Re: [hugin-ptx] current Hugin and Boost problem
Now succesfully build boost 1.38.0 (not latest, but easy upgrade from 1.34.1 to 1.38.0, same script options use) Now i have boost system library, and succesfully compiled current hugin. I think 1.34.1 not the minimum requied boost version or standard build bad for hugin. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Hugin and other free panoramic software" group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
[hugin-ptx] migth be of interest for those interested in SIFT
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Some of my recent hugin efforts
On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 22:51:06 -0500, Yuval Levy wrote: > > On November 10, 2010 10:19:35 pm Robert Krawitz wrote: >> One more panorama from the trip last month: >> http://rlk.smugmug.com/Other/Landscapes/4851912_oeCNm#1086043156_p4b23 > > nice work, thanks for sharing. Thanks. >> Hugin kept giving me FOV estimates of between 87 and 95 degrees HFOV > > don't worry, as long as it is < 360° (i.e. fits on the panosphere) > for partial (non 360° panos) accuracy of estimated HFOV is much less > important than the visual result. That's good to know (this is referring to the lens HFOV -- the overall pano HFOV was getting estimated anywhere between 270 and 355 degrees). >> The amount of error was truly extreme -- the worst CP was about 85 >> units off and the average was 8 units. However, there were only a >> couple of bad seams when I actually stitched it together, and they >> were all in locations that were fairly easy to fix. Interestingly, >> when I added more CPs, the worst error went down to 70, but there >> were more seams. I guess the thing to worry about is what happens >> when it's stitched, not what the optimization results are (Yuv, I >> guess that's what you were telling me :-) ). > > yep, you guess right! in this particular case, parallax affects the > lower 1/3 of the image more than the top 2/3. If I was to add CPs > manually, I would only put them on the far away mountains and maybe > on the far away trees. The CP generator does not know this. It > does not have a sense for depth, and it does not know that CPs at > infinity suffer much less from parallax than CPs in proximity of the > camera's viewpoint. Interesting. When I added more CPs to get a broader distribution, I got lower error numbers and narrower seam errors but more seams -- and in more difficult locations. I particularly tried to add CPs far away, but they didn't help. I got the best results by simply killing the obvious bad CPs and relying on the auto points. > points in the lower 1/3 will have higher error. the > cleaning/pruning function of CPs in Hugin may or may not catch them > - depending on where the majority of the points are found. running > it multiple times (i.e. clicking the button multiple times) may help > or may make things worse. > > the random/regular pattern on the surface of the rock makes it very > easy to deal with bad seams in your favorite image editor. Yup. The harder part was where the seams crossed the cracks in the rock. I can't even tell where the seams are on the surface of the rock. If the bad seams crossed through trees it would have been much harder. Fortunately I didn't wind up with a seam crossing my shadow. This is all definitely a lot of fun. I probably won't be doing a lot more panos this year -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Hugin and other free panoramic software" group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Some of my recent hugin efforts
On November 10, 2010 10:19:35 pm Robert Krawitz wrote: > One more panorama from the trip last month: > http://rlk.smugmug.com/Other/Landscapes/4851912_oeCNm#1086043156_p4b23 nice work, thanks for sharing. > Hugin kept giving me FOV estimates of between 87 and 95 degrees HFOV don't worry, as long as it is < 360° (i.e. fits on the panosphere) for partial (non 360° panos) accuracy of estimated HFOV is much less important than the visual result. > The amount of error was truly extreme -- the worst CP was about 85 > units off and the average was 8 units. However, there were only a > couple of bad seams when I actually stitched it together, and they > were all in locations that were fairly easy to fix. Interestingly, > when I added more CPs, the worst error went down to 70, but there were > more seams. I guess the thing to worry about is what happens when > it's stitched, not what the optimization results are (Yuv, I guess > that's what you were telling me :-) ). yep, you guess right! in this particular case, parallax affects the lower 1/3 of the image more than the top 2/3. If I was to add CPs manually, I would only put them on the far away mountains and maybe on the far away trees. The CP generator does not know this. It does not have a sense for depth, and it does not know that CPs at infinity suffer much less from parallax than CPs in proximity of the camera's viewpoint. points in the lower 1/3 will have higher error. the cleaning/pruning function of CPs in Hugin may or may not catch them - depending on where the majority of the points are found. running it multiple times (i.e. clicking the button multiple times) may help or may make things worse. the random/regular pattern on the surface of the rock makes it very easy to deal with bad seams in your favorite image editor. Yuv signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [hugin-ptx] Some of my recent hugin efforts
