[HOT] Mapping in Dhaka, Bangladesh!

[Jorieke Vyncke]

Hi HOT mappers!

Next week HOT will start mapping "in the field" again! Under the umbrella
of the Missing Maps Project we will map some neighbourhoods of Dhaka, the
capital of Bangladesh.

We have mobilized the local Bangladeshi OSM community and they are ready to
collect local points of interest, names, ... Pete Masters (as coordinator
of the Missing Maps Project) and I are going to support the local OSM-ers.

The local community is mapping already, but the help of the worldwide
mapping community is welcome to help to prepare the field survey. Last week
there was a mapping party in London, and they did a great job, but there is
still more work to be done...

It would be great to have a (rough) basemap of Hazaribagh
and
Kamrangirchar

by
next saturday. The areas are two very vulnerable neigbourhoods in Dhaka
where a lot of ngos are active.

So for this we count on your joint forces!

Mapping tasks:
- http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/838
- http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/831

Validation task:
- http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/833

But watch out, these are not easy tasks, because the areas are so crowded.
I made a small presentation on how you best can map the areas. You can find
it back in the instructions of each task.

Looking foreward to see the tasks moving :-)

Best greetings!

Jorieke
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Re: [HOT] Mapping in Dhaka, Bangladesh!

[john whelan]

How does one access the Next View imagery in JOSM?

Thanks John

On 12 January 2015 at 18:10, Jorieke Vyncke 
wrote:

> Hi HOT mappers!
>
> Next week HOT will start mapping "in the field" again! Under the umbrella
> of the Missing Maps Project we will map some neighbourhoods of Dhaka, the
> capital of Bangladesh.
>
> We have mobilized the local Bangladeshi OSM community and they are ready
> to collect local points of interest, names, ... Pete Masters (as
> coordinator of the Missing Maps Project) and I are going to support the
> local OSM-ers.
>
> The local community is mapping already, but the help of the worldwide
> mapping community is welcome to help to prepare the field survey. Last week
> there was a mapping party in London, and they did a great job, but there is
> still more work to be done...
>
> It would be great to have a (rough) basemap of Hazaribagh
> and
> Kamrangirchar
> 
>  by
> next saturday. The areas are two very vulnerable neigbourhoods in Dhaka
> where a lot of ngos are active.
>
> So for this we count on your joint forces!
>
> Mapping tasks:
> - http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/838
> - http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/831
>
> Validation task:
> - http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/833
>
> But watch out, these are not easy tasks, because the areas are so crowded.
> I made a small presentation on how you best can map the areas. You can find
> it back in the instructions of each task.
>
> Looking foreward to see the tasks moving :-)
>
> Best greetings!
>
> Jorieke
>
>
>
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Re: [HOT] Mapping in Dhaka, Bangladesh!

[Blake Girardot]

Hi John,

I found the TMS url in iD (Background tab, click on the custom entry) 
and then added it to JOSM imagery preferences.


This is the url:

http://hiu-maps.net/hot/1.0.0/dhaka-23oct2014-flipped/{z}/{x}/{y}.png

However, it is odd that it doesn't load automatically in JOSM like it 
does in iD.


Cheers,
Blake



On 1/13/2015 12:23 AM, john whelan wrote:

How does one access the Next View imagery in JOSM?

Thanks John

On 12 January 2015 at 18:10, Jorieke Vyncke mailto:jorieke.vyn...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi HOT mappers!

Next week HOT will start mapping "in the field" again! Under the
umbrella of the Missing Maps Project we will map some neighbourhoods
of Dhaka, the capital of Bangladesh.

We have mobilized the local Bangladeshi OSM community and they are
ready to collect local points of interest, names, ... Pete Masters
(as coordinator of the Missing Maps Project) and I are going to
support the local OSM-ers.

The local community is mapping already, but the help of the
worldwide mapping community is welcome to help to prepare the field
survey. Last week there was a mapping party in London, and they did
a great job, but there is still more work to be done...

It would be great to have a (rough) basemap of Hazaribagh

and
Kamrangirchar


 by
next saturday. The areas are two very vulnerable neigbourhoods in
Dhaka where a lot of ngos are active.

So for this we count on your joint forces!

