> offer a mailing list with a public record and allow more people to join the
> group directly:
> 
> * TM User Group:
> https://groups.google.com/a/hotosm.org/forum/#!forum/tasking-manager-users
> * TM Dev Group:
> https://groups.google.com/a/hotosm.org/forum/#!forum/tasking-manager-dev
> 
> In addition we've published a quick overview of all options on joining the
> Tasking Manager development here:
> https://github.com/hotosm/tasking-manager/blob/develop/docs/working-groups.md
> 
> I hope I was able to clarify and improve on all points raised here.

Looks good now. Thanks.

jiri

> Have a great day,
> Felix
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 1:26 PM Donal Hunt  wrote:
> 
> > Joining via email works for external users. Not clear if that is as a
> > result of changes by the HOT admins or that different ACLs are at play.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 14:24, Donal Hunt  wrote:
> >
> >> Note: Regarding the google group - HOT likely have the index of mailing
> >> list restricted (common for most organisations) so external users will not
> >> be able to subscribe directly via the web interface (I suspect email may
> >> result in the same deadend but I haven't validated the ACLs there). This is
> >> likely why email addresses were being gathered through a form - they need
> >> to be manually add to the group by the group owner / moderator. Purely a
> >> case of a design decision Google have made around their G Suite product. :/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 06:33, Felix Delattre 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dear Jiri,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On October 15, 2019 10:59:27 PM GMT+02:00, Jiri Vlasak <
> >>> jiri.huba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >I feel
> >>> >sorry, but I am not interested in contributing to something closed,
> >>> >without
> >>> >public history.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for the feedback!
> >>>
> >>> The Tasking Manager is free and open (source) and its development is
> >>> completely transparent, with a public history and actively seeking
> >>> collaboration through Github.
> >>>
> >>> Of course everybody is free to decide, whether to follow the invitation
> >>> to the TM groups or not! It is unfortunate that it doesn't fulfill your
> >>> criteria. I can understand your concerns and probably it is best for you 
> >>> to
> >>> participate through our Github repository, you seem to be well familiar
> >>> with and everything is kept in a public history.
> >>>
> >>> The groups are an additional offer for people who don't feel very
> >>> comfortable with Github and still want to give us input. It is an
> >>> opportunity for us to connect with the users of the TM. We also figured 
> >>> out
> >>> that sometimes it is good to talk in person, or over voice and video (we
> >>> also don't record these meetings).
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>> Felix
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Sent from my phone;  if there are typos I will still be quite annoyed at
> >>> myself.
> >>>
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> >>
> 
> -- 
> 
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> felix.delat...@hotosm.org
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Re: [HOT] HOT Tech Announcements

2019-10-15 Thread Jiri Vlasak
Dear Felix,

> > >- We are opening up a (power) User Group for the Tasking Manager. If
> > you
> > >want to shape the Software and participate in the conversation about
> > its
> > >direction, please join the group, it's mailing list and regular
> > meetings:
> > >https://bit.ly/tm-user-group
> >
> > I am interestend in but not willing to login with Google form. Please,
> > provide
> > direct links to mailing list @openstreetmap.org and probably link to wiki
> > or
> > github with regular meetings.
> >
> 
> The mailing list in a Google group, and the form we set up (
> https://bit.ly/tm-user-group) is to make subscription as easy as possible.
> 
> Alternatively you register yourself yourself by:
> - either sign-up directly - your must be logged in with your gmail.com
> account:
> https://groups.google.com/a/hotosm.org/forum/#!forum/tasking-manager-users
> - or write an email from any kind of email address to tasking-manager-users+
> subscr...@hotosm.org in order to subscribe yourself directly.

When I click that link to googlegroup, I obtain the "This group either doesn't
exist, or you don't have permission to access it." error. The same applies for
groups at https://groups.google.com/a/hotosm.org/forum/#!forumsearch/. I feel
sorry, but I am not interested in contributing to something closed, without
public history.

> > >- As before, all people interested in the technical aspects and
> > >development are welcome to join the Tasking Manager Development Group
> > email
> > >list and regular meetings: https://bit.ly/tm-dev-group
> >
> > I am interested here also. Why the github is not enough? What is the link
> > without the Google form?
> >
> 
> Github is an excellent base for collaboration and it might be enough for
> you. In the past we felt like we need some more communication between the
> people working on the Tasking Manager: and we set up regular video calls,
> to talk through things in person. Among other topics, we announce these
> meetings on this email lists.
> 
> The alternative subscription channels for the TM Development Group are:
> - either sign-up directly - your must be logged in with your gmail.com
> account:
> https://groups.google.com/a/hotosm.org/forum/#!forum/tasking-manager-dev
> - or write an email from any kind of email address to tasking-manager-dev+
> subscr...@hotosm.org in order to subscribe yourself directly.

The same applies here, the group does not exist, or I don't have permission.
Maybe I just get it wrong. Is there anywhere some publicly available history of
these mailing lists?

Thanks,
jiri

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Re: [HOT] HOT Tech Announcements

2019-10-15 Thread Jiri Vlasak
Dear Felix,

>- We are opening up a (power) User Group for the Tasking Manager. If you
>want to shape the Software and participate in the conversation about its
>direction, please join the group, it's mailing list and regular meetings:
>https://bit.ly/tm-user-group

I am interestend in but not willing to login with Google form. Please, provide
direct links to mailing list @openstreetmap.org and probably link to wiki or
github with regular meetings.

>- As before, all people interested in the technical aspects and
>development are welcome to join the Tasking Manager Development Group email
>list and regular meetings: https://bit.ly/tm-dev-group

I am interested here also. Why the github is not enough? What is the link
without the Google form?

Thanks,
jiri

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