Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Announce: jpeg2qtvr-0.04

2012-10-17 Thread Carlos Eduardo G. Carvalho (Cartola)
Yeah, I can help, but would prefer if you do your homework first :)

Bests,

Carlos E G Carvalho (Cartola)
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2012/10/17 Gnome Nomad 

> Beyond me - I think Carlos is a better knowledge source than I!

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Announce: jpeg2qtvr-0.04

2012-10-17 Thread Carlos Eduardo G. Carvalho (Cartola)
Hi,

2012/10/16 JohnPW 

> Thanks, GnomeNomad and Carlos,
>
> @GN--
> I guess the question is, use Flash how?
>
> @Carlos--
> Salado looks good from the demo, but the documentation is a bit thin. I
> can't even tell what platform it's designed for. Is it Windows only? I have
> no idea how to install or use it. Maybe I missed something.
>

Salado has a Player and a Converter. The Converter is used to transform
your equirectangular into a useful group of tiles for the player. The
converter is Java and the player dont need to be installed, just to be
used. You need to configure a xml file to it. You can make a template and
use it always.


> I can say the krpano demo definitely works on OS X, is fast and seems to
> produces excellent results. Seeing as I am not terribly adept, I may have
> to bite the bullet and and purchase it. It does a bit expensive just to
> share a few panos with friends though. Especially if there are free and
> open solutions available that should work on my platform.
>
>
krpano also has a xml configuration file, but you can generate one
automatically with its tools (not graphical tools).


> John
>

In fact, if your purpose is to share with family and friends maybe a better
solution is just to upload your pictures to www.360cities.net and the image
is published by them with krpano. I usually recommend this as a first way
to beginners to publish and share.

Bests,

Carlos E G Carvalho (Cartola)
http://cartola.org/360
http://www.panoforum.com.br/

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Announce: jpeg2qtvr-0.04

2012-10-17 Thread JohnPW
Thanks,
The page has been significantly updated since I saw it last.

On Wednesday, October 17, 2012 10:27:40 AM UTC-5, zarl wrote:
>
> An overview over available viewers is here: 
> http://wiki.panotools.org/Viewers 
>
> Carl 
>

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Announce: jpeg2qtvr-0.04

2012-10-17 Thread Carl von Einem

An overview over available viewers is here:
http://wiki.panotools.org/Viewers

Carl

JohnPW schrieb am 17.10.12 17:22:

Last time I was trying to do this someone else recommended Panini. I was
thinking it was windows only, but I see it even has a Mac .dmg file.
I'll check it out.
Thanks, dO. I'll check it out.
John

On Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:55:37 AM UTC-5, dex Otaku wrote:

Hey all,

Just a suggestion for a pano viewer -

If all you need is a simple client for equirectangular or QTVR
photos, Panini viewer is a good option.  VASTLY superior to any part
of Quicktime on Windows [I'm one of those people who uses the QTLite
installer because I have software that requires the Apple codecs,
but I refuse to install iTunes and the like because Apple are
fascists with their installers on Windows].

Panini may be confusing for less technical users, but as long as you
give out equirect images [the rendering of which can be done
straight from Hugin, requiring no conversion tools or anything as
with qtvr] it's very simple to use - open the image, navigate with
mouse controls, alter projection parms with keyboard keys if you
want, and even save the projected image if you want.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/pvqt/



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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Announce: jpeg2qtvr-0.04

2012-10-17 Thread JohnPW
Thanks, GN.
J

On Wednesday, October 17, 2012 5:43:09 AM UTC-5, GnomeNomad wrote:
>
> On 10/16/2012 11:22 AM, JohnPW wrote: 
> > Thanks, GnomeNomad and Carlos, 
> > 
> > @GN-- 
> > I guess the question is, use Flash how? 
>
> Beyond me - I think Carlos is a better knowledge source than I! 
>
>
>

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Announce: jpeg2qtvr-0.04

2012-10-17 Thread JohnPW
Last time I was trying to do this someone else recommended Panini. I was 
thinking it was windows only, but I see it even has a Mac .dmg file. I'll 
check it out.
Thanks, dO. I'll check it out.
John

On Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:55:37 AM UTC-5, dex Otaku wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> Just a suggestion for a pano viewer -
>
> If all you need is a simple client for equirectangular or QTVR photos, 
> Panini viewer is a good option.  VASTLY superior to any part of Quicktime 
> on Windows [I'm one of those people who uses the QTLite installer because I 
> have software that requires the Apple codecs, but I refuse to install 
> iTunes and the like because Apple are fascists with their installers on 
> Windows].  
>
> Panini may be confusing for less technical users, but as long as you give 
> out equirect images [the rendering of which can be done straight from 
> Hugin, requiring no conversion tools or anything as with qtvr] it's very 
> simple to use - open the image, navigate with mouse controls, alter 
> projection parms with keyboard keys if you want, and even save the 
> projected image if you want.
>
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/pvqt/
>

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Announce: jpeg2qtvr-0.04

2012-10-17 Thread dex Otaku
Hey all,

Just a suggestion for a pano viewer -

If all you need is a simple client for equirectangular or QTVR photos, 
Panini viewer is a good option.  VASTLY superior to any part of Quicktime 
on Windows [I'm one of those people who uses the QTLite installer because I 
have software that requires the Apple codecs, but I refuse to install 
iTunes and the like because Apple are fascists with their installers on 
Windows].  

Panini may be confusing for less technical users, but as long as you give 
out equirect images [the rendering of which can be done straight from 
Hugin, requiring no conversion tools or anything as with qtvr] it's very 
simple to use - open the image, navigate with mouse controls, alter 
projection parms with keyboard keys if you want, and even save the 
projected image if you want.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/pvqt/

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Announce: jpeg2qtvr-0.04

2012-10-17 Thread Gnome Nomad

On 10/16/2012 11:22 AM, JohnPW wrote:

Thanks, GnomeNomad and Carlos,

@GN--
I guess the question is, use Flash how?


Beyond me - I think Carlos is a better knowledge source than I!


@Carlos--
Salado looks good from the demo, but the documentation is a bit thin. I
can't even tell what platform it's designed for. Is it Windows only? I
have no idea how to install or use it. Maybe I missed something.
I can say the krpano demo definitely works on OS X, is fast and seems to
produces excellent results. Seeing as I am not terribly adept, I may
have to bite the bullet and and purchase it. It does a bit expensive
just to share a few panos with friends though. Especially if there are
free and open solutions available that should work on my platform.

John

On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 1:02:10 PM UTC-5, Cartola wrote:

I have never been a fan, don't like and probably will never like
flash, but that is my choice nowadays for panoramas. Maybe one day
HTML5 will be a solution for every architecture, but meantime I do
my panos with flash and HTML5. With free software I usually choose
Salado Player as the flash and VR5 as the HTML5. This last one can
detect the browser/OS and redirect for the flash plugin, so the link
is the same for everyone.

If you think of buying a solution you can consider krpano which
makes both flash and HTML5 at once using krpanotools. Other tools
use it, like Panotour pro, from kolor.com  and
maybe others.

Cheers,

Carlos E G Carvalho (Cartola)
http://cartola.org/360
http://www.panoforum.com.br/



2012/10/16 Gnome Nomad 

My suggestion? Flash. I generally don't recommend Flash, but it
works in older browsers that don't support the HTML5 elements.


On 10/16/2012 05:37 AM, JohnPW wrote:

[Sorry for the brevity, posted prematurely. Please see my
response to
GnomeNomad immediately below. For now I just want to find an
easy
solution. Once I can do QTVR and I have more understanding,
other
options may seem achievable.]

On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 9:51:44 AM UTC-5, JohnPW wrote:

I wasn't planning and sending my panoramas to companies,
mostly my
friends.
Did you have a suggestion for a solution?
Thanks,
John

On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 5:26:33 AM UTC-5, Cartola wrote:

I share this point of view, and that is exactly the case of the
company where I work now, which has around 250,000 employees,
i.e. 250 thousand users without QT.

Bests, Cartola.

Carlos E G Carvalho (Cartola)
http://cartola.org/360
http://www.panoforum.com.br/



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