One more panorama from the trip last month: http://rlk.smugmug.com/Other/Landscapes/4851912_oeCNm#1086043156_p4b23 This one was tricky, since it was hand-held, with a lot of very close detail, and with the 8-16 at the wide end. This is equivalent to about 110 degrees HFOV (on a 1.6 crop sensor), but Hugin kept giving me FOV estimates of between 87 and 95 degrees HFOV when I optimized it for view. I don't quite understand what that's all about. I'm not sure how wide this really was; Hugin gave me estimates anywhere between 270 and 355 degrees (I suspect it's about 300 degrees wide, actually). The amount of error was truly extreme -- the worst CP was about 85 units off and the average was 8 units. However, there were only a couple of bad seams when I actually stitched it together, and they were all in locations that were fairly easy to fix. Interestingly, when I added more CPs, the worst error went down to 70, but there were more seams. I guess the thing to worry about is what happens when it's stitched, not what the optimization results are (Yuv, I guess that's what you were telling me :-) ). I had to synthesize a fair bit of rock in the lower corners (including some of the shadow cast by the dog), and some sky in the upper corners, but that was mostly just texture. Then, as usual, I boosted the sky some and the ground not so much (just enough to get a bit of pop). I think that's about it for panorama sequences from that trip, alas. Not a bad haul, though. -- Robert Krawitz Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- http://ProgFree.org Project lead for Gutenprint --http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Hugin and other free panoramic software" group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Terminology
On November 4, 2010 07:40:10 am kfj wrote: > On 31 Okt., 18:59, Yuval Levy wrote: > > wrong and dangerous thinking. Zoom = going into the detail of the scene. > > HFOV/VFOV = establishing the frame of the scene. > > I am still unclear about the issue. If I think of a given projection, > it will have limits of what hfov and vfov will be possible. The > preview renders a preview image reflecting these limitations. Using > the hfov and vfov sliders does not change this rendition use the sliders, then go back to the stitcher tab and you will see that... the rendition has been changed. the limit of what hfov and vfov are possible are not the only set of hfov/vfov limit. > , it only > presents the user with a different rectangular section of that > rendition no, it also reduces the rendering area and the rendering time. Try rendering a rectilinear projection at FOV 179° to see that it has more practical implication than "only present the user with a different rectangular section of a rendition". > , possibly magnified or shrunk appropriately. The image > content, in terms of it's warp, does not cange. This IS zoom. this looks like zoom, is being misunderstood as zoom, but it is not zoom. zoom is a display characteristic, not a rendition characteristic. Zoom allows to use the display as a magnifying glass without changing the rendition. The hfov/vfov sliders change the rendition, and sometimes this change is critical in making the rendition possible (see rendering failures due to gigantic canvas sizes earlier on this ML). > It seems to me that the hfov/vfov setting and > horizontal/vertical crop are redundant you may want to play a little bit more with these control, and with different sizes of input images and output projections, before coming to such conclusions. Yuv signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[hugin-ptx] Re: Win SDK & MSVC 2010
Hi Oskar, I chose MSVC 2010 Express because I already had it and it was by far the easiest to build 64 bit targets. Simply download the Windows SDK 7.1, and you are set. The instructions you link are mostly complete, but may have a few omissions or errors - your fixes and edits would be appreciated! I haven't made the time to re-check this document, but some others have used it successfully. Using the binary build for Enblend/enfuse works well, but they don't provide 64 bit builds, which has been a limiting factor on the size of panoramas for some users - they run out of memory during blending. Also, we need to do better documenting the process of building Hugin itself. If you successfully use Cmake to build panotools, you should be able use Cmake to build Hugin. Let us know how it goes, Aron On Nov 10, 2:44 am, Oskar Sander wrote: > Hi, > > What's the current status if you want to play with building hugin for windows? > > I've been following the discussions about this: > > http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_SDK_%28MSVC_2010%29 > > So if I want to set up the structure myself in order to play with the > code of the Hugin GUI, I would use express edition 2010 now I suppose? > > Could I use binaries for things I'm not interested in building and > were would I pick them from? For example could I pick enblend and > enfuse from their sourceforge source, or from a current windows build? > > If my questions are stupid, pardon > > /O -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Hugin and other free panoramic software" group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: male hugin skinnable