Mapping tasks:
- http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/838
- http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/831

Validation task:
- http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/833

But watch out, these are not easy tasks, because the areas are so
crowded. I made a small presentation on how you best can map the
areas. You can find it back in the instructions of each task.

Looking foreward to see the tasks moving :-)

Best greetings!

Jorieke



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Re: [HOT] Mapping in Dhaka, Bangladesh!

[Blake Girardot]

Oh, I see it is listed in the instructions as well, sorry about that.

To use it in JOSM:

0. Copy the imagery URL from iD or from the directions on the task

http://hiu-maps.net/hot/1.0.0/dhaka-23oct2014-flipped/{z}/{x}/{y}.png

1. In JOSM go to Imagery Menu -> Imagery Preferences
2. Click on the +TMS button on the right of the bottom list of imagery 
sources
3. Paste the URL into the first field, it should auto fill in the 3rd 
field as well.

4. Leave the 2nd field blank
5. Give it a name in the 4th field
6. Click ok on the +TMS dialog, click ok on the Imagery Preferences

Then it will appear with the name you gave it in the JOSM Imagery Menu

Cheers,
Blake




On 1/13/2015 12:23 AM, john whelan wrote:

How does one access the Next View imagery in JOSM?

Thanks John

On 12 January 2015 at 18:10, Jorieke Vyncke mailto:jorieke.vyn...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi HOT mappers!

Next week HOT will start mapping "in the field" again! Under the
umbrella of the Missing Maps Project we will map some neighbourhoods
of Dhaka, the capital of Bangladesh.

We have mobilized the local Bangladeshi OSM community and they are
ready to collect local points of interest, names, ... Pete Masters
(as coordinator of the Missing Maps Project) and I are going to
support the local OSM-ers.

The local community is mapping already, but the help of the
worldwide mapping community is welcome to help to prepare the field
survey. Last week there was a mapping party in London, and they did
a great job, but there is still more work to be done...

It would be great to have a (rough) basemap of Hazaribagh

and
Kamrangirchar


 by
next saturday. The areas are two very vulnerable neigbourhoods in
Dhaka where a lot of ngos are active.

So for this we count on your joint forces!

Mapping tasks:
- http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/838
- http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/831

Validation task:
- http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/833

But watch out, these are not easy tasks, because the areas are so
crowded. I made a small presentation on how you best can map the
areas. You can find it back in the instructions of each task.

Looking foreward to see the tasks moving :-)

Best greetings!

Jorieke



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Re: [HOT] Mapping in Dhaka, Bangladesh!

[john whelan]

There seems to be an alignment problem, the Bing imagery doesn't exactly
match the Next View imagery.

Cheerio John

On 12 January 2015 at 18:10, Jorieke Vyncke 
wrote:

> Hi HOT mappers!
>
> Next week HOT will start mapping "in the field" again! Under the umbrella
> of the Missing Maps Project we will map some neighbourhoods of Dhaka, the
> capital of Bangladesh.
>
> We have mobilized the local Bangladeshi OSM community and they are ready
> to collect local points of interest, names, ... Pete Masters (as
> coordinator of the Missing Maps Project) and I are going to support the
> local OSM-ers.
>
> The local community is mapping already, but the help of the worldwide
> mapping community is welcome to help to prepare the field survey. Last week
> there was a mapping party in London, and they did a great job, but there is
> still more work to be done...
>
> It would be great to have a (rough) basemap of Hazaribagh
> and
> Kamrangirchar
> 
>  by
> next saturday. The areas are two very vulnerable neigbourhoods in Dhaka
> where a lot of ngos are active.
>
> So for this we count on your joint forces!
>
> Mapping tasks:
> - http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/838
> - http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/831
>
> Validation task:
> - http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/833
>
> But watch out, these are not easy tasks, because the areas are so crowded.
> I made a small presentation on how you best can map the areas. You can find
> it back in the instructions of each task.
>
> Looking foreward to see the tasks moving :-)
>
> Best greetings!
>
> Jorieke
>
>
>
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Re: [HOT] Mapping in Dhaka, Bangladesh!

[Blake Girardot]

On 1/13/2015 2:57 AM, john whelan wrote:

> There seems to be an alignment problem, the Bing imagery doesn't exactly
> match the Next View imagery.


