[hugin-ptx] Re: enblend algorithm

2009-06-23 Thread Andrew Mihal

Hi,
The vertex state space is already restricted to the perpendicular
lines as you suggest. When the initial seam line bends, these state
space lines tend to intersect, which leads to geometrically
uninteresting solutions where the seam line doubles back on itself.
Addressing this issue would be a good start. One of the motivations
for choosing annealing was the ability to encode more complex
optimization criteria into the costfunction, like a penalty for seams
that have self-intersections, or are too straight, or too curvy, or
reduce the enclosed area of a closed contour by too much, etc. The
current implementation is very rudimentary, both in the costfunction
implementation and the annealer itself. I would put more time into it
if I had any to spare.

Andrew

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 1:06 AM,
r.e.wolff wrote:
>
> On Jun 14, 8:12 am, Andrew Mihal  wrote:
>> The seam line optimization uses a two-step approach influenced by
>> research on active contours. The overlap region between an image pair
>> is treated as a cost function. Areas of disagreement and areas outside
>> the intersection region have high cost. First, the result of the
>> nearest feature transform is vectorized into a polyline, and a
>> generalized deterministic annealing algorithm is used to adjust the
>> vertex positions to optimize the cost of the line. The line is
>> penalized for crossing areas of high cost and vertices are penalized
>> for moving far from their initial positions in the center of the
>> overlap region. Second, Dijkstra's shortest path algorithm is used to
>> fill in the exact seam line between polyline vertices.
>
> Hmm. I worked on "real time minimimum cost contour detection" in
> '92-'95. Why the annealing, there is an algorithm that will give you
> the
> exact minimum cost.
>
> I would take the initial seam line. take lines perpendicular to this
> line
> and along this line I'd sample the cost function. A parabolic function
> for "distance from the original seam", and some function for the
> difference
> between the two images. Preferably the number of points on those
> perpendicular lines are always the same. This gives a rectangular
> matrix
> of cost points. Now, for every point in the matrix, you have three
> options of getting there from the line above. diagonal from the left
> diagonal from the right, or straight down. If you move down the matrix
> this way, you'll find the minimum cost from top to bottom through the
> matrix, which transforms to a line more or less parallel to the
> initial
> seam.
> >
>

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Clouds in hi resolution pano (Celeste 2.0?)

2009-06-23 Thread Yuval Levy

Hi Ryan,

rlhelinski wrote:
> IMHO it would require the user creating a
> mask for each image so that the tools can treat the different regions
> separately, perhaps by using alpha channels. Perhaps this could be
> manifested in something like the fuzzy select tool in the GIMP.

may be a good idea too, although if Celeste can provide the masks (it 
does already, and although not as fine as needed, they may be a good 
starting point for some magic-wand-like tool), why do it manually?


> Also, think of the boundary conditions that could be a show stopper
> for something like this. What if you move the sky in the second row to
> line up with the first row, but you end up with an area for which you
> have no information. In the screenshot, I think this area would be to
> the left. What should the tool do then?

there will be inevitably such areas, e.g. when the sky has moved behind 
a static object (such as the clock-tower in the example). Leaving the 
empty area for human to fill with an image editor is what comes to my 
mind as one option.

some manual touch up will be inevitable, the goal is not to eliminate 
manual intervention, but to reduce it - from what it is currently (a lot 
of shifting and editing all across the seam and around the border of 
static objects) to something less (e.g. only around the border of static 
objects, and maybe some refining of masks).

Yuv

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Problem with installation of Hugin on Ubuntu

2009-06-23 Thread Seb Perez-D

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 19:33, Bruno Postle wrote:
> Maybe someone else can test with their own VNC setup.  hugin used to
> work ok via VNC, though I haven't tried recently.