no hidden agenda, promised :-) zarl schrieb am 10.11.10 14:11: This message is a test, sent via http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx/ Carl On 10 Nov., 14:09, Carl von Einem wrote: Henk Tijdink schrieb am 10.11.10 13:35: Why is someone using 2 names on the forum? Pasajesenvenezuela and John Doe have the same e-mail adress. Does he likes a discussion with himself? Or a certain hidden agenda? Messages sent from a mail app such as Thunderbird will show the information from the account settings while messages sent via Google's web interface will show the nick name for that Google account. Carl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Hugin and other free panoramic software" group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: male hugin skinnable
Hi.I use linux.and I have misconfigured my name options Hello firstly I do use linux I use ubuntu use On 11/10/10, Henk Tijdink wrote: > Why is someone using 2 names on the forum? > Pasajesenvenezuela and John Doe have the same e-mail adress. > Does he likes a discussion with himself? Or a certain hidden agenda? > > Henk Tijdink > > On 10 nov, 12:34, Bart van Andel wrote: >> If you want this so badly, why not just install something like >> Windowblinds [0]? Or, if you're on Linux (guess not) there are enough >> ways to customize look&feel already. For Hugin this has absolutely no >> priority. >> >> Would you ask Adobe to do the same thing for Photoshop? I guess you >> won't. >> >> [0]http://www.windowblinds.net >> >> -- >> Bart >> >> On 10 nov, 07:42, Lukáš Jirkovský wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > On 10 November 2010 03:55, john doe wrote: >> >> > > upssorry for the typo instead of male i meand make... >> >> > > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 9:55 PM, paisajesenvenezuela >> > > wrote: >> >> > >> hey how about adding an option to make hugin skinnable??that is let >> > >> the user chance the appearance of the programs windows?? >> >> > >> -- >> > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > >> Groups >> > >> "Hugin and other free panoramic software" group. >> > >> A list of frequently asked questions is available at: >> > >>http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ >> > >> To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com >> > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > >> hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> > >> For more options, visit this group at >> > >>http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx >> >> > > -- >> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > > Groups >> > > "Hugin and other free panoramic software" group. >> > > A list of frequently asked questions is available at: >> > >http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ >> > > To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com >> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > > hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> > > For more options, visit this group at >> > >http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx >> >> > OH NO! Never ever ever ever ever do this. I don't understand why some >> > people want every application look completely different from the rest >> > of desktop. >> >> > just my 2 cents. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Hugin and other free panoramic software" group. > A list of frequently asked questions is available at: > http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ > To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Hugin and other free panoramic software" group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
[hugin-ptx] Re: male hugin skinnable
This message is a test, sent via http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx/ Carl On 10 Nov., 14:09, Carl von Einem wrote: > Henk Tijdink schrieb am 10.11.10 13:35: > > > Why is someone using 2 names on the forum? > > Pasajesenvenezuela and John Doe have the same e-mail adress. > > Does he likes a discussion with himself? Or a certain hidden agenda? > > Messages sent from a mail app such as Thunderbird will show the > information from the account settings while messages sent via Google's > web interface will show the nick name for that Google account. > > Carl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Hugin and other free panoramic software" group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: male hugin skinnable
Henk Tijdink schrieb am 10.11.10 13:35: Why is someone using 2 names on the forum? Pasajesenvenezuela and John Doe have the same e-mail adress. Does he likes a discussion with himself? Or a certain hidden agenda? Messages sent from a mail app such as Thunderbird will show the information from the account settings while messages sent via Google's web interface will show the nick name for that Google account. Carl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Hugin and other free panoramic software" group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
