Re: [hugin-ptx] Feature idea: brightness adjustment in control points tab

2013-03-27 Thread Luís Henrique Camargo Quiroz 
Nice idea! Especially the automatic contrast in the zoom area!

Luís Henrique


2013/3/27 Brent 

> Very often, especially with 16-bit images, the area of images where I
> would like to add or inspect control points is too dark or too light to see
> any detail.   Although the preview windows can adjust the EV of the
> display, the control point windows are fixed.  The result is a lot of
> squinting, dimming room lights, etc, to be able to see where the control
> points are or should be.
>
> It would be great if this could be handled by one of a few possible ways:
> - photometric mapping in control point windows same as in previews
> - separate brightness/contrast control in control point window
> - automatic contrast-maximization in whatever zoom area the control-point
> window is in
>
> To expand on the last point, I'm thinking that histogram-normalization of
> the pixel values over the two image regions being displayed would stretch
> the dynamic region to match -- similar to how the small zoom region under
> the cursor works now.
>
> Brent
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: 2013 hugin confusing

2013-03-27 Thread Harry van der Wolf 
2013/3/27 Gnome Nomad 

>  The main window is the panorama editor. Here you can open/save/create
>> new projects.
>> You can open the fast preview window. It is opened automatically if
>> Hugin was closed with open (and not maximized) fast preview window.
>>
>> If you close the fast preview window (the secondary window) only this
>> window is closed.
>> If you close the panorama editor (the main window) the application is
>> exited.
>>
>> In simple mode main and secondary window are exchanged, but the
>> behaviour remains in the same style:
>>
>> The main window is the fast preview window. Here you can open/save
>> projects.
>> You can open the panorama editor.
>>
>> If you close the panorama editor (the secondary window) only this
>> window is closed.
>> If you close the fast preview window (the main window) the application
>> is exited.
>>
>> So the behaviour is consistent, but require some familiarization for
>> old users.
>>
>
> Unnecessarily confusing, both for new and old users, IMHO.
>
>

I don't agree. I do think this is a consistent way of working.

 There are hundreds or even thousands of programs that work this way.
For example the simple mode: There are more programs that use child
windows. If you close the child window (panorama editor), the main window
remains open. If you close the main window (FP window), all child windows
are closes as well.
And the same for the advanced/expert mode where the panorama editor is the
main window and the fast preview the child window.

Multiple window/pane programs can have different behavior though. Some work
like: If the child window has focus, it's the only window that is active
and usable and the main window remains in the background.
In other programs the (floating) child windows function independently of
the main window apart from the "quit program" action which only works from
the main window, like hugin or gimp.

I never have 360x180 panos. I make high-res partial panos (like e.g. 5
wide, 3 high. Sometimes completely stacked, sometimes with only 1 or 2
photos (the "difficult parts" w.r.t.  exposure) stacked).
Being a lazy user I always start in simple mode; If that one does the job:
Great!
If not I open the panorama editor and do the work work there; and yes I
also had to adapt to the way the windows work, but that's switching from
old to new. And yes: it works consistent.
(And if even the simple mode with panorama editor isn't sufficient, I of
course switch to expert mode which is of course necessary with stacked
panos.)

And that I'm used to that maybe has to do with the fact that I do work
now about 6-8 months (maybe longer) with the new Gui since Thomas started
that, and you only a few days (really no pun intended) after maybe years
with the "old" gui.

Harry

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Suggestion re hugin 2013 beta 1

2013-03-27 Thread Carl von Einem 

Great explanation! :-)

And it's so much easier to understand than e.g.
http://wiki.panotools.org/Diffraction#Resolution
http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_Preferences#Auto_align


This reminded me of something similarly elegant, the "compression haiku" 
by Bradford Bohonus, posted a long time ago on the PanotoolsNG list 
():


 It's the trees the trees
 bringing jpeg to its knees
 shoot in the desert

 my high I S O
 chokes jpeg like mouth of sand
 try noise removal

 sorenson codec
 spin pause spin pause spin pause spin
 no way to enjoy the view


Cheers,
Carl


Donald Johnston schrieb am 26.03.13 23:18:

70% because it was version 0.7!  ;o)  Sorry … it had to be said.

On 2013-03-26, at 11:03 AM, "T. Modes"  wrote:


Hmmm. Here, the Simple interface's optimal size (1553x284, as indicated
by the spinners) is noticeably smaller than the optimal size (2266x727,
as calculated by the button on the Stitch tab of the Advanced
interface).


That's the downscale factor: 70 % as default. As already written.


I didn't set any downscale factor in the preferences ... is
that something new?


No. It exits since Hugin 0.7. So nothing new, nothing recent.


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: 2013 hugin confusing

2013-03-27 Thread Gnome Nomad 

On 03/26/2013 07:12 AM, T. Modes wrote:


Is this intended behavior?



Yes. In advanced and expert mode the window behaviour has not changed.
It is the same as in the last versions.

The main window is the panorama editor. Here you can open/save/create
new projects.
You can open the fast preview window. It is opened automatically if
Hugin was closed with open (and not maximized) fast preview window.

If you close the fast preview window (the secondary window) only this
window is closed.
If you close the panorama editor (the main window) the application is
exited.

In simple mode main and secondary window are exchanged, but the
behaviour remains in the same style:

The main window is the fast preview window. Here you can open/save
projects.
You can open the panorama editor.

If you close the panorama editor (the secondary window) only this
window is closed.
If you close the fast preview window (the main window) the application
is exited.

So the behaviour is consistent, but require some familiarization for
old users.


Unnecessarily confusing, both for new and old users, IMHO.


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Suggestion re hugin 2013 beta 1

2013-03-27 Thread Gnome Nomad 

I forgive you! Thanks, I kicked it up to 100% where it belongs IMHO.

On 03/26/2013 12:18 PM, Donald Johnston wrote:

70% because it was version 0.7!  ;o)  Sorry … it had to be said.

On 2013-03-26, at 11:03 AM, "T. Modes"  wrote:


Hmmm. Here, the Simple interface's optimal size (1553x284, as indicated
by the spinners) is noticeably smaller than the optimal size (2266x727,
as calculated by the button on the Stitch tab of the Advanced
interface).


That's the downscale factor: 70 % as default. As already written.


I didn't set any downscale factor in the preferences ... is
that something new?


No. It exits since Hugin 0.7. So nothing new, nothing recent.



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