Re: [Hpr] HPR Policy Change - HTML default in RSS Feed

[Ken Fallon]

On 2016-05-15 22:50, Matt McGraw wrote:
> In PodKicker Pro for Android, the HTML mp3 feed works as expected. The
> HTML ogg feed does not show any shows in the feed. The application
> recognizes the feed as a feed but does not display any shows. Can
> anybody else confirm? Device is an LG G3 on Sprint with Android ver
> 5.0.1, kernel 3.4
> 
> Matt
> geekdad
> 

If it's a Sprint LG G3 Vigor™ then it should support the following audio
formats: AAC FLAC M4A MP3 MP4 OGG WAV WMA. So can you manually download
a ogg file from the site and play it.

I don't see anywhere that PodKicker Pro for Android supports ogg.

It may be that it will rely on the audio supported by your phone.

Have you been able to subscribe to other oggcasts and if so please send
me the url to them.


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Re: [Hpr] HPR Policy Change - HTML default in RSS Feed

[Matt McGraw]

In PodKicker Pro for Android, the HTML mp3 feed works as expected. The HTML
ogg feed does not show any shows in the feed. The application recognizes
the feed as a feed but does not display any shows. Can anybody else
confirm? Device is an LG G3 on Sprint with Android ver 5.0.1, kernel 3.4

Matt
geekdad

On May 15, 2016 10:19 AM, "Ken Fallon"  wrote:
>
> On 2016-05-14 10:09, Andrés Muñiz Piniella wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Can people with failing podcatchers please try the mp3 feed.
> >>
> >> For the mp3 feed please try
> >> http://hackerpublicradio.org/rss.php?html=1=mp3
> >>
> >> FYI
> >> For the ogg feed please try
> >> http://hackerpublicradio.org/rss.php?html=1=ogg
> >>
> >
> >
> > Tried both with antennapod(f-droid). No pictures on the young engineers
cast.
> >
> > As a comparison, Html works fine on cc-hits cast. Hyperlinks, qr codes
and buttons to like tracks.
> >
>
> OK this is related to issues with how antennapod is using
> /rss/channel/item/itunes:summary
> and not
> /rss/channel/item/duration
>
> Back in the day iTunes did not allow html in their summary and so it's
> stripped out. Also summary is limited to 4000 characters.
>
> Why antennapod is using this field when it's clearly not iTunes is
> beyond me.
>
> OK Let's revise the question to whether html feeds still work - by that
> I mean that there are podcasts been delivered.
>
> After we discover that then we can focus on debugging these issues.
>
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>
> Ken Fallon
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Re: [Hpr] HPR Policy Change - HTML default in RSS Feed

[Ken Fallon]

On 2016-05-14 10:09, Andrés Muñiz Piniella wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>>
>> Can people with failing podcatchers please try the mp3 feed.
>>
>> For the mp3 feed please try
>> http://hackerpublicradio.org/rss.php?html=1=mp3
>>
>> FYI
>> For the ogg feed please try
>> http://hackerpublicradio.org/rss.php?html=1=ogg
>>
> 
> 
> Tried both with antennapod(f-droid). No pictures on the young engineers cast. 
> 
> As a comparison, Html works fine on cc-hits cast. Hyperlinks, qr codes and 
> buttons to like tracks.
> 

OK this is related to issues with how antennapod is using
/rss/channel/item/itunes:summary
and not
/rss/channel/item/duration

Back in the day iTunes did not allow html in their summary and so it's
stripped out. Also summary is limited to 4000 characters.

Why antennapod is using this field when it's clearly not iTunes is
beyond me.

OK Let's revise the question to whether html feeds still work - by that
I mean that there are podcasts been delivered.

After we discover that then we can focus on debugging these issues.

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Re: [Hpr] HPR Policy Change - HTML default in RSS Feed

[Andrés Muñiz Piniella]

>
>Can people with failing podcatchers please try the mp3 feed.
>
>For the mp3 feed please try
>http://hackerpublicradio.org/rss.php?html=1=mp3
>
>FYI
>For the ogg feed please try
>http://hackerpublicradio.org/rss.php?html=1=ogg
>


Tried both with antennapod(f-droid). No pictures on the young engineers cast. 

As a comparison, Html works fine on cc-hits cast. Hyperlinks, qr codes and 
buttons to like tracks.
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Re: [Hpr] HPR Policy Change - HTML default in RSS Feed

[Matt McGraw]

Tried mp3 and ogg feeds in PodKicker Pro for Android. The mp3 feed works,
the ogg feed doesn't. I know this is not an issue of ogg not being
supported because I subscribe to several podcasts in ogg format. Not sure
what the issue is, tho
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Re: [Hpr] HPR Policy Change - HTML default in RSS Feed

[Ken Fallon]

On 2016-05-11 14:30, Carl D Hamann wrote:
> 
> On May 10, 2016 4:39 AM, "Ken Fallon"  > wrote:
>>
>> Can you all please assist with testing the feeds
>> http://hackerpublicradio.org/rss.php?html=1=ogg
>>
> 
> Confirmed correct display in RssDemon for Android, it downloads the
> enclosure, but I'm unable to verify playback because it only supports
> mp3. Should type=mp3 work?
> 

Very good point.

Can people with failing podcatchers please try the mp3 feed.

For the mp3 feed please try
http://hackerpublicradio.org/rss.php?html=1=mp3

FYI
For the ogg feed please try
http://hackerpublicradio.org/rss.php?html=1=ogg

For the spx feed please try
http://hackerpublicradio.org/rss.php?html=1=spx


> In newsbeuter, I get  text show notes and the
> enclosure has a .spx extension (though it claims a media type of ogg) no
> matter what I specify in type=

spx is of media type ogg vorbis so that is correct.

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Re: [Hpr] HPR Policy Change - HTML default in RSS Feed

[Carl D Hamann]

On May 10, 2016 4:39 AM, "Ken Fallon"  wrote:
>
> Can you all please assist with testing the feeds
> http://hackerpublicradio.org/rss.php?html=1=ogg
>

Confirmed correct display in RssDemon for Android, it downloads the
enclosure, but I'm unable to verify playback because it only supports mp3.
Should type=mp3 work?

In newsbeuter, I get  text show notes and the
enclosure has a .spx extension (though it claims a media type of ogg) no
matter what I specify in type=
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Re: [Hpr] HPR Policy Change - HTML default in RSS Feed

[Curtis Adkins]

On 05/10/2016 05:37 AM, Ken Fallon wrote:

On 2016-05-07 17:17, Ken Fallon wrote:

Hi All,

This is a proposal to change the default RSS feed from Plain Text to
support HTML. This decision needs to be taken by you the community and
will also be discussed on the community news.


Can you all please assist with testing the feeds
http://hackerpublicradio.org/rss.php?html=1=ogg

Currently confirmed working with:
- podget
- gPodder
- Akregator



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Working with BeyondPod as well.
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Re: [Hpr] HPR Policy Change - HTML default in RSS Feed

[Ken Fallon]

On 2016-05-07 17:17, Ken Fallon wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> This is a proposal to change the default RSS feed from Plain Text to
> support HTML. This decision needs to be taken by you the community and
> will also be discussed on the community news.
> 

Can you all please assist with testing the feeds
http://hackerpublicradio.org/rss.php?html=1=ogg

Currently confirmed working with:
- podget
- gPodder
- Akregator

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Re: [Hpr] HPR Policy Change - HTML default in RSS Feed

[Christopher M. Hobbs]

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On Sat, 7 May 2016 17:17:26 +0200
Ken Fallon  wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> This is a proposal to change the default RSS feed from Plain Text to
> support HTML. This decision needs to be taken by you the community and
> will also be discussed on the community news.
> 
> Current situation:
> The RSS feeds do not have html in the show notes.
> 
> Reasoning:
> It has become commonplace to include html in show notes so that
> podcast clients can display images, and click on links. It would mean
> that we would no longer need to display the entire url as the link,
> making it more user friendly.
> 
> Risks:
> podcast clients may not support html and fail to download the show.
> 
> Testing:
> http://hackerpublicradio.org/rss.php?html=1=ogg
> 
> As always silence = approval.
> 

It's worth a shot!
cmh

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Re: [Hpr] HPR Policy Change - HTML default in RSS Feed

[stankd...@stankdawg.com]

I think this is long overdue. 

Sent from my iPhone.

> On May 7, 2016, at 11:17 AM, Ken Fallon  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> This is a proposal to change the default RSS feed from Plain Text to
> support HTML. This decision needs to be taken by you the community and
> will also be discussed on the community news.
> 
> Current situation:
> The RSS feeds do not have html in the show notes.
> 
> Reasoning:
> It has become commonplace to include html in show notes so that podcast
> clients can display images, and click on links. It would mean that we
> would no longer need to display the entire url as the link, making it
> more user friendly.
> 
> Risks:
> podcast clients may not support html and fail to download the show.
> 
> Testing:
> http://hackerpublicradio.org/rss.php?html=1=ogg
> 
> As always silence = approval.
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> 
> Ken Fallon
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Re: [Hpr] HPR Policy Change - HTML default in RSS Feed

[Carl D Hamann]

On May 7, 2016 10:18 AM, "Ken Fallon"  wrote:
> This is a proposal to change the default RSS feed from Plain Text to
> support HTML. This decision needs to be taken by you the community and
> will also be discussed on the community news.

I think this is an excellent idea.

> Risks:
> podcast clients may not support html and fail to download the show.

As long as it is well-formed xml, even the most finicky of parsers ought to
handle it fine.
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Re: [Hpr] HPR Policy Change - HTML default in RSS Feed

[Jonathan Kulp]

On May 7, 2016, at 10:17 AM, Ken Fallon  wrote:
> 
> This is a proposal to change the default RSS feed from Plain Text to
> support HTML. This decision needs to be taken by you the community and
> will also be discussed on the community news.
> 

Completely onboard with this. Yes!

Jonathan 

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Re: [Hpr] HPR Policy Change - HTML default in RSS Feed

[Kevin Wisher]

I hope this does not effect python & bash based podcatchers like podget,
bashpodder, mashpodder, etc.

On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Ken Fallon  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> This is a proposal to change the default RSS feed from Plain Text to
> support HTML. This decision needs to be taken by you the community and
> will also be discussed on the community news.
>
> Current situation:
> The RSS feeds do not have html in the show notes.
>
> Reasoning:
> It has become commonplace to include html in show notes so that podcast
> clients can display images, and click on links. It would mean that we
> would no longer need to display the entire url as the link, making it
> more user friendly.
>
> Risks:
> podcast clients may not support html and fail to download the show.
>
> Testing:
> http://hackerpublicradio.org/rss.php?html=1=ogg
>
> As always silence = approval.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Ken Fallon
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