Re: [HOT] Moving the focus to JOSM in mapathons

[Ben Abelshausen]

On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Claire Halleux 
wrote:

> The only issue is that there's always at least one or few participants
> without updated antivirus software and we always end up with at least one
> infected USB stick.


There are also write-protected USB sticks, meaning with a hardware switch
to write-protect them. An example here:

http://store.kanguru.com/products/kanguru-flashblu30

Met vriendelijke groeten,
Best regards,

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Re: [HOT] Moving the focus to JOSM in mapathons

[Claire Halleux]

Yep, that's what we've also been doing for years in DRC.
The only issue is that there's always at least one or few participants
without updated antivirus software and we always end up with at least one
infected USB stick.
The way around was using a rewritable CD... and an external CD/DVD reader,
as less and less people do have an internal working one.

+1 for finding a way to download the twitch videos or encouraging Jo to
upload them on another platform.

Best,

Claire

Claire Halleux
+243 81 611 6998 (Kinshasa, DRC)
Missing Maps Project
OpenStreetMap RDC
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On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Enock Seth Nyamador 
wrote:

> > i had no luck booting my laptop into linux to use linux software, but I
> hear it works for a large % of people.
>
> Works in some cases provided java (JRE/JDK) is installed in the live boot.
>
> Since most people come along with their own laptops best solution is  USB
> sticks with JRE and JOSM for various Operating Systems. Very practical.
> Learnt this from Severin Menard. :)
>
> Best,
>
> - Enock
> UMaT, Tarkwa
> enockseth.github.io
>
> On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Blake Girardot 
> wrote:
>
>> What about the USB sticks? Those should be on hand so you can boot
>> anyone into a Linux environment with the right java and latest josm if
>> they were curious about josm but did not come expecting to try it or
>> something?
>>
>> i had no luck booting my laptop into linux to use linux software, but
>> I hear it works for a large % of people.
>>
>> This would also solve the "we are in a computer lab and can not get
>> permission to install java or josm on the machiens" issue as well.
>>
>> I am sure there is an image somewhere and someone could try and make
>> just a rough outline of the steps for our more tech savy people to try
>> and replicate.
>>
>> cheers
>> blake
>>
>> On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 3:39 PM, john whelan 
>> wrote:
>> > I think if we suggest they download Java before arriving,
>> josm-tested.jar
>> > can be copied for a USB stick or local server ie laptop.  I think that
>> would
>> > save bandwidth and trying to download multiple copies at the same time
>> would
>> > mean delays.
>> >
>> > Hopefully it works out.
>> >
>> > Thanks John
>> >
>> > On 14 May 2016 at 07:11, Pete Masters 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi all, over the past few weeks, some of the validation chat has
>> focused
>> >> on tools (iD / JOSM, generally). We made a decision at this month's
>> London
>> >> Missing Maps mapathon to try and put more of a focus on using JOSM,
>> rather
>> >> than iD. We're not sure how it went yet, but will continue to try and
>> >> develop this in future months.
>> >>
>> >> I have written a quick OSM diary on it, here:
>> >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/pedrito1414/diary/38604 If you have
>> >> comments, please feel free to leave them there. I am also going to
>> share it
>> >> with new mappers who were involved as they are generally not on this
>> list
>> >> and their thoughts could be interesting...
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >>
>> >> Pete
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Pete Masters
>> >> Missing Maps Project Coordinator
>> >> +44 7921 781 518
>> >>
>> >> missingmaps.org
>> >>
>> >> @pedrito1414
>> >> @theMissingMaps
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Re: [HOT] Moving the focus to JOSM in mapathons

[Jo]

If you add a josm.cmd, you can start JOSM passing it some parameters.
Normally you would point to a folder on the USB stick, but you can have it
point to the C: drive as well.

I use the following (you need gnu-tools for wget.exe to work on Windows.
And you will need to change the paths to relative paths, as you don't know
what drive letter the USB stick will get):

mkdir \data
mkdir \data\osm

"C:\Program Files (x86)\GnuWin32\bin\wget.exe" -N "
http://josm.openstreetmap.de/josm-latest.jar";

"C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.8.0_66\bin\java.exe" -Xmx1850M -classpath
"C:\Data\OSM\josm-latest.jar;C:\Data\osm\jython-standalone-2.7.0.jar"
org.openstreetmap.josm.gui.MainApplication

pause


2016-05-14 23:54 GMT+02:00 john whelan :

> I hang my head in shame.  With remote control enabled it all works fine
> except of course my personal preferences in JOSM which are not an the USB
> stick.
>
> So that's using PortableApps with portable Firefox, Jportable java and
> jportable launcher.  The josm-tested.jar was launched from the USB stick.
> The USB stick is showing 613 Mb used but that includes a few other small
> files so even quite small USB sticks should work.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 14 May 2016 at 16:55, Jo  wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Did you do F12 and enable Remote Control in the setttings?
>>
>> Jo
>>
>> 2016-05-14 22:52 GMT+02:00 john whelan :
>>
>>> Which browser did you use?  The browser works fine, JOSM works fine it
>>> just when you select the tile in the browser it doesn't get passed through
>>> to JOSM.
>>>
>>> Cheerio John
>>>
>>> On 14 May 2016 at 16:10, Jo  wrote:
>>>
 Hi John,

 I did create such sticks several months ago and I didn't have that
 issue. It must be network/firewall related.

 Jo

 2016-05-14 21:28 GMT+02:00 john whelan :

> I picked up PortableApps from the link and installed it with portable
> Firefox and Jportable.  JOSM runs fine but the link from the HOT tiles
> gives "JOSM remote control did not respond. Do you have JOSM running and
> configured to be controlled remotely?"
>
> I think until we get that resolved the Linux bootable USB stick looks
> favourite.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 14 May 2016 at 14:55, Jo  wrote:
>
>> I was bitten by an infected download from sourceforge when I
>> downloaded FileZilla a few months ago. It came with an obnoxious "backup"
>> solution that does anything but backup.
>>
>> PortableApps seems to be hosted on their own site though:
>> http://portableapps.com/download
>>
>> I didn't have any problems with it and I searched a bit on Google and
>> don't see reports of other people having issues.
>>
>> In fact, my preference OS wise, is Linux. The disadvantage of
>> providing JOSM on a stick, either as PortableApps or as a bootable Linux,
>> is that people don't take it home that way, which makes it less likely
>> they'll continue mapping after the Mapathon. As such, kind of defeating 
>> the
>> purpose.
>>
>> The biggest advantage is that everybody is quickly up to speed during
>> the Mapathon, of course.
>>
>> I guess the best "compromise" is somebody who goes through the room
>> during the Mapatahon, who proposes to install and set up JOSM on their 
>> own
>> computers. So they don't have to take the hurdle of figuring it out for
>> themselves. Not that it's all that hard, but it's time consuming if it
>> needs to be done on many computers with varying OSes.
>>
>> Polyglot
>>
>>
>>
>> 2016-05-14 20:32 GMT+02:00 Jo :
>>
>>> Hi Enock,
>>>
>>> You are right. Twitch is a bit annoying with all their publicity for
>>> (mostly) wargames. I should do the extra step of exporting the better 
>>> ones
>>> to Youtube.
>>>
>>> There is one advantage to Twitch. It works together with OBS (Open
>>> Broadcast Software). All I need to do is activate that and streaming is
>>> automatic, which means that I'm doing it more often, than I would be, 
>>> if I
>>> had to record, then encode, then upload.
>>>
>>> Jo
>>>
>>> 2016-05-14 19:06 GMT+02:00 Enock Seth Nyamador 
>>> :
>>>
 Hi Jo,

 Thanks for the videos. Why Twitch? Will be very nice and great on
 the side of some of us if you can use Vimeo or YouTube making easier to
 download.

 What you say?

 Best,

 - Enock
 UMaT, Tarkwa
 enockseth.github.io

 On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Jo  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Here you can find instructions for install portabableApps on a USB
> stick:
> http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/java_portable
>
> Then it's not necessary to reboot your computer into Linux. Nor is
> it necessary to have administrator rights to ru

Re: [HOT] Moving the focus to JOSM in mapathons

[john whelan]

I hang my head in shame.  With remote control enabled it all works fine
except of course my personal preferences in JOSM which are not an the USB
stick.

So that's using PortableApps with portable Firefox, Jportable java and
jportable launcher.  The josm-tested.jar was launched from the USB stick.
The USB stick is showing 613 Mb used but that includes a few other small
files so even quite small USB sticks should work.

Cheerio John

On 14 May 2016 at 16:55, Jo  wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> Did you do F12 and enable Remote Control in the setttings?
>
> Jo
>
> 2016-05-14 22:52 GMT+02:00 john whelan :
>
>> Which browser did you use?  The browser works fine, JOSM works fine it
>> just when you select the tile in the browser it doesn't get passed through
>> to JOSM.
>>
>> Cheerio John
>>
>> On 14 May 2016 at 16:10, Jo  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi John,
>>>
>>> I did create such sticks several months ago and I didn't have that
>>> issue. It must be network/firewall related.
>>>
>>> Jo
>>>
>>> 2016-05-14 21:28 GMT+02:00 john whelan :
>>>
 I picked up PortableApps from the link and installed it with portable
 Firefox and Jportable.  JOSM runs fine but the link from the HOT tiles
 gives "JOSM remote control did not respond. Do you have JOSM running and
 configured to be controlled remotely?"

 I think until we get that resolved the Linux bootable USB stick looks
 favourite.

 Cheerio John

 On 14 May 2016 at 14:55, Jo  wrote:

> I was bitten by an infected download from sourceforge when I
> downloaded FileZilla a few months ago. It came with an obnoxious "backup"
> solution that does anything but backup.
>
> PortableApps seems to be hosted on their own site though:
> http://portableapps.com/download
>
> I didn't have any problems with it and I searched a bit on Google and
> don't see reports of other people having issues.
>
> In fact, my preference OS wise, is Linux. The disadvantage of
> providing JOSM on a stick, either as PortableApps or as a bootable Linux,
> is that people don't take it home that way, which makes it less likely
> they'll continue mapping after the Mapathon. As such, kind of defeating 
> the
> purpose.
>
> The biggest advantage is that everybody is quickly up to speed during
> the Mapathon, of course.
>
> I guess the best "compromise" is somebody who goes through the room
> during the Mapatahon, who proposes to install and set up JOSM on their own
> computers. So they don't have to take the hurdle of figuring it out for
> themselves. Not that it's all that hard, but it's time consuming if it
> needs to be done on many computers with varying OSes.
>
> Polyglot
>
>
>
> 2016-05-14 20:32 GMT+02:00 Jo :
>
>> Hi Enock,
>>
>> You are right. Twitch is a bit annoying with all their publicity for
>> (mostly) wargames. I should do the extra step of exporting the better 
>> ones
>> to Youtube.
>>
>> There is one advantage to Twitch. It works together with OBS (Open
>> Broadcast Software). All I need to do is activate that and streaming is
>> automatic, which means that I'm doing it more often, than I would be, if 
>> I
>> had to record, then encode, then upload.
>>
>> Jo
>>
>> 2016-05-14 19:06 GMT+02:00 Enock Seth Nyamador :
>>
>>> Hi Jo,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the videos. Why Twitch? Will be very nice and great on
>>> the side of some of us if you can use Vimeo or YouTube making easier to
>>> download.
>>>
>>> What you say?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> - Enock
>>> UMaT, Tarkwa
>>> enockseth.github.io
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Jo  wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 Here you can find instructions for install portabableApps on a USB
 stick:
 http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/java_portable

 Then it's not necessary to reboot your computer into Linux. Nor is
 it necessary to have administrator rights to run Java applications.

 Regarding the use of JOSM for Mapathons. I've been trying to
 promote that idea for a while now. If you want to learn how to 
 configure
 JOSM and how to use it to add buildings:

 https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/profile/highlights

 Setting up JOSM:
 https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35769115

 https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35256378
 https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35258635
 https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35261429
 https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35262223

 Mapping rectangular buildings:

 Mapping a halter shaped building:
 https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/34047877

 Adva

Re: [HOT] Moving the focus to JOSM in mapathons

[Jo]

Hi John,

Did you do F12 and enable Remote Control in the setttings?

Jo

2016-05-14 22:52 GMT+02:00 john whelan :

> Which browser did you use?  The browser works fine, JOSM works fine it
> just when you select the tile in the browser it doesn't get passed through
> to JOSM.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 14 May 2016 at 16:10, Jo  wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> I did create such sticks several months ago and I didn't have that issue.
>> It must be network/firewall related.
>>
>> Jo
>>
>> 2016-05-14 21:28 GMT+02:00 john whelan :
>>
>>> I picked up PortableApps from the link and installed it with portable
>>> Firefox and Jportable.  JOSM runs fine but the link from the HOT tiles
>>> gives "JOSM remote control did not respond. Do you have JOSM running and
>>> configured to be controlled remotely?"
>>>
>>> I think until we get that resolved the Linux bootable USB stick looks
>>> favourite.
>>>
>>> Cheerio John
>>>
>>> On 14 May 2016 at 14:55, Jo  wrote:
>>>
 I was bitten by an infected download from sourceforge when I downloaded
 FileZilla a few months ago. It came with an obnoxious "backup" solution
 that does anything but backup.

 PortableApps seems to be hosted on their own site though:
 http://portableapps.com/download

 I didn't have any problems with it and I searched a bit on Google and
 don't see reports of other people having issues.

 In fact, my preference OS wise, is Linux. The disadvantage of providing
 JOSM on a stick, either as PortableApps or as a bootable Linux, is that
 people don't take it home that way, which makes it less likely they'll
 continue mapping after the Mapathon. As such, kind of defeating the 
 purpose.

 The biggest advantage is that everybody is quickly up to speed during
 the Mapathon, of course.

 I guess the best "compromise" is somebody who goes through the room
 during the Mapatahon, who proposes to install and set up JOSM on their own
 computers. So they don't have to take the hurdle of figuring it out for
 themselves. Not that it's all that hard, but it's time consuming if it
 needs to be done on many computers with varying OSes.

 Polyglot



 2016-05-14 20:32 GMT+02:00 Jo :

> Hi Enock,
>
> You are right. Twitch is a bit annoying with all their publicity for
> (mostly) wargames. I should do the extra step of exporting the better ones
> to Youtube.
>
> There is one advantage to Twitch. It works together with OBS (Open
> Broadcast Software). All I need to do is activate that and streaming is
> automatic, which means that I'm doing it more often, than I would be, if I
> had to record, then encode, then upload.
>
> Jo
>
> 2016-05-14 19:06 GMT+02:00 Enock Seth Nyamador :
>
>> Hi Jo,
>>
>> Thanks for the videos. Why Twitch? Will be very nice and great on the
>> side of some of us if you can use Vimeo or YouTube making easier to
>> download.
>>
>> What you say?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> - Enock
>> UMaT, Tarkwa
>> enockseth.github.io
>>
>> On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Jo  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Here you can find instructions for install portabableApps on a USB
>>> stick:
>>> http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/java_portable
>>>
>>> Then it's not necessary to reboot your computer into Linux. Nor is
>>> it necessary to have administrator rights to run Java applications.
>>>
>>> Regarding the use of JOSM for Mapathons. I've been trying to promote
>>> that idea for a while now. If you want to learn how to configure JOSM 
>>> and
>>> how to use it to add buildings:
>>>
>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/profile/highlights
>>>
>>> Setting up JOSM:
>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35769115
>>>
>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35256378
>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35258635
>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35261429
>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35262223
>>>
>>> Mapping rectangular buildings:
>>>
>>> Mapping a halter shaped building:
>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/34047877
>>>
>>> Advanced mapping of building + complex roundabout:
>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33412245
>>>
>>> Validation:
>>>
>>> Validation of a task focused on mapping buildings:
>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33926879
>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33978956
>>>
>>> Improving accuracy of existing buildings:
>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/32524089
>>>
>>> Use of JOSM's validator:
>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33135797
>>>
>>> Mass correction of crossing ways reported by JOSM's 

Re: [HOT] Moving the focus to JOSM in mapathons

[john whelan]

Which browser did you use?  The browser works fine, JOSM works fine it just
when you select the tile in the browser it doesn't get passed through to
JOSM.

Cheerio John

On 14 May 2016 at 16:10, Jo  wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> I did create such sticks several months ago and I didn't have that issue.
> It must be network/firewall related.
>
> Jo
>
> 2016-05-14 21:28 GMT+02:00 john whelan :
>
>> I picked up PortableApps from the link and installed it with portable
>> Firefox and Jportable.  JOSM runs fine but the link from the HOT tiles
>> gives "JOSM remote control did not respond. Do you have JOSM running and
>> configured to be controlled remotely?"
>>
>> I think until we get that resolved the Linux bootable USB stick looks
>> favourite.
>>
>> Cheerio John
>>
>> On 14 May 2016 at 14:55, Jo  wrote:
>>
>>> I was bitten by an infected download from sourceforge when I downloaded
>>> FileZilla a few months ago. It came with an obnoxious "backup" solution
>>> that does anything but backup.
>>>
>>> PortableApps seems to be hosted on their own site though:
>>> http://portableapps.com/download
>>>
>>> I didn't have any problems with it and I searched a bit on Google and
>>> don't see reports of other people having issues.
>>>
>>> In fact, my preference OS wise, is Linux. The disadvantage of providing
>>> JOSM on a stick, either as PortableApps or as a bootable Linux, is that
>>> people don't take it home that way, which makes it less likely they'll
>>> continue mapping after the Mapathon. As such, kind of defeating the purpose.
>>>
>>> The biggest advantage is that everybody is quickly up to speed during
>>> the Mapathon, of course.
>>>
>>> I guess the best "compromise" is somebody who goes through the room
>>> during the Mapatahon, who proposes to install and set up JOSM on their own
>>> computers. So they don't have to take the hurdle of figuring it out for
>>> themselves. Not that it's all that hard, but it's time consuming if it
>>> needs to be done on many computers with varying OSes.
>>>
>>> Polyglot
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2016-05-14 20:32 GMT+02:00 Jo :
>>>
 Hi Enock,

 You are right. Twitch is a bit annoying with all their publicity for
 (mostly) wargames. I should do the extra step of exporting the better ones
 to Youtube.

 There is one advantage to Twitch. It works together with OBS (Open
 Broadcast Software). All I need to do is activate that and streaming is
 automatic, which means that I'm doing it more often, than I would be, if I
 had to record, then encode, then upload.

 Jo

 2016-05-14 19:06 GMT+02:00 Enock Seth Nyamador :

> Hi Jo,
>
> Thanks for the videos. Why Twitch? Will be very nice and great on the
> side of some of us if you can use Vimeo or YouTube making easier to
> download.
>
> What you say?
>
> Best,
>
> - Enock
> UMaT, Tarkwa
> enockseth.github.io
>
> On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Jo  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Here you can find instructions for install portabableApps on a USB
>> stick:
>> http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/java_portable
>>
>> Then it's not necessary to reboot your computer into Linux. Nor is it
>> necessary to have administrator rights to run Java applications.
>>
>> Regarding the use of JOSM for Mapathons. I've been trying to promote
>> that idea for a while now. If you want to learn how to configure JOSM and
>> how to use it to add buildings:
>>
>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/profile/highlights
>>
>> Setting up JOSM:
>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35769115
>>
>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35256378
>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35258635
>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35261429
>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35262223
>>
>> Mapping rectangular buildings:
>>
>> Mapping a halter shaped building:
>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/34047877
>>
>> Advanced mapping of building + complex roundabout:
>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33412245
>>
>> Validation:
>>
>> Validation of a task focused on mapping buildings:
>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33926879
>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33978956
>>
>> Improving accuracy of existing buildings:
>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/32524089
>>
>> Use of JOSM's validator:
>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33135797
>>
>> Mass correction of crossing ways reported by JOSM's validator:
>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33197285
>> + check if all is well with todo plugin
>>
>> Fixing duplicate buildings (many of them):
>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35983874
>>
>> Pasting tags on

Re: [HOT] Moving the focus to JOSM in mapathons

[Pete Masters]

Hey Polyglot, people sign up for the London mapathons via eventbrite, so we
emailed all the JOSM newbies beforehand to ask them install JOSM before
they came.

Next month, we can try including the twitch links in the email...

Ta!

Pete
On 14 May 2016 17:54, "Jo"  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Here you can find instructions for install portabableApps on a USB stick:
> http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/java_portable
>
> Then it's not necessary to reboot your computer into Linux. Nor is it
> necessary to have administrator rights to run Java applications.
>
> Regarding the use of JOSM for Mapathons. I've been trying to promote that
> idea for a while now. If you want to learn how to configure JOSM and how to
> use it to add buildings:
>
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/profile/highlights
>
> Setting up JOSM:
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35769115
>
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35256378
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35258635
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35261429
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35262223
>
> Mapping rectangular buildings:
>
> Mapping a halter shaped building:
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/34047877
>
> Advanced mapping of building + complex roundabout:
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33412245
>
> Validation:
>
> Validation of a task focused on mapping buildings:
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33926879
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33978956
>
> Improving accuracy of existing buildings:
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/32524089
>
> Use of JOSM's validator:
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33135797
>
> Mass correction of crossing ways reported by JOSM's validator:
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33197285
> + check if all is well with todo plugin
>
> Fixing duplicate buildings (many of them):
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35983874
>
> Pasting tags on a changeset (from clipboard):
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/41511097
>
> Use of improve way accuracy tool (w) on a road in Uganda:
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/43661664
>
> Mapping an archeological site in Kyrghyzstan using Mapillary
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/45658771
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/45661736
>
> I hope this helps. Feel free to use these videos for learning and teaching
> purposes.
>
> Polyglot
>
>
>
> 2016-05-14 18:04 GMT+02:00 john whelan :
>
>> From sardiniaopend...@gmail.com on April 5th 2106
>>
>> So it looks doable with the right image on the USB stick.  John
>>
>> "
>> Dear HOT Team members
>>
>> my name is Claudia and I 'm writing on the behave on an italian
>> association called SardiniaOpenData. Since 2013  we are involved in free
>> training and mapping using OSM , related to our urban context and to the
>> humantarian world as I was deployed in Chad with you guys ( thanks again
>> for the opportunity ) .
>>
>> I'm writing to you because we finally manage to have a small finanincig
>> to organise a 3 modules course, to trainin citizens to map first using OSM,
>> secondly how to use  WheelMap   training the paraplegic
>> associationinCagliari . The second module will be about the Tasking Manager
>> and how to contribute to the remote mapping.
>>
>> We have planned 2 outside  mapping parties  to collect data and 3 indoor
>> lessons to teach them how does the Tasking works. The period will be May
>> 2016 . For the first year we manage to have free materials to offer to
>> ours attendants, expecially a personal  usb card with a free distribution
>> of Linux ( I think Ubuntu 14.04 lts ) with all the tools and programs
>> already installed, JOSM,website bookmarks concerning all the OSM world,
>> WkiOSM, LearnOSM, etc..
>>
>> We wanted to let you know about our training and to share our enthusiasm
>> . There will be some blog posts out soon , both in  english and italian.
>> If you will like to share it, all the team will be really happy.
>> If thereis  any specific task you'd like us to help , just let us know.
>> As I did with the last training , I will spend with great pleasure  15
>> minutes talking about the HOT Team and your amazing work.
>>
>> Have a great day and thaks again !
>>
>>
>> *The most dangerous thing to do is to stand still.“ William Burroughs *
>> We keep on moving !
>>
>> Claudia
>> Sardinia Open Data
>> twitter: @sard_opendata"
>>
>> On 14 May 2016 at 12:00, Enock Seth Nyamador  wrote:
>>
>>> > i had no luck booting my laptop into linux to use linux software, but
>>> I hear it works for a large % of people.
>>>
>>> Works in some cases provided java (JRE/JDK) is installed in the live
>>> boot.
>>>
>>> Since most people come along with their own laptops best solution is
>>> USB sticks with JRE and JOSM for various Operating Systems. Very practical.
>>> Learnt this from Severin Menard. :)
>>>
>>> Be

Re: [HOT] Moving the focus to JOSM in mapathons

[Jo]

Hi John,

I did create such sticks several months ago and I didn't have that issue.
It must be network/firewall related.

Jo

2016-05-14 21:28 GMT+02:00 john whelan :

> I picked up PortableApps from the link and installed it with portable
> Firefox and Jportable.  JOSM runs fine but the link from the HOT tiles
> gives "JOSM remote control did not respond. Do you have JOSM running and
> configured to be controlled remotely?"
>
> I think until we get that resolved the Linux bootable USB stick looks
> favourite.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 14 May 2016 at 14:55, Jo  wrote:
>
>> I was bitten by an infected download from sourceforge when I downloaded
>> FileZilla a few months ago. It came with an obnoxious "backup" solution
>> that does anything but backup.
>>
>> PortableApps seems to be hosted on their own site though:
>> http://portableapps.com/download
>>
>> I didn't have any problems with it and I searched a bit on Google and
>> don't see reports of other people having issues.
>>
>> In fact, my preference OS wise, is Linux. The disadvantage of providing
>> JOSM on a stick, either as PortableApps or as a bootable Linux, is that
>> people don't take it home that way, which makes it less likely they'll
>> continue mapping after the Mapathon. As such, kind of defeating the purpose.
>>
>> The biggest advantage is that everybody is quickly up to speed during the
>> Mapathon, of course.
>>
>> I guess the best "compromise" is somebody who goes through the room
>> during the Mapatahon, who proposes to install and set up JOSM on their own
>> computers. So they don't have to take the hurdle of figuring it out for
>> themselves. Not that it's all that hard, but it's time consuming if it
>> needs to be done on many computers with varying OSes.
>>
>> Polyglot
>>
>>
>>
>> 2016-05-14 20:32 GMT+02:00 Jo :
>>
>>> Hi Enock,
>>>
>>> You are right. Twitch is a bit annoying with all their publicity for
>>> (mostly) wargames. I should do the extra step of exporting the better ones
>>> to Youtube.
>>>
>>> There is one advantage to Twitch. It works together with OBS (Open
>>> Broadcast Software). All I need to do is activate that and streaming is
>>> automatic, which means that I'm doing it more often, than I would be, if I
>>> had to record, then encode, then upload.
>>>
>>> Jo
>>>
>>> 2016-05-14 19:06 GMT+02:00 Enock Seth Nyamador :
>>>
 Hi Jo,

 Thanks for the videos. Why Twitch? Will be very nice and great on the
 side of some of us if you can use Vimeo or YouTube making easier to
 download.

 What you say?

 Best,

 - Enock
 UMaT, Tarkwa
 enockseth.github.io

 On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Jo  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Here you can find instructions for install portabableApps on a USB
> stick:
> http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/java_portable
>
> Then it's not necessary to reboot your computer into Linux. Nor is it
> necessary to have administrator rights to run Java applications.
>
> Regarding the use of JOSM for Mapathons. I've been trying to promote
> that idea for a while now. If you want to learn how to configure JOSM and
> how to use it to add buildings:
>
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/profile/highlights
>
> Setting up JOSM:
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35769115
>
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35256378
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35258635
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35261429
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35262223
>
> Mapping rectangular buildings:
>
> Mapping a halter shaped building:
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/34047877
>
> Advanced mapping of building + complex roundabout:
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33412245
>
> Validation:
>
> Validation of a task focused on mapping buildings:
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33926879
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33978956
>
> Improving accuracy of existing buildings:
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/32524089
>
> Use of JOSM's validator:
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33135797
>
> Mass correction of crossing ways reported by JOSM's validator:
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33197285
> + check if all is well with todo plugin
>
> Fixing duplicate buildings (many of them):
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35983874
>
> Pasting tags on a changeset (from clipboard):
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/41511097
>
> Use of improve way accuracy tool (w) on a road in Uganda:
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/43661664
>
> Mapping an archeological site in Kyrghyzstan using Mapillary
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreet

Re: [HOT] Moving the focus to JOSM in mapathons

[john whelan]

I picked up PortableApps from the link and installed it with portable
Firefox and Jportable.  JOSM runs fine but the link from the HOT tiles
gives "JOSM remote control did not respond. Do you have JOSM running and
configured to be controlled remotely?"

I think until we get that resolved the Linux bootable USB stick looks
favourite.

Cheerio John

On 14 May 2016 at 14:55, Jo  wrote:

> I was bitten by an infected download from sourceforge when I downloaded
> FileZilla a few months ago. It came with an obnoxious "backup" solution
> that does anything but backup.
>
> PortableApps seems to be hosted on their own site though:
> http://portableapps.com/download
>
> I didn't have any problems with it and I searched a bit on Google and
> don't see reports of other people having issues.
>
> In fact, my preference OS wise, is Linux. The disadvantage of providing
> JOSM on a stick, either as PortableApps or as a bootable Linux, is that
> people don't take it home that way, which makes it less likely they'll
> continue mapping after the Mapathon. As such, kind of defeating the purpose.
>
> The biggest advantage is that everybody is quickly up to speed during the
> Mapathon, of course.
>
> I guess the best "compromise" is somebody who goes through the room during
> the Mapatahon, who proposes to install and set up JOSM on their own
> computers. So they don't have to take the hurdle of figuring it out for
> themselves. Not that it's all that hard, but it's time consuming if it
> needs to be done on many computers with varying OSes.
>
> Polyglot
>
>
>
> 2016-05-14 20:32 GMT+02:00 Jo :
>
>> Hi Enock,
>>
>> You are right. Twitch is a bit annoying with all their publicity for
>> (mostly) wargames. I should do the extra step of exporting the better ones
>> to Youtube.
>>
>> There is one advantage to Twitch. It works together with OBS (Open
>> Broadcast Software). All I need to do is activate that and streaming is
>> automatic, which means that I'm doing it more often, than I would be, if I
>> had to record, then encode, then upload.
>>
>> Jo
>>
>> 2016-05-14 19:06 GMT+02:00 Enock Seth Nyamador :
>>
>>> Hi Jo,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the videos. Why Twitch? Will be very nice and great on the
>>> side of some of us if you can use Vimeo or YouTube making easier to
>>> download.
>>>
>>> What you say?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> - Enock
>>> UMaT, Tarkwa
>>> enockseth.github.io
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Jo  wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 Here you can find instructions for install portabableApps on a USB
 stick:
 http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/java_portable

 Then it's not necessary to reboot your computer into Linux. Nor is it
 necessary to have administrator rights to run Java applications.

 Regarding the use of JOSM for Mapathons. I've been trying to promote
 that idea for a while now. If you want to learn how to configure JOSM and
 how to use it to add buildings:

 https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/profile/highlights

 Setting up JOSM:
 https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35769115

 https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35256378
 https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35258635
 https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35261429
 https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35262223

 Mapping rectangular buildings:

 Mapping a halter shaped building:
 https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/34047877

 Advanced mapping of building + complex roundabout:
 https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33412245

 Validation:

 Validation of a task focused on mapping buildings:
 https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33926879
 https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33978956

 Improving accuracy of existing buildings:
 https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/32524089

 Use of JOSM's validator:
 https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33135797

 Mass correction of crossing ways reported by JOSM's validator:
 https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33197285
 + check if all is well with todo plugin

 Fixing duplicate buildings (many of them):
 https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35983874

 Pasting tags on a changeset (from clipboard):
 https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/41511097

 Use of improve way accuracy tool (w) on a road in Uganda:
 https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/43661664

 Mapping an archeological site in Kyrghyzstan using Mapillary
 https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/45658771
 https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/45661736

 I hope this helps. Feel free to use these videos for learning and
 teaching purposes.

 Polyglot



 2016-05-14 18:04 GMT+02:00 john whelan :

> From sardiniaopend...@gmail.com on April

Re: [HOT] Moving the focus to JOSM in mapathons

[Jo]

I was bitten by an infected download from sourceforge when I downloaded
FileZilla a few months ago. It came with an obnoxious "backup" solution
that does anything but backup.

PortableApps seems to be hosted on their own site though:
http://portableapps.com/download

I didn't have any problems with it and I searched a bit on Google and don't
see reports of other people having issues.

In fact, my preference OS wise, is Linux. The disadvantage of providing
JOSM on a stick, either as PortableApps or as a bootable Linux, is that
people don't take it home that way, which makes it less likely they'll
continue mapping after the Mapathon. As such, kind of defeating the purpose.

The biggest advantage is that everybody is quickly up to speed during the
Mapathon, of course.

I guess the best "compromise" is somebody who goes through the room during
the Mapatahon, who proposes to install and set up JOSM on their own
computers. So they don't have to take the hurdle of figuring it out for
themselves. Not that it's all that hard, but it's time consuming if it
needs to be done on many computers with varying OSes.

Polyglot



2016-05-14 20:32 GMT+02:00 Jo :

> Hi Enock,
>
> You are right. Twitch is a bit annoying with all their publicity for
> (mostly) wargames. I should do the extra step of exporting the better ones
> to Youtube.
>
> There is one advantage to Twitch. It works together with OBS (Open
> Broadcast Software). All I need to do is activate that and streaming is
> automatic, which means that I'm doing it more often, than I would be, if I
> had to record, then encode, then upload.
>
> Jo
>
> 2016-05-14 19:06 GMT+02:00 Enock Seth Nyamador :
>
>> Hi Jo,
>>
>> Thanks for the videos. Why Twitch? Will be very nice and great on the
>> side of some of us if you can use Vimeo or YouTube making easier to
>> download.
>>
>> What you say?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> - Enock
>> UMaT, Tarkwa
>> enockseth.github.io
>>
>> On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Jo  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Here you can find instructions for install portabableApps on a USB stick:
>>> http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/java_portable
>>>
>>> Then it's not necessary to reboot your computer into Linux. Nor is it
>>> necessary to have administrator rights to run Java applications.
>>>
>>> Regarding the use of JOSM for Mapathons. I've been trying to promote
>>> that idea for a while now. If you want to learn how to configure JOSM and
>>> how to use it to add buildings:
>>>
>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/profile/highlights
>>>
>>> Setting up JOSM:
>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35769115
>>>
>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35256378
>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35258635
>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35261429
>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35262223
>>>
>>> Mapping rectangular buildings:
>>>
>>> Mapping a halter shaped building:
>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/34047877
>>>
>>> Advanced mapping of building + complex roundabout:
>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33412245
>>>
>>> Validation:
>>>
>>> Validation of a task focused on mapping buildings:
>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33926879
>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33978956
>>>
>>> Improving accuracy of existing buildings:
>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/32524089
>>>
>>> Use of JOSM's validator:
>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33135797
>>>
>>> Mass correction of crossing ways reported by JOSM's validator:
>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33197285
>>> + check if all is well with todo plugin
>>>
>>> Fixing duplicate buildings (many of them):
>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35983874
>>>
>>> Pasting tags on a changeset (from clipboard):
>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/41511097
>>>
>>> Use of improve way accuracy tool (w) on a road in Uganda:
>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/43661664
>>>
>>> Mapping an archeological site in Kyrghyzstan using Mapillary
>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/45658771
>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/45661736
>>>
>>> I hope this helps. Feel free to use these videos for learning and
>>> teaching purposes.
>>>
>>> Polyglot
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2016-05-14 18:04 GMT+02:00 john whelan :
>>>
 From sardiniaopend...@gmail.com on April 5th 2106

 So it looks doable with the right image on the USB stick.  John

 "
 Dear HOT Team members

 my name is Claudia and I 'm writing on the behave on an italian
 association called SardiniaOpenData. Since 2013  we are involved in free
 training and mapping using OSM , related to our urban context and to the
 humantarian world as I was deployed in Chad with you guys ( thanks again
 for the opportunity ) .

 I'm writing to you because we finally manage to have a small finanincig

Re: [HOT] Moving the focus to JOSM in mapathons

[Jo]

Hi Enock,

You are right. Twitch is a bit annoying with all their publicity for
(mostly) wargames. I should do the extra step of exporting the better ones
to Youtube.

There is one advantage to Twitch. It works together with OBS (Open
Broadcast Software). All I need to do is activate that and streaming is
automatic, which means that I'm doing it more often, than I would be, if I
had to record, then encode, then upload.

Jo

2016-05-14 19:06 GMT+02:00 Enock Seth Nyamador :

> Hi Jo,
>
> Thanks for the videos. Why Twitch? Will be very nice and great on the side
> of some of us if you can use Vimeo or YouTube making easier to download.
>
> What you say?
>
> Best,
>
> - Enock
> UMaT, Tarkwa
> enockseth.github.io
>
> On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Jo  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Here you can find instructions for install portabableApps on a USB stick:
>> http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/java_portable
>>
>> Then it's not necessary to reboot your computer into Linux. Nor is it
>> necessary to have administrator rights to run Java applications.
>>
>> Regarding the use of JOSM for Mapathons. I've been trying to promote that
>> idea for a while now. If you want to learn how to configure JOSM and how to
>> use it to add buildings:
>>
>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/profile/highlights
>>
>> Setting up JOSM:
>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35769115
>>
>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35256378
>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35258635
>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35261429
>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35262223
>>
>> Mapping rectangular buildings:
>>
>> Mapping a halter shaped building:
>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/34047877
>>
>> Advanced mapping of building + complex roundabout:
>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33412245
>>
>> Validation:
>>
>> Validation of a task focused on mapping buildings:
>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33926879
>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33978956
>>
>> Improving accuracy of existing buildings:
>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/32524089
>>
>> Use of JOSM's validator:
>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33135797
>>
>> Mass correction of crossing ways reported by JOSM's validator:
>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33197285
>> + check if all is well with todo plugin
>>
>> Fixing duplicate buildings (many of them):
>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35983874
>>
>> Pasting tags on a changeset (from clipboard):
>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/41511097
>>
>> Use of improve way accuracy tool (w) on a road in Uganda:
>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/43661664
>>
>> Mapping an archeological site in Kyrghyzstan using Mapillary
>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/45658771
>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/45661736
>>
>> I hope this helps. Feel free to use these videos for learning and
>> teaching purposes.
>>
>> Polyglot
>>
>>
>>
>> 2016-05-14 18:04 GMT+02:00 john whelan :
>>
>>> From sardiniaopend...@gmail.com on April 5th 2106
>>>
>>> So it looks doable with the right image on the USB stick.  John
>>>
>>> "
>>> Dear HOT Team members
>>>
>>> my name is Claudia and I 'm writing on the behave on an italian
>>> association called SardiniaOpenData. Since 2013  we are involved in free
>>> training and mapping using OSM , related to our urban context and to the
>>> humantarian world as I was deployed in Chad with you guys ( thanks again
>>> for the opportunity ) .
>>>
>>> I'm writing to you because we finally manage to have a small finanincig
>>> to organise a 3 modules course, to trainin citizens to map first using OSM,
>>> secondly how to use  WheelMap   training the paraplegic
>>> associationinCagliari . The second module will be about the Tasking Manager
>>> and how to contribute to the remote mapping.
>>>
>>> We have planned 2 outside  mapping parties  to collect data and 3
>>> indoor lessons to teach them how does the Tasking works. The period
>>> will be May 2016 . For the first year we manage to have free materials to
>>> offer to ours attendants, expecially a personal  usb card with a free
>>> distribution of Linux ( I think Ubuntu 14.04 lts ) with all the tools and
>>> programs already installed, JOSM,website bookmarks concerning all the OSM
>>> world, WkiOSM, LearnOSM, etc..
>>>
>>> We wanted to let you know about our training and to share our enthusiasm
>>> . There will be some blog posts out soon , both in  english and italian.
>>> If you will like to share it, all the team will be really happy.
>>> If thereis  any specific task you'd like us to help , just let us know.
>>> As I did with the last training , I will spend with great pleasure  15
>>> minutes talking about the HOT Team and your amazing work.
>>>
>>> Have a great day and thaks again !
>>>
>>>
>>> *The most dangerous thing to do is 

Re: [HOT] Moving the focus to JOSM in mapathons

[john whelan]

Portable apps appears to be hosted on Sourceforge which has changed hands
recently and no most packages come with adware that installs on you
computer as part of the package.  Also I was never able to get it to pass
through the link from the tile in browser to JOSM.

Normally I prefer windows but in this instance I suspect Linux on a
bootable USB might be better.

Cheerio John
On 14 May 2016 12:54 pm, "Jo"  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Here you can find instructions for install portabableApps on a USB stick:
> http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/java_portable
>
> Then it's not necessary to reboot your computer into Linux. Nor is it
> necessary to have administrator rights to run Java applications.
>
> Regarding the use of JOSM for Mapathons. I've been trying to promote that
> idea for a while now. If you want to learn how to configure JOSM and how to
> use it to add buildings:
>
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/profile/highlights
>
> Setting up JOSM:
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35769115
>
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35256378
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35258635
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35261429
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35262223
>
> Mapping rectangular buildings:
>
> Mapping a halter shaped building:
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/34047877
>
> Advanced mapping of building + complex roundabout:
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33412245
>
> Validation:
>
> Validation of a task focused on mapping buildings:
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33926879
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33978956
>
> Improving accuracy of existing buildings:
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/32524089
>
> Use of JOSM's validator:
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33135797
>
> Mass correction of crossing ways reported by JOSM's validator:
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33197285
> + check if all is well with todo plugin
>
> Fixing duplicate buildings (many of them):
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35983874
>
> Pasting tags on a changeset (from clipboard):
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/41511097
>
> Use of improve way accuracy tool (w) on a road in Uganda:
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/43661664
>
> Mapping an archeological site in Kyrghyzstan using Mapillary
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/45658771
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/45661736
>
> I hope this helps. Feel free to use these videos for learning and teaching
> purposes.
>
> Polyglot
>
>
>
> 2016-05-14 18:04 GMT+02:00 john whelan :
>
>> From sardiniaopend...@gmail.com on April 5th 2106
>>
>> So it looks doable with the right image on the USB stick.  John
>>
>> "
>> Dear HOT Team members
>>
>> my name is Claudia and I 'm writing on the behave on an italian
>> association called SardiniaOpenData. Since 2013  we are involved in free
>> training and mapping using OSM , related to our urban context and to the
>> humantarian world as I was deployed in Chad with you guys ( thanks again
>> for the opportunity ) .
>>
>> I'm writing to you because we finally manage to have a small finanincig
>> to organise a 3 modules course, to trainin citizens to map first using OSM,
>> secondly how to use  WheelMap   training the paraplegic
>> associationinCagliari . The second module will be about the Tasking Manager
>> and how to contribute to the remote mapping.
>>
>> We have planned 2 outside  mapping parties  to collect data and 3 indoor
>> lessons to teach them how does the Tasking works. The period will be May
>> 2016 . For the first year we manage to have free materials to offer to
>> ours attendants, expecially a personal  usb card with a free distribution
>> of Linux ( I think Ubuntu 14.04 lts ) with all the tools and programs
>> already installed, JOSM,website bookmarks concerning all the OSM world,
>> WkiOSM, LearnOSM, etc..
>>
>> We wanted to let you know about our training and to share our enthusiasm
>> . There will be some blog posts out soon , both in  english and italian.
>> If you will like to share it, all the team will be really happy.
>> If thereis  any specific task you'd like us to help , just let us know.
>> As I did with the last training , I will spend with great pleasure  15
>> minutes talking about the HOT Team and your amazing work.
>>
>> Have a great day and thaks again !
>>
>>
>> *The most dangerous thing to do is to stand still.“ William Burroughs *
>> We keep on moving !
>>
>> Claudia
>> Sardinia Open Data
>> twitter: @sard_opendata"
>>
>> On 14 May 2016 at 12:00, Enock Seth Nyamador  wrote:
>>
>>> > i had no luck booting my laptop into linux to use linux software, but
>>> I hear it works for a large % of people.
>>>
>>> Works in some cases provided java (JRE/JDK) is installed in the live
>>> boot.
>>>
>>> Since most people come along with their own laptops b

Re: [HOT] Moving the focus to JOSM in mapathons

[Enock Seth Nyamador]

Hi Jo,

Thanks for the videos. Why Twitch? Will be very nice and great on the side
of some of us if you can use Vimeo or YouTube making easier to download.

What you say?

Best,

- Enock
UMaT, Tarkwa
enockseth.github.io

On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Jo  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Here you can find instructions for install portabableApps on a USB stick:
> http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/java_portable
>
> Then it's not necessary to reboot your computer into Linux. Nor is it
> necessary to have administrator rights to run Java applications.
>
> Regarding the use of JOSM for Mapathons. I've been trying to promote that
> idea for a while now. If you want to learn how to configure JOSM and how to
> use it to add buildings:
>
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/profile/highlights
>
> Setting up JOSM:
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35769115
>
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35256378
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35258635
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35261429
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35262223
>
> Mapping rectangular buildings:
>
> Mapping a halter shaped building:
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/34047877
>
> Advanced mapping of building + complex roundabout:
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33412245
>
> Validation:
>
> Validation of a task focused on mapping buildings:
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33926879
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33978956
>
> Improving accuracy of existing buildings:
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/32524089
>
> Use of JOSM's validator:
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33135797
>
> Mass correction of crossing ways reported by JOSM's validator:
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33197285
> + check if all is well with todo plugin
>
> Fixing duplicate buildings (many of them):
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35983874
>
> Pasting tags on a changeset (from clipboard):
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/41511097
>
> Use of improve way accuracy tool (w) on a road in Uganda:
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/43661664
>
> Mapping an archeological site in Kyrghyzstan using Mapillary
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/45658771
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/45661736
>
> I hope this helps. Feel free to use these videos for learning and teaching
> purposes.
>
> Polyglot
>
>
>
> 2016-05-14 18:04 GMT+02:00 john whelan :
>
>> From sardiniaopend...@gmail.com on April 5th 2106
>>
>> So it looks doable with the right image on the USB stick.  John
>>
>> "
>> Dear HOT Team members
>>
>> my name is Claudia and I 'm writing on the behave on an italian
>> association called SardiniaOpenData. Since 2013  we are involved in free
>> training and mapping using OSM , related to our urban context and to the
>> humantarian world as I was deployed in Chad with you guys ( thanks again
>> for the opportunity ) .
>>
>> I'm writing to you because we finally manage to have a small finanincig
>> to organise a 3 modules course, to trainin citizens to map first using OSM,
>> secondly how to use  WheelMap   training the paraplegic
>> associationinCagliari . The second module will be about the Tasking Manager
>> and how to contribute to the remote mapping.
>>
>> We have planned 2 outside  mapping parties  to collect data and 3 indoor
>> lessons to teach them how does the Tasking works. The period will be May
>> 2016 . For the first year we manage to have free materials to offer to
>> ours attendants, expecially a personal  usb card with a free distribution
>> of Linux ( I think Ubuntu 14.04 lts ) with all the tools and programs
>> already installed, JOSM,website bookmarks concerning all the OSM world,
>> WkiOSM, LearnOSM, etc..
>>
>> We wanted to let you know about our training and to share our enthusiasm
>> . There will be some blog posts out soon , both in  english and italian.
>> If you will like to share it, all the team will be really happy.
>> If thereis  any specific task you'd like us to help , just let us know.
>> As I did with the last training , I will spend with great pleasure  15
>> minutes talking about the HOT Team and your amazing work.
>>
>> Have a great day and thaks again !
>>
>>
>> *The most dangerous thing to do is to stand still.“ William Burroughs *
>> We keep on moving !
>>
>> Claudia
>> Sardinia Open Data
>> twitter: @sard_opendata"
>>
>> On 14 May 2016 at 12:00, Enock Seth Nyamador  wrote:
>>
>>> > i had no luck booting my laptop into linux to use linux software, but
>>> I hear it works for a large % of people.
>>>
>>> Works in some cases provided java (JRE/JDK) is installed in the live
>>> boot.
>>>
>>> Since most people come along with their own laptops best solution is
>>> USB sticks with JRE and JOSM for various Operating Systems. Very practical.
>>> Learnt this from Severin Menard. :)
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>

Re: [HOT] Moving the focus to JOSM in mapathons

[Jo]

Hi,

Here you can find instructions for install portabableApps on a USB stick:
http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/java_portable

Then it's not necessary to reboot your computer into Linux. Nor is it
necessary to have administrator rights to run Java applications.

Regarding the use of JOSM for Mapathons. I've been trying to promote that
idea for a while now. If you want to learn how to configure JOSM and how to
use it to add buildings:

https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/profile/highlights

Setting up JOSM:
https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35769115

https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35256378
https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35258635
https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35261429
https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35262223

Mapping rectangular buildings:

Mapping a halter shaped building:
https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/34047877

Advanced mapping of building + complex roundabout:
https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33412245

Validation:

Validation of a task focused on mapping buildings:
https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33926879
https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33978956

Improving accuracy of existing buildings:
https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/32524089

Use of JOSM's validator:
https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33135797

Mass correction of crossing ways reported by JOSM's validator:
https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33197285
+ check if all is well with todo plugin

Fixing duplicate buildings (many of them):
https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35983874

Pasting tags on a changeset (from clipboard):
https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/41511097

Use of improve way accuracy tool (w) on a road in Uganda:
https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/43661664

Mapping an archeological site in Kyrghyzstan using Mapillary
https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/45658771
https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/45661736

I hope this helps. Feel free to use these videos for learning and teaching
purposes.

Polyglot



2016-05-14 18:04 GMT+02:00 john whelan :

> From sardiniaopend...@gmail.com on April 5th 2106
>
> So it looks doable with the right image on the USB stick.  John
>
> "
> Dear HOT Team members
>
> my name is Claudia and I 'm writing on the behave on an italian
> association called SardiniaOpenData. Since 2013  we are involved in free
> training and mapping using OSM , related to our urban context and to the
> humantarian world as I was deployed in Chad with you guys ( thanks again
> for the opportunity ) .
>
> I'm writing to you because we finally manage to have a small finanincig to
> organise a 3 modules course, to trainin citizens to map first using OSM,
> secondly how to use  WheelMap   training the paraplegic
> associationinCagliari . The second module will be about the Tasking Manager
> and how to contribute to the remote mapping.
>
> We have planned 2 outside  mapping parties  to collect data and 3 indoor
> lessons to teach them how does the Tasking works. The period will be May
> 2016 . For the first year we manage to have free materials to offer to
> ours attendants, expecially a personal  usb card with a free distribution
> of Linux ( I think Ubuntu 14.04 lts ) with all the tools and programs
> already installed, JOSM,website bookmarks concerning all the OSM world,
> WkiOSM, LearnOSM, etc..
>
> We wanted to let you know about our training and to share our enthusiasm .
> There will be some blog posts out soon , both in  english and italian.  If
> you will like to share it, all the team will be really happy.
> If thereis  any specific task you'd like us to help , just let us know. As
> I did with the last training , I will spend with great pleasure  15 minutes
> talking about the HOT Team and your amazing work.
>
> Have a great day and thaks again !
>
>
> *The most dangerous thing to do is to stand still.“ William Burroughs *
> We keep on moving !
>
> Claudia
> Sardinia Open Data
> twitter: @sard_opendata"
>
> On 14 May 2016 at 12:00, Enock Seth Nyamador  wrote:
>
>> > i had no luck booting my laptop into linux to use linux software, but I
>> hear it works for a large % of people.
>>
>> Works in some cases provided java (JRE/JDK) is installed in the live boot.
>>
>> Since most people come along with their own laptops best solution is  USB
>> sticks with JRE and JOSM for various Operating Systems. Very practical.
>> Learnt this from Severin Menard. :)
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> - Enock
>> UMaT, Tarkwa
>> enockseth.github.io
>>
>> On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Blake Girardot 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> What about the USB sticks? Those should be on hand so you can boot
>>> anyone into a Linux environment with the right java and latest josm if
>>> they were curious about josm but did not come expecting to try it or
>>> something?
>>>
>>> i had no luck booting my laptop into linux to use linux software, but
>>> I 

Re: [HOT] Moving the focus to JOSM in mapathons

[john whelan]

>From sardiniaopend...@gmail.com on April 5th 2106

So it looks doable with the right image on the USB stick.  John

"
Dear HOT Team members

my name is Claudia and I 'm writing on the behave on an italian association
called SardiniaOpenData. Since 2013  we are involved in free training and
mapping using OSM , related to our urban context and to the humantarian
world as I was deployed in Chad with you guys ( thanks again for the
opportunity ) .

I'm writing to you because we finally manage to have a small finanincig to
organise a 3 modules course, to trainin citizens to map first using OSM,
secondly how to use  WheelMap   training the paraplegic
associationinCagliari . The second module will be about the Tasking Manager
and how to contribute to the remote mapping.

We have planned 2 outside  mapping parties  to collect data and 3 indoor
lessons to teach them how does the Tasking works. The period will be May
2016 . For the first year we manage to have free materials to offer to
ours attendants, expecially a personal  usb card with a free distribution
of Linux ( I think Ubuntu 14.04 lts ) with all the tools and programs
already installed, JOSM,website bookmarks concerning all the OSM world,
WkiOSM, LearnOSM, etc..

We wanted to let you know about our training and to share our enthusiasm .
There will be some blog posts out soon , both in  english and italian.  If
you will like to share it, all the team will be really happy.
If thereis  any specific task you'd like us to help , just let us know. As
I did with the last training , I will spend with great pleasure  15 minutes
talking about the HOT Team and your amazing work.

Have a great day and thaks again !


*The most dangerous thing to do is to stand still.“ William Burroughs *
We keep on moving !

Claudia
Sardinia Open Data
twitter: @sard_opendata"

On 14 May 2016 at 12:00, Enock Seth Nyamador  wrote:

> > i had no luck booting my laptop into linux to use linux software, but I
> hear it works for a large % of people.
>
> Works in some cases provided java (JRE/JDK) is installed in the live boot.
>
> Since most people come along with their own laptops best solution is  USB
> sticks with JRE and JOSM for various Operating Systems. Very practical.
> Learnt this from Severin Menard. :)
>
> Best,
>
> - Enock
> UMaT, Tarkwa
> enockseth.github.io
>
> On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Blake Girardot 
> wrote:
>
>> What about the USB sticks? Those should be on hand so you can boot
>> anyone into a Linux environment with the right java and latest josm if
>> they were curious about josm but did not come expecting to try it or
>> something?
>>
>> i had no luck booting my laptop into linux to use linux software, but
>> I hear it works for a large % of people.
>>
>> This would also solve the "we are in a computer lab and can not get
>> permission to install java or josm on the machiens" issue as well.
>>
>> I am sure there is an image somewhere and someone could try and make
>> just a rough outline of the steps for our more tech savy people to try
>> and replicate.
>>
>> cheers
>> blake
>>
>> On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 3:39 PM, john whelan 
>> wrote:
>> > I think if we suggest they download Java before arriving,
>> josm-tested.jar
>> > can be copied for a USB stick or local server ie laptop.  I think that
>> would
>> > save bandwidth and trying to download multiple copies at the same time
>> would
>> > mean delays.
>> >
>> > Hopefully it works out.
>> >
>> > Thanks John
>> >
>> > On 14 May 2016 at 07:11, Pete Masters 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi all, over the past few weeks, some of the validation chat has
>> focused
>> >> on tools (iD / JOSM, generally). We made a decision at this month's
>> London
>> >> Missing Maps mapathon to try and put more of a focus on using JOSM,
>> rather
>> >> than iD. We're not sure how it went yet, but will continue to try and
>> >> develop this in future months.
>> >>
>> >> I have written a quick OSM diary on it, here:
>> >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/pedrito1414/diary/38604 If you have
>> >> comments, please feel free to leave them there. I am also going to
>> share it
>> >> with new mappers who were involved as they are generally not on this
>> list
>> >> and their thoughts could be interesting...
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >>
>> >> Pete
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Pete Masters
>> >> Missing Maps Project Coordinator
>> >> +44 7921 781 518
>> >>
>> >> missingmaps.org
>> >>
>> >> @pedrito1414
>> >> @theMissingMaps
>> >> facebook.com/MissingMapsProject
>> >>
>> >> ___
>> >> HOT mailing list
>> >> HOT@openstreetmap.org
>> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > ___
>> > HOT mailing list
>> > HOT@openstreetmap.org
>> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
>> >
>>
>> ___
>> HOT mailing list
>> HOT@openstreetmap.org
>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
>>
>
>

Re: [HOT] Moving the focus to JOSM in mapathons

[Enock Seth Nyamador]

> i had no luck booting my laptop into linux to use linux software, but I
hear it works for a large % of people.

Works in some cases provided java (JRE/JDK) is installed in the live boot.

Since most people come along with their own laptops best solution is  USB
sticks with JRE and JOSM for various Operating Systems. Very practical.
Learnt this from Severin Menard. :)

Best,

- Enock
UMaT, Tarkwa
enockseth.github.io

On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Blake Girardot  wrote:

> What about the USB sticks? Those should be on hand so you can boot
> anyone into a Linux environment with the right java and latest josm if
> they were curious about josm but did not come expecting to try it or
> something?
>
> i had no luck booting my laptop into linux to use linux software, but
> I hear it works for a large % of people.
>
> This would also solve the "we are in a computer lab and can not get
> permission to install java or josm on the machiens" issue as well.
>
> I am sure there is an image somewhere and someone could try and make
> just a rough outline of the steps for our more tech savy people to try
> and replicate.
>
> cheers
> blake
>
> On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 3:39 PM, john whelan 
> wrote:
> > I think if we suggest they download Java before arriving, josm-tested.jar
> > can be copied for a USB stick or local server ie laptop.  I think that
> would
> > save bandwidth and trying to download multiple copies at the same time
> would
> > mean delays.
> >
> > Hopefully it works out.
> >
> > Thanks John
> >
> > On 14 May 2016 at 07:11, Pete Masters 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all, over the past few weeks, some of the validation chat has focused
> >> on tools (iD / JOSM, generally). We made a decision at this month's
> London
> >> Missing Maps mapathon to try and put more of a focus on using JOSM,
> rather
> >> than iD. We're not sure how it went yet, but will continue to try and
> >> develop this in future months.
> >>
> >> I have written a quick OSM diary on it, here:
> >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/pedrito1414/diary/38604 If you have
> >> comments, please feel free to leave them there. I am also going to
> share it
> >> with new mappers who were involved as they are generally not on this
> list
> >> and their thoughts could be interesting...
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Pete
> >>
> >> --
> >> Pete Masters
> >> Missing Maps Project Coordinator
> >> +44 7921 781 518
> >>
> >> missingmaps.org
> >>
> >> @pedrito1414
> >> @theMissingMaps
> >> facebook.com/MissingMapsProject
> >>
> >> ___
> >> HOT mailing list
> >> HOT@openstreetmap.org
> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
> >>
> >
> >
> > ___
> > HOT mailing list
> > HOT@openstreetmap.org
> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
> >
>
> ___
> HOT mailing list
> HOT@openstreetmap.org
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
>
___
HOT mailing list
HOT@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot

Re: [HOT] Moving the focus to JOSM in mapathons

[john whelan]

There was a post on HOT some time ago where someone had done this as part
of a maperthon somewhere in Africa or Asia but I can't recall the details.

Cheerio John
On 14 May 2016 11:43 am, "Blake Girardot"  wrote:

> What about the USB sticks? Those should be on hand so you can boot
> anyone into a Linux environment with the right java and latest josm if
> they were curious about josm but did not come expecting to try it or
> something?
>
> i had no luck booting my laptop into linux to use linux software, but
> I hear it works for a large % of people.
>
> This would also solve the "we are in a computer lab and can not get
> permission to install java or josm on the machiens" issue as well.
>
> I am sure there is an image somewhere and someone could try and make
> just a rough outline of the steps for our more tech savy people to try
> and replicate.
>
> cheers
> blake
>
> On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 3:39 PM, john whelan 
> wrote:
> > I think if we suggest they download Java before arriving, josm-tested.jar
> > can be copied for a USB stick or local server ie laptop.  I think that
> would
> > save bandwidth and trying to download multiple copies at the same time
> would
> > mean delays.
> >
> > Hopefully it works out.
> >
> > Thanks John
> >
> > On 14 May 2016 at 07:11, Pete Masters 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all, over the past few weeks, some of the validation chat has focused
> >> on tools (iD / JOSM, generally). We made a decision at this month's
> London
> >> Missing Maps mapathon to try and put more of a focus on using JOSM,
> rather
> >> than iD. We're not sure how it went yet, but will continue to try and
> >> develop this in future months.
> >>
> >> I have written a quick OSM diary on it, here:
> >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/pedrito1414/diary/38604 If you have
> >> comments, please feel free to leave them there. I am also going to
> share it
> >> with new mappers who were involved as they are generally not on this
> list
> >> and their thoughts could be interesting...
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Pete
> >>
> >> --
> >> Pete Masters
> >> Missing Maps Project Coordinator
> >> +44 7921 781 518
> >>
> >> missingmaps.org
> >>
> >> @pedrito1414
> >> @theMissingMaps
> >> facebook.com/MissingMapsProject
> >>
> >> ___
> >> HOT mailing list
> >> HOT@openstreetmap.org
> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
> >>
> >
> >
> > ___
> > HOT mailing list
> > HOT@openstreetmap.org
> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
> >
>
___
HOT mailing list
HOT@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot

Re: [HOT] Moving the focus to JOSM in mapathons

[Blake Girardot]

What about the USB sticks? Those should be on hand so you can boot
anyone into a Linux environment with the right java and latest josm if
they were curious about josm but did not come expecting to try it or
something?

i had no luck booting my laptop into linux to use linux software, but
I hear it works for a large % of people.

This would also solve the "we are in a computer lab and can not get
permission to install java or josm on the machiens" issue as well.

I am sure there is an image somewhere and someone could try and make
just a rough outline of the steps for our more tech savy people to try
and replicate.

cheers
blake

On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 3:39 PM, john whelan  wrote:
> I think if we suggest they download Java before arriving, josm-tested.jar
> can be copied for a USB stick or local server ie laptop.  I think that would
> save bandwidth and trying to download multiple copies at the same time would
> mean delays.
>
> Hopefully it works out.
>
> Thanks John
>
> On 14 May 2016 at 07:11, Pete Masters  wrote:
>>
>> Hi all, over the past few weeks, some of the validation chat has focused
>> on tools (iD / JOSM, generally). We made a decision at this month's London
>> Missing Maps mapathon to try and put more of a focus on using JOSM, rather
>> than iD. We're not sure how it went yet, but will continue to try and
>> develop this in future months.
>>
>> I have written a quick OSM diary on it, here:
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/pedrito1414/diary/38604 If you have
>> comments, please feel free to leave them there. I am also going to share it
>> with new mappers who were involved as they are generally not on this list
>> and their thoughts could be interesting...
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Pete
>>
>> --
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>> Missing Maps Project Coordinator
>> +44 7921 781 518
>>
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[john whelan]

I think if we suggest they download Java before arriving, josm-tested.jar
can be copied for a USB stick or local server ie laptop.  I think that
would save bandwidth and trying to download multiple copies at the same
time would mean delays.

Hopefully it works out.

Thanks John

On 14 May 2016 at 07:11, Pete Masters  wrote:

> Hi all, over the past few weeks, some of the validation chat has focused
> on tools (iD / JOSM, generally). We made a decision at this month's London
> Missing Maps mapathon to try and put more of a focus on using JOSM, rather
> than iD. We're not sure how it went yet, but will continue to try and
> develop this in future months.
>
> I have written a quick OSM diary on it, here:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/pedrito1414/diary/38604 If you have
> comments, please feel free to leave them there. I am also going to share it
> with new mappers who were involved as they are generally not on this list
> and their thoughts could be interesting...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Pete
>
> --
> *Pete Masters*
> Missing Maps Project Coordinator
> +44 7921 781 518
>
> missingmaps.org 
>
> *@pedrito1414* 
> *@theMissingMaps* 
> *facebook.com/MissingMapsProject*
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[HOT] Moving the focus to JOSM in mapathons

[Pete Masters]

Hi all, over the past few weeks, some of the validation chat has focused on
tools (iD / JOSM, generally). We made a decision at this month's London
Missing Maps mapathon to try and put more of a focus on using JOSM, rather
than iD. We're not sure how it went yet, but will continue to try and
develop this in future months.

I have written a quick OSM diary on it, here:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/pedrito1414/diary/38604 If you have
comments, please feel free to leave them there. I am also going to share it
with new mappers who were involved as they are generally not on this list
and their thoughts could be interesting...

Cheers,

Pete

-- 
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Missing Maps Project Coordinator
+44 7921 781 518

missingmaps.org 

*@pedrito1414* 
*@theMissingMaps* 
*facebook.com/MissingMapsProject*

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