Jorieke might have a different opinion and his is the authority :) but 
it looks to me like the new nextview imagery is better aligned than 
bing. I would use it as the main georeference. In addition most things 
will be mapped with Nextview so might as well keep them all consistent.


How did I come to the NextView is better aligned conclusion?

visit this spot in JOSM:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/23.750183/90.368716

And load the bing, nextview and "OpenStreetMap GPS Traces" (JOSM Imagery 
Preferences again, select up top, use the arrow in the middle to move it 
to the bottom list)


It is a divided street, you will see Bing has traces going off the side 
of the road and down the middle of the trees on the divider, the 
nextview imagery has the traces nicely on each side of the divider on 
the streets.


Hence, to me it looks like the nextview is better aligned.

Again, Jorieke would be the authority.

Hope that helps.

cheers,
Blake






Cheerio John

On 12 January 2015 at 18:10, Jorieke Vyncke mailto:jorieke.vyn...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi HOT mappers!

Next week HOT will start mapping "in the field" again! Under the
umbrella of the Missing Maps Project we will map some neighbourhoods
of Dhaka, the capital of Bangladesh.

We have mobilized the local Bangladeshi OSM community and they are
ready to collect local points of interest, names, ... Pete Masters
(as coordinator of the Missing Maps Project) and I are going to
support the local OSM-ers.

The local community is mapping already, but the help of the
worldwide mapping community is welcome to help to prepare the field
survey. Last week there was a mapping party in London, and they did
a great job, but there is still more work to be done...

It would be great to have a (rough) basemap of Hazaribagh

and
Kamrangirchar


 by
next saturday. The areas are two very vulnerable neigbourhoods in
Dhaka where a lot of ngos are active.

So for this we count on your joint forces!

Mapping tasks:
- http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/838
- http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/831

Validation task:
- http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/833

But watch out, these are not easy tasks, because the areas are so
crowded. I made a small presentation on how you best can map the
areas. You can find it back in the instructions of each task.

Looking foreward to see the tasks moving :-)

Best greetings!

Jorieke



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Re: [HOT] Mapping in Dhaka, Bangladesh!

[john whelan]

I just raise issues, this one looks challenging to say the least.

Thanks John

On 12 January 2015 at 21:15, Blake Girardot  wrote:

>
> On 1/13/2015 2:57 AM, john whelan wrote:
>
> > There seems to be an alignment problem, the Bing imagery doesn't exactly
> > match the Next View imagery.
>
>
> Jorieke might have a different opinion and his is the authority :) but it
> looks to me like the new nextview imagery is better aligned than bing. I
> would use it as the main georeference. In addition most things will be
> mapped with Nextview so might as well keep them all consistent.
>
> How did I come to the NextView is better aligned conclusion?
>
> visit this spot in JOSM:
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/23.750183/90.368716
>
> And load the bing, nextview and "OpenStreetMap GPS Traces" (JOSM Imagery
> Preferences again, select up top, use the arrow in the middle to move it to
> the bottom list)
>
> It is a divided street, you will see Bing has traces going off the side of
> the road and down the middle of the trees on the divider, the nextview
> imagery has the traces nicely on each side of the divider on the streets.
>
> Hence, to me it looks like the nextview is better aligned.
>
> Again, Jorieke would be the authority.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> cheers,
> Blake
>
>
>
>
>
>> Cheerio John
>>
>> On 12 January 2015 at 18:10, Jorieke Vyncke > > wrote:
>>
>> Hi HOT mappers!
>>
>> Next week HOT will start mapping "in the field" again! Under the
>> umbrella of the Missing Maps Project we will map some neighbourhoods
>> of Dhaka, the capital of Bangladesh.
>>
>> We have mobilized the local Bangladeshi OSM community and they are
>> ready to collect local points of interest, names, ... Pete Masters
>> (as coordinator of the Missing Maps Project) and I are going to
>> support the local OSM-ers.
>>
>> The local community is mapping already, but the help of the
>> worldwide mapping community is welcome to help to prepare the field
>> survey. Last week there was a mapping party in London, and they did
>> a great job, but there is still more work to be done...
>>
>> It would be great to have a (rough) basemap of Hazaribagh
>> > lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=41G0VMitMNLraNy5gJgB&ved=
>> 0CAkQ_AUoAg&biw=1242&bih=585#tbm=isch&q=Hazaribagh+dhaka>and
>> Kamrangirchar
>> > lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=41G0VMitMNLraNy5gJgB&ved=
>> 0CAkQ_AUoAg&biw=1242&bih=585#tbm=isch&q=Kamrangirchar+dhaka> by
>> next saturday. The areas are two very vulnerable neigbourhoods in
>> Dhaka where a lot of ngos are active.
>>
>> So for this we count on your joint forces!
>>
>> Mapping tasks:
>> - http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/838
>> - http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/831
>>
>> Validation task:
>> - http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/833
>>
>> But watch out, these are not easy tasks, because the areas are so
>> crowded. I made a small presentation on how you best can map the
>> areas. You can find it back in the instructions of each task.
>>
>> Looking foreward to see the tasks moving :-)
>>
>> Best greetings!
>>
>> Jorieke
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [HOT] Mapping in Dhaka, Bangladesh!

