[hugin-ptx] Re: Multi-row pano layout?

2010-08-19 Thread T. Modes


On 19 Aug., 19:17, Joel B  wrote:
> I've been working with some multi-row panos, similar to the ones on
> the multi-row tutorial, 
> actually:http://hugin.sourceforge.net/tutorials/multi-row/en.shtml
> And when I hit the "align" button, it seems to try to find points in
> *every* pair of images.  In my case, however, I'm doing a 360-degree,
> two-row panorama, that has 30 or so images, not just the 8 in the demo
> - so instead of 36 possible pairs of which about a third will be used,
> it has to match more than 450 possible matches.  Is there  a way to
> arrange the images and tell it which ones it should try to match up?
> Ideal would be an interface similar to a combination of the first and
> last pictures in the multi-row tutorial, actually, where I could drag
> the photos around, overlapping them, to specify which photos overlap
> visually, and have Align just try those pairs.
>

This can be achieved by using a multi-row control point detector
setting.
see http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_Preferences#Control_Point_Detectors
and 
http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_Parameters_for_Control_Point_Detectors_dialog

If you want to use it with the assistant tab, you need to set the
multi-row detector as default.

Thomas

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Multi-row pano layout?

2010-08-19 Thread Bart van Andel
Have you already tried the "Align" button on the Assistant tab, after
loading the images? Or the "Create control points" button on the
Images tab, followed by some optimizing on the Optimizer tab (e.g.
"Position (incremental, starting from anchor)" followed by "Position,
view and barrel")? In most cases this should do the trick with the
current Hugin.

Don't be afraid to experiment a bit, and if you get strange output,
you can examine the links Hugin found between the images using the
Layout mode in the Fast Preview. Sometimes it will find false
positives, if features are similar enough, and you'll have to filter
those out yourself. Unless it's in the clouds, where Celeste comes
into play and may do all the dirty work.

Or am I stating the obvious now?

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On 19 aug, 19:17, Joel B  wrote:
> I've been working with some multi-row panos, similar to the ones on
> the multi-row tutorial, 
> actually:http://hugin.sourceforge.net/tutorials/multi-row/en.shtml
> And when I hit the "align" button, it seems to try to find points in
> *every* pair of images.  In my case, however, I'm doing a 360-degree,
> two-row panorama, that has 30 or so images, not just the 8 in the demo
> - so instead of 36 possible pairs of which about a third will be used,
> it has to match more than 450 possible matches.  Is there  a way to
> arrange the images and tell it which ones it should try to match up?
> Ideal would be an interface similar to a combination of the first and
> last pictures in the multi-row tutorial, actually, where I could drag
> the photos around, overlapping them, to specify which photos overlap
> visually, and have Align just try those pairs.
>
> As-is I've been specifying the matchings manually (as in the two-
> photos tutorial), but this is very time-consuming and inefficient.  If
> there isn't a way to do this, any idea on how hard it would be to
> implement such an interface?  And where would I start in such things?
> I'm willing to work on implementing such a thing, but don't know if
> there's already something similar, or where I would start in making
> one if there isn't.
>
> Thoughts?

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[hugin-ptx] Multi-row pano layout?

2010-08-19 Thread Joel B
I've been working with some multi-row panos, similar to the ones on
the multi-row tutorial, actually:
http://hugin.sourceforge.net/tutorials/multi-row/en.shtml
And when I hit the "align" button, it seems to try to find points in
*every* pair of images.  In my case, however, I'm doing a 360-degree,
two-row panorama, that has 30 or so images, not just the 8 in the demo
- so instead of 36 possible pairs of which about a third will be used,
it has to match more than 450 possible matches.  Is there  a way to
arrange the images and tell it which ones it should try to match up?
Ideal would be an interface similar to a combination of the first and
last pictures in the multi-row tutorial, actually, where I could drag
the photos around, overlapping them, to specify which photos overlap
visually, and have Align just try those pairs.

As-is I've been specifying the matchings manually (as in the two-
photos tutorial), but this is very time-consuming and inefficient.  If
there isn't a way to do this, any idea on how hard it would be to
implement such an interface?  And where would I start in such things?
I'm willing to work on implementing such a thing, but don't know if
there's already something similar, or where I would start in making
one if there isn't.

Thoughts?

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[hugin-ptx] Lens profiling.

2010-08-19 Thread John McAllister
I am just trying to prepare a lens profile for an 80mm medium telephoto lens.
I intend to use EXIF for FoV and crop factor, and ensure that the optical axis 
is at right angles to the axis of rotation.

My question is:-
Is it OK to use a near (c.5 metre), feature rich target for this purpose when 
the profile will be applied to distant landscape subjects.

Would the lens profile vary depending on the distance to the target used for 
calibration?

( Off subject... see an intimate slideshow of pictures of a local fox @ 
www.w3a2z.net/foxa )

John

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