[hugin-ptx] Re: GSoC2009
Please, I think the BASIC thing hugin needs is an updated website. The first problem is that when somebody wants to install it, even on windows, he steps on old unupdated versions, when luckyly find the compiled exes. Ubuntu debian self installing thing seems old. It completely lacks clear instructions on how to install what. Never seen the new updated interface. Does it exist? How is integration of old things? Please, the first act should be reorganization of knowledge and concepts. It is 3 years I'm lost to hugin, I've no clue on how to do things out of basic ones cause I can't access knowledge base on my own... I hope I'm not the only one, cause means my stupidity is growing with age. dmg ha scritto: I'd like to solve the problems I'm encountering as part of Summer of Code. Specifically, I'd like to introduce a mosaic mode to Hugin. This will require the development of the geometric framework to project from the mosaic image viewpoints to that of an orthographic view of the entire painting. I propose calculating the warp using a homography, applying the calculated mapping, and projecting the result to the orthographic viewpoint. A homography estimation algorithm developed in C by Lourakis will provide the required homography matrix calculations. I have added this to the list of projects. this should be done primarily in panotools. I think that it is highly related to allowing shift in the camera's location, so those two projects should be combined. I am probably the potential mentor for this (panotools particularly). -- IUAV università degli studi, Venezia Dr. Luca Vascon tel . (+39) 041.2571262, e-mail vas...@iuav.it laboratorio multimedia Facoltà di Design e Arti, DADI Magazzino 7 ex Ligabue, Dorsoduro 1827 30123 Venezia --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[hugin-ptx] Re: GSoC2009
With regards to ubuntu. I build hugin svn regularly and post them to http://tatteredmoons.org/hugin_svn.html with the dependencies needed and instructions to install them. I've also began testing them before posting any new debs. Currently the debs listed are only for the 8.04.1 release, as it's the latest stable long term release. I do have 8.10 debs, but have not had a chance to seperate the web pages this week into two seperate versions. I only build i386 because of comaptibilty. I also make an effort to look over the wiki (ubuntu) and make corrections when needed. I too have been considering restructing that part of the wiki to make it clearer to understand to the average user (me). I've been considering writing a manual in scribus now that I know how to use scribus, and would love your help. Help can be questions that may seem non smart, because I do understand a user's prespective and understand there are no dumb questions. You too can download and use scribus and I'd be willing to work with you as a collabartive effort if you choose. I do believe that hugin needs to move foward, and am happy to see what's being listed for GSOC. Drop me a note privately if you want help. I'm only a user, but I'm sure I can help you through it. Dale Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:07:18 +0100 From: vas...@iuav.it To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com Subject: [hugin-ptx] Re: GSoC2009 Please, I think the BASIC thing hugin needs is an updated website. The first problem is that when somebody wants to install it, even on windows, he steps on old unupdated versions, when luckyly find the compiled exes. Ubuntu debian self installing thing seems old. It completely lacks clear instructions on how to install what. Never seen the new updated interface. Does it exist? How is integration of old things? Please, the first act should be reorganization of knowledge and concepts. It is 3 years I'm lost to hugin, I've no clue on how to do things out of basic ones cause I can't access knowledge base on my own... I hope I'm not the only one, cause means my stupidity is growing with age. dmg ha scritto: I'd like to solve the problems I'm encountering as part of Summer of Code. Specifically, I'd like to introduce a mosaic mode to Hugin. This will require the development of the geometric framework to project from the mosaic image viewpoints to that of an orthographic view of the entire painting. I propose calculating the warp using a homography, applying the calculated mapping, and projecting the result to the orthographic viewpoint. A homography estimation algorithm developed in C by Lourakis will provide the required homography matrix calculations. I have added this to the list of projects. this should be done primarily in panotools. I think that it is highly related to allowing shift in the camera's location, so those two projects should be combined. I am probably the potential mentor for this (panotools particularly). -- IUAV università degli studi, Venezia Dr. Luca Vascon tel . (+39) 041.2571262, e-mail vas...@iuav.it laboratorio multimedia Facoltà di Design e Arti, DADI Magazzino 7 ex Ligabue, Dorsoduro 1827 30123 Venezia _ Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[hugin-ptx] Re: GSoC2009
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:07:18 +0100 From: vas...@iuav.it To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com Subject: [hugin-ptx] Re: GSoC2009 Please, I think the BASIC thing hugin needs is an updated website. The first problem is that when somebody wants to install it, even on windows, he steps on old unupdated versions, when luckyly find the compiled exes. Ubuntu debian self installing thing seems old. It completely lacks clear instructions on how to install what. Never seen the new updated interface. Does it exist? How is integration of old things? Please, the first act should be reorganization of knowledge and concepts. It is 3 years I'm lost to hugin, I've no clue on how to do things out of basic ones cause I can't access knowledge base on my own... I hope I'm not the only one, cause means my stupidity is growing with age. Well indeed it might be a good thing to make things easier for beginners. Well the first good step was with the 0.7 version on windows where the installer had everything in it, so there was no need to go download exes on other websites. Also the website has been updated (more tutorials and documentation). I feel it's quite easy to browse through it, but users want things to be simple and usually don't like reading manuals ^^ So it could be good to add some more explanations in the forms in hugin, cuz at first you don't really know what to do with all those tabs. If there are things you don't know or understand how to do, just ask! That's how we can make things even better, and there are probably other people who are just like you, a little bit lost! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[hugin-ptx] Re: GSoC2009
Hello Bruno, When you say that masking to put one object in-front of another is never going to be done in hugin, this is a job for an image editor ... I'm thinking that this would actually be a great feature to be included in hugin, because it would allow to do everything (quickly) in pre-processing instead of post-processing, and still have the benefit of the blending step. Just to make sure we are talking about the same thing, I understand this topic is all about what should be included or not included in image seams. Now maybe I'm missing something, but if the steps performed once you press the stitch now button are : - remapping images - remapping masks - applying masks to remapped images - blending remapped images ... then for the two cases you mentioned : 1. masking out objects that you don't want to appear in the scene. = the mask is applied to one image only (the one from which you want to mask out the objects) 2. masking to put one object in-front of another. = the mask is applied to all images but one (the one from which you want to keep the objects) Cheers, Adrien On Mar 19, 8:13 pm, Bruno Postle br...@postle.net wrote: On Thu 19-Mar-2009 at 17:31 +0100, Serge Droz wrote: Getting a simple masking gui into hugin would be awesome. Ok, I wrote something on the wiki: http://wiki.panotools.org/SoC_2009_idea#Simple_mask_editing Everyone else, now is a good time to mention all those good ideas for hugin features. -- Bruno --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[hugin-ptx] Re: GSoC2009
Hello Bruno, When you say that masking to put one object in-front of another is never going to be done in hugin, this is a job for an image editor ... I'm thinking that this would actually be a great feature to be included in hugin, because it would allow to do everything (quickly) in pre-processing instead of post-processing, and still have the benefit of the blending step. Just to make sure we are talking about the same thing, I understand this mask editing topic is all (and only) about what should be included or not included in image seams. Now maybe I'm missing something, but if the steps performed once you press the stitch now button are: - remapping images - remapping masks - applying masks to remapped images - blending masked remapped images .. then for the two cases you mentioned: 1. masking out objects that you don't want to appear in the scene. = the mask is applied to one image only (the one from which you want to mask out the objects) 2. masking to put one object in-front of another. = the mask is applied to all images but one (the one from which you want to keep the objects) Cheers, Adrien On Mar 19, 8:13 pm, Bruno Postle br...@postle.net wrote: On Thu 19-Mar-2009 at 17:31 +0100, Serge Droz wrote: Getting a simple masking gui into hugin would be awesome. Ok, I wrote something on the wiki: http://wiki.panotools.org/SoC_2009_idea#Simple_mask_editing Everyone else, now is a good time to mention all those good ideas for hugin features. -- Bruno --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[hugin-ptx] Re: GSoC2009
Hi guys! I'm a Msc CS student in the inter disciplinary center in Herzliya, Israel. My main interests are image processing, 2nd graphics and computational photography. from the short description in the GSoC site about this project it seems that I will be able to contribute to it, and would actually be happy to do so :) unfortunately I cannot see the wiki of the project since it has been down for almost all day long, and cannot see what are the suggested projects Ideas. are the projects that you are looking for are mainly environment (like phyton bindings etc,) and gui, or are you interested in students to implement all kinds of advanced computational algorithms? Thank you! Irena On Mar 22, 7:40 pm, RizThon rizt...@gmail.com wrote: Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:07:18 +0100 From: vas...@iuav.it To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com Subject: [hugin-ptx] Re: GSoC2009 Please, I think the BASIC thing hugin needs is an updated website. The first problem is that when somebody wants to install it, even on windows, he steps on old unupdated versions, when luckyly find the compiled exes. Ubuntu debian self installing thing seems old. It completely lacks clear instructions on how to install what. Never seen the new updated interface. Does it exist? How is integration of old things? Please, the first act should be reorganization of knowledge and concepts. It is 3 years I'm lost to hugin, I've no clue on how to do things out of basic ones cause I can't access knowledge base on my own... I hope I'm not the only one, cause means my stupidity is growing with age. Well indeed it might be a good thing to make things easier for beginners. Well the first good step was with the 0.7 version on windows where the installer had everything in it, so there was no need to go download exes on other websites. Also the website has been updated (more tutorials and documentation). I feel it's quite easy to browse through it, but users want things to be simple and usually don't like reading manuals ^^ So it could be good to add some more explanations in the forms in hugin, cuz at first you don't really know what to do with all those tabs. If there are things you don't know or understand how to do, just ask! That's how we can make things even better, and there are probably other people who are just like you, a little bit lost! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[hugin-ptx] Re: Fine-tune and wide-angle lenses.
On Sat 21-Mar-2009 at 14:40 +, Peter Gawthrop wrote: As far as I know, Fine-Tune is unaware of lens effects. If so, it seem that the general solution would be to make Fine-Tune aware of the lens and, for example, map the two small areas used by Fine-Tune to the centre of the image for processing and then map back again. Yes this is a known bug, fine-tune currently doesn't work so well around the edges of wide images due to 'stretching' distortion. A related bug is that it doesn't work with images at different resolutions - The edges of photos are scaled differently to the centres. -- Bruno --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[hugin-ptx] Re: GSoC2009
On Sun 22-Mar-2009 at 17:07 +0100, Luca Vascon wrote: Please, I think the BASIC thing hugin needs is an updated website. The first problem is that when somebody wants to install it, even on windows, he steps on old unupdated versions, when luckyly find the compiled exes. Ubuntu debian self installing thing seems old. The ubuntu instructions are really for people who _want_ to compile their own. The way it should work for everyone else is that the distribution provides the binaries - i.e. hugin is part of ubuntu and you don't need to download anything from the hugin website. This situation isn't how it should be, we need more regular releases of hugin and related tools, and Linux distributions should be prompted to fix the stuff they do supply. -- Bruno --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