[Jorieke Vyncke]

Hi John, Blake and all,

Looks like you managed to open the imagery?
Thank you Blake for the clarifications! I do follow you also completely, in
my view the Nextview is indeed better aligned.

We will make sure to upload some more traces as soon as possible.
Travelling today and tomorrow, so thursday and friday you can expect some
traces.

Thanks a lot for the mapping but also for the validation, important task!

Best greetings,
Jorieke
Op 13-jan.-2015 03:38 schreef "john whelan" :

> HOT task 838 seems to have quite a few buildings tagged area=yes rather
> than buildings.  I've been in and marked a few roads and a few other things
> but I think I'll stand back and let other specialists do the rest, my eye
> sight isn't good enough.
>
> Good Luck
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 12 January 2015 at 18:10, Jorieke Vyncke 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi HOT mappers!
>>
>> Next week HOT will start mapping "in the field" again! Under the umbrella
>> of the Missing Maps Project we will map some neighbourhoods of Dhaka, the
>> capital of Bangladesh.
>>
>> We have mobilized the local Bangladeshi OSM community and they are ready
>> to collect local points of interest, names, ... Pete Masters (as
>> coordinator of the Missing Maps Project) and I are going to support the
>> local OSM-ers.
>>
>> The local community is mapping already, but the help of the worldwide
>> mapping community is welcome to help to prepare the field survey. Last week
>> there was a mapping party in London, and they did a great job, but there is
>> still more work to be done...
>>
>> It would be great to have a (rough) basemap of Hazaribagh
>> and
>> Kamrangirchar
>> 
>>  by
>> next saturday. The areas are two very vulnerable neigbourhoods in Dhaka
>> where a lot of ngos are active.
>>
>> So for this we count on your joint forces!
>>
>> Mapping tasks:
>> - http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/838
>> - http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/831
>>
>> Validation task:
>> - http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/833
>>
>> But watch out, these are not easy tasks, because the areas are so
>> crowded. I made a small presentation on how you best can map the areas. You
>> can find it back in the instructions of each task.
>>
>> Looking foreward to see the tasks moving :-)
>>
>> Best greetings!
>>
>> Jorieke
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [HOT] Mapping in Dhaka, Bangladesh!

[Bouke Pieter Ottow]

Hi Jorieke,

Thanks for adding the powerpoint slides with examples. But I have one
question; can you mention the tags you want with the features?
For high (appartment)buildings I assume building=yes?
Trees: natural=tree?
But how to do an open area? area=yes?

Cheers,
Bouke Pieter


On Tue Jan 13 2015 at 9:38:23 AM Jorieke Vyncke 
wrote:

> Hi John, Blake and all,
>
> Looks like you managed to open the imagery?
> Thank you Blake for the clarifications! I do follow you also completely,
> in my view the Nextview is indeed better aligned.
>
> We will make sure to upload some more traces as soon as possible.
> Travelling today and tomorrow, so thursday and friday you can expect some
> traces.
>
> Thanks a lot for the mapping but also for the validation, important task!
>
> Best greetings,
> Jorieke
> Op 13-jan.-2015 03:38 schreef "john whelan" :
>
>> HOT task 838 seems to have quite a few buildings tagged area=yes rather
>> than buildings.  I've been in and marked a few roads and a few other things
>> but I think I'll stand back and let other specialists do the rest, my eye
>> sight isn't good enough.
>>
>> Good Luck
>>
>> Cheerio John
>>
>
>> On 12 January 2015 at 18:10, Jorieke Vyncke 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi HOT mappers!
>>>
>>> Next week HOT will start mapping "in the field" again! Under the
>>> umbrella of the Missing Maps Project we will map some neighbourhoods of
>>> Dhaka, the capital of Bangladesh.
>>>
>>> We have mobilized the local Bangladeshi OSM community and they are ready
>>> to collect local points of interest, names, ... Pete Masters (as
>>> coordinator of the Missing Maps Project) and I are going to support the
>>> local OSM-ers.
>>>
>>> The local community is mapping already, but the help of the worldwide
>>> mapping community is welcome to help to prepare the field survey. Last week
>>> there was a mapping party in London, and they did a great job, but there is
>>> still more work to be done...
>>>
>>> It would be great to have a (rough) basemap of Hazaribagh
>>> and
>>> Kamrangirchar
>>> 
>>>  by
>>> next saturday. The areas are two very vulnerable neigbourhoods in Dhaka
>>> where a lot of ngos are active.
>>>
>>> So for this we count on your joint forces!
>>>
>>> Mapping tasks:
>>> - http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/838
>>> - http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/831
>>>
>>> Validation task:
>>> - http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/833
>>>
>>> But watch out, these are not easy tasks, because the areas are so
>>> crowded. I made a small presentation on how you best can map the areas. You
>>> can find it back in the instructions of each task.
>>>
>>> Looking foreward to see the tasks moving :-)
>>>
>>> Best greetings!
>>>
>>> Jorieke
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [HOT] Mapping in Dhaka, Bangladesh!

[althio althio]

Hi Bouke Pieter,

I will try to answer and Jorieke may refine later on.

> For high (appartment)buildings I assume building=yes?

OK.
From the instructions tab: map landmarks, large buildings, not small ones
[tags]
building=yes for rectangular & round buildings - trace the building outline
building=construction for walls without a roof
[note: I assume more refinement are possible as in
building=residential or building=apartments but this is hard to tell
from imagery and not requested in this project]
[note 2: To Jorieke; maybe request additional tag for large buildings
otherwise they will not stand out if small buildings are ever traced.
Maybe height=* or building:levels=* even if it is approximate. Anyway
I think this is valid for any mapping: building=yes/residential +
building:levels=6..8..10..12 + source:building:levels=estimate from
imagery]
[note 3: sometimes in other project, building=construction is not
encouraged because construction seen in imagery may well be finished
by now. So follow instructions project by project]


> Trees: natural=tree?

OK.
from the powerpoint: map BIG trees (because they are landmarks,
significant tree)
[tags]
natural=tree [I assume]


> But how to do an open area? area=yes?

No.
from the powerpoint: map open spaces
[tags]
leisure=common [I assume, as usual practice for HOT]

Cheers

althio

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Re: [HOT] Mapping in Dhaka, Bangladesh!

[Jorieke Vyncke]

Hi everybody,

First of all thanks a lot for mapping in the Bangladesh tasks! It will be
of great help!

And indeed, I should have made it clearer in the presentation. I'll try to
do a review tomorrow.
In big follow the instructions of althio:

for appartment and other large buildings --> * building=yes*
for big individual trees which serve as landmark  -->  *natural=tree*
but also bushes and a bunch of trees together which too serve as landmarks
--> *natural=wood*
for open areas it is okay to map --> *leisure=common* * (but you can
use also a landcover tag for
open areas like -->  natural=sandor landuse=grass)*


Further remarks and clarification:

- on buildings; indeed it would be good to collect the levels but don't put
effort in it for now. We first need the base map of roads and big
landmarks. This is essential to do mapping on the ground.
- In this case building=construction is also not recommended. Every day
things are changing here. Besides this, buildings under construction have
often already inhabitants. Often they are just building one more floor on
top of the existing building. (Think back to the catastrophe in Rana Plaza
, you get
buildings ready to collapes anytime by building like this...) So just stick
with building=yes for now.
- the leisure=common tag we try to adjust this one during the mapping on
the ground

If you need more clarifications, if you have questions or if you have ideas
to make all this even more smoothly, please give us a sign!