[hugin-ptx] Re: male hugin skinnable
If you want this so badly, why not just install something like Windowblinds [0]? Or, if you're on Linux (guess not) there are enough ways to customize look&feel already. For Hugin this has absolutely no priority. Would you ask Adobe to do the same thing for Photoshop? I guess you won't. [0] http://www.windowblinds.net -- Bart On 10 nov, 07:42, Lukáš Jirkovský wrote: > On 10 November 2010 03:55, john doe wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > upssorry for the typo instead of male i meand make... > > > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 9:55 PM, paisajesenvenezuela > > wrote: > > >> hey how about adding an option to make hugin skinnable??that is let > >> the user chance the appearance of the programs windows?? > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "Hugin and other free panoramic software" group. > >> A list of frequently asked questions is available at: > >>http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ > >> To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > >> For more options, visit this group at > >>http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Hugin and other free panoramic software" group. > > A list of frequently asked questions is available at: > >http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ > > To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx > > OH NO! Never ever ever ever ever do this. I don't understand why some > people want every application look completely different from the rest > of desktop. > > just my 2 cents. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Hugin and other free panoramic software" group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
[hugin-ptx] Re: male hugin skinnable
Why is someone using 2 names on the forum? Pasajesenvenezuela and John Doe have the same e-mail adress. Does he likes a discussion with himself? Or a certain hidden agenda? Henk Tijdink On 10 nov, 12:34, Bart van Andel wrote: > If you want this so badly, why not just install something like > Windowblinds [0]? Or, if you're on Linux (guess not) there are enough > ways to customize look&feel already. For Hugin this has absolutely no > priority. > > Would you ask Adobe to do the same thing for Photoshop? I guess you > won't. > > [0]http://www.windowblinds.net > > -- > Bart > > On 10 nov, 07:42, Lukáš Jirkovský wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 10 November 2010 03:55, john doe wrote: > > > > upssorry for the typo instead of male i meand make... > > > > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 9:55 PM, paisajesenvenezuela > > > wrote: > > > >> hey how about adding an option to make hugin skinnable??that is let > > >> the user chance the appearance of the programs windows?? > > > >> -- > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > >> "Hugin and other free panoramic software" group. > > >> A list of frequently asked questions is available at: > > >>http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ > > >> To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >> hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > >> For more options, visit this group at > > >>http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "Hugin and other free panoramic software" group. > > > A list of frequently asked questions is available at: > > >http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ > > > To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx > > > OH NO! Never ever ever ever ever do this. I don't understand why some > > people want every application look completely different from the rest > > of desktop. > > > just my 2 cents. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Hugin and other free panoramic software" group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] current Hugin and Boost problem
Am Mittwoch, 10. November 2010 schrieb Lajos Höss:
> Thanks. Now the problem (from CMakeCache.txt):
>
> .
> .
> //Path to a library.
> Boost_SYSTEM_LIBRARY_DEBUG:FILEPATH=Boost_SYSTEM_LIBRARY_DEBUG-NOTFOUND
>
> //Path to a library.
> Boost_SYSTEM_LIBRARY_RELEASE:FILEPATH=Boost_SYSTEM_LIBRARY_RELEASE-NOTFOUND
> .
> .
>
> I think my boost 1.34.1 package without system library. I check the
> package and i think not found the system library.
> I not found the way to build system. I check configure options.
> Another distributions have system with 1.34.1 boost?
> I checked opensuse 10.3 boost 1.34.1 rpm, and not found system too.
> Original build options:
> ./configure \
> --prefix=${UB_INSTALLDIR}/usr \
> --with-libraries=all \
> --with-icu \
> --with-bjam=/usr/bin/bjam
>
>
On OpenSuSE 11.x "/usr/lib64/libboost_system-mt.so" is part of
boost-devel-1.39.0-4.3.1.x86_64
...
//Path to a library.
Boost_SYSTEM_LIBRARY_RELEASE:FILEPATH=/usr/lib64/libboost_system-mt.so
...
You may want to try to upgrade your boost installation. (I would try)
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