Done, I tested under Linux and can confirm that Hugin cannot run under
VNC. The error message is the same and the backtrace is
#0  0x7fa81277051d in wxWindow::DoSetSize ()
   from /usr/lib/libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0
#1  0x7fa812852c02 in wxGridSizer::SetItemBounds ()
   from /usr/lib/libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0
#2  0x7fa8128542f9 in wxFlexGridSizer::RecalcSizes ()
   from /usr/lib/libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0
#3  0x7fa812853215 in wxBoxSizer::RecalcSizes ()
   from /usr/lib/libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0
#4  0x0051ee52 in GLPreviewFrame::panoramaChanged ()
#5  0x00479d99 in PT::PanoramaObserver::panoramaChanged ()
#6  0x7fa81558cc25 in HuginBase::Panorama::changeFinished (this=0x206d5b8,
keepDirty=false)
at /home/seb/downloads/hugin/src/hugin_base/panodata/Panorama.cpp:1034
#7  0x004706e4 in huginApp::OnInit ()
#8  0x7fa812c23a63 in wxEntry () from /usr/lib/libwx_baseu-2.8.so.0
#9  0x0046da82 in main ()

Cheers,

Seb

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[hugin-ptx] Re: hugin-0.8.0_rc4 released

2009-06-23 Thread Harry van der Wolf
Hi Lukas,

I built the RC4 which comes as a "fresh" tar.gz. I have automatically a
clean build.

2009/6/23 Lukáš Jirkovský 

>
> Quick grep on sources also reveals that there is
> GCC_PREPROCESSOR_DEFINITIONS = "HAVE_LAPACK=1"; in
> ./mac/Hugin.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj. I don't know how that xcode
> thing works, but I guess it does exactly the same what CMake does when
> LAPACK is enabled, ie. it tells preprocessor that this macro is
> defined. So I'd try removing it from XCode project or setting it to 0.
>

you are absolutely right. I added this just before committing some exiv2
changes to the trunk. Thanks for paying better attention than I did.

I'm on a business trip for a couple of days so I can't test right now, but
this is it for sure.

Harry

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Panini version 0.70 released

2009-06-23 Thread Tom Sharpless

Was not valid.  May be valid now :->

I did it because Peter Gawthrop asked for recentering, and it seemed
so easy to add that I had not the heart to refuse...

Best, Tom

On Jun 23, 1:07 pm, Alexandre Prokoudine
 wrote:
> On Jun 20, 4:18 am, Tom Sharpless  wrote:
>
> > A new version of the Panini pano viewer and perspective tool is
> > available athttps://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=241632.
>
> Great! So the "this release is last release of Panini in its current
> form" plan is no longer valid? :)
>
> Alexandre
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[hugin-ptx] Re: Problem with installation of Hugin on Ubuntu

2009-06-23 Thread Bruno Postle

On Tue 23-Jun-2009 at 07:27 -0700, Andrii wrote:
>
>> From your description of using VNCviewer, and the error message, it
>> seems the problem could be caused by the OpenGL preview in Hugin. Can
>> you run "glxgears" ? (you might need to install a package for this, I
>> cannot check right now)

>vi...@virgo4:~$ glxgears
>Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":1.0".
>Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual

glxgears is the basic tool to test if 3D is working.  It should run 
in some fashion, if it doesn't then hugin isn't likely to work 
either.

Maybe someone else can test with their own VNC setup.  hugin used to 
work ok via VNC, though I haven't tried recently.

-- 
Bruno

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[hugin-ptx] [GSoC:2009] QTVR test cases for VLC

2009-06-23 Thread Leon Moctezuma
Hi all,

I'm León a student working on VLC media player, I need some qtvr (.mov)
single node panoramas files, cubes or cylinders with images not encoded in
JPEG instead in H.264 or others.

I will use them just to test and I will not public them or save them in any
repository... you can send them directly to my mail .

Regards,

León Moctezuma

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Panini version 0.70 released

2009-06-23 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine

On Jun 20, 4:18 am, Tom Sharpless  wrote:
> A new version of the Panini pano viewer and perspective tool is
> available athttps://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=241632.

Great! So the "this release is last release of Panini in its current
form" plan is no longer valid? :)

Alexandre
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[hugin-ptx] Re: Problem with installation of Hugin on Ubuntu

2009-06-23 Thread Andrii

vi...@virgo4:~$ gdb hugin
GNU gdb 6.8-debian
Copyright (C) 2008 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later 
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.  Type "show
copying"
and "show warranty" for details.
This GDB was configured as "x86_64-linux-gnu"...
(gdb) run
Starting program: /usr/local/bin/hugin
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
[New Thread 0x7f6dacd9f6f0 (LWP 21828)]
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":1.0".
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":1.0".
MainFrame::RestoreLayoutOnNextResize()

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[Switching to Thread 0x7f6dacd9f6f0 (LWP 21828)]
0x7f6da9b7d7d5 in wxWindow::DoSetSize () from /usr/lib/
libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0
(gdb)
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[hugin-ptx] Re: Problem with installation of Hugin on Ubuntu

2009-06-23 Thread Seb Perez-D

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 16:38, Andrii wrote:
> After close the Tip of day Hugin does not crashe.
> But all buttoms and options of Hugin are not worked.