Best greetings,

Jorieke





2015-01-15 16:48 GMT+06:00 althio althio :

> Hi Bouke Pieter,
>
> I will try to answer and Jorieke may refine later on.
>
> > For high (appartment)buildings I assume building=yes?
>
> OK.
> From the instructions tab: map landmarks, large buildings, not small ones
> [tags]
> building=yes for rectangular & round buildings - trace the building outline
> building=construction for walls without a roof
> [note: I assume more refinement are possible as in
> building=residential or building=apartments but this is hard to tell
> from imagery and not requested in this project]
> [note 2: To Jorieke; maybe request additional tag for large buildings
> otherwise they will not stand out if small buildings are ever traced.
> Maybe height=* or building:levels=* even if it is approximate. Anyway
> I think this is valid for any mapping: building=yes/residential +
> building:levels=6..8..10..12 + source:building:levels=estimate from
> imagery]
> [note 3: sometimes in other project, building=construction is not
> encouraged because construction seen in imagery may well be finished
> by now. So follow instructions project by project]
>
>
> > Trees: natural=tree?
>
> OK.
> from the powerpoint: map BIG trees (because they are landmarks,
> significant tree)
> [tags]
> natural=tree [I assume]
>
>
> > But how to do an open area? area=yes?
>
> No.
> from the powerpoint: map open spaces
> [tags]
> leisure=common [I assume, as usual practice for HOT]
>
> Cheers
>
> althio
>
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Re: [HOT] Mapping in Dhaka, Bangladesh!

[Blake Girardot]

Hi Jorieke,

I noticed a few buildings already mapped, like the ones in your 
powerpoint slide showing "significant" buildings, often with brightly 
colored roofs (blue, red, etc).


And they had roof:colour=* tags on them already in OSM.

Do you think those would help? It might help people find the buildings, 
or identify which building is mapped: "Oh the one with the red roof"


But I do not know if the roof:colour=* information would be available to 
the people using our mapping data.


Just wonder if you thought it would be a good idea or not. It is a small 
thing, but I liked the idea when I saw it.


Cheers,
Blake





On 1/15/2015 7:52 PM, Jorieke Vyncke wrote:

Hi everybody,

First of all thanks a lot for mapping in the Bangladesh tasks! It will
be of great help!

And indeed, I should have made it clearer in the presentation. I'll try
to do a review tomorrow.
In big follow the instructions of althio:

for appartment and other large buildings --> * building=yes*
for big individual trees which serve as landmark  --> *natural=tree*
but also bushes and a bunch of trees together which too serve as
landmarks --> *natural=wood*
for open areas it is okay to map --> *leisure=common* /(but you can use
also a landcover tag for
open areas like -->  natural=sandor landuse=grass)/


Further remarks and clarification:

- on buildings; indeed it would be good to collect the levels but don't
put effort in it for now. We first need the base map of roads and big
landmarks. This is essential to do mapping on the ground.
- In this case building=construction is also not recommended. Every day
things are changing here. Besides this, buildings under construction
have often already inhabitants. Often they are just building one more
floor on top of the existing building. (Think back to the catastrophe in
Rana Plaza ,
you get buildings ready to collapes anytime by building like this...) So
just stick with building=yes for now.
- the leisure=common tag we try to adjust this one during the mapping on
the ground

If you need more clarifications, if you have questions or if you have
ideas to make all this even more smoothly, please give us a sign!

Best greetings,

Jorieke





2015-01-15 16:48 GMT+06:00 althio althio mailto:althio.fo...@gmail.com>>:

Hi Bouke Pieter,

I will try to answer and Jorieke may refine later on.

> For high (appartment)buildings I assume building=yes?

OK.
 >From the instructions tab: map landmarks, large buildings, not
small ones
[tags]
building=yes for rectangular & round buildings - trace the building
outline
building=construction for walls without a roof
[note: I assume more refinement are possible as in
building=residential or building=apartments but this is hard to tell
from imagery and not requested in this project]
[note 2: To Jorieke; maybe request additional tag for large buildings
otherwise they will not stand out if small buildings are ever traced.
Maybe height=* or building:levels=* even if it is approximate. Anyway
I think this is valid for any mapping: building=yes/residential +
building:levels=6..8..10..12 + source:building:levels=estimate from
imagery]
[note 3: sometimes in other project, building=construction is not
encouraged because construction seen in imagery may well be finished
by now. So follow instructions project by project]


 > Trees: natural=tree?

OK.
from the powerpoint: map BIG trees (because they are landmarks,
significant tree)
[tags]
natural=tree [I assume]


> But how to do an open area? area=yes?

No.
from the powerpoint: map open spaces
[tags]
leisure=common [I assume, as usual practice for HOT]

Cheers

althio




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Re: [HOT] Mapping in Dhaka, Bangladesh!

[Jorieke Vyncke]

Hi Blake,

I like ideas like that!
If it is rendering on OsmAnd we definitly can use it :-)

Greetings,

Jorieke


2015-01-16 1:04 GMT+06:00 Blake Girardot :

> Hi Jorieke,
>
> I noticed a few buildings already mapped, like the ones in your powerpoint
> slide showing "significant" buildings, often with brightly colored roofs
> (blue, red, etc).
>
> And they had roof:colour=* tags on them already in OSM.
>
> Do you think those would help? It might help people find the buildings, or
> identify which building is mapped: "Oh the one with the red roof"
>
> But I do not know if the roof:colour=* information would be available to
> the people using our mapping data.
>
> Just wonder if you thought it would be a good idea or not. It is a small
> thing, but I liked the idea when I saw it.
>
> Cheers,
> Blake
>
>
>
>
>
> On 1/15/2015 7:52 PM, Jorieke Vyncke wrote:
>
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> First of all thanks a lot for mapping in the Bangladesh tasks! It will
>> be of great help!
>>
>> And indeed, I should have made it clearer in the presentation. I'll try
>> to do a review tomorrow.
>> In big follow the instructions of althio:
>>
>> for appartment and other large buildings --> * building=yes*
>> for big individual trees which serve as landmark  --> *natural=tree*
>> but also bushes and a bunch of trees together which too serve as
>> landmarks --> *natural=wood*
>> for open areas it is okay to map --> *leisure=common* /(but you can use
>> also a landcover tag for
>> open areas like -->  natural=sandor landuse=grass)/
>>
>>
>> Further remarks and clarification:
>>
>> - on buildings; indeed it would be good to collect the levels but don't
>> put effort in it for now. We first need the base map of roads and big
>> landmarks. This is essential to do mapping on the ground.
>> - In this case building=construction is also not recommended. Every day
>> things are changing here. Besides this, buildings under construction
>> have often already inhabitants. Often they are just building one more
>> floor on top of the existing building. (Think back to the catastrophe in
>> Rana Plaza ,
>> you get buildings ready to collapes anytime by building like this...) So
>> just stick with building=yes for now.
>> - the leisure=common tag we try to adjust this one during the mapping on
>> the ground
>>
>> If you need more clarifications, if you have questions or if you have
>> ideas to make all this even more smoothly, please give us a sign!
>>
>> Best greetings,
>>
>> Jorieke
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2015-01-15 16:48 GMT+06:00 althio althio > >:
>>
>>
>> Hi Bouke Pieter,
>>
>> I will try to answer and Jorieke may refine later on.
>>
>> > For high (appartment)buildings I assume building=yes?
>>
>> OK.
>>  >From the instructions tab: map landmarks, large buildings, not
>> small ones
>> [tags]
>> building=yes for rectangular & round buildings - trace the building
>> outline
>> building=construction for walls without a roof
>> [note: I assume more refinement are possible as in
>> building=residential or building=apartments but this is hard to tell
>> from imagery and not requested in this project]
>> [note 2: To Jorieke; maybe request additional tag for large buildings
>> otherwise they will not stand out if small buildings are ever traced.
>> Maybe height=* or building:levels=* even if it is approximate. Anyway
>> I think this is valid for any mapping: building=yes/residential +
>> building:levels=6..8..10..12 + source:building:levels=estimate from
>> imagery]
>> [note 3: sometimes in other project, building=construction is not
>> encouraged because construction seen in imagery may well be finished
>> by now. So follow instructions project by project]
>>
>>
>>  > Trees: natural=tree?
>>
>> OK.
>> from the powerpoint: map BIG trees (because they are landmarks,
>> significant tree)
>> [tags]
>> natural=tree [I assume]
>>
>>
>> > But how to do an open area? area=yes?
>>
>> No.
>> from the powerpoint: map open spaces
>> [tags]
>> leisure=common [I assume, as usual practice for HOT]
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> althio
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [HOT] Mapping in Dhaka, Bangladesh!

[Pete Masters]

Hello all,

Thanks for your efforts on the Missing Maps Bangladesh tasks - we already
have a pile of field data to go back in to OSM!

The tracing is really helping the volunteers here and so I just wanted to
update you.

TASK 838 is the priority. We will be mapping it from TOMORROW! So, if you
have a minute, every square will help ;)

We will be mapping south to north, so please do the same in the task.

TASK 831 will be afterwards and we have re-prioritised the areas of
interest having chatted with NGOs here. The far eastern tip is the
priority, after that following the spur of the river north west.

Thanks once again!

Pete

On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 12:52 AM, Jorieke Vyncke 
wrote:

> Hi everybody,
>
> First of all thanks a lot for mapping in the Bangladesh tasks! It will be
> of great help!
>
> And indeed, I should have made it clearer in the presentation. I'll try to
> do a review tomorrow.
> In big follow the instructions of althio:
>
> for appartment and other large buildings --> * building=yes*
> for big individual trees which serve as landmark  -->  *natural=tree*
> but also bushes and a bunch of trees together which too serve as landmarks
> --> *natural=wood*
> for open areas it is okay to map --> *leisure=common* * (but you can
> use also a landcover tag for
> open areas like -->  natural=sandor landuse=grass)*
>
>
> Further remarks and clarification:
>
> - on buildings; indeed it would be good to collect the levels but don't
> put effort in it for now. We first need the base map of roads and big
> landmarks. This is essential to do mapping on the ground.
> - In this case building=construction is also not recommended. Every day
> things are changing here. Besides this, buildings under construction have
> often already inhabitants. Often they are just building one more floor on
> top of the existing building. (Think back to the catastrophe in Rana Plaza
> , you get
> buildings ready to collapes anytime by building like this...) So just stick
> with building=yes for now.
> - the leisure=common tag we try to adjust this one during the mapping on
> the ground
>
> If you need more clarifications, if you have questions or if you have
> ideas to make all this even more smoothly, please give us a sign!
>
> Best greetings,
>
> Jorieke
>
>
>
>
>
> 2015-01-15 16:48 GMT+06:00 althio althio :
>
>> Hi Bouke Pieter,
>>
>> I will try to answer and Jorieke may refine later on.
>>
>> > For high (appartment)buildings I assume building=yes?
>>
>> OK.
>> From the instructions tab: map landmarks, large buildings, not small ones
>> [tags]
>> building=yes for rectangular & round buildings - trace the building
>> outline
>> building=construction for walls without a roof
>> [note: I assume more refinement are possible as in
>> building=residential or building=apartments but this is hard to tell
>> from imagery and not requested in this project]
>> [note 2: To Jorieke; maybe request additional tag for large buildings
>> otherwise they will not stand out if small buildings are ever traced.
>> Maybe height=* or building:levels=* even if it is approximate. Anyway
>> I think this is valid for any mapping: building=yes/residential +
>> building:levels=6..8..10..12 + source:building:levels=estimate from
>> imagery]
>> [note 3: sometimes in other project, building=construction is not
>> encouraged because construction seen in imagery may well be finished
>> by now. So follow instructions project by project]
>>
>>
>> > Trees: natural=tree?
>>
>> OK.
>> from the powerpoint: map BIG trees (because they are landmarks,
>> significant tree)
>> [tags]
>> natural=tree [I assume]
>>
>>
>> > But how to do an open area? area=yes?
>>
>> No.
>> from the powerpoint: map open spaces
>> [tags]
>> leisure=common [I assume, as usual practice for HOT]
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> althio
>>
>
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