I think Hugin crashes, but gdb keeps the window open. Look in the
console, you will see the error message and you can then enter the bt
code.

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Problem with installation of Hugin on Ubuntu

2009-06-23 Thread Andrii

> Could you perhaps provide more information on the segmentation fault?
> If you have gdb (Gnu debugger) installed, you could run
>   gdb hugin
> and then
>   run


Sorry in previous letter I mistake with gdb
I run hugin using gdb.
After close the Tip of day Hugin does not crashe.
But all buttoms and options of Hugin are not worked.

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Problem with installation of Hugin on Ubuntu

2009-06-23 Thread Andrii

Thank you very much for the help.

>   uname -a
> would be a start.

Linux virgo4 2.6.24-23-generic #1 SMP Wed Apr 1 21:43:24 UTC 2009
x86_64 GNU/Linux

> From your description of using VNCviewer, and the error message, it
> seems the problem could be caused by the OpenGL preview in Hugin. Can
> you run "glxgears" ? (you might need to install a package for this, I
> cannot check right now)

I can not to run glxgears

vi...@virgo4:~$ glxgears
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":1.0".
Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
vi...@virgo4:~$

Probably the problem in glxgears.
what I have to do for it?

>
> Could you perhaps provide more information on the segmentation fault?
> If you have gdb (Gnu debugger) installed, you could run
>   gdb hugin
> and then
>   run

vi...@virgo4:~$ qdb hugin
bash: qdb: command not found


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[hugin-ptx] Re: Clouds in hi resolution pano (Celeste 2.0?)

2009-06-23 Thread rlhelinski

This is a good idea, but IMHO it would require the user creating a
mask for each image so that the tools can treat the different regions
separately, perhaps by using alpha channels. Perhaps this could be
manifested in something like the fuzzy select tool in the GIMP.

Also, think of the boundary conditions that could be a show stopper
for something like this. What if you move the sky in the second row to
line up with the first row, but you end up with an area for which you
have no information. In the screenshot, I think this area would be to
the left. What should the tool do then?

Ryan

On Jun 22, 4:16 am, Yuv  wrote:
> Jim Watters wrote:
> > Wow!  sounds complicated.  I must admit my normal panorama shooting
> > process does not require using Celeste.
>
> > Wouldn't the simple solution be for Celeste to remove points if there is
> > a mixture of cloud and non-cloud points joining two images.
>
> I think I did not explain myself properly. The problem is not bad CP
> on moving clouds. It is the moving sky in relationship with the static
> subject. It could be also a sky of star.
>
> Look at  %20Panorama%20preview.png>
>
> The static scene stitches perfectly, but the background sky has moved
> between the row containing the tip of the clock-tower and the row
> below it.
>
> The easy way out is to fiddle with the clone tool or some other image
> editing tool around the seam between the two rows.
>
> The smart way out IMO would be to mask out the static features (the
> top of the clock-tower) from the top row and then shift to correct for
> the cloud movement over time. Probably shifting the whole row is good
> enough, though shifting each composing image proportionally to the
> timestamp difference may be more accurate. This will leave much less
> fiddling in the image editor: mostly where the sky has moved behind a
> static feature, and a little also where the clouds have changed shape
> over time (easy, because no accuracy is required).
>
> Yuv
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[hugin-ptx] Re: Problem with installation of Hugin on Ubuntu

2009-06-23 Thread Seb Perez-D

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 15:11, Andrii wrote:
> So I don't know how get the information about version of Ubuntu and
> processor.
> What commands I have to use in console for getting this information?

  uname -a
would be a start.

>From your description of using VNCviewer, and the error message, it
seems the problem could be caused by the OpenGL preview in Hugin. Can
you run "glxgears" ? (you might need to install a package for this, I
cannot check right now)

Could you perhaps provide more information on the segmentation fault?
If you have gdb (Gnu debugger) installed, you could run
  gdb hugin
and then
  run

After that, close the tip of the day and when Hugin crashes, type
  bt
in the console

This should generate some input that could be helpful.

> svn co https://hugin.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/hugin/hugin/trunk/

Another strategy would be check out an old version of Hugin, before
the OpenGL code was added.
Using
  svn co -r 3369
should give you something very close to Hugin 0.7.0

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Problem with installation of Hugin on Ubuntu

2009-06-23 Thread Andrii


> Which version of Ubuntu? What processor?

I use remote access to Linux PC via VNC viewer.
So I don't know how get the information about version of Ubuntu and
processor.
What commands I have to use in console for getting this information?

> Which version of Hugin?
> Where did you install it from?
> Did you compile Hugin yourself?


Ubuntu I installed according to http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_Compiling_ubuntu
using commands here:

sudo apt-get install cmake libopenexr-dev libboost-dev boost-build
libboost-thread-dev libboost-graph-dev \
  gettext libwxgtk2.8-dev libexiv2-dev libimage-exiftool-perl libglew-
dev
svn co https://hugin.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/hugin/hugin/trunk/
hugin
cd hugin
cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/local .
make
sudo make install
sudo ldconfig


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[hugin-ptx] Re: hugin-0.8.0_rc4 released

2009-06-23 Thread RueiKe

Hi Yuv,

Sorry for the delay, but I am just getting over a cold...

Yes, this topic was raised in the preview stream, but the slow update
to the preview may or may not be related to the crash.   I do use TIFF
files, so if a test case is needed I could convert to JPG.  It sounds
like you already have a huge project for testing, so maybe providing a
test case is not necessary.  Seems like there is nothing special about
the projects that crash hugin during alignment, as tests I documented
in the "OpenGL slow because of reloading" show that any large project
will crash during align.

Ad should have a new build available tomorrow, so I will report back
if that has the same problem or not.

Regards,
Rick

On Jun 18, 4:21 pm, Yuval Levy  wrote:
> hi Rick,
>
> RueiKe wrote:
> > I am not sure of the status of the large project Align crash issue,
>
> sorry I have not got back to you earlier on your June-5 mail re SVN3811
> vs. SVNHEAD. I am traveling and have limited time/access.
>
> The topic was Quick Preview, but I had Align crash on me as well.
>
> I've set up on both 3811 and the most recent HEAD on my Ubuntu notebook
> (an ailing Pentium M with 2GB RAM).
>
> On my 294 images project Align crashed as well. I found out that the
> problem was me: I had upgraded to the most recent libpano and I had not
> noticed the change in ABI that requires to rebuild dependent tools. I
> rebuilt Hugin and Autopano against the latest libpano and will test the
> 294 images project soon.
>
> The problem may be platform related but I won't have access to Windows
> until the end of the month.
>
> > Let me know if it would be useful
> > for me to provide a test case.  It is too large to upload anywhere
> > (~16G) have access to, so I would have to mail DVDs if it is
> > necessary.
>
> I assume you have TIFF images? for the test case, converting them to
> JPEG would help.
>
> Also if you test the latest Windows build, note that the one currently
> published by Ad, while it is the best in the 0.8 series, is not yet
> equivalent to rc4.
>
> Thanks for all the testing
> Yuv
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[hugin-ptx] Re: Problem with installation of Hugin on Ubuntu

2009-06-23 Thread Seb Perez-D

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 13:00, Andrii wrote:
> I installed  Hugin on Ubuntu stystem.
> During the installation iw was ok.
> But after run hugin I see the main page of Hugin and "Tip of the day"
> table.
> After close this table the main page of Hugin disappeared, and I see
> error "Segmentation fault":
>
> vi...@virgo4:~/enblend/test$ hugin
> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":1.0".
> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":1.0".
> MainFrame::RestoreLayoutOnNextResize()
> Segmentation fault
> vi...@virgo4:~/enblend/test$

Which version of Ubuntu? What processor?
Which version of Hugin?
Where did you install it from?
Did you compile Hugin yourself?

Cheers,

Seb

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[hugin-ptx] Problem with installation of Hugin on Ubuntu

2009-06-23 Thread Andrii

Hi all !

I installed  Hugin on Ubuntu stystem.
During the installation iw was ok.
But after run hugin I see the main page of Hugin and "Tip of the day"
table.
After close this table the main page of Hugin disappeared, and I see
error "Segmentation fault":

vi...@virgo4:~/enblend/test$ hugin
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":1.0".
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":1.0".
MainFrame::RestoreLayoutOnNextResize()
Segmentation fault
vi...@virgo4:~/enblend/test$

Thak you very much for the help.

Andrii

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Panini segfaults on Linux?

2009-06-23 Thread Lukáš Jirkovský

2009/6/23 Peter Gawthrop :
>
> Hi Tom,
>
>  just to say I have had NO problems on Ubuntu Jaunty 64 using nvidia
>  geforce 8600 GT.
>
>  Peter.
>
> From: Tom Sharpless 
> Subject: [hugin-ptx] Panini segfaults on Linux?
> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:33:38 -0700 (PDT)
>
>>
>> Hi all Panini users
>>
>> I have a report that recent versions of Panini segfault in the nVidia
>> OpenGL library on a gentoo linux (x86_64) system.
>>
>> Has anyone had similar experience?
>>
>> If you have, and would like to help me figure out what is wrong,
>> please report as much detail as you can on this thread and if possible
>> also on http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=874271.
>>
>> Thanks,  Tom
>> >
>>
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Hi Tom,
I've just tried version 0.70 on i686 Arch linux and it works.
GCC 4.4.0
Qt 4.5.1
nVidia drivers 185.18.14

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[hugin-ptx] Re: hugin-0.8.0_rc4 released

2009-06-23 Thread Lukáš Jirkovský

2009/6/20 Harry van der Wolf :
>
>
> 2009/6/17 Bruno Postle 
>>
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> A hugin-0.8.0_rc4 (release candidate 4) tarball is available here:
>>
>>
>> https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=77506&package_id=311429
>>
>> This is a release candidate, i.e. The final release may be identical.
>>
>> Changes since 0.8.0 rc3:
>>
>>
>> * LAPACK is disabled by default.  If you want to experiment then
>> enable it by running cmake with -DENABLE_LAPACK=YES
>
> LAPACK is not fully disabled. In src/foreign/levmar/lm.h, the following line
> still can be found:
>
> //#undef HAVE_LAPACK // uncomment this to force not using LAPACK
>
> It breaks mac compilation so I disabled it myself, like
> #undef HAVE_LAPACK // uncomment this to force not using LAPACK
>
>  As I don't know what the working on other platforms is, I did not yet
> commit to trunk.
>
> Should I commit or not?
>
> Harry
>
>
>
> >
>

Hi Harry,
have you used clean build or you used the directory from previous
builds (especially with LAPACK enabled)? AFAIK there are only two
possibilities to define HAVE_LAPACK – define it in some header file.
And it is not. The second one is to define it on commandline of
preprocessor. For example for gcc (and icc and maybe some other
compilers) it's defined by using option -DHAVE_LAPACK on command line.
This is how LAPACK is handled in Hugin. But if you doesn't use
-DENABLE_LAPACK=1 with CMake it shouldn't be defined.

Quick grep on sources also reveals that there is
GCC_PREPROCESSOR_DEFINITIONS = "HAVE_LAPACK=1"; in
./mac/Hugin.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj. I don't know how that xcode
thing works, but I guess it does exactly the same what CMake does when
LAPACK is enabled, ie. it tells preprocessor that this macro is
defined. So I'd try removing it from XCode project or setting it to 0.

Lukas

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Panini segfaults on Linux?

2009-06-23 Thread Peter Gawthrop

Hi Tom,

  just to say I have had NO problems on Ubuntu Jaunty 64 using nvidia
  geforce 8600 GT.

  Peter.

From: Tom Sharpless 
Subject: [hugin-ptx] Panini segfaults on Linux?
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:33:38 -0700 (PDT)

> 
> Hi all Panini users
> 
> I have a report that recent versions of Panini segfault in the nVidia
> OpenGL library on a gentoo linux (x86_64) system.
> 
> Has anyone had similar experience?
> 
> If you have, and would like to help me figure out what is wrong,
> please report as much detail as you can on this thread and if possible
> also on http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=874271.
> 
> Thanks,  Tom
> > 
